Could The Mass Effect Collection for PS3 be announced at this year's E3?

I don't think so , but if it happened I wouldn't be entirely surprised , and SW would become an even funnier place despite the fact of it being multiplat since the beggining.

Going to bookmark this thread so that if something does happen in the future, I can laugh at everyone.

mD-

you still doing that bet with dantheman?

I was particularly excited to see you lose that. like 9 months to go now, isn't it?

edit: he still has it in his sig. have fun losing BTW:D

Ok, first off all of you saying that ME2 has only sold 1.6 million units, it has sold 1.72 million on the 360 alone:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=28815

also, the PS3(0.82mil) version of Dragon age didn't sell anywhere near as well as on the 360(1.58mil)

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=33502

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=33505

So, even if Microsoft doesn't have some sort of exclusivity agreement(which they probably do), why would Bioware and EA waste the resources to port these games to the PS3 when the one game they have released on PS3 didn't prove to them that very many PS3 owners really want to buy a Bioware game.

iamdanthaman

bottom right^

then read this.

came up with this after I cotemplated more about MS's dealings with Bioware on Jade Empire and KOTOR. and the rumor of the KOTOR MMO on 360 (which is as likely as ME on PS3 anyhow:P)

As much as I want to say no to stop the "will it or won't it" drama here I'd say that after GTA Episodes, a supposed exclusive made its way on PS3 and after the lack of any flat out denial of it coming to PS3 its "possible".

Still, I'd say its highly unlikely. If it did happen I think lems (and maybe some hermits) would riot.

SPYDER0416

Mass Effect was published by Microsoft, so even if the whole Bioware is owned by EA now thing did play out, all the PS3 could get is ME2 and maybe ME3. Microsoft would still own the rights to the original ME.

Why not just play these great games on the PC? I'm sure ME3 will be on the PC also. There's your trilogy right there. The system specs are not that high, and the games themselves are cheaper on the PC. Seems like a no brainer.

coasterguy65

Another thing worth mentioning to fuel the flames of rumor and gossip: several retailers and even EA's own Russian website listed Mass Effect 2 for PS3 temporarily, but then had it taken down when someone up top noticed. This isn't just some random fluke-- this has happened with a lot of former exclusives that went multiplatform either before or after release. When a project as big and important as porting a game happens, a lot of people have to keep their mouths shut, and if an ME/ME2 port is headed to PS3 then it shouldn't be a surprise that knowledge of it accidentally leaks out here and there.

BTW...

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

As much as I want to say no to stop the "will it or won't it" drama here I'd say that after GTA Episodes, a supposed exclusive made its way on PS3 and after the lack of any flat out denial of it coming to PS3 its "possible".

Still, I'd say its highly unlikely. If it did happen I think lems (and maybe some hermits) would riot.

Timstuff

Mass Effect was published by Microsoft, so even if the whole Bioware is owned by EA now thing did play out, all the PS3 could get is ME2 and maybe ME3. Microsoft would still own the rights to the original ME.

Why not just play these great games on the PC? I'm sure ME3 will be on the PC also. There's your trilogy right there. The system specs are not that high, and the games themselves are cheaper on the PC. Seems like a no brainer.

coasterguy65

Another thing worth mentioning to fuel the flames of rumor and gossip: several retailers and even EA's own Russian website listed Mass Effect 2 for PS3 temporarily, but then had it taken down when someone up top noticed. This isn't just some random fluke-- this has happened with a lot of former exclusives that went multiplatform either before or after release. When a project as big and important as porting a game happens, a lot of people have to keep their mouths shut, and if an ME/ME2 port is headed to PS3 then it shouldn't be a surprise that knowledge of it accidentally leaks out here and there.

BTW...

All I can say is if it doesn't happen at E3 then its never going to happen. I like what you did with the boxart though.

[QUOTE="iamdanthaman"]

Ok, first off all of you saying that ME2 has only sold 1.6 million units, it has sold 1.72 million on the 360 alone:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=28815

also, the PS3(0.82mil) version of Dragon age didn't sell anywhere near as well as on the 360(1.58mil)

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=33502

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=33505

So, even if Microsoft doesn't have some sort of exclusivity agreement(which they probably do), why would Bioware and EA waste the resources to port these games to the PS3 when the one game they have released on PS3 didn't prove to them that very many PS3 owners really want to buy a Bioware game.

