CryEngine 2 tech demo >>>>>>> CryEngine 3 tech demo

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#101 horrowhip
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Thank you for this post. You have proven that you misunderstood. I'm not going to bother to restate easy to read statements so I'll just say "Reread".DeckardLee


No..


They haven't demonstrated it scaling up at all. It's been dumb downed just look at the video!


If you have a link to them talking about it significantly improving the graphics on the PC then please give a link.
DeckardLee

What you stated was false

I corrected you and then i got challenged....

You either wrote something wrong, or you are now trying to deflect.

I also slightly apologize because I mistook someone else's statement about the consoles causing a PC version downgrade for a statement you made

Either way, your statement was not nearly as clear as you believe it to be.

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#102 DeckardLee
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[QUOTE="DeckardLee"]

[QUOTE="dgsag"]

You said the engine was downgraded. This simply doesn't make sense.

/thread

lundy86_4

So the engine running on the 360 and PS3 is the same as the PC version? Come on now.

Why is that everyone has to be so arrogant as to tell someone what THEY meant? It's pretty obvious what I meant.

-- Oh! I see your problem! You have me confused with TheDuffman26.

It's not exactly the same as it's been reworked to work on the consoles closed hardware. All engines are scalable to a certain extent, as you see when you put a game on low/med to high/very high on PC. It isn't downgraded, it's simply scalable

I never said CryEngine 3 games wouldn't look better than CryEngine 2 games on PC. For the last ****** time, you MISUNDERSTOOD THE CONVERSATION!

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#103 JosamaBinEating
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Crysis XConfig veryhigh HD 4850Crysis Photo RealisticCrysis - Story About 2x GeForce 295 GTXCrysis - GeForce 295 GTX As you can see, custom maps, and custom TOD (time of day) settings can make Crysis look even better.
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#104 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="DeckardLee"]

So the engine running on the 360 and PS3 is the same as the PC version? Come on now.

Why is that everyone has to be so arrogant as to tell someone what THEY meant? It's pretty obvious what I meant.

-- Oh! I see your problem! You have me confused with TheDuffman26.

DeckardLee

It's not exactly the same as it's been reworked to work on the consoles closed hardware. All engines are scalable to a certain extent, as you see when you put a game on low/med to high/very high on PC. It isn't downgraded, it's simply scalable

I never said CryEngine 3 games wouldn't look better than CryEngine 2 games on PC. For the last ****** time, you MISUNDERSTOOD THE CONVERSATION!

I never said that you did... where did you get that from?

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#105 dgsag
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="DeckardLee"]

So the engine running on the 360 and PS3 is the same as the PC version? Come on now.

Why is that everyone has to be so arrogant as to tell someone what THEY meant? It's pretty obvious what I meant.

-- Oh! I see your problem! You have me confused with TheDuffman26.

DeckardLee

It's not exactly the same as it's been reworked to work on the consoles closed hardware. All engines are scalable to a certain extent, as you see when you put a game on low/med to high/very high on PC. It isn't downgraded, it's simply scalable

I never said CryEngine 3 games wouldn't look better than CryEngine 2 games on PC. For the last ****** time, you MISUNDERSTOOD THE CONVERSATION!

Is your point that console games on the engine don't look as good as PC games do? Was anybody expecting anything else? :?
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#106 musicaz70
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Impressive, but the cars looking awful...

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#107 DeckardLee
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[QUOTE="DeckardLee"]

Thank you for this post. You have proven that you misunderstood. I'm not going to bother to restate easy to read statements so I'll just say "Reread".horrowhip


No..


They haven't demonstrated it scaling up at all. It's been dumb downed just look at the video!


If you have a link to them talking about it significantly improving the graphics on the PC then please give a link.
DeckardLee

What you stated was false

I corrected you and then i got challenged....

You either wrote something wrong, or you are now trying to deflect.

I also slightly apologize because I mistook someone else's statement about the consoles causing a PC version downgrade for a statement you made

Either way, your statement was not nearly as clear as you believe it to be.

That was when I had been told the engine was only for consoles.

I see that the many conversations I've had in this topic has confused me greatly. I was looking at the past pages and I noticed that I've had conversations in this topic that I thought were else where. I see now that a large portion of the confusion was my fault. So, I apologize. Although, in mydefense I've had many, many, many different conversations with different people :(

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#108 horrowhip
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That was when I had been told the engine was only for consoles.

DeckardLee

Oh. Well, it most certainly is not just for consoles

It is going to range a very long period of time:

Xbox 360

PS3

PC(Current)

PC(Future)

Xbox ???

PS4

Those are officially confirmed platforms as of right now.

Next Gen Console versions of the engine won't be available until those consoles are shipping, but the whole point of the engine it to scale up and down extremely well. Future, past, and present all under the same engine. That is their business model. Offer such a compelling engine that it will sell despite the high price.

