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#1 Shadow_op
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Now don't get me wrong. I am a Hermit/sheep/lemming (shlermit?) So i'm no crazed cow.

But...to me? Half Life and Counter Strike are overrated. Alot.

Counter Strike is so generic and full oif hackers, it's not even fun anymore compared to shooters like Crysis, Far Cry 2 and Halo 3. Of course, it is an older game, but it doesn't change the fact that it is being made into a god send for PC gamers. In every arguement about shooters, It's always Half-Life this or Counter Strike that. IMO, Unreal Tournament >>>>>>>>Counterstrike.

As for Half-Life? What new did Half Life two bring? Dumb enemies, as far as I'm concerned. Now I have to buy it again just to play Team Fortress 2? Please. A gravity gun? Done in other games so much, it's not even unique anymore. Weapons? Shotgun, Machine gun, pistol, and Crowbar. A little variety won't hury ya ;)

One more thing....the Valva Engine SUCKS. It's time for an Upgrade!Look at the Valve engine. Now look at the Unreal engine. Notice a difference? If there is a Half-Life 3, it better be on a new engine, other wise it has no chance against beauties like Crysis or Far Cry 2. Thanks for reading...just in case....FLAME SHIELD, ON!

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#2 themagicbum9720
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you're gonna piss off alot of hermits.
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#3 Shadow_op
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Ohh, it's inevitable, bum. But all I speak is the truth ;)
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Now don't get me wrong. I am a Hermit/sheep/lemming (shlermit?) So i'm no crazed cow.

But...to me? Half Life and Counter Strike are overrated. Alot.

Counter Strike is so generic and full oif hackers, it's not even fun anymore compared to shooters like Crysis, Far Cry 2 and Halo 3. Of course, it is an older game, but it doesn't change the fact that it is being made into a god send for PC gamers. In every arguement about shooters, It's always Half-Life this or Counter Strike that. IMO, Unreal Tournament >>>>>>>>Counterstrike.

As for Half-Life? What new did Half Life two bring? Dumb enemies, as far as I'm concerned. Now I have to buy it again just to play Team Fortress 2? Please. A gravity gun? Done in other games so much, it's not even unique anymore. Weapons? Shotgun, Machine gun, pistol, and Crowbar. A little variety won't hury ya ;)

One more thing....the Valva Engine SUCKS. It's time for an Upgrade!Look at the Valve engine. Now look at the Unreal engine. Notice a difference? If there is a Half-Life 3, it better be on a new engine, other wise it has no chance against beauties like Crysis or Far Cry 2. Thanks for reading...just in case....FLAME SHIELD, ON!

Shadow_op

Stopped reading right there. Seriously, those two aren't out yet, and you mention Halo in a "_____ is overrated" thread. Insta-fail right there. Besides, pretty much any game that has people sayingit's the best game ever made will have its fair share of people saying it's overrated.

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Now don't get me wrong. I am a Hermit/sheep/lemming (shlermit?) So i'm no crazed cow.

But...to me? Half Life and Counter Strike are overrated. Alot.

Counter Strike is so generic and full oif hackers, it's not even fun anymore compared to shooters like Crysis, Far Cry 2 and Halo 3. Of course, it is an older game, but it doesn't change the fact that it is being made into a god send for PC gamers. In every arguement about shooters, It's always Half-Life this or Counter Strike that. IMO, Unreal Tournament >>>>>>>>Counterstrike.

As for Half-Life? What new did Half Life two bring? Dumb enemies, as far as I'm concerned. Now I have to buy it again just to play Team Fortress 2? Please. A gravity gun? Done in other games so much, it's not even unique anymore. Weapons? Shotgun, Machine gun, pistol, and Crowbar. A little variety won't hury ya ;)

One more thing....the Valva Engine SUCKS. It's time for an Upgrade!Look at the Valve engine. Now look at the Unreal engine. Notice a difference? If there is a Half-Life 3, it better be on a new engine, other wise it has no chance against beauties like Crysis or Far Cry 2. Thanks for reading...just in case....FLAME SHIELD, ON!

Shadow_op

Because you've played those two games right?

Last time I checked the Counter Strike servers are still pretty active, its not fun anymore? Please try harder next time.

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Now I have to buy it again just to play Team Fortress 2?

Shadow_op

if you look at the Package details, you'll see that it could be bought separately, probably at launch.