HavocV3

bottom right^

then read this.

came up with this after I cotemplated more about MS's dealings with Bioware on Jade Empire and KOTOR. and the rumor of the KOTOR MMO on 360 (which is as likely as ME on PS3 anyhow:P)

This is completely different. FASA Studio was a fully owned subsidiary of MGS, therefore Microsoft would have taken ownership of the developer's IPs. This was not the case with Bioware. MGS published the game only for the 360. EA published ME1 on the PC - I don't believe MS have any ownership over the IP or Mass Effect 1 as a standalone game.

[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

[QUOTE="iamdanthaman"]

Ok, first off all of you saying that ME2 has only sold 1.6 million units, it has sold 1.72 million on the 360 alone:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=28815

also, the PS3(0.82mil) version of Dragon age didn't sell anywhere near as well as on the 360(1.58mil)

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=33502

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=33505

So, even if Microsoft doesn't have some sort of exclusivity agreement(which they probably do), why would Bioware and EA waste the resources to port these games to the PS3 when the one game they have released on PS3 didn't prove to them that very many PS3 owners really want to buy a Bioware game.

raynimrod

bottom right^

then read this.

came up with this after I cotemplated more about MS's dealings with Bioware on Jade Empire and KOTOR. and the rumor of the KOTOR MMO on 360 (which is as likely as ME on PS3 anyhow:P)

This is completely different. FASA Studio was a fully owned subsidiary of MGS, therefore Microsoft would have taken ownership of the developers IPs. This was not the case with Bioware. MGS published the game only for the 360. EA published ME1 on the PC - I don't believe MS have any ownership over the IP or Mass Effect 1 as a standalone game.

Bingo!

BTW, as to the comment that if ME for PS3 doesn't get announced at E3, it will never happen-- I agree that if there's no announcement at E3, the odds of it ever happening go down quite a bit. However, look at how long it took the expansion packs for GTA4 to get announced for PS3. It was over a year after Lost and Damned came out! There are other popular announcement spots around the year other than E3, also. Even if E3 comes and goes with no ME PS3 announcements, I wouldn't count on the rumors dying just yet.

I know some will take this link the wrong way, but for those of you who are still sane, here you go:

http://news.spong.com/article/14790/EA-Publishing-Mass-Effect-For-PC-Other-Platforms-to-Follow

Frank Gibeau, president of EA's Games Label added, "EA has struck an agreement with Microsoft to handle future publishing for Mass Effect"

And why would EA have to strike a deal with microsoft to publish Mass Effect? The only reason would be if Microsoft owned the publishing rights. So the only way that it can go to PS3 is if MS signs off on it.

I know some will take this link the wrong way, but for those of you who are still sane, here you go:

http://news.spong.com/article/14790/EA-Publishing-Mass-Effect-For-PC-Other-Platforms-to-Follow

Frank Gibeau, president of EA's Games Label added, "EA has struck an agreement with Microsoft to handle future publishing for Mass Effect"

And why would EA have to strike a deal with microsoft to publish Mass Effect? The only reason would be if Microsoft owned the publishing rights. So the only way that it can go to PS3 is if MS signs off on it.

iamdanthaman

I know some will take this link the wrong way, but for those of you who are still sane, here you go:

http://news.spong.com/article/14790/EA-Publishing-Mass-Effect-For-PC-Other-Platforms-to-Follow

Frank Gibeau, president of EA's Games Label added, "EA has struck an agreement with Microsoft to handle future publishing for Mass Effect"

And why would EA have to strike a deal with microsoft to publish Mass Effect? The only reason would be if Microsoft owned the publishing rights. So the only way that it can go to PS3 is if MS signs off on it.

iamdanthaman

Well there's still nothing definitive there. Still a lot of "no comment" when asked the question of other platforms. Given that the deal had already been struck, if MGS did own the publishing rights and it has been signed over to EA, surely MGS no longer hold those rights. Publishing rights do not include rights to the entire IP. That generally happens only when the developing studio is a subsidiary of the publisher. Once you sign publishing rights to another company, you no longer have the right to determine where a 3rd party developer's content can be published.

At least this is how I see it.