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#109 DeckardLee
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Yes, I found that out several conversations ago when I did a Google search. Which was when I actually got excited for the new engine instead of bashing it :D

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#110 TheDuffman26
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[QUOTE="DeckardLee"]

Thank you for this post. You have proven that you misunderstood. I'm not going to bother to restate easy to read statements so I'll just say "Reread".

dgsag


They downdgraded it so that it would run on crappy hardware called xbox 360 and ps3. That's why multiplats suck. My hope is that the pc version will up the bar once again, just like cryengine 2 did.TheDuffman26

You said the engine was downgraded. This simply doesn't make sense.

/thread

Maybe detuned is the word I'm looking for. But lets not nit pick at words or anything.
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#111 xionvalkyrie
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Look at the Ultra High configurations, there's a significant improvement in visuals over the Very High/Enthusiast settings that Crysis/Crysis Warhead ships with, and that's just tweaking some lines in the .ini file. You need tri-SLI GTX280's to run Crysis Very High at 1920x1200 at 8x AA with no AF. The hardware just isn't up to par yet.

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#113 killa4lyfe
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Also, "Im_single" (LOL!) look at the Unreal 3 engine. Look at the ways it has been enhanced over the years. Gears Of War 2 was exponentially more impressive than Gears Of War 1. And, Gears Of War 1 was an improvement over previous Unreal 3 games. And, to top it off, they're supposed to show off some more Unreal 3 engine enhancements at this year's GDC.

So, there's two options:

1) Crysis has not reached it's full potential as Crytek, logic, configurations, and the world as we know it shows.

2) Cryengine 2 is the first proprietary engine that remained static for years.


Which one seems more likely?

Typically ill-informed consoleboy.

DeckardLee

it did not look better than gears of war 1 btw. All they did was change the color pallete an BAM! evryone thought it looked so wonderful (the first time i played it, i said to my friend that it would look much better with more color :P) i am sure the CRY-Engine 2 has not reached its peak but your analogy with gears is wrong.

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#114 lowe0
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You need tri-SLI GTX280's to run Crysis Very High at 1920x1200 at 8x AA with no AF. The hardware just isn't up to par yet.xionvalkyrie
Let's be more realistic. What's it take to drive 1680x1050, Enthusiast, no AA or AF at a rock-solid 30 FPS?
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#115 Espada12
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Let's see it's a tech demo, so .......... since the tech CryEngine 3 is made for consoles, obviously CryEngine 2 would look better since it has pc in mind :S

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#116 Dante2710
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pc has better graphics than consoles? who would have thunk it :?
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#117 dgsag
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Let's see it's a tech demo, so .......... since the tech CryEngine 3 is made for consoles, obviously CryEngine 2 would look better since it has pc in mind :S

Espada12
Not really. The Cryengine 3 is just accommodating console hardware, its got all the bells and whistles that CE2 had on higher end hardware. There would be NO reason to get rid of them.
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#118 agentfred
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[QUOTE="xionvalkyrie"]You need tri-SLI GTX280's to run Crysis Very High at 1920x1200 at 8x AA with no AF. The hardware just isn't up to par yet.lowe0
Let's be more realistic. What's it take to drive 1680x1050, Enthusiast, no AA or AF at a rock-solid 30 FPS?

My GTS 640 does that almost precisely.
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#119 lowe0
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="xionvalkyrie"]You need tri-SLI GTX280's to run Crysis Very High at 1920x1200 at 8x AA with no AF. The hardware just isn't up to par yet.agentfred
Let's be more realistic. What's it take to drive 1680x1050, Enthusiast, no AA or AF at a rock-solid 30 FPS?

My GTS 640 does that almost precisely.

At the risk of reopening this particular flame war (wherein all sorts of people will accuse me of not knowing anything about computers), my 2 8800 GTs sure as hell can't. For curiosity's sake, I just took a poke at Warhead, 1680x1050, Gamer, devmode, map cargo, and found my FPS anywhere from the high 40s down to 4. Not what I'd call rock-solid. Played through up until the LZ fight (so about equal parts foot and vehicle); usually it looked like it was 24 fps or so.
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#120 DeckardLee
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[QUOTE="DeckardLee"]

Also, "Im_single" (LOL!) look at the Unreal 3 engine. Look at the ways it has been enhanced over the years. Gears Of War 2 was exponentially more impressive than Gears Of War 1. And, Gears Of War 1 was an improvement over previous Unreal 3 games. And, to top it off, they're supposed to show off some more Unreal 3 engine enhancements at this year's GDC.

So, there's two options:

1) Crysis has not reached it's full potential as Crytek, logic, configurations, and the world as we know it shows.