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#7 bignice12
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While UT is one of my top games. CS is far from overrated. I'm not sure what the deal is with popular perception saying the game is overrun with hackers, while they are out there, if you go to a server that you like and has an admin in the problem can be solved very quickly. CS is just full of win it does a lot of stuff right, it is addicting, and just plain fun to play.

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#8 Sonic_on_crack
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HL no , CS yes

people compare that CS trash to games like Unreal 2k4, Halo and BF2

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#9 Hermitkermit
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What up Shadow, been awhile.....

And well you do make some good points, but all online games have some sort of hacks.....

Still I think Global Operations was the BEST online game I ever played!!!! IMO...

Could not afford to play Halo 2 or any game on XBL, however I did play counter strike, but yeah, it's very mod friendly and got kicked and headshoted, and had the words " PWNED" sprayed on me a couple of times......

Never played Unreal....however did play Tribes, I had fun....

Forgot to say something about Half Life, I loved that game, it is not overrated!!! If your talking about the sequel, then fine but the first was a master piece! I loved those scripted events!

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Ya btw TC have you played the Crysis MP beta? I am having a blast in it but CS will always have a place on my computer.
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#11 Velocitas8
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Half-Life?..nah.

Counter-Strike? I don't know about it being overrated..but I'm no fan of the game.

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#12 Legend_O_Dragon
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Halo is over rated. It full or 10 year olds and modders.

See what I did there?

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If you saying CSS and half-life 2 are over-rated then I would like to play game that is better. Because I havnt played it, and I played most FPS.
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Now don't get me wrong. I am a Hermit/sheep/lemming (shlermit?) So i'm no crazed cow.

But...to me? Half Life and Counter Strike are overrated. Alot.

Counter Strike is so generic and full oif hackers, it's not even fun anymore compared to shooters like Crysis, Far Cry 2 and Halo 3. Of course, it is an older game, but it doesn't change the fact that it is being made into a god send for PC gamers. In every arguement about shooters, It's always Half-Life this or Counter Strike that. IMO, Unreal Tournament >>>>>>>>Counterstrike.

As for Half-Life? What new did Half Life two bring? Dumb enemies, as far as I'm concerned. Now I have to buy it again just to play Team Fortress 2? Please. A gravity gun? Done in other games so much, it's not even unique anymore. Weapons? Shotgun, Machine gun, pistol, and Crowbar. A little variety won't hury ya ;)

One more thing....the Valva Engine SUCKS. It's time for an Upgrade!Look at the Valve engine. Now look at the Unreal engine. Notice a difference? If there is a Half-Life 3, it better be on a new engine, other wise it has no chance against beauties like Crysis or Far Cry 2. Thanks for reading...just in case....FLAME SHIELD, ON!

Shadow_op

If your not playing Counter-Strike competitvely, then you are not playing anything more than a spray fest. You hack you lose in competitive gaming.

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#15 TreyoftheDead
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Half-Life? No.

Counter Strike? Possibly. It honestly didn't live up to my hype.

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HL no , CS yes

people compare that CS trash to games like Unreal 2k4, Halo and BF2

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VAC servers are there for a reason.
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Half-Life 2 improved on the Half-Life formula by an impressive margin. Whereas Half-Life 1 had scripted sequences to progress the story, Half-Life 2 made a living, breathing world, taking it to the next level. >_>

And I haven'tseenany hackers and CS:S. >_>

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[QUOTE="Shadow_op"]

Now don't get me wrong. I am a Hermit/sheep/lemming (shlermit?) So i'm no crazed cow.

But...to me? Half Life and Counter Strike are overrated. Alot.

Counter Strike is so generic and full oif hackers, it's not even fun anymore compared to shooters like Crysis, Far Cry 2 and Halo 3. Of course, it is an older game, but it doesn't change the fact that it is being made into a god send for PC gamers. In every arguement about shooters, It's always Half-Life this or Counter Strike that. IMO, Unreal Tournament >>>>>>>>Counterstrike.

As for Half-Life? What new did Half Life two bring? Dumb enemies, as far as I'm concerned. Now I have to buy it again just to play Team Fortress 2? Please. A gravity gun? Done in other games so much, it's not even unique anymore. Weapons? Shotgun, Machine gun, pistol, and Crowbar. A little variety won't hury ya ;)

One more thing....the Valva Engine SUCKS. It's time for an Upgrade!Look at the Valve engine. Now look at the Unreal engine. Notice a difference? If there is a Half-Life 3, it better be on a new engine, other wise it has no chance against beauties like Crysis or Far Cry 2. Thanks for reading...just in case....FLAME SHIELD, ON!

