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i've been pondering this , it has happen to come to my attention that Cows use to think that S.E was above and beyond the messiah as a company, now that i've Seen FFXIII going to the 360, Cows simply turned there back on S.E Pretty funny i See more hype for WKC from level-5 than FFXIII Itself.

Lately ive seen Cows leaning towards Level-5 by sayng there the next to trump SE(Pleaselol), So Cows how do you feel SE leaving you guys in the durt?

Team_Microsoft

And that couldn't be because WKC actually has a release date?:roll:

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#52 abuabed
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I actually started hating SE when FFXII was released but I hope they do it alright with FFXIII & VS.
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#53 Team_Microsoft
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[QUOTE="Team_Microsoft"]

i've been pondering this , it has happen to come to my attention that Cows use to think that S.E was above and beyond the messiah as a company, now that i've Seen FFXIII going to the 360, Cows simply turned there back on S.E Pretty funny i See more hype for WKC from level-5 than FFXIII Itself.

Lately ive seen Cows leaning towards Level-5 by sayng there the next to trump SE(Pleaselol), So Cows how do you feel SE leaving you guys in the durt?

Floppy_Jim

And that couldn't be because WKC actually has a release date?:roll:

Outside of Japan it Dosen't
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Not a cow... but I get annoyed with much of what SE is doing. Not the multiplat stuff, but all the projects and remakes and such things. Sure they are great, but put more effort into FFXIII and get that out at a decent time. :evil:

Anyhow, loved FFXII and I don't know what it is, but Final Fantasy games do have a certain atmosphere to them that may come out of the artstyle but when I see it I know it will be something spectacular. To me anyways, so I can't wait for FFXIII.

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#55 SnakePS360Gamer
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="Team_Microsoft"]

i've been pondering this , it has happen to come to my attention that Cows use to think that S.E was above and beyond the messiah as a company, now that i've Seen FFXIII going to the 360, Cows simply turned there back on S.E Pretty funny i See more hype for WKC from level-5 than FFXIII Itself.

Lately ive seen Cows leaning towards Level-5 by sayng there the next to trump SE(Pleaselol), So Cows how do you feel SE leaving you guys in the durt?

Team_Microsoft

And that couldn't be because WKC actually has a release date?:roll:

Outside of Japan it Dosen't

but we know its coming before March 2009 in the US. As for SE, I don't care if it went multi, its taking forever to come out. All three of em
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#56 Jack-o-Thompson
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VSXIII is still exclusive, plus they have a few good psp exclusives coming out too. :D
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#57 mgs_freak91
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though personally i have never really cared about the final fantasy series, to all the cows out there it isnt that bad and to annoying fanboys like urself - square-enix still has versus EXCLUSIVE to the PS3. which to me looks better then just 13, and if i was actually going to get one i wud get that.
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#58 SnakePS360Gamer
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Also lems never cared about FFXIII until it went to the 360. Remember, I thought Mass Effect was the Final Fantasty killer lol
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#59 mgs_freak91
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Cow's are dismissing squarenix now because they have "betrayed" brand layalty and when multiplat :lol:Gh0st_Of_0nyx

you talk as though lemmings and sheep dont do the same. and hermits.

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#60 mgs_freak91
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[QUOTE="JIT93"][QUOTE="Team_Microsoft"][QUOTE="JIT93"][QUOTE="Team_Microsoft"][QUOTE="W1ckedGo0se"][QUOTE="Team_Microsoft"][QUOTE="Roushrsh"][QUOTE="Team_Microsoft"]

[QUOTE="Roushrsh"]FFV13 FTW?Team_Microsoft

So waht makes 100% it will sty exclusive to the PS3? and Don't give me the typical " Deveolper A is loyal to company B"

Because unlike FF13 where it said on Playstation 3

FFV13 said EXCLUSIVELY on playstation 3 worldwide in the new trailer

So Did FXIII:|

Why do you think Final Fantasy Versus 13 will come to the Xbox 360??? Two Totaly Different people developing Final FAntasy 13 and Final Fantasy Versus 13...

And...? what the heck does it have to do with it being Excluisvity Again?

Numera=Sony Fanboy=Not going to happen.

You know what Cows keep saying that Yet they have no proof to back it up That hates the 360, i think It's time Cows put a link or something when he directly Says he Dosen't like the 360:|

Why do you always assume that Sony Fanboys hate the 360 :|,

*Looks at Sig*

*looks at display name*:roll:

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#61 WilliamRLBaker
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Also lems never cared about FFXIII until it went to the 360. Remember, I thought Mass Effect was the Final Fantasty killer lolSnakePS360Gamer

and cows never cared about a few other games exclusive to the 360 that went multiplat.

