Crackdown 2 = Low Budget, Like most MS games.

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]mag struggles to have 10 players too... it just that the struggle is to get 10 to play it at the same time.

TheMightyHoov

Its called a joke

:P

[QUOTE="TheMightyHoov"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]Ok, this post just clarify that you have absolutely no ides of what you're talking about.

ermacness

Its called a joke

:P

Lol

This is true. I cant blame you for taking him seriously

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="TheMightyHoov"]

Its called a joke

:P

TheMightyHoov

Lol

This is true. I cant blame you for taking him seriously

ok i don't really think there is only 10 ppl playing mag. there is prolly at least 40 or 50. :P

the funny thing about mag is when ppl were screaming in sw everyday how it was going to revolutionize online shooters i was going hey name one of the dozen or so pc titles that was doing this 5 years ago and all you heard was crickets chirping in the background.

cool concept that just does not translate well to actual product.

anyway as far as the topic is concerned so what? do you really not expectcompanies to do whatever it takes to be more profitable?

maybe if we change the word profit to metagame or something gamers will undestand the concept better.

Maybe they do push the 360?

Pug-Nasty

[QUOTE="TehNubTuber"]

If you want bleeding edge industry leading games, you own a gaming PC, otherwise your doing it wrong.

clone01

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="TehNubTuber"]

If you want bleeding edge industry leading games, you own a gaming PC, otherwise your doing it wrong.

T-Aldous

[QUOTE="T-Aldous"][QUOTE="clone01"] fixed it for you.TehNubTuber

Since there are a few PC games that are also on 360 (or vice versa) wouldn't a 360 be next? ;)

Is this really what a big budget title looks like? Really? I mean really?

Is this really what a big budget title looks like? Really? I mean really?

GreyFoXX4

For an open world game, I think it looks pretty good. I kinda dig the cell-shaded look.

[QUOTE="TehNubTuber"][QUOTE="T-Aldous"]You beat me to it, I was going to do that too...lolT-Aldous

Is this really what a big budget title looks like? Really? I mean really?

GreyFoXX4

[QUOTE="T-Aldous"][QUOTE="TehNubTuber"] I mentioned the PC too in my post, but if for whatever reason you can't get a PC, the PS3 is next in line :)GreyFoXX4

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

Is this really what a big budget title looks like? Really? I mean really?

jg4xchamp

Why is it that most MS funded games don't push the 360 to the limit, Fable 2, Alan Wake, Halo 3 + ODST and now Crackdown 2, the graphics are terrible and it plays the exact same way as the 1st game but is solid none the less. ODST had little improvements over 3, Fable 3 looks the same as Fable 2, Alan Wake was a great game but didn't push the 360 nearly as much as it could have, now Crackdown 2 plays and looks the same as the 1st. Microsoft just rush these games out for a quick buck, there's no innovation.

Clank-PS-Snake

[QUOTE="Clank-PS-Snake"]

Why is it that most MS funded games don't push the 360 to the limit, Fable 2, Alan Wake, Halo 3 + ODST and now Crackdown 2, the graphics are terrible and it plays the exact same way as the 1st game but is solid none the less. ODST had little improvements over 3, Fable 3 looks the same as Fable 2, Alan Wake was a great game but didn't push the 360 nearly as much as it could have, now Crackdown 2 plays and looks the same as the 1st. Microsoft just rush these games out for a quick buck, there's no innovation.

Ravensmash

Why is it that the guys with MGS4 avatars are always fanboys? :P

I'm just kidding, moderators and TC. But yeah, I thought Alan Wake looked good.

SgtKevali

Why is it that most MS funded games don't push the 360 to the limit, Fable 2, Alan Wake, Halo 3 + ODST and now Crackdown 2, the graphics are terrible and it plays the exact same way as the 1st game but is solid none the less. ODST had little improvements over 3, Fable 3 looks the same as Fable 2, Alan Wake was a great game but didn't push the 360 nearly as much as it could have, now Crackdown 2 plays and looks the same as the 1st. Microsoft just rush these games out for a quick buck, there's no innovation.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

Is this really what a big budget title looks like? Really? I mean really?

