Criticize your favorite games

In SW we get a lot of chances to promote our favorite games. And generally, if they're our favorites, we're defending them from criticism. But for fun - what about criticism you have of your favorite games? Be sure to include at least one example from this generation to keep it relevant. Try to pick favorites from every generation if you can. More points if you can point out some unique views or lesser publicized flaws.

PS1 era

Xenogears. What an amazing game. Aside from the Disc 2 issues that I'm sure everyone knows about. But more than that, something that bothers me is the connections to the modern day Israel conflict. There are obvious allusions made, but the way the game features them is trite and doesn't really do justice to the reality at hand.

PS2 era

Xenosaga is another game I promote in here, so I figure it'd be best for me to focus on. The game is well known for having religious connections, and while some of the ideas are indeed interesting ... the real world connections to the actual Christian relgion detract from the game and make the game seem silly. Giant mystical machines being constructed in ... biblical times? One of the biggest reveals from the game shows that a character is actually the soul of an ancient person. I wont disclose the information, but it's pretty disappointingly silly given the build up.

Wii era

Not too many games stand out for me this gen, like last gen. But I suppose I enjoyed Valkyria Chronicles the most. The only problem is the story is just not very good and like the previously listed games, it's real world connections to World War 2 are trite and oversimplifications of important realities.

I like Vanquish and the one fault that I think it has is that it all ends too soon. That's all. :P

KOTOR - i wish the sequel dint suck

Spyro: Too much collecting things in random places

FFX: Random battles can be annoying. weird VA in some spots.

MGS4: Hard to understand if you haven't played previous entries

Half Life 2: Vehicle sequences could be meh. I hate Antlions

Zelda: Ocarina of Time: Uhhh.....water temple maybe?

Far cry 2 has too many to list.....

5th Gen, Alundra (PSX)- A fantastic Action RPG and probably the best Zelda clone out there but some of the puzzles and reflex platforming obstacles are too much. Many will agree a great amount of patience and practice is needed for half the obstacles and alot of restraint from running to a walkthrough is needed for quite a few puzzles. The perspective of the game doesnt help alot either. Frustration sets in quick with this one.

6th Gen, Ys (III) Oath in Felghana (PC)- As far as action RPGs go Id say this is about as good as it gets, everything in the game is simply fantastic, I never wanted it to end. But it did...... in only a few hours. Its a remake of a rather meh game and while everything is redone incredibly well the only thing that hasnt been improved is the length. The game was over in around 7-9 hours 15 years ago and the remake is no different. Dissapointing, especially for a RPG.

7th Gen, Xenoblade (Wii)- Ill keep this one short and say the character face models were a joke compared to the rest of the great visuals of the game, almost 40 hours of the game consists of you simply running around the enviorments and the story, while amazing is still plagued with some common JRPG cliches that really couldve been avoided.

Valkyria Chronicles - not much of a fan of chapter 10, and it can get a little too complicated some times funsohng

What chapter was that?? Can't remember TBH.

As for me... well, the thing about my fav games is that I don't have anything to critize about them, so I'll just post random **** about this gen.

RDR - shooting gets akward while riding horses/wagons

NBA Jam Wii - playing it for too long gives me the carpal tunnel syndrome

GoW3 - endign sucked

Tekken 6+SCIV - everytime I tried to play online matches, in was unplayable on my end due some awful lag.

TWEWY: It ends :cry:soulitane

Yeah I know... the ending sucks big time.

[spoiler] :P [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="soulitane"]TWEWY: It ends :cry:GreenGoblin2099

Yeah I know... the ending sucks big time.