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#62 SnakePS360Gamer
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[QUOTE="SnakePS360Gamer"]Also lems never cared about FFXIII until it went to the 360. Remember, I thought Mass Effect was the Final Fantasty killer lolWilliamRLBaker

and cows never cared about a few other games exclusive to the 360 that went multiplat.

Funny how that works, hypocrites
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#63 SnakePS360Gamer
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My take on Square-Enix. They make excellent games but I feel they're very overrated. Their games usually get revealed to early which causes me to lose hype, and i'm tired of all the remakes on the handhelds. I don't care if FFXIII and FFVXIII(if) go multi. I'll still get the PS3 versions.
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#64 Nightflash28
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Why should cows feel different about SE? They're still getting FF XIII, right?

What's the big deal?

You should've asked that question to Nintendo owners back when development for FF VII was shifted from the N64 to the PS. :P That was much more of a kick in the *****.

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#65 jtickner
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i've been pondering this , it has happen to come to my attention that Cows use to think that S.E was above and beyond the messiah as a company, now that i've Seen FFXIII going to the 360, Cows simply turned there back on S.E Pretty funny i See more hype for WKC from level-5 than FFXIII Itself.

Lately ive seen Cows leaning towards Level-5 by sayng there the next to trump SE(Pleaselol), So Cows how do you feel SE leaving you guys in the durt?

Team_Microsoft

How do I feel about Square-Enix now? Well exactly the same as I did beforehand. I want the SquareSoft quality put back into the FF franchise, now!

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#66 trasherhead
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I loved Square, allways hated Enix. So it was bittersweet when the joined and formed SE.
And they havn't released a good FF yet and its been allmost 6 years now. FFX was Square's last FF and it was great.
So for me SE turned its back on the fans a long time ago, but its still bittersweet to get a new FF. Because it might be great, maybe, but it will lack the platform focus. So we might not get the best product that they could have made if they focused on one platform.

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#67 Dahaka-UK
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Square Enix has sucked since adding EnixCloud_Insurance

Lol you know if you said that about 1 - 2 years ago, SE fans would of totally disagreed with you left right and center. But now.. It's become very apparent that the merger of Squaresoft and Enix was a bad idea from the start, total drop in quality in there games and they've just become milking machines releasing rehashes, ports, remakes. It's not even funny.

How do I feel about SE now? The same way really. FF13 looks amazing but I have this gut feeling it could turn out crappy like FFXII.

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#68 SapSacPrime
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Its not just one group with one game, if any game this gen goes multiplat it is suddenly not worth mentioning when the majority of the best games so far are multiplats :|.
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Actually FFXII attracted a lot of hate even before FFXIII was announced to be multi-platform, due to it's combat system and story. In fact FFX-2 wasn't well received either. People are not turning away from $quare Enix because they are releasing games for Xbox, they are turning away from $quare Enix because they are not happy with what $quare Enix are releasing.

I loved playing FFXII, but after playing Oblivion, I am beginning to see certain areas where $quare Enix are falling below standard. I am likely to be more critical of FFXIII than previous installments.

However, since $quare Enix has decided that it is perfectly acceptable for me to wait for this game to be ported to Xbox before releasing the European PS3 version, I will be waiting until a couple of months after release and picking up a second hand copy. $quare Enix do seem to be crapping on their PS3 fans, which is something that I'm not willing to buy into.

As for WKC, it is a good looking game that looks like it is not too far from release, of course it's beginning to attract more attention than a game that still might not be out before 2010 outside of Japan.

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#70 rogerjak
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Never cared about them at all.rockguy92
Same.
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FFXIII is going to be the best JRPG this generation, it going multiplat...wouldn't change thatKoalakommander
nice answer. Assuming it's good, everyone should at least get a chance to play it. ... ... Wii what?
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i've been pondering this , it has happen to come to my attention that Cows use to think that S.E was above and beyond the messiah as a company, now that i've Seen FFXIII going to the 360, Cows simply turned there back on S.E Pretty funny i See more hype for WKC from level-5 than FFXIII Itself.

Lately ive seen Cows leaning towards Level-5 by sayng there the next to trump SE(Pleaselol), So Cows how do you feel SE leaving you guys in the durt?

Team_Microsoft

i dont know ive never been in the durt

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i've been pondering this , it has happen to come to my attention that Cows use to think that S.E was above and beyond the messiah as a company, now that i've Seen FFXIII going to the 360, Cows simply turned there back on S.E Pretty funny i See more hype for WKC from level-5 than FFXIII Itself.

Lately ive seen Cows leaning towards Level-5 by sayng there the next to trump SE(Pleaselol), So Cows how do you feel SE leaving you guys in the durt?

