Could hackers kill sony

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]They won't kill Sony, it will be like a bee sting, annoying can cause a stumble and a little cursing but no real damage.TheSterls

No real damage?? well, PSN is proof you're worng, man.

LOl really? that basically cost them 171 million ( improvements in network infrastructure and the welcome back program). For a company that has about 40 billion to spend thats a stumble. If the hackers accomplish anything it will be new legislation that gets passed that cracks down on them to the point where they will be treated like terrorist.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-30/sony-leads-japan-inc-circling-takeovers-with-2-4-trillion-cash-real-m-a.html

"Sony had the most cash, with $8.3 billion more in reserves than borrowings as of March, the data show. That's a sevenfold increase in five years. Japan's largest exporter of consumer electronics had an average return on equity, which measures how much a company earns for each dollar invested, of 0.2 percent in that span, versus an 8.3 percent return in the Topix.

Since Howard Stringer, 69, was named Sony's first non- Japanese chief executive officer in March 2005, the company has lost about $9 billion in market value, the data show. From its high four years ago, Sony's equity has decreased by $33 billion.

Sony, which posted three straight years of losses for the first time since listing its shares in 1958, on May 26 forecast net income this fiscal year that fell short of analysts' estimates by 31 percent, data compiled by Bloomberg show. "

They won't kill Sony, it will be like a bee sting, annoying can cause a stumble and a little cursing but no real damage.ferret-gamer

Do you honestly think a multibillion dollar company that spans half the world would permit itself to be destroyed by a bunch of nerds?

On Sony as corporation scale this whole hacking thing is like a small leg injury on bike ride :p SCE as part of Sony got hit much stroger

lol@people wishing bad on sony.

they didn't die in 2006 with the ps3 launch

they didn't die in 2007 when the ps3 game libarary was growing slowly

they didn't die in 2008 when the price was still high

they didn't die in 2009 when they were getting ont their feet with a solid library and the price was getting lower

they didn't die in 2010 when the ps3 pretty much blew away the competition by then with offing of exclusive games

they won't die in 2011 because they didn't die from the other stuff

i never understood why people looked down on sony all the time and wish for this to happen or to continue to happen.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

give me £100 (cause im skint) a baseball bat,a blow torch and a pair of plyers and i'll f up these hill billy hackers *puts on gloves*

Seriously if they force sony out the market its a sad day and shows how pathetically relentless they are and the fact they should maybe just give up on life if their aim is to be butthurt at otheros being removed but most are bandwagoning little freaks.

viper-kid

hur dur their fun is probably a box of pizza and a keyboard along with a hacking screen..*BAM MASSIVE HARDON*

truely do find thier "activism" pathetic, it only brings more rules, it only causes more problems and hatred for their little sect.

The last attack cost Sony--a multi billion dollar company--170 million in damages. I mean, that's still a lot regardless but I don't think it's enough to bankrupt the company.Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]The last attack cost Sony--a multi billion dollar company--170 million in damages. I mean, that's still a lot regardless but I don't think it's enough to bankrupt the company.Captainqwark10

their phone divisions,movie divions,music divisions are also still very sucessful.

A lot of smaller labels distribute with Sony as they are good at distributing....sometimes.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]The last attack cost Sony--a multi billion dollar company--170 million in damages. I mean, that's still a lot regardless but I don't think it's enough to bankrupt the company.Captainqwark10

Its a shame that people and gamers are being affected by this and I'm certainly not condoning it, but maybe big corporations will learn that sometimes when you try and stomp on the little guy, lots of little guys stomping back may have an effect.blue_hazy_basic

.. It honestly has nothing to do with stomping back.. This is 2011 people.. Hacking isa daily occurence in all settings.. Sony got caught with their pants down.. They were the weakest of the herd and were exploited by the predators stalking them.. There are numerous systems that have avoided such things happening, which leads me to believe it was Sony's own incompetence or cutting corners to cheapen it that led to this.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Its a shame that people and gamers are being affected by this and I'm certainly not condoning it, but maybe big corporations will learn that sometimes when you try and stomp on the little guy, lots of little guys stomping back may have an effect.sSubZerOo

