Crysis 2 feels generic. And no, I don't blame consoles for this.

After watching a few of the new Crysis 2 trailers, I don't feel quite as hyped for this game anymore. It looks more and more like another one of those generic, linear, urban shooters with aliens and not much of a soul.

Granted, the first Crysis was average at best. If my memory serves me correctly, much of Crytek's promised features never made it into the end product. They promised that we would be able to fight alongside the Koreans against the aliens and be able to gain their trust. They also promised open levels in which the next level's starting location would be different, depending on where you exited the previous one. And there were so many other "cool" features that never made it onto the disk that I can't remember.

Additionally, I don't blame console development for this at all - I believe that Crytek became cocky and arrogant during the development of the original Crysis, recognized their mistakes, and are now trying to deliver on a product where none of their promises will ring hollow anymore - a souped-up, graphically appealing shooter with no soul whatsoever.

For Crytek, it is all about graphical fidelity, not gameplay.

For these reasons, I am waiting until Crysis 2 hits the bargain bin next year.

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The_Capitalist

my first reaction to seeing Crysis 2 in action

"OMG its The Conduit in HD!"

...I will be getting this launch day.

I agree. I was skeptical when I saw the first footage. There was nothing in the video that had a wow factor. Graphics are good but not as good fanboys claim to be. Bulletstorm on the other hand and looks far better.

Granted, the first Crysis was average at best. If my memory serves me correctly, much of Crytek's promised features never made it into the end product.The_Capitalist

After watching a few of the new Crysis 2 trailers, I don't feel quite as hyped for this game anymore. It looks more and more like another one of those generic, linear, urban shooters with aliens and not much of a soul.

Granted, the first Crysis was average at best. If my memory serves me correctly, much of Crytek's promised features never made it into the end product. They promised that we would be able to fight alongside the Koreans against the aliens and be able to gain their trust. They also promised open levels in which the next level's starting location would be different, depending on where you exited the previous one. And there were so many other "cool" features that never made it onto the disk that I can't remember.

Additionally, I don't blame console development for this at all - I believe that Crytek became cocky and arrogant during the development of the original Crysis, recognized their mistakes, and are now trying to deliver on a product where none of their promises will ring hollow anymore - a souped-up, graphically appealing shooter with no soul whatsoever.

For Crytek, it is all about graphical fidelity, not gameplay.

For these reasons, I am waiting until Crysis 2 hits the bargain bin next year.

The_Capitalist

Destructible environments + fast, smart, and powerful A.I.. + large maps + sandbox game play + insane verticality + customizable weapons + customizable nanosuit + combining suit powers+ dynamic ToD, etc. = about as far from generic as you can get. Then again, this is coming from someone who loved the C1/Warhead (for the gameplay).

Sandbox gameplay? Did you not watch the E3 footage? It was packed with scripted events. Great graphics but gameplay looks boring and repetitive. I really wish Crytek would just build engines and let someone else handle the games. At least hire someone else to do the story.

After watching a few of the new Crysis 2 trailers, I don't feel quite as hyped for this game anymore. It looks more and more like another one of those generic, linear, urban shooters with aliens and not much of a soul.

Granted, the first Crysis was average at best. If my memory serves me correctly, much of Crytek's promised features never made it into the end product. They promised that we would be able to fight alongside the Koreans against the aliens and be able to gain their trust. They also promised open levels in which the next level's starting location would be different, depending on where you exited the previous one. And there were so many other "cool" features that never made it onto the disk that I can't remember.

Additionally, I don't blame console development for this at all - I believe that Crytek became cocky and arrogant during the development of the original Crysis, recognized their mistakes, and are now trying to deliver on a product where none of their promises will ring hollow anymore - a souped-up, graphically appealing shooter with no soul whatsoever.

For Crytek, it is all about graphical fidelity, not gameplay.

For these reasons, I am waiting until Crysis 2 hits the bargain bin next year.

The_Capitalist

The Good

• Dynamic, emergent shooter gameplay
• Unparalleled visuals with destructible environments
• High level of replayability
• Power struggle makes for huge multiplayer battles
• An amazing accomplishment overall.