I've been playing the Wii over the past two weeks, so I'll comment on Mario Kart Wii: I hate the lack of race options. Smash Bros had tons of options. Why not Mario Kart? I simply want to choose how many CPU racers are going to be in a race. However, Mario Kart Wii has an all-or-nothing approach. Either I play with 10+ CPU racers, or I play with none. Oh, and battle mode absolutely sucks.Mrmccormo

My only complain with MKW is that it's motion control only... would've totally loved it with normal controls

[QUOTE="Mrmccormo"]I've been playing the Wii over the past two weeks, so I'll comment on Mario Kart Wii: I hate the lack of race options. Smash Bros had tons of options. Why not Mario Kart? I simply want to choose how many CPU racers are going to be in a race. However, Mario Kart Wii has an all-or-nothing approach. Either I play with 10+ CPU racers, or I play with none. Oh, and battle mode absolutely sucks.GreenGoblin2099

My only complain with MKW is that it's motion control only... would've totally loved it with normal controls

Theres a classic controller option. No motion control used with it at all, total normality.

I prefer it myself.

[QUOTE="Mrmccormo"]I've been playing the Wii over the past two weeks, so I'll comment on Mario Kart Wii: I hate the lack of race options. Smash Bros had tons of options. Why not Mario Kart? I simply want to choose how many CPU racers are going to be in a race. However, Mario Kart Wii has an all-or-nothing approach. Either I play with 10+ CPU racers, or I play with none. Oh, and battle mode absolutely sucks.GreenGoblin2099

My only complain with MKW is that it's motion control only... would've totally loved it with normal controls

........wut?

You can totally play Mario Kart Wii with regular controls......... Wow.

[QUOTE="Mrmccormo"]I've been playing the Wii over the past two weeks, so I'll comment on Mario Kart Wii: I hate the lack of race options. Smash Bros had tons of options. Why not Mario Kart? I simply want to choose how many CPU racers are going to be in a race. However, Mario Kart Wii has an all-or-nothing approach. Either I play with 10+ CPU racers, or I play with none. Oh, and battle mode absolutely sucks.GreenGoblin2099

My only complain with MKW is that it's motion control only... would've totally loved it with normal controls

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="Mrmccormo"]I've been playing the Wii over the past two weeks, so I'll comment on Mario Kart Wii: I hate the lack of race options. Smash Bros had tons of options. Why not Mario Kart? I simply want to choose how many CPU racers are going to be in a race. However, Mario Kart Wii has an all-or-nothing approach. Either I play with 10+ CPU racers, or I play with none. Oh, and battle mode absolutely sucks.Shirokishi_

My only complain with MKW is that it's motion control only... would've totally loved it with normal controls

Theres a classic controller option. No motion control used with it at all, total normality.

I prefer it myself.

Seriously?? Well it must be because my friends don't have the classic controller add on and I'm stuck with just the wiimote :x

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="Mrmccormo"]I've been playing the Wii over the past two weeks, so I'll comment on Mario Kart Wii: I hate the lack of race options. Smash Bros had tons of options. Why not Mario Kart? I simply want to choose how many CPU racers are going to be in a race. However, Mario Kart Wii has an all-or-nothing approach. Either I play with 10+ CPU racers, or I play with none. Oh, and battle mode absolutely sucks.Mrmccormo

My only complain with MKW is that it's motion control only... would've totally loved it with normal controls

The recent zelda game, twilight princess I found it too easy. I intencianally avoided the heart pieces since you take like no damage even from bosses, the only fight that really game me a challenge was in the cave in the last levels, especially where you fight a crap load of dark nuts.

[QUOTE="Mrmccormo"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

My only complain with MKW is that it's motion control only... would've totally loved it with normal controls

Deadbeatcobra

I have... I don't own the wii and my friends are somewhat casuals. When I played it for the first time I asked about normal controls and they told me that was it, just motion controls, so I just rolled with it.

They don't have the classic controller add on if that makes any difference.

[QUOTE="Mrmccormo"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

My only complain with MKW is that it's motion control only... would've totally loved it with normal controls

Deadbeatcobra

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

My only complain with MKW is that it's motion control only... would've totally loved it with normal controls

GreenGoblin2099

Theres a classic controller option. No motion control used with it at all, total normality.

I prefer it myself.