Koalakommander

If your not playing Counter-Strike competitvely, then you are not playing anything more than a spray fest. You hack you lose in competitive gaming.

This young man speaks the truth.
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[QUOTE="Shadow_op"]

Now don't get me wrong. I am a Hermit/sheep/lemming (shlermit?) So i'm no crazed cow.

But...to me? Half Life and Counter Strike are overrated. Alot.

Counter Strike is so generic and full oif hackers, it's not even fun anymore compared to shooters like Crysis, Far Cry 2 and Halo 3. Of course, it is an older game, but it doesn't change the fact that it is being made into a god send for PC gamers. In every arguement about shooters, It's always Half-Life this or Counter Strike that. IMO, Unreal Tournament >>>>>>>>Counterstrike.

As for Half-Life? What new did Half Life two bring? Dumb enemies, as far as I'm concerned. Now I have to buy it again just to play Team Fortress 2? Please. A gravity gun? Done in other games so much, it's not even unique anymore. Weapons? Shotgun, Machine gun, pistol, and Crowbar. A little variety won't hury ya ;)

One more thing....the Valva Engine SUCKS. It's time for an Upgrade!Look at the Valve engine. Now look at the Unreal engine. Notice a difference? If there is a Half-Life 3, it better be on a new engine, other wise it has no chance against beauties like Crysis or Far Cry 2. Thanks for reading...just in case....FLAME SHIELD, ON!

Koalakommander

If your not playing Counter-Strike competitvely, then you are not playing anything more than a spray fest. You hack you lose in competitive gaming.

I'm interested in the "competitive" playing thing, but I'm only ever on the public servers. How could I get into the "competitive" stuff. >_>
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And I haven'tseenany hackers and CS:S. >_>PannicAtack
Didn't you know, every time a disgruntled adolescent gets OWNED a hacker gets his wings.
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#22 Sir-Marwin105
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[QUOTE="Koalakommander"][QUOTE="Shadow_op"]

Now don't get me wrong. I am a Hermit/sheep/lemming (shlermit?) So i'm no crazed cow.

But...to me? Half Life and Counter Strike are overrated. Alot.

Counter Strike is so generic and full oif hackers, it's not even fun anymore compared to shooters like Crysis, Far Cry 2 and Halo 3. Of course, it is an older game, but it doesn't change the fact that it is being made into a god send for PC gamers. In every arguement about shooters, It's always Half-Life this or Counter Strike that. IMO, Unreal Tournament >>>>>>>>Counterstrike.

As for Half-Life? What new did Half Life two bring? Dumb enemies, as far as I'm concerned. Now I have to buy it again just to play Team Fortress 2? Please. A gravity gun? Done in other games so much, it's not even unique anymore. Weapons? Shotgun, Machine gun, pistol, and Crowbar. A little variety won't hury ya ;)

One more thing....the Valva Engine SUCKS. It's time for an Upgrade!Look at the Valve engine. Now look at the Unreal engine. Notice a difference? If there is a Half-Life 3, it better be on a new engine, other wise it has no chance against beauties like Crysis or Far Cry 2. Thanks for reading...just in case....FLAME SHIELD, ON!

Legend_O_Dragon

If your not playing Counter-Strike competitvely, then you are not playing anything more than a spray fest. You hack you lose in competitive gaming.

This young man speaks the truth.

What if he is not young?o_0
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#23 Spartan070
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IMO, Unreal Tournament >>>>>>>>Counterstrike.

Shadow_op
AMEN!!!! CS imo is the most overrated shooter ever. Yes it's fair and balanced but beyond that it's just PC Shooter Exibit B.
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]I'm interested in the "competitive" playing thing, but I'm only ever on the public servers. How could I get into the "competitive" stuff. >_>PannicAtack
Start doing the pugs hosted on MIRC.
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Now don't get me wrong. I am a Hermit/sheep/lemming (shlermit?) So i'm no crazed cow.

But...to me? Half Life and Counter Strike are overrated. Alot.

Counter Strike is so generic and full oif hackers, it's not even fun anymore compared to shooters like Crysis, Far Cry 2 and Halo 3. Of course, it is an older game, but it doesn't change the fact that it is being made into a god send for PC gamers. In every arguement about shooters, It's always Half-Life this or Counter Strike that. IMO, Unreal Tournament >>>>>>>>Counterstrike.