Nah, not gonna happen.C-Lee

[QUOTE="iamdanthaman"]

I know some will take this link the wrong way, but for those of you who are still sane, here you go:

http://news.spong.com/article/14790/EA-Publishing-Mass-Effect-For-PC-Other-Platforms-to-Follow

Frank Gibeau, president of EA's Games Label added, "EA has struck an agreement with Microsoft to handle future publishing for Mass Effect"

And why would EA have to strike a deal with microsoft to publish Mass Effect? The only reason would be if Microsoft owned the publishing rights. So the only way that it can go to PS3 is if MS signs off on it.

raynimrod

Well there's still nothing definitive there. Still a lot of "no comment" when asked the question of other platforms. Given that the deal had already been struck, if MGS did own the publishing rights and it has been signed over to EA, surely MGS no longer hold those rights. Publishing rights do not include rights to the entire IP. That generally happens only when the developing studio is a subsidiary of the publisher. Once you sign publishing rights to another company, you no longer have the right to determine where a 3rd party developer's content can be published.

At least this is how I see it.

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

[QUOTE="iamdanthaman"]

I know some will take this link the wrong way, but for those of you who are still sane, here you go:

http://news.spong.com/article/14790/EA-Publishing-Mass-Effect-For-PC-Other-Platforms-to-Follow

Frank Gibeau, president of EA's Games Label added, "EA has struck an agreement with Microsoft to handle future publishing for Mass Effect"

And why would EA have to strike a deal with microsoft to publish Mass Effect? The only reason would be if Microsoft owned the publishing rights. So the only way that it can go to PS3 is if MS signs off on it.

iamdanthaman

Well there's still nothing definitive there. Still a lot of "no comment" when asked the question of other platforms. Given that the deal had already been struck, if MGS did own the publishing rights and it has been signed over to EA, surely MGS no longer hold those rights. Publishing rights do not include rights to the entire IP. That generally happens only when the developing studio is a subsidiary of the publisher. Once you sign publishing rights to another company, you no longer have the right to determine where a 3rd party developer's content can be published.

At least this is how I see it.

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

[QUOTE="iamdanthaman"]

I know some will take this link the wrong way, but for those of you who are still sane, here you go:

http://news.spong.com/article/14790/EA-Publishing-Mass-Effect-For-PC-Other-Platforms-to-Follow

Frank Gibeau, president of EA's Games Label added, "EA has struck an agreement with Microsoft to handle future publishing for Mass Effect"

And why would EA have to strike a deal with microsoft to publish Mass Effect? The only reason would be if Microsoft owned the publishing rights. So the only way that it can go to PS3 is if MS signs off on it.

iamdanthaman

Well there's still nothing definitive there. Still a lot of "no comment" when asked the question of other platforms. Given that the deal had already been struck, if MGS did own the publishing rights and it has been signed over to EA, surely MGS no longer hold those rights. Publishing rights do not include rights to the entire IP. That generally happens only when the developing studio is a subsidiary of the publisher. Once you sign publishing rights to another company, you no longer have the right to determine where a 3rd party developer's content can be published.

At least this is how I see it.

I see where you're coming from. If MGS haven't sold the publishing rights, those rights will only extend to the first game. MGS do not own the IP, so it's definitely possible that ME2 and/or 3 could eventuate on the PS3. What good this would do if the first game can't be published on the PS3 is unclear.

Considering we don't know the specific details of the agreements and current publishing rights (by either MGS or EA) I don't think it's at all ludicrous to suggest even the possibility of the ME series coming to the Playstation.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]BioWare said they had MS exclusivity regarding Mass Effect, so I don't think it's likely.Timstuff

[QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="IronBass"]BioWare said they had MS exclusivity regarding Mass Effect, so I don't think it's likely.WilliamRLBaker

Yes it could.

I dont know. but i would get it for PS3 if it came out even though i have it on PC and have a 360 :o

Why do you guys keep torturing yourselves,it´s not going to happen.

I hope it really does happen. I'd love to play Mass Effect 1&2.

Whoa that game box looks so cool. Reminds me of Aliens :D.

I hope they do it. ME is a game that needs to be enjoyed in every platform. Please Bioware, pretty please :twisted:

Whoa that game box looks so cool. Reminds me of Aliens :D.

I hope they do it. ME is a game that needs to be enjoyed in every platform. Please Bioware, pretty please :twisted:

Sim_genius

I am reminded of another classic 80's movie.