Seriously?? Well it must be because my friends don't have the classic controller add on and I'm stuck with just the wiimote :x

You can use a GCN controller too if you have one of those left from the previous gen. Or you can opt to use the Wii-remote/Nunchuk combo as opposed to motion controls.

[QUOTE="Mrmccormo"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

My only complain with MKW is that it's motion control only... would've totally loved it with normal controls

The recent zelda game, twilight princess I found it too easy. I intencianally avoided the heart pieces since you take like no damage even from bosses, the only fight that really game me a challenge was in the cave in the last levels, especially where you fight a crap load of dark nuts.

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="Mrmccormo"]I've been playing the Wii over the past two weeks, so I'll comment on Mario Kart Wii: I hate the lack of race options. Smash Bros had tons of options. Why not Mario Kart? I simply want to choose how many CPU racers are going to be in a race. However, Mario Kart Wii has an all-or-nothing approach. Either I play with 10+ CPU racers, or I play with none. Oh, and battle mode absolutely sucks.Shirokishi_

My only complain with MKW is that it's motion control only... would've totally loved it with normal controls

Theres a classic controller option. No motion control used with it at all, total normality.

I prefer it myself.

Batman: AA-Detective vision really wasn't utilized to its fullest potential, and the boss fights were weak.

Forza III-Not many tracks, and got repetitive after a while.

Fallout 2-A.I. NPCs are moronic and make combat very frustrating sometimes.

Company of Heroes, Super Metroid-They ended.

Dungeon Keeper 2 - campaign is too short

Metal Gear Solid 4 - sometimes enemies are a bit too dumb (like when they call HQ for help and they dont even move, you can easily walk to them and stun them with stu knife)

Demons Souls - you cant team up with your friend, sometimes it takes too long before someone summons you...

Heavy Rain - I dont buy the point of who is the murderer

Master of Orion 2: Battle at Antares - you cant set up hard difficulty with standard races (CPU always customizes its race on hard), you cant choose which races will be against you (in other words - ban the goddamn psilons) :)

Army of Two: The 40th Day - its a bit repetetive, not enough memorable moments

Battlezone 2 : Combat Commander - well this one is pretty much flawless

Team Fortress 2. You should stop gain fat (hats, useless weapons, community maps nobody plays on), and grow some muscle instead (new interesting gametypes, bigger advanced maps). The damn game should evolve.

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. You look like crap when unmodded. But even when modded, models and animations are literally from 2002!

Dungeon Keeper 2 - campaign is too short

Metal Gear Solid 4 - sometimes enemies are a bit too dumb (like when they call HQ for help and they dont even move, you can easily walk to them and stun them with stu knife)

Demons Souls - you cant team up with your friend, sometimes it takes too long before someone summons you...

Heavy Rain - I dont buy the point of who is the murderer

Master of Orion 2: Battle at Antares - you cant set up hard difficulty with standard races (CPU always customizes its race on hard), you cant choose which races will be against you (in other words - ban the goddamn psilons) :)

Army of Two: The 40th Day - its a bit repetetive, not enough memorable moments

Battlezone 2 : Combat Commander - well this one is pretty much flawless

Sorry, but UT2k4 is perfect :P

Assassin's Creed II- Combat can be a bit slow.

inFamous- Textures aren't too pretty

Crysis- AI can be dumb at times

LBP- The camera sometimes fails to frame all the action.

I guess my Xenosaga complaint could be framed with the rumor that the creative change in direction the series took was based around making it "easier to understand," highlighting the sillier side of the story and leaving out explanations of the more interesting concepts at play - for example, the domain existing in "imaginary numbers."

I guess my Xenosaga complaint could be framed with the rumor that the creative change in direction the series took was based around making it "easier to understand," highlighting the sillier side of the story and leaving out explanations of the more interesting concepts at play - for example, the domain existing in "imaginary numbers."

hakanakumono

U2: its too perfect...