As for Half-Life? What new did Half Life two bring? Dumb enemies, as far as I'm concerned. Now I have to buy it again just to play Team Fortress 2? Please. A gravity gun? Done in other games so much, it's not even unique anymore. Weapons? Shotgun, Machine gun, pistol, and Crowbar. A little variety won't hury ya ;)

One more thing....the Valva Engine SUCKS. It's time for an Upgrade!Look at the Valve engine. Now look at the Unreal engine. Notice a difference? If there is a Half-Life 3, it better be on a new engine, other wise it has no chance against beauties like Crysis or Far Cry 2. Thanks for reading...just in case....FLAME SHIELD, ON!

Shadow_op

You my friend have absolutely no clue WTF you are talking about. You say games that you haven't even played are better than Half Life. That alone killed all credibility this post could of had. I stopped reading once you said games that you haven't even played are better than HL.

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#26 l-_-l
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Ohh, it's inevitable, bum. But all I speak is the truth ;)Shadow_op
Nah it is opinion (and not a very good one either) and nothing more. ;)
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#27 TheDarkDisciple
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i've played Half-Life (mainly for TFC/CS) more than any other game since it came out in 1998, i don't think its overrated.
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You palyed Far Cry 2?
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Let's say... not really...
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]]I'm interested in the "competitive" playing thing, but I'm only ever on the public servers. How could I get into the "competitive" stuff. >_>Vandalvideo
Start doing the pugs hosted on MIRC.

Boy not understand such big words. >_>
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#31 FancyKetchup25
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Crysis isent even out yet, Half-Life and Counter strike are NOT overated.
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#32 NaiKoN9293
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Counter-Strike is the best online shooter ever. I think you're opinion is wrong.
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I'm interested in the "competitive" playing thing, but I'm only ever on the public servers. How could I get into the "competitive" stuff. >_>PannicAtack

I'm not familiar with the CS community, but the best place to start would be IRC. See if you can find a good group of experienced players to start doing organized PUGS with, and go from there.

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The same people that call CS overrated are the people that try to play for a minute and get pwned like no tommorow. Both HL2 and CS are probably in my top 5 PC games of all time, including Starcraft and WC3.
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]And I haven'tseenany hackers and CS:S. >_>Vandalvideo
Didn't you know, every time a disgruntled adolescent gets OWNED a hacker gets his wings.

Haha. That was pretty good :P

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Counter-Strike is the best online shooter ever. I think you're opinion is wrong.NaiKoN9293

Opinions can never be wrong unless their based off inaccurate info/experience.

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#37 Koalakommander
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[QUOTE="Koalakommander"][QUOTE="Shadow_op"]

Now don't get me wrong. I am a Hermit/sheep/lemming (shlermit?) So i'm no crazed cow.

But...to me? Half Life and Counter Strike are overrated. Alot.

Counter Strike is so generic and full oif hackers, it's not even fun anymore compared to shooters like Crysis, Far Cry 2 and Halo 3. Of course, it is an older game, but it doesn't change the fact that it is being made into a god send for PC gamers. In every arguement about shooters, It's always Half-Life this or Counter Strike that. IMO, Unreal Tournament >>>>>>>>Counterstrike.

As for Half-Life? What new did Half Life two bring? Dumb enemies, as far as I'm concerned. Now I have to buy it again just to play Team Fortress 2? Please. A gravity gun? Done in other games so much, it's not even unique anymore. Weapons? Shotgun, Machine gun, pistol, and Crowbar. A little variety won't hury ya ;)

One more thing....the Valva Engine SUCKS. It's time for an Upgrade!Look at the Valve engine. Now look at the Unreal engine. Notice a difference? If there is a Half-Life 3, it better be on a new engine, other wise it has no chance against beauties like Crysis or Far Cry 2. Thanks for reading...just in case....FLAME SHIELD, ON!

PannicAtack

If your not playing Counter-Strike competitvely, then you are not playing anything more than a spray fest. You hack you lose in competitive gaming.

I'm interested in the "competitive" playing thing, but I'm only ever on the public servers. How could I get into the "competitive" stuff. >_>

If you really are interested I could definately introduce you to it. PM me if you are. It is the next level of fun.

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[QUOTE="Koalakommander"][QUOTE="Shadow_op"]

Now don't get me wrong. I am a Hermit/sheep/lemming (shlermit?) So i'm no crazed cow.