GreyFoXX4

When i entered this thread i was a bit confused when I saw "Halo 3" as one of the games. I decided to look at TC's posting history and quite honestly I'm dissapointed. Although TC's record leans towards the PS3, he could of made valid reasons for his arguement. And I'm sure there are some good reasons to back his statement up. But when you include Halo 3 as "low budget", I knew this wasnt thought out.

DroidPhysX

Why is it that most MS funded games don't push the 360 to the limit, Fable 2, Alan Wake, Halo 3 + ODST and now Crackdown 2, the graphics are terrible and it plays the exact same way as the 1st game but is solid none the less. ODST had little improvements over 3, Fable 3 looks the same as Fable 2, Alan Wake was a great game but didn't push the 360 nearly as much as it could have, now Crackdown 2 plays and looks the same as the 1st. Microsoft just rush these games out for a quick buck, there's no innovation.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"]

Is this really what a big budget title looks like? Really? I mean really?

GreyFoXX4

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

When i entered this thread i was a bit confused when I saw "Halo 3" as one of the games. I decided to look at TC's posting history and quite honestly I'm dissapointed. Although TC's record leans towards the PS3, he could of made valid reasons for his arguement. And I'm sure there are some good reasons to back his statement up. But when you include Halo 3 as "low budget", I knew this wasnt thought out.

Clank-PS-Snake

fable, halo, gears, forza aren't low budget

so how is that most??

Since when did I base this just on graphics, I said it played the same aswell, which is even more annoying. Clank-PS-Snake

i can't wait for the next xbox to come out before the next playstation so graphics go back to being unimportant and the last thing anyone should consider when getting a game.

fable, halo, gears, forza aren't low budget

so how is that most??

munchlax99

[QUOTE="Clank-PS-Snake"]Since when did I base this just on graphics, I said it played the same aswell, which is even more annoying. jg4xchamp

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

When i entered this thread i was a bit confused when I saw "Halo 3" as one of the games. I decided to look at TC's posting history and quite honestly I'm dissapointed. Although TC's record leans towards the PS3, he could of made valid reasons for his arguement. And I'm sure there are some good reasons to back his statement up. But when you include Halo 3 as "low budget", I knew this wasnt thought out.

Clank-PS-Snake

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] I'm sorry, but you had me at no innovation :P PS3 FPS's WISH they could be as feature filled as Halo 3/Reach. And this is a pretty silly criticism, sounds like nitpicking tbh.Ravensmash

[QUOTE="munchlax99"]

fable, halo, gears, forza aren't low budget

so how is that most??

Clank-PS-Snake

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

[QUOTE="Clank-PS-Snake"]Since when did I base this just on graphics, I said it played the same aswell, which is even more annoying. Ravensmash

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"] 360 has been out for what 5 or 6 years now, and you still only list one game when talking about features? See this is the whole issue.GreyFoXX4

i can't wait for the next xbox to come out before the next playstation so graphics go back to being unimportant and the last thing anyone should consider when getting a game.

Riverwolf007

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

i can't wait for the next xbox to come out before the next playstation so graphics go back to being unimportant and the last thing anyone should consider when getting a game.

jg4xchamp

Also, there is more to a game than just the graphics that show high budge even without having a high budget. Such as animations, transistion from cinematic, story, just overall polish, immersive enviroment, sound, voice acting, lip sync with voice acting, player movement. just overall detail. And so on.

And who ever think Gears is high budge, is crazy. Animations have been bad, glitch galore, transistions bad, story missing parts, what the heck was that tool that just appeared to cut open doors kind of thing lol.

halo 3 had a bigger budget than every ps3 exclusive except MGS4 and GT5.... 55 million, you do realize that graphics=/= AAA scores with high sales and immediate dedicated fanbase right? now if you pay attention to CD1 to 2 you will realize that it still has the differed shading system, it removed the layer of realistic texture on everything in order to add a foliage system, they improved thier water tech, improved thier engine's ability to render draw ditances, implemented a crowd system so that 100's of freaks can be put on the screen, added 4 player co op with no tethering (meaning any 4 players could be any place in the city at any time) improved thier physics, and particles system(thats why there are a lot of explosions) and cleaned up the rough edges of the graphics. Theydidn't focous on graphics, they refined them. instead they wanted to give the game more structure and as much crazy fun as possible. mayceV

Also, there is more to a game than just the graphics that show high budge even without having a high budget. Such as animations, transistion from cinematic, story, just overall polish, immersive enviroment, sound, voice acting, lip sync with voice acting, player movement. just overall detail. And so on.