:D

LOL imageboards...

Why all the "No"s? It's not like it was exclusive or anything and I think there's a good possibility that it could. I hope so, anyways. I had a lot of fun on the 360 versions and would rather play on the Playstation 3 for trophies and or to completely overhaul my Shepard again. Everyone should experience Mass Effect.

Well I'd still be willing to bet that when Microsoft Game signed over the rights to EA for the PC they held onto the console rights. I doubt they would give those up. So I'd say the port probably won't happen. Again, if a PS3 user wants to play the game, why not just get it on the PC? Why wait 1-2 years and play sloppy thirds, just to play it on the PS3?

[QUOTE="Sim_genius"]

Whoa that game box looks so cool. Reminds me of Aliens :D.

I hope they do it. ME is a game that needs to be enjoyed in every platform. Please Bioware, pretty please :twisted:

Timstuff

I am reminded of another classic 80's movie.

:D

Tron! Thank you :D

I don't know why I thought of Alien Resurection first hehehe :P

I dont see why its so unlikely since so many people would buy it. Seems like a simple choice.Kokuro_Kun

I dont see why its so unlikely since so many people would buy it. Seems like a simple choice.Kokuro_Kun

[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]I dont see why its so unlikely since so many people would buy it. Seems like a simple choice.Phazevariance

[QUOTE="Phazevariance"][QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]I dont see why its so unlikely since so many people would buy it. Seems like a simple choice.Timstuff

LOL imageboards...

Timstuff

I lol'ed.

Do you prefer 360. SAY THAT THIS IDEA IS CRAZY

Do you prefer pc. DONT CARE CUS YOU GOT BETTER VERON

Do you prefer ps3. YES IT WILL HAPPEN

[QUOTE="Phazevariance"][QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]I dont see why its so unlikely since so many people would buy it. Seems like a simple choice.Timstuff

then why did Smith and Tinker have to obtain permission from MS to distribute MechWarrior 4 for free?

let's see here:

MechWarriors rise was not affiliated with Micosoft, at all. the first games were in dealings with Activision, but they had not owned the IP.

it move onto another publisher, Microprose, and then soon after sold to MS.

the IP sat dormant for 7 years, was bought back by the person who CREATED the IP. they CANNOT distribute ANY of those games without Activisions, Microprose's or MS's permission. across MW2, 3 and 4. MW4 is the only game being distributed for free because MS recently allowed it.

applying this to the different game, Mass Effect, and putting a price tag puts it in a very similar situation.

they OWNED the IP and COULD NOT distribute the game under that IP. MS still retained publishing rights, Activision still does, Microprose still does.

this rules out ME1 indefinitely, I'm sure. the rest is bleak, as I continually point out with Jade Empire and KOTOR. MS has made some tight-knit connections with Bioware, without ever directly owning them.

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

[QUOTE="Phazevariance"] Just because bioware is owned by EA doesnt mean their previous contracts are void. Infact, for all we know, MS may own part of or all of the publishing rights on that IP, so even if Bioware owns the IP they have to publish it through MS. (for all we know)Phazevariance

You want facts? Look at the box for ANY Mass Effect game except for the 360 version of the first game. They are all published by EA, not Microsoft. The only place you'll find Microsoft is next to the words "Xbox" and "Windows."

Microsoft does not own Mass Effect. They have the publishing rights to the first game on Xbox 360, but they do not own any aspect of it beyond that. They have an exclusive arrangement with EA to keep the game off the PS3 (for now), but I repeat, THEY DO NOT OWN ANY PART OF THE MASS EFFECT FRANCHISE. The IP belonged to Bioware, and EA bought Bioware. MS had an agreement to publish Mass Effect on Xbox 360, so Bioware kept up their end of the deal. That contract is over, and now they're on whatever contract came out of the buyout.

If we look at everything that's happened so far, it probably resulted in time exclusive rights to the first two games, plus the right to publish the first game for Xbox 360. Beyond that, EA can do whatever they want with the franchise, and that could very likely include publishing it on PS3 once their contract with Microsoft expires. They made that agreement with MS all the way back in 2007 so it's quite likely to expire soon.