But...to me? Half Life and Counter Strike are overrated. Alot.

Counter Strike is so generic and full oif hackers, it's not even fun anymore compared to shooters like Crysis, Far Cry 2 and Halo 3. Of course, it is an older game, but it doesn't change the fact that it is being made into a god send for PC gamers. In every arguement about shooters, It's always Half-Life this or Counter Strike that. IMO, Unreal Tournament >>>>>>>>Counterstrike.

As for Half-Life? What new did Half Life two bring? Dumb enemies, as far as I'm concerned. Now I have to buy it again just to play Team Fortress 2? Please. A gravity gun? Done in other games so much, it's not even unique anymore. Weapons? Shotgun, Machine gun, pistol, and Crowbar. A little variety won't hury ya ;)

One more thing....the Valva Engine SUCKS. It's time for an Upgrade!Look at the Valve engine. Now look at the Unreal engine. Notice a difference? If there is a Half-Life 3, it better be on a new engine, other wise it has no chance against beauties like Crysis or Far Cry 2. Thanks for reading...just in case....FLAME SHIELD, ON!

PannicAtack

If your not playing Counter-Strike competitvely, then you are not playing anything more than a spray fest. You hack you lose in competitive gaming.

I'm interested in the "competitive" playing thing, but I'm only ever on the public servers. How could I get into the "competitive" stuff. >_>

join a clan...thats pretty much it.

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#39 Elektrik-Blu
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Team Fortress 2 is better then Counter-Strike IMO
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#40 Arsenal325
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never say half life 2 is overrated..
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#41 dgsag
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Counter Strike is so generic and full oif hackers, it's not even fun anymore compared to shooters like Crysis, Far Cry 2 and Halo 3. Of course, it is an older game, but it doesn't change the fact that it is being made into a god send for PC gamers. In every arguement about shooters, It's always Half-Life this or Counter Strike that. IMO, Unreal Tournament >>>>>>>>Counterstrike.

Shadow_op

Tell that to the... oh... 130,000 people playing it right now... :roll:

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#42 Sir_Marwin
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*glove slaps* Never, say that again.... some guy probably turned in his grave just now :x

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#43 tomarlyn
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Hmmm, HL>CS>HL2 IMO

Actually I think HL2 is one of the most overated games ever and doesn't make my top 5 FPS's. Original, innovative, boring IMO.

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#44 dgsag
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Hmmm, HL>CS>HL2 IMO

Actually I think HL2 is one of the most overated games ever and doesn't make my top 5 FPS's. Original, innovative, boring IMO.

tomarlyn

Two of those were good traits. :|

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#45 Arsenal325
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[QUOTE="Shadow_op"]

Counter Strike is so generic and full oif hackers, it's not even fun anymore compared to shooters like Crysis, Far Cry 2 and Halo 3. Of course, it is an older game, but it doesn't change the fact that it is being made into a god send for PC gamers. In every arguement about shooters, It's always Half-Life this or Counter Strike that. IMO, Unreal Tournament >>>>>>>>Counterstrike.

dgsag

Tell that to the... oh... 130,000 people playing it right now... :roll:

i saw your sig... can i have you computer?

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#46 tomarlyn
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]

Hmmm, HL>CS>HL2 IMO

Actually I think HL2 is one of the most overated games ever and doesn't make my top 5 FPS's. Original, innovative, boring IMO.

dgsag

Two of those were good traits. :|

I know, and the combat let everything down IMO.

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#47 dgsag
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[QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="Shadow_op"]

Counter Strike is so generic and full oif hackers, it's not even fun anymore compared to shooters like Crysis, Far Cry 2 and Halo 3. Of course, it is an older game, but it doesn't change the fact that it is being made into a god send for PC gamers. In every arguement about shooters, It's always Half-Life this or Counter Strike that. IMO, Unreal Tournament >>>>>>>>Counterstrike.

Arsenal325

Tell that to the... oh... 130,000 people playing it right now... :roll:

i saw your sig... can i have you computer?

Sure, when I'm done with it. ;)

Expect it on your doorstep within the next 4 years. :D

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#48 mrxb0x360
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I can't stand UT. CS>UT
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#49 Navy_Sealz
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Counter Strike is so full oif hackers

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That makes me think you just suck at it.

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#50 Endfinal
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The only people that hate Counter Strike are people who suck at Counter Strike.