And who ever think Gears is high budge, is crazy. Animations have been bad, glitch galore, transistions bad, story missing parts, what the heck was that tool that just appeared to cut open doors kind of thing lol.

GreyFoXX4

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] I'm sorry, but you had me at no innovation :P PS3 FPS's WISH they could be as feature filled as Halo 3/Reach. And this is a pretty silly criticism, sounds like nitpicking tbh.Ravensmash

Ya, really. If he likes his console so much, why does he feel the need to bash another console to make himself feel better. It's always the most insecure fanboys that insult and try to degrade other games/consoles the most.

[QUOTE="mayceV"]halo 3 had a bigger budget than every ps3 exclusive except MGS4 and GT5.... 55 million, you do realize that graphics=/= AAA scores with high sales and immediate dedicated fanbase right? now if you pay attention to CD1 to 2 you will realize that it still has the differed shading system, it removed the layer of realistic texture on everything in order to add a foliage system, they improved thier water tech, improved thier engine's ability to render draw ditances, implemented a crowd system so that 100's of freaks can be put on the screen, added 4 player co op with no tethering (meaning any 4 players could be any place in the city at any time) improved thier physics, and particles system(thats why there are a lot of explosions) and cleaned up the rough edges of the graphics. Theydidn't focous on graphics, they refined them. instead they wanted to give the game more structure and as much crazy fun as possible. GreyFoXX4

"The Halo franchise has been so successful for Bungie and Microsoft that they virtually had an unlimited budget on Halo 3, as it had to be the best and most impressive game in almost all aspects when it was released. It pretty much was, at a price of $55 million, which excludes over $200 million Microsoft spent promoting the game."

fable, halo, gears, forza aren't low budget

so how is that most??

munchlax99

[QUOTE="munchlax99"]

fable, halo, gears, forza aren't low budget

so how is that most??

TehNubTuber

Yet it scored a 9, crazy.

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"][QUOTE="mayceV"]halo 3 had a bigger budget than every ps3 exclusive except MGS4 and GT5.... 55 million, you do realize that graphics=/= AAA scores with high sales and immediate dedicated fanbase right? now if you pay attention to CD1 to 2 you will realize that it still has the differed shading system, it removed the layer of realistic texture on everything in order to add a foliage system, they improved thier water tech, improved thier engine's ability to render draw ditances, implemented a crowd system so that 100's of freaks can be put on the screen, added 4 player co op with no tethering (meaning any 4 players could be any place in the city at any time) improved thier physics, and particles system(thats why there are a lot of explosions) and cleaned up the rough edges of the graphics. Theydidn't focous on graphics, they refined them. instead they wanted to give the game more structure and as much crazy fun as possible. jg4xchamp

"The Halo franchise has been so successful for Bungie and Microsoft that they virtually had an unlimited budget on Halo 3, as it had to be the best and most impressive game in almost all aspects when it was released. It pretty much was, at a price of $55 million, which excludes over $200 million Microsoft spent promoting the game."

[QUOTE="munchlax99"]

fable, halo, gears, forza aren't low budget

so how is that most??

TehNubTuber

cause graphics indicate budget yup....thats bright lol.R&D costs go into areas other than graphics lol.

Also, there is more to a game than just the graphics that show high budge even without having a high budget. Such as animations, transistion from cinematic, story, just overall polish, immersive enviroment, sound, voice acting, lip sync with voice acting, player movement. just overall detail. And so on.

And who ever think Gears is high budge, is crazy. Animations have been bad, glitch galore, transistions bad,story missing parts, what the heck was that tool that just appeared to cut open doors kind of thing lol.

GreyFoXX4