.. It honestly has nothing to do with stomping back.. This is 2011 people.. Hacking isa daily occurence in all settings.. Sony got caught with their pants down.. They were the weakest of the herd and were exploited by the predators stalking them.. There are numerous systems that have avoided such things happening, which leads me to believe it was Sony's own incompetence or cutting corners to cheapen it that led to this.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Its a shame that people and gamers are being affected by this and I'm certainly not condoning it, but maybe big corporations will learn that sometimes when you try and stomp on the little guy, lots of little guys stomping back may have an effect.blue_hazy_basic

.. It honestly has nothing to do with stomping back.. This is 2011 people.. Hacking isa daily occurence in all settings.. Sony got caught with their pants down.. They were the weakest of the herd and were exploited by the predators stalking them.. There are numerous systems that have avoided such things happening, which leads me to believe it was Sony's own incompetence or cutting corners to cheapen it that led to this.

Yeah because you know :| hackers were COMPLETELY harmless and didn't try to hack in any systems..

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

.. It honestly has nothing to do with stomping back.. This is 2011 people.. Hacking isa daily occurence in all settings.. Sony got caught with their pants down.. They were the weakest of the herd and were exploited by the predators stalking them.. There are numerous systems that have avoided such things happening, which leads me to believe it was Sony's own incompetence or cutting corners to cheapen it that led to this.

Yeah because you know :| hackers were COMPLETELY harmless and didn't try to hack in any systems..

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]The last attack cost Sony--a multi billion dollar company--170 million in damages. I mean, that's still a lot regardless but I don't think it's enough to bankrupt the company.Captainqwark10

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] That is as maybe, but it was their actions that brought them to the attention of the hacking community.blue_hazy_basic

Yeah because you know :| hackers were COMPLETELY harmless and didn't try to hack in any systems..

... But thats what you were suggesting that hackers were passive until they reached they got their ire.. Which just isn't the case. Hacking is a daily event that we have countless security measures for.. In the end of the day it was Sony's own incompetence that led to this breach.. Hacking has been around for over a decade, Sony is a multi billion dollar company that has the technology and resources to make a extremely secure system.. They failed.

[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"]It's funny that you care what other people say about them. If they don't care about our opinions why should you? lolMrSelf-Destruct

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Yeah because you know :| hackers were COMPLETELY harmless and didn't try to hack in any systems..

sSubZerOo

... But thats what you were suggesting that hackers were passive until they reached they got their ire.. Which just isn't the case. Hacking is a daily event that we have countless security measures for.. In the end of the day it was Sony's own incompetence that led to this breach.. Hacking has been around for over a decade, Sony is a multi billion dollar company that has the technology and resources to make a extremely secure system.. They failed.

They already have. You have to be a total Sony zealout to think that Sony has shown any capability to deter this now or in the future or did a good job during this event. I'm still waiting for a Sony fanboy to answer why is it taking Sony longer to recover then smaller companies with larger networks and larger scale attacks were able to.

They might be able to get them out of the gaming market (because it stops being profitable), but killing Sony? lolz

They won't kill Sony, it will be like a bee sting, annoying can cause a stumble and a little cursing but no real damage.ferret-gamer

No real damage?? well, PSN is proof you're worng, man.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

No real damage?? well, PSN is proof you're worng, man.

blue_hazy_basic

LOl really? that basically cost them 171 million ( improvements in network infrastructure and the welcome back program). For a company that has about 40 billion to spend thats a stumble. If the hackers accomplish anything it will be new legislation that gets passed that cracks down on them to the point where they will be treated like terrorist.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-30/sony-leads-japan-inc-circling-takeovers-with-2-4-trillion-cash-real-m-a.html

"Sony had the most cash, with $8.3 billion more in reserves than borrowings as of March, the data show. That's a sevenfold increase in five years. Japan's largest exporter of consumer electronics had an average return on equity, which measures how much a company earns for each dollar invested, of 0.2 percent in that span, versus an 8.3 percent return in the Topix.