2) Cryengine 2 is the first proprietary engine that remained static for years.


Which one seems more likely?

Typically ill-informed consoleboy.

killa4lyfe

it did not look better than gears of war 1 btw. All they did was change the color pallete an BAM! evryone thought it looked so wonderful (the first time i played it, i said to my friend that it would look much better with more color :P) i am sure the CRY-Engine 2 has not reached its peak but your analogy with gears is wrong.

What the hell are you talking about? You're talking as if eye candy is the only thing that goes into graphics and presentation. Gears Of War 2 had much bigger environemts and-- Why do I even bother? Just watch the tech demo at last year's GDC 09. It completely pwns everything you said. Also, there's a nice GameSpot article about this. I'm tired of pointless arguments. I've reached my quota for the day. Gears Of War 2 had some definite technical improvements that aren't immediately obvious just looking at screenshots. There's more units on screen, with more open environemnts, and--ughhh...

Just look at these videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn2Xpq8mXOg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa1-91h8ELA&feature=related

Just the fact that the models, textures, and animations are even close to the original while on this scale disproves your claim. You are done. Completely obliterated.

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#121 whatisazerg
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While PC's will always be capable of more.... the fact that we could have games look like that on current gen consoles is nothing short of amazing..... From what I could tell from the video it looks about on par with what Crysis looks like running on my rig with everything on HIGH..... Here's hoping alot of devs license this Engine for their new games and stop using the Unreal Engine.... ugh, I'm so sick of the Unreal Engine.

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#122 DeckardLee
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While PC's will always be capable of more.... the fact that we could have games look like that on current gen consoles is nothing short of amazing..... From what I could tell from the video it looks about on par with what Crysis looks like running on my rig with everything on HIGH..... Here's hoping alot of devs license this Engine for their new games and stop using the Unreal Engine.... ugh, I'm so sick of the Unreal Engine.

whatisazerg

This looks like Crysis on low ... medium at best .. but that's a stretch ...

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#123 Sonic_on_crack
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wait you guys are saying CE3 is gonna upscale on PC to visuals that are better than CE2 . I find that hard to believe
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#124 Sonic_on_crack
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While PC's will always be capable of more.... the fact that we could have games look like that on current gen consoles is nothing short of amazing..... From what I could tell from the video it looks about on par with what Crysis looks like running on my rig with everything on HIGH..... Here's hoping alot of devs license this Engine for their new games and stop using the Unreal Engine.... ugh, I'm so sick of the Unreal Engine.

whatisazerg
your rig must be trash . it doesnt look anything like Crysis on high
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#125 killerwsyan
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y all pcfanboys are mad? :\

anyway ITS LOOKS AWESOME!!!!

Ce3 FTW!!

finlay crysis on consoles!!! (new crysis* xD)

and for those who are saying its ce2 downgrade or w\e optmizied for ps3

no its not its better than cryengine 2!crytek havent said it will be optmizied or it will downgrade or w\e

its just that ce3 ganna use dx9 and dx10 ^_^

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#126 muscleserge
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="agentfred"][QUOTE="lowe0"] Let's be more realistic. What's it take to drive 1680x1050, Enthusiast, no AA or AF at a rock-solid 30 FPS?

My GTS 640 does that almost precisely.

At the risk of reopening this particular flame war (wherein all sorts of people will accuse me of not knowing anything about computers), my 2 8800 GTs sure as hell can't. For curiosity's sake, I just took a poke at Warhead, 1680x1050, Gamer, devmode, map cargo, and found my FPS anywhere from the high 40s down to 4. Not what I'd call rock-solid. Played through up until the LZ fight (so about equal parts foot and vehicle); usually it looked like it was 24 fps or so.

What's your CPU, I have a single 8800GT, granted it is OCed to 740/1836/1000, and I get smooth FPS with everything on enthusiast except for shaders and shadows with are on gamer. I get smooth 30. Maybe its your drivers, or your cards are overheating since my GT is cooled by the Duorb.
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#127 killerfist
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't CE3 made with consoles in mind? If so...you're basically saying that graphics are better on the PC? Well....ya...hm..:?
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#129 killerwsyan
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the cryengine 3 that we all see it!it was just 1 min tech demo !! so maybe its not the final build.. ?

i think the full one will be so much better..i hope :)

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#130 MetroidPrimePwn
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finlay crysis on consoles!!! (new crysis* xD)

killerwsyan

Crytek has already said that the Crysis trilogy is exclusive to PC, but any further IPs they make will be multiplats.

So this engine's first game is probably going to be TimeSplitters 4, since they purchased Free Radical. And since TimeSplitters is the most awesome console FPS series ever made, that's no less exciting. Probably more, actually, since Crysis on consoles would be a downgrade, where as TimeSplitters on consoles is exactly where it belongs.