Again, Mass Effect is not Microsoft's property, AT ALL. EA bought Bioware, so they got Mass Effect. MS publishing the first game on 360 was part of their initial agreement, and it's been fulfilled. We can only guess what kind of arrangement EA made with MS beyond that, but it would be foolhardy to believe that EA is allowing themselves to be tied to MS indefinitely. They are a mutliplatform publisher, and they are not the type to be chained to only one manufacturer.

but having to see the Microsoft Games Studio logo on the possible PS3 version would be completely golden.:D

I'd gladly take that trade off if I worked for MS.

but having to see the Microsoft Games Studio logo on the possible PS3 version would be completely golden.:D

I'd gladly take that trade off if I worked for MS.

HavocV3

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

Just because bioware is owned by EA doesnt mean their previous contracts are void. Infact, for all we know, MS may own part of or all of the publishing rights on that IP, so even if Bioware owns the IP they have to publish it through MS. (for all we know)Phazevariance

then why did Smith and Tinker have to obtain permission from MS to distribute MechWarrior 4 for free?

let's see here:

MechWarriors rise was not affiliated with Micosoft, at all. the first games were in dealings with Activision, but they had not owned the IP.

it move onto another publisher, Microprose, and then soon after sold to MS.

the IP sat dormant for 7 years, was bought back by the person who CREATED the IP. they CANNOT distribute ANY of those games without Activisions, Microprose's or MS's permission. across MW2, 3 and 4. MW4 is the only game being distributed for free because MS recently allowed it.

applying this to the different game, Mass Effect, and putting a price tag puts it in a very similar situation.

they OWNED the IP and COULD NOT distribute the game under that IP. MS still retained publishing rights, Activision still does, Microprose still does.

this rules out ME1 indefinitely, I'm sure. the rest is bleak, as I continually point out with Jade Empire and KOTOR. MS has made some tight-knit connections with Bioware, without ever directly owning them.

[QUOTE="Phazevariance"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]FACT: The ONLY Mass Effect game that MS has published was the Xbox 360 version of ME1. The PC version, and both versions of ME2 are published by EA. Third party publisher = time exclusive contract. The question is, will EA's contract with MS expire soon enough that it will still be worth porting ME1 and ME2? I would hope so. MS lost a pretty sizeable chunk of their stake in ME when EA bought Bioware, though. For all we know, the ONLY thing MS retained after the buyout was the right to publish the 360 version of ME1, and time exclusivity on that and ME2. For all we know, EA can publish both games on whatever system they want as soon as the time exclusivity expires.

Timstuff

the one particular point you tried to make simply fell under the paragraph I recently wrote.

'MS doesn't own Mass Effect' they had publishing rights

'MS no longer owns the MechWarrior IP' yet Smith and Tinker, and the creator of the IP, way back in 1985, still had to get permission to distribute a game MS had their name on.

again, I call the first game being on PS3 an impossibility. the others have a slightly 'better' chance. but it sounds too close, or, if you're lucky, you'll see the game in 7-8 years:| when MS sees nothing left in the ME1 title.

[QUOTE="Phazevariance"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]FACT: The ONLY Mass Effect game that MS has published was the Xbox 360 version of ME1. The PC version, and both versions of ME2 are published by EA. Third party publisher = time exclusive contract. The question is, will EA's contract with MS expire soon enough that it will still be worth porting ME1 and ME2? I would hope so. MS lost a pretty sizeable chunk of their stake in ME when EA bought Bioware, though. For all we know, the ONLY thing MS retained after the buyout was the right to publish the 360 version of ME1, and time exclusivity on that and ME2. For all we know, EA can publish both games on whatever system they want as soon as the time exclusivity expires.

Timstuff

You want facts? Look at the box for ANY Mass Effect game except for the 360 version of the first game. They are all published by EA, not Microsoft. The only place you'll find Microsoft is next to the words "Xbox" and "Windows."

Microsoft does not own Mass Effect. They have the publishing rights to the first game on Xbox 360, but they do not own any aspect of it beyond that. They have an exclusive arrangement with EA to keep the game off the PS3 (for now), but I repeat, THEY DO NOT OWN ANY PART OF THE MASS EFFECT FRANCHISE. The IP belonged to Bioware, and EA bought Bioware. MS had an agreement to publish Mass Effect on Xbox 360, so Bioware kept up their end of the deal. That contract is over, and now they're on whatever contract came out of the buyout.