So, I guess in their attempt to make the prettiest shooter ever, they accidentally made one of the best shooters ever in every aspect.

Sandbox gameplay? Did you not watch the E3 footage? It was packed with scripted events. Great graphics but gameplay looks boring and repetitive. I really wish Crytek would just build engines and let someone else handle the games. At least hire someone else to do the story.

dc337

Destructible environments + fast, smart, and powerful A.I.. + large maps + sandbox game play + insane verticality + customizable weapons + customizable nanosuit + combining suit powers+ dynamic ToD, etc. = about as far from generic as you can get. Then again, this is coming from someone who loved the C1/Warhead (for the gameplay).

windsquid9000

I remember they promised better AI in Crysis, too. One of the old trailers called the enemy "cunning". The Koreans were pretty dumb for the most part. The aliens just floated there with little sense of cohesion at all.

Sandbox gameplay? Really? Each level in Crysis (more so in Warhead) were big wide corridors with only two, maybe three options with which you could proceed. They weren't as open as promised. In Warhead, the game grew even more linear.

Combined suit powers does sound nice, however.

[QUOTE="dc337"]

Sandbox gameplay? Did you not watch the E3 footage? It was packed with scripted events. Great graphics but gameplay looks boring and repetitive. I really wish Crytek would just build engines and let someone else handle the games. At least hire someone else to do the story.

Einhanderkiller

Yeah, shooting aliens in New York with super powers is so generic...

:roll:

crysis is over rated by leeps and bounds i am not hpyed for it at all

Sandbox gameplay? Did you not watch the E3 footage? It was packed with scripted events. Great graphics but gameplay looks boring and repetitive. I really wish Crytek would just build engines and let someone else handle the games. At least hire someone else to do the story.

dc337

Wow, a lot of Crysis 2 hate it seems. Oh well, looks fantastic to me. I'll have it day one.

[QUOTE="Einhanderkiller"][QUOTE="dc337"]

Sandbox gameplay? Did you not watch the E3 footage? It was packed with scripted events. Great graphics but gameplay looks boring and repetitive. I really wish Crytek would just build engines and let someone else handle the games. At least hire someone else to do the story.

dc337

well crysis was always about the look ......as a game it always sucked

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

Destructible environments + fast, smart, and powerful A.I.. + large maps + sandbox game play + insane verticality + customizable weapons + customizable nanosuit + combining suit powers+ dynamic ToD, etc. = about as far from generic as you can get. Then again, this is coming from someone who loved the C1/Warhead (for the gameplay).

The_Capitalist

I remember they promised better AI in Crysis, too. One of the old trailers called the enemy "cunning". The Koreans were pretty dumb for the most part. The aliens just floated there with little sense of cohesion at all.

Sandbox gameplay? Really? Each level in Crysis (more so in Warhead) were big wide corridors with only two, maybe three options with which you could proceed. They weren't as open as promised. In Warhead, the game grew even more linear.

Combined suit powers does sound nice, however.

[QUOTE="dc337"]

Sandbox gameplay? Did you not watch the E3 footage? It was packed with scripted events. Great graphics but gameplay looks boring and repetitive. I really wish Crytek would just build engines and let someone else handle the games. At least hire someone else to do the story.

windsquid9000

If anyone's interested, you can see some new Crysis 2 footage from ign's interview here. Does anyone still think that this will be the new benchment for graphics across each platform?

If anyone's interested, you can see some new Crysis 2 footage from ign's interview here. Does anyone still think that this will be the new benchment for graphics across each platform?

JMR09

yup crysis is all about eye candy

[QUOTE="The_Capitalist"]

After watching a few of the new Crysis 2 trailers, I don't feel quite as hyped for this game anymore. It looks more and more like another one of those generic, linear, urban shooters with aliens and not much of a soul.

Granted, the first Crysis was average at best. If my memory serves me correctly, much of Crytek's promised features never made it into the end product. They promised that we would be able to fight alongside the Koreans against the aliens and be able to gain their trust. They also promised open levels in which the next level's starting location would be different, depending on where you exited the previous one. And there were so many other "cool" features that never made it onto the disk that I can't remember.

Additionally, I don't blame console development for this at all - I believe that Crytek became cocky and arrogant during the development of the original Crysis, recognized their mistakes, and are now trying to deliver on a product where none of their promises will ring hollow anymore - a souped-up, graphically appealing shooter with no soul whatsoever.

For Crytek, it is all about graphical fidelity, not gameplay.

For these reasons, I am waiting until Crysis 2 hits the bargain bin next year.

windsquid9000

The Good

• Dynamic, emergent shooter gameplay
• Unparalleled visuals with destructible environments
• High level of replayability
• Power struggle makes for huge multiplayer battles
• An amazing accomplishment overall.

So, I guess in their attempt to make the prettiest shooter ever, they accidentally made one of the best shooters ever in every aspect.

except for the mediocre story...

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

[QUOTE="The_Capitalist"]

After watching a few of the new Crysis 2 trailers, I don't feel quite as hyped for this game anymore. It looks more and more like another one of those generic, linear, urban shooters with aliens and not much of a soul.

Granted, the first Crysis was average at best. If my memory serves me correctly, much of Crytek's promised features never made it into the end product. They promised that we would be able to fight alongside the Koreans against the aliens and be able to gain their trust. They also promised open levels in which the next level's starting location would be different, depending on where you exited the previous one. And there were so many other "cool" features that never made it onto the disk that I can't remember.

Additionally, I don't blame console development for this at all - I believe that Crytek became cocky and arrogant during the development of the original Crysis, recognized their mistakes, and are now trying to deliver on a product where none of their promises will ring hollow anymore - a souped-up, graphically appealing shooter with no soul whatsoever.

For Crytek, it is all about graphical fidelity, not gameplay.

For these reasons, I am waiting until Crysis 2 hits the bargain bin next year.

Quaker-w00ts

The Good

• Dynamic, emergent shooter gameplay
• Unparalleled visuals with destructible environments
• High level of replayability
• Power struggle makes for huge multiplayer battles
• An amazing accomplishment overall.

So, I guess in their attempt to make the prettiest shooter ever, they accidentally made one of the best shooters ever in every aspect.

except for the mediocre story...

I was really excited for it but E3 kind of killed my hype.

Well, I can't say that I was happy with the gameplay they showed. The controller had as much sensibility as WWII tank, and probably the guy that played was mentally retarded. The only thing we can really complain is that Crytek is failing not to make the game, but to *show* it how it really is. I do agree though that if they show even more footage and nothing changes, then we can suspect that something smells fishy. Right now, as I stated before, I am confused about what the game really is.

With that in mind, how many games weren't 'generic' at all showcases? If you pick all FPS they've shown, it all looked terribly generic; the new CoD was as generic as it gets. The games that weren't generic were all Nintendo or motion control and probably MGS: Rising.

If anyone's interested, you can see some new Crysis 2 footage from ign's interview here. Does anyone still think that this will be the new benchment for graphics across each platform?

JMR09

If anyone's interested, you can see some new Crysis 2 footage from ign's interview here. Does anyone still think that this will be the new benchment for graphics across each platform?

JMR09

Until Crytek stops demoing the game at low settings with a 360 pad we'll never know until later this year.

It wasn't that bad (GameSpot liked it) and Crytek has an award-winning sci-fi author writing the story for C2.windsquid9000

well crysis was always about the look ......as a game it always sucked

Medic_B

9.5

K thx you lose.

Well, I can't say that I was happy with the gameplay they showed. The controller had as much sensibility as WWII tank, and probably the guy that played was mentally retarded. The only thing we can really complain is that Crytek is failing not to make the game, but to *show* it how it really is. I do agree though that if they show even more footage and nothing changes, then we can suspect that something smells fishy. Right now, as I stated before, I am confused about what the game really is.

With that in mind, how many games weren't 'generic' at all showcases? If you pick all FPS they've shown, it all looked terribly generic; the new CoD was as generic as it gets. The games that weren't generic were all Nintendo or motion control and probably MGS: Rising.

Masculus

Okay, overuse of the word "generic" should be an offense punishable by moderation. How about we all take a trip to thesaurus.com and find new ways to express our feelings? Btw, what exactly is your definition of "generic"? Each shooter shown had things about them that made them unique from other shooters. I'm starting to think System Warriors just like to bash things just for the sake of bashing them.windsquid9000

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"] Okay, overuse of the word "generic" should be an offense punishable by moderation. How about we all take a trip to thesaurus.com and find new ways to express our feelings? Btw, what exactly is your definition of "generic"? Each shooter shown had things about them that made them unique from other shooters. I'm starting to think System Warriors just like to bash things just for the sake of bashing them.dc337

[QUOTE="dc337"]

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"] Okay, overuse of the word "generic" should be an offense punishable by moderation. How about we all take a trip to thesaurus.com and find new ways to express our feelings? Btw, what exactly is your definition of "generic"? Each shooter shown had things about them that made them unique from other shooters. I'm starting to think System Warriors just like to bash things just for the sake of bashing them.windsquid9000

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

[QUOTE="dc337"]

Because it looks like a generic alien shooter. Pick up some guns, shoot the aliens, rinse and repeat.

dc337

[QUOTE="dc337"]

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"] Again, you can make any game sound "generic" if you describe it like that.

windsquid9000

I get the impression the industry is creatively bankrupt to a fairly sizeable degree. All these shooters seem to blend together and I find it difficult to care.

The one I think has stood out the most so far was Bulletstorm thanks to the demonstration being actually funny, which is a rare feat to accomplish. Very crass, stupid humor, but it works for me.

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

[QUOTE="dc337"] Not all shooters are generic, just have a look at the video preview for Xcom.

dc337

[QUOTE="Masculus"]

Well, I can't say that I was happy with the gameplay they showed. The controller had as much sensibility as WWII tank, and probably the guy that played was mentally retarded. The only thing we can really complain is that Crytek is failing not to make the game, but to *show* it how it really is. I do agree though that if they show even more footage and nothing changes, then we can suspect that something smells fishy. Right now, as I stated before, I am confused about what the game really is.

With that in mind, how many games weren't 'generic' at all showcases? If you pick all FPS they've shown, it all looked terribly generic; the new CoD was as generic as it gets. The games that weren't generic were all Nintendo or motion control and probably MGS: Rising.

windsquid9000

Crysis looks pretty meh to me. Im stoked for Halo Reach though :)

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

Destructible environments + fast, smart, and powerful A.I.. + large maps + sandbox game play + insane verticality + customizable weapons + customizable nanosuit + combining suit powers+ dynamic ToD, etc. = about as far from generic as you can get. Then again, this is coming from someone who loved the C1/Warhead (for the gameplay).

The_Capitalist

I remember they promised better AI in Crysis, too. One of the old trailers called the enemy "cunning". The Koreans were pretty dumb for the most part. The aliens just floated there with little sense of cohesion at all.

Sandbox gameplay? Really? Each level in Crysis (more so in Warhead) were big wide corridors with only two, maybe three options with which you could proceed. They weren't as open as promised. In Warhead, the game grew even more linear.

Combined suit powers does sound nice, however.

I'm not really a FPS player but I feel that the Crysis series seem a lot less generic than many other games in the genre. There seems to be a lot more going on in the game than many other first person shooters; from what I saw in the E3 demo anyway. I don't really have that much knowledge on the genre though so I guess my opinion isn't that objective.

From what I've seen so far I'm not that impress. I want it to be like Crysis 1 again where it is full blown open enviroment. I'm still keeping an eye on this seeing as I've only seen a small part of the campaign.

well crysis was always about the look ......as a game it always sucked

Medic_B

From what I've seen so far I'm not that impress. I want it to be like Crysis 1 again where it is full blown open enviroment. I'm still keeping an eye on this seeing as I've only seen a small part of the campaign.

klusps

Granted, the first Crysis was average at best.