Team_Microsoft

I dont know if you are an RPG fan, or just a fanboy trying to start a flame war, but L5 has been praised and called the sucessor of SE since Dragon Quest VIII. So I dont know what you where trying to imply. In any case, hype threads for Versus have increased, and XIII threads have decreased. WKC are appearing again because the game is less than 2 months to release in Japan, whereas FF XIII is set for 2010 and Versus for even later.

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[QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"]Square Enix has sucked since adding EnixDahaka-UK

Lol you know if you said that about 1 - 2 years ago, SE fans would of totally disagreed with you left right and center. But now.. It's become very apparent that the merger of Squaresoft and Enix was a bad idea from the start, total drop in quality in there games and they've just become milking machines releasing rehashes, ports, remakes. It's not even funny.

How do I feel about SE now? The same way really. FF13 looks amazing but I have this gut feeling it could turn out crappy like FFXII.

FFXII :(

Sooo much meh in that game.

It actually turned me off the genre for a while.....

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#75 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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In any case, hype threads for Versus have increased, and XIII threads have decreased.kenshinhimura10
That's because exclusive games always get more focus than multiplat. It's idiotic, but true.
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i've been pondering this , it has happen to come to my attention that Cows use to think that S.E was above and beyond the messiah as a company, now that i've Seen FFXIII going to the 360, Cows simply turned there back on S.E Pretty funny i See more hype for WKC from level-5 than FFXIII Itself.

Lately ive seen Cows leaning towards Level-5 by sayng there the next to trump SE(Pleaselol), So Cows how do you feel SE leaving you guys in the durt?

Team_Microsoft

Well losing FFXIII hurts here but honestly I've only ever beaten one Final Fantasy game and to be quite honest I find the gameplay to be so slow that it's somewhat painful to play through it. I'm not a big fan of the RPG.

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#77 darthogre
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you mean...$quare Enix.

btw, WKC is more hyped than any SE game because that is the only GAME coming to the PS3 in the next year more than likely. FF13......wont' be until 2010 now that X360 needs to be ported before the PS3 version is released. All the other RPG's MS has purchased basically (exclusive or timed).....Star Ocean 4, Last Rem, Infinite Un, ect...

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#78 DireToad
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Square Enix has sucked since adding EnixCloud_Insurance



I sort of agree with this.

Ever since FFIX it hasn't been the same.
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#79 -General_Ram-
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they care a lot. But they shouldnt.....as they are a 3rd party.
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[QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"]Square Enix has sucked since adding EnixDireToad



I sort of agree with this.

Ever since FFIX it hasn't been the same.

I definitely agree with it. They were better as competitors. FFIX was good, FFX was bad. Is that what you mean? Or are you saying 9 was bad as well? :x
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#81 DireToad
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[QUOTE="DireToad"][QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"]Square Enix has sucked since adding EnixJandurin



I sort of agree with this.

Ever since FFIX it hasn't been the same.

I definitely agree with it. They were better as competitors. FFIX was good, FFX was bad. Is that what you mean? Or are you saying 9 was bad as well? :x




I'm saying it started to be different with FFIX. I don't know it's just a feeling the games have been having ever since. With VI, VII and VII and even the ones before, it's like if the games were masterpieces without even trying.

And ever since IX it's like they've been trying too hard. Trying too hard to please fans, to try new things that don't always work or to take away things that worked before... And IX's strategy book... God... What an awful mess that was.
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And ever since IX it's like they've been trying too hard. Trying too hard to please fans, to try new things that don't always work or to take away things that worked before... And IX's strategy book... God... What an awful mess that was.DireToad
Agree with the top. What is a strategy book? You mean the strategy guide thingie? I never read the one for IX.
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#83 DireToad
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What is a strategy book? You mean the strategy guide thingie? I never read the one for IX.Jandurin



Basically every time you wanted to check out info in the guide, it told you to log on to this website where the actual info was located. There was litteraly no useful information in the strategy guide except for like main quest hints.
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#84 hayato_
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Why would they feel any different. Last time I heard I could still play Final Fantasy XIII on my PS3.

And Square-Enix is/has given more support to Sony then Microsoft/Nintendo. They have more games lined up for the PS products then for any other.

When Star Ocean: The Last Hope comes out you will probably see more and more love for the PS3 if thats what your talking about. They reveal some things probably. I think the way there handling it is that they want to help the 360 and sell their products on a worldwide scale. Same thing Capcom and Namco have been doing this gen. Square-Enix is just far behind lol.