If we look at everything that's happened so far, it probably resulted in time exclusive rights to the first two games, plus the right to publish the first game for Xbox 360. Beyond that, EA can do whatever they want with the franchise, and that could very likely include publishing it on PS3 once their contract with Microsoft expires. They made that agreement with MS all the way back in 2007 so it's quite likely to expire soon.

Again, Mass Effect is not Microsoft's property, AT ALL. EA bought Bioware, so they got Mass Effect. MS publishing the first game on 360 was part of their initial agreement, and it's been fulfilled. We can only guess what kind of arrangement EA made with MS beyond that, but it would be foolhardy to believe that EA is allowing themselves to be tied to MS indefinitely. They are a mutliplatform publisher, and they are not the type to be chained to only one manufacturer.

Yes, your fact is that EA is on the box. Good fact, unfortunately, doesn't prove your point one bit AT ALL. Prove to me that EA has rights to publish the game without MS in anyway. I don't think you understand the grey area of publishing rights AT ALL. If you're going to be guessing on stuff, then you're just arguing with your own mind to convince yourself of a reality you wish would be true. No body knows the terms of the deal made with bioware, and just because EA bought bioware does not 'AT ALL' mean their contracts are void. Real life doesn't work like that.

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

[QUOTE="Phazevariance"] Just because bioware is owned by EA doesnt mean their previous contracts are void. Infact, for all we know, MS may own part of or all of the publishing rights on that IP, so even if Bioware owns the IP they have to publish it through MS. (for all we know)HavocV3

then why did Smith and Tinker have to obtain permission from MS to distribute MechWarrior 4 for free?

let's see here:

MechWarriors rise was not affiliated with Micosoft, at all. the first games were in dealings with Activision, but they had not owned the IP.

it move onto another publisher, Microprose, and then soon after sold to MS.

the IP sat dormant for 7 years, was bought back by the person who CREATED the IP. they CANNOT distribute ANY of those games without Activisions, Microprose's or MS's permission. across MW2, 3 and 4. MW4 is the only game being distributed for free because MS recently allowed it.

applying this to the different game, Mass Effect, and putting a price tag puts it in a very similar situation.

they OWNED the IP and COULD NOT distribute the game under that IP. MS still retained publishing rights, Activision still does, Microprose still does.

this rules out ME1 indefinitely, I'm sure. the rest is bleak, as I continually point out with Jade Empire and KOTOR. MS has made some tight-knit connections with Bioware, without ever directly owning them.

Likewise, since Microsoft owns the Mechwarrior name, the creators of Mechwarrior 4 needed MS's permission to re-release Mechwarrior for free. Mass Effect is a very different situation. It's EA's intellectual property, and Microsoft has a license to distribute the Xbox 360 version of the first game, plus an exclusive deal for at least the first two games which sooner or later will expire (the only question being when). You are playing armchair attourney and writing the rules to fit your argument. I am going by what we know, and what I see: EA bought Bioware, and Mass Effect came with them. EA honored Bioware's commitment to let Microsoft publish the 360 version of ME1, and now that contract is fulfilled. Microsoft does not own the first game indefinitely, as you seem to claim. EA does, and Microsoft is essentially renting it.

[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

but having to see the Microsoft Games Studio logo on the possible PS3 version would be completely golden.:D

I'd gladly take that trade off if I worked for MS.

[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

but having to see the Microsoft Games Studio logo on the possible PS3 version would be completely golden.:D

I'd gladly take that trade off if I worked for MS.

[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

but having to see the Microsoft Games Studio logo on the possible PS3 version would be completely golden.:D

I'd gladly take that trade off if I worked for MS.

Timstuff

I suppose that's a fair point.

but from reading a little bit about them, they're somewhat different titles.

particularly 'Ninja Gaiden 2' vs 'Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2'

though, a simple name change doesn't provide enough difference.

it doesn't really fall under a similar circumstance considering the first Ninja Gaiden/Dead or Alive games were published by Tecmo, NG2 was by MS. this situation is particularly different for being backwards. and that Sigma 2 does differ mildly from Ninja Gaiden, content-wise.

'the one guy' that was head of Team Ninja also has a lot to do with the game's association to the Xbox brand. Sigma went on without his affiliation and Sigma 2 came by after he left the developer.

anyhow, I'm sticking with my ME1 theories, strictly. ME2 does have me somewhat skeptical, but I can care less, maybe I'll start right now