Since Howard Stringer, 69, was named Sony's first non- Japanese chief executive officer in March 2005, the company has lost about $9 billion in market value, the data show. From its high four years ago, Sony's equity has decreased by $33 billion.

Sony, which posted three straight years of losses for the first time since listing its shares in 1958, on May 26 forecast net income this fiscal year that fell short of analysts' estimates by 31 percent, data compiled by Bloomberg show. "

I beleive 40 billion is the overall worth of the company, but they still have reserves. For a company to even think about failing or merging they need to be in debt.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

No real damage?? well, PSN is proof you're worng, man.

Phazevariance

I doubt many people actually went out and bought the competing hardware when PSN was down.

Muahaha! this might be our chance to kill consoles! Please let Microsoft be next!

Anonymous is Legion. There is nothing that They can't kill..

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

LOl really? that basically cost them 171 million ( improvements in network infrastructure and the welcome back program). For a company that has about 40 billion to spend thats a stumble. If the hackers accomplish anything it will be new legislation that gets passed that cracks down on them to the point where they will be treated like terrorist.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-30/sony-leads-japan-inc-circling-takeovers-with-2-4-trillion-cash-real-m-a.html

"Sony had the most cash, with $8.3 billion more in reserves than borrowings as of March, the data show. That's a sevenfold increase in five years. Japan's largest exporter of consumer electronics had an average return on equity, which measures how much a company earns for each dollar invested, of 0.2 percent in that span, versus an 8.3 percent return in the Topix.

Since Howard Stringer, 69, was named Sony's first non- Japanese chief executive officer in March 2005, the company has lost about $9 billion in market value, the data show. From its high four years ago, Sony's equity has decreased by $33 billion.

Sony, which posted three straight years of losses for the first time since listing its shares in 1958, on May 26 forecast net income this fiscal year that fell short of analysts' estimates by 31 percent, data compiled by Bloomberg show. "

I beleive 40 billion is the overall worth of the company, but they still have reserves. For a company to even think about failing or merging they need to be in debt.

Anonymous is Legion. There is nothing that They can't kill..

Lucianu

Anonymous is Legion. There is nothing that They can't kill..

Really? The PSN hack caused Anon to start attacking themselves.Jynxzor

They only made us *think* that they started attacking themselfs, that was mearly a illusion by Anonymous to confuse us and purposly make us underestimate them.

They never claimed to be, only people who don't understand what anon is, and what the group hacking PSN are, would say that.blue_hazy_basic

You're wrong, Anonymous is Legion, a machine like force which is practically unstoppable by petty mortals, if Anonymous has a common goal between them. I know this, because the voices in my head told me so. I bealieve it was the depths of the unified quantum mind that dwelves in Anonymous Itself that telepatically comunicated with me.

[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]Really? The PSN hack caused Anon to start attacking themselves.Lucianu

They only made us *think* that they started attacking themselfs, that was mearly a illusion by Anonymous to confuse us and purposly make us underestimate them.

They never claimed to be, only people who don't understand what anon is, and what the group hacking PSN are, would say that.blue_hazy_basic

You're wrong, Anonymous is Legion, a machine like force which is practically unstoppable by petty mortals, if Anonymous has a common goal between them. I know this, because the voices in my head told me so. I bealieve it was the depths of the unified quantum mind that dwelves in Anonymous Itself that telepatically comunicated with me.

Kill Sony as a whole? Highly doubtful. Create enough problems for Sony's gaming division to have it's plug pulled? Maybe.

Harm Sony? Yes. Kill Sony? No. Sony has other divisions like Music, Movies, TV's,etc. But still, I don't think their gaming division would die.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]The last attack cost Sony--a multi billion dollar company--170 million in damages. I mean, that's still a lot regardless but I don't think it's enough to bankrupt the company.Captainqwark10