Could we call Mass Effect a sleeper hit?

Cause it's only been heard of in the internet gaming world. or people who get the OXM.

you take your average joe gamer, that doesnt read about gaming news. and they have never heard of mass effect.

people have heard of halo or gta. but you mention mass effect and they dont even know what it is.

for example go into a MTV forum and ask who has heard of GTA vs Mass Effect.

Sleeper Hit imo.

Nah, see sleeper hits usually gain unexpected success. A lot of people from System Wars here expect Mass Effect to do really well (and there are those who don't).

No way, a sleeper hit is when a game is made, and it seems like someone made it in their sleep, with the hit part being when they get slapped in the face for being so lazy. Sort of like many 360 to PS3 ports. Man, do those devs deserve a slap in the face. Maybe if they weren't sleeping off the grog they could port a decent game or two.

No, I don't think so.

The game is being made by a big developer, and has had magazine advertisement and lots of media.

We can call an apple an orange. But, then we'd be like... it's red, not orange (or even green).

*head explodes*

I agree with Socrates, it should sell somewhat similarly to KotOR, whatever those sales were like.

The game is just as niche as Jade Empire, KOTOR, and all the other Bioware games. Don't be surprise it will sell just like the others. Why do people expect big big sales from this game is a surprise to me. WRPG are not popular...Socrates88

I dont think its niche as Jade Empire.

The whole sci fi setting and real time combat would appeal to a very broad audience. Hell WRPGs do sell well: Morrowind, Oblivion, Kotor, Diablo, Fallout just to name a few.

The game is just as niche as Jade Empire, KOTOR, and all the other Bioware games. Don't be surprise it will sell just like the others. Why do people expect big big sales from this game is a surprise to me. WRPG are not popular...Socrates88

WoW............................

Cause it's only been heard of in the internet gaming world. or people who get the OXM.

you take your average joe gamer, that doesnt read about gaming news. and they have never heard of mass effect.

people have heard of halo or gta. but you mention mass effect and they dont even know what it is.

for example go into a MTV forum and ask who has heard of GTA vs Mass Effect.

Sleeper Hit imo.

HeHateMe_basic

MTV forums? What's wrong with you?

Anyways, I bet most of those people on there are casuals who own BulletProff andcouldn't tella good game from a bad game if it hit them in the face.

Sleeper hit? No, most of the more serious gamers know of this game.

The game is just as niche as Jade Empire, KOTOR, and all the other Bioware games. Don't be surprise it will sell just like the others. Why do people expect big big sales from this game is a surprise to me. WRPG are not popular...Socrates88

Statement couldn't be more WRONG!!

KOTOR sold over 1 million copies (how is that niche?)

Link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games#Xbox

what??

everyone who owns a 360 knows what this game is..its a big profile game for the 360!

I agree that Bioware is a niche company but I think KOTOR was a big enough title that Mass Effect could not be considered a sleeper hit if it is fact a sales success.

I agree that Bioware is a niche company but I think KOTOR was a big enough title that Mass Effect could not be considered a sleeper hit if it is fact a sales success.

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The game is just as niche as Jade Empire, KOTOR, and all the other Bioware games. Don't be surprise it will sell just like the others. Why do people expect big big sales from this game is a surprise to me. WRPG are not popular...Socrates88

Eh? WRPGs sell well.

The Diablo franchise has sold 17 million.

Oblivion's sold about 3 million.

The WoW franchise is at like 10+ million (and yes, MMORPGs are a subgenre of WRPGs if their from the West).

Not to mention Bioware games themselves!

KOTOR sold over 1 million in the US alone, NeverWinter Nights hit 2 million, Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 sold 2 million a piece.

Anything over 1 million is a big success.

Cause it's only been heard of in the internet gaming world. or people who get the OXM.

you take your average joe gamer, that doesnt read about gaming news. and they have never heard of mass effect.

people have heard of halo or gta. but you mention mass effect and they dont even know what it is.

for example go into a MTV forum and ask who has heard of GTA vs Mass Effect.

Sleeper Hit imo.

HeHateMe_basic

How can one of the most highly anticipated games of the year be a Sleeper. It is going to be a hit or a Flop. Sleeper is not an option. You might be right that people on the MTV forums might not know about it. GTAIV might be the only game they have heard about most people have no Idea what games are coming out. You must have some time on your hands if you are spending it in the MTV forms. I bet there are very cerebral conversations going on their. NOT.

nah we cant. its pretty much main stream.

For the topic, I think the darkness will be a sleeper hit. It's the spiritual successor to Riddick, one of the biggest sleeper hits in recent times. rpg9000owner

now riddick is a sleeper hit "oh its just another low budget movie liscenced game, meh"

Cause it's only been heard of in the internet gaming world. or people who get the OXM.

you take your average joe gamer, that doesnt read about gaming news. and they have never heard of mass effect.

people have heard of halo or gta. but you mention mass effect and they dont even know what it is.

for example go into a MTV forum and ask who has heard of GTA vs Mass Effect.

Sleeper Hit imo.

HeHateMe_basic

[QUOTE="Socrates88"]The game is just as niche as Jade Empire, KOTOR, and all the other Bioware games. Don't be surprise it will sell just like the others. Why do people expect big big sales from this game is a surprise to me. WRPG are not popular...Danm_999

Eh? WRPGs sell well.

The Diablo franchise has sold 17 million.

Oblivion's sold about 3 million.

The WoW franchise is at like 10+ million (and yes, MMORPGs are a subgenre of WRPGs if their from the West).

Not to mention Bioware games themselves!

KOTOR sold over 1 million in the US alone, NeverWinter Nights hit 2 million, Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 sold 2 million a piece.

Anything over 1 million is a big success.

I totally disagree with that bolded statment in this time and age. If this was 10 years ago I would agree. As the consumer base gets larger so does the expectation of sales, hence I don't see 1 million sold as sucessful as 10 years ago.

I think it has gotten enough press with gammers but casuals may not know much about it. I think of it like this, If there are roughly 10 mil. 360's worldwide I think it will sell around 2 mil of that which is a success anyway you look at it. If the game is very good and word of mouth gets around to casuals and they start to play it you could see 3 mil or more. And that is not counting when it is released for PC.

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[QUOTE="Socrates88"]The game is just as niche as Jade Empire, KOTOR, and all the other Bioware games. Don't be surprise it will sell just like the others. Why do people expect big big sales from this game is a surprise to me. WRPG are not popular...Socrates88

Eh? WRPGs sell well.

The Diablo franchise has sold 17 million.

Oblivion's sold about 3 million.

The WoW franchise is at like 10+ million (and yes, MMORPGs are a subgenre of WRPGs if their from the West).

Not to mention Bioware games themselves!

KOTOR sold over 1 million in the US alone, NeverWinter Nights hit 2 million, Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 sold 2 million a piece.

Anything over 1 million is a big success.

I totally disagree with that bolded statment in this time and age. If this was 10 years ago I would agree. As the consumer base gets larger so does the expectation of sales, hence I don't see 1 million sold as sucessful as 10 years ago.

Well, some of those games (Diablo, NWN, Baldur's Gate) are from virtually that long ago. Plus, we're in flux at the moment, we're jumping generations, so numbers are going to be much, much lower.

As for the others, anything over 1 million at this stage in the generation is excellent. Think about it, with an install base of 120 million units, the highest selling PS2 games were only ever 12-10 million.