TF2: not enough hats

CS: Why you no let me get kills?

Xenogears

• I hated those repetitive random encounters, my heart would stop for a fraction of a second every time it happened because it pissed me off bad. Still gave it a 10 though(only gave like two games a 10 in my entire life), those repetitive encounters are a minuscule thing compared to the praise worthy 'everything' the game had.

Gothic 2

• Sometimes TO damn hard and tedious, and i love hard & challenging games. Finished it 2 times though, love it. But damn, have mercy on me!!!!

Got no complaint for the rest of my favorite games.. they are pretty much perfection.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

I guess my Xenosaga complaint could be framed with the rumor that the creative change in direction the series took was based around making it "easier to understand," highlighting the sillier side of the story and leaving out explanations of the more interesting concepts at play - for example, the domain existing in "imaginary numbers."

hippiesanta

It actually went from anime to anime-inspired "realism" and then back to anime. The 2nd game underwent a change in design philosophy and Monolith thought that they were less successful than FFX (they hoped to beat it) becacuse they lacked the "realism" that they presumed was in vogue. But this was met with backlash so they changed it back. Ultimately, I think certain characters looked better in certain games. Rubedo looks especially good in II for example, while Shion looks ridiculous in II.

Xenogears

• I hated those repetitive random encounters, my heart would stop for a fraction of a second every time it happened because it pissed me off bad. Still gave it a 10 though(only gave like two games a 10 in my entire life), those repetitive encounters are a minuscule thing compared to the praise worthy 'everything' the game had.

Gothic 2

• Sometimes TO damn hard and tedious, and i love hard & challenging games. Finished it 2 times though, love it. But damn, have mercy on me!!!!

Got no complaint for the rest of my favorite games.. they are pretty much perfection.

Lucianu

Speaking of encounters, the method of learning skills was pretty bad if you think about it. Unless you had a guide, it would be difficult to learn some of the more complicated combinations.

World of Warcraft - Blizzard killed off the 'magic'. With each major patch, some vanilla feature was being removed in place for a more streamlined feature. Cross realm battlegrounds, cross realm dungeons etc. Community died as a result, among many other things. Finally, Cataclysm literally destroyed the world I had loved for something like 5 years. Now you can stand in a city spamming/trolling trade chat while in queue for a dungeon with a bunch of randoms you'll never see again & progress gear wise. You can do this from about level 15 or so, never having to leave the city except when being ported to dungeons.

You used to have to explore, form friendships to get regular groups going, even guilds, & actually physically travel to dungeons. Now the game is more like a server lobby & you just get in the matchmaking queue, play through a dungeon where the only memorable moments will be from someone stuffing up or trolling because no one cares, they'll never meet the group again. It used to be a living, persistent world where the people on the server were the worlds residents. Now you don't even need to talk/interact with people on your server at all to get good gear. Yep, the game I'll always regard as the greatest game ever made has been long dead & buried.

Sometimes the AI in Valkyria Chronicles is LOL worthy. Oh, you won't destroy my tank that's sitting in the middle of the field? Thanks!

Sometimes the AI in Valkyria Chronicles is LOL worthy. Oh, you won't destroy my tank that's sitting in the middle of the field? Thanks!

yokofox33

Towards the end of the game though I felt it was so challenging that I really had to capitalize on the game's flaws in order to win. Then again maybe I just suck. ^^;

KOTOR - i wish the sequel dint suck

sinpkr

That's exactly what I was gonna say lol

[QUOTE="Not-A-Stalker"][QUOTE="EddieTheHead84"] The whole story of Heavy Rain is ridiculous due to the huge gaping plot hole.EddieTheHead84

SPOILERS continued

It doesn't really show everything that the characters are thinking. Rather, it reveals how much of what he did was covering up the evidence. But there are huge plotholes, for example the father's blackouts ... finding the origami in his hand. These things don't make sense when he's not the killer. It's stupid to betray the integrity of a story for the sake of shocking plot developments.