ONe thing thats getting me is this whole THe Last Remannt issue. they say its developmetal issues, yet they praise the engine, say they didn't have any problems and what to work on the next UNreal Engine.:|

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#85 superjim42
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umm no.

i think all ps3/xbox360 fans are waiting for ff13 BUT WHY anticipate a game coming out in 2009/2010? when a game by Level 5 is coming out end of this year/beginning of next year for the ps3? a big jrpg in fact....

its called logic

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Basically every time you wanted to check out info in the guide, it told you to log on to this website where the actual info was located. There was litteraly no useful information in the strategy guide except for like main quest hints.DireToad
Lulz. Lame.
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umm no.

i think all ps3/xbox360 fans are waiting for ff13 BUT WHY anticipate a game coming out in 2009/2010? when a game by Level 5 is coming out end of this year/beginning of next year for the ps3? a big jrpg in fact....

its called logic

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I agree. This logic actually makes sense.

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didnt expect much from a lvl 2 user,with 37 posts and a user name "Team_Microsoft"
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SE really isn't that great when it comes to JRPGs. They were the best when PS1 was king but thats also whyen they were putting out multiple, major projects almost every year. Their games were still good in their PS2 era but they kind of sputtered out at the end and there were a large amount of widely unnoticed JRPGs that didn't score as high as they or went unplayed because they didn't have the SE name.

Can WKC be better than FFXIII? Hell yes. I can almost guarantee that SE will get a free pass on certain flaws in FFXIII though, so scoring is up in the air. It is my opinion that Atlus has been dominating the JRPG world for a few years though their efforts have gone very unnoticed. That's just me though.Tiefster

Yes! Some Atlus love.

Persona 3 ftw.

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You know if FFXIII ends up looking even slightly better on Xbox 360, lemmings are going to claim so much ownage. :roll:
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You know if FFXIII ends up looking even slightly better on Xbox 360, lemmings are going to claim so much ownage. :roll:JunkTrap
Eh. Ignore them if they do. I just want a good game.
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You know if FFXIII ends up looking even slightly better on Xbox 360, lemmings are going to claim so much ownage. :roll:JunkTrap

Just shove in their face a shiny new blu ray disc compared to their multi disc switching.

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[QUOTE="JunkTrap"]You know if FFXIII ends up looking even slightly better on Xbox 360, lemmings are going to claim so much ownage. :roll:siLVURcross

Just shove in their face a shiny new blu ray disc compared to their multi disc switching.

:roll: Because the install on that game will be non-existent. Each platform has its advantages and disadvantages.
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#94 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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honestly ill still love square no matter what they do, so what if FFXIII is multi plat, dsnt mean i cant play it ne more... lol, and i personally cant wait for FFXIII VERSUS, bcz its going to play like Kingdom Hearts, BUT its the 1st Final Fantasy to be 18+, so its not kiddy (but hey kingdom hearts is still awsome :P)....

now if they remake FFVII, and announce KH3, ill be set...

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#95 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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You know if FFXIII ends up looking even slightly better on Xbox 360, lemmings are going to claim so much ownage. :roll:JunkTrap
Im no lemmings and I hate FF but I will probably be one of those people claming ownage :P
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#96 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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[QUOTE="JunkTrap"]You know if FFXIII ends up looking even slightly better on Xbox 360, lemmings are going to claim so much ownage. :roll:Gh0st_Of_0nyx
Im no lemmings and I hate FF but I will probably be one of those people claming ownage :P

u just love to troll so yea i could see that :P, also how can u hate FF? lol
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#97 BobRea
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And how do you feel? Sounding all knowing and mighty with your bolded font and your cocky attitude that things are going smoothly for your 360?

Okay so FF13 goes multiplat, people get upset, it's time to move on. Christ.

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#98 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]

And how do you feel? Sounding all knowing and mighty with your bolded font and your cocky attitude that things are going smoothly for your 360?

Okay so FF13 goes multiplat, people get upset, it's time to move on. Christ.

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#99 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="JunkTrap"]You know if FFXIII ends up looking even slightly better on Xbox 360, lemmings are going to claim so much ownage. :roll:zomgwtfbbqlol1
Im no lemmings and I hate FF but I will probably be one of those people claming ownage :P

u just love to troll so yea i could see that :P, also how can u hate FF? lol

Because it repetitive and linear just like most JRPG's ive played.

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#100 zomgwtfbbqlol1
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[QUOTE="zomgwtfbbqlol1"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="JunkTrap"]You know if FFXIII ends up looking even slightly better on Xbox 360, lemmings are going to claim so much ownage. :roll:Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Im no lemmings and I hate FF but I will probably be one of those people claming ownage :P

u just love to troll so yea i could see that :P, also how can u hate FF? lol

Because it repetitive and linear just like most JRPG's ive played.

not really that linear maybe in the older FF, but not FFXII, or FFXI (if u count that), but id assume this gen they can do a lot more, and repetative? no, also "most" JRPGs are just rip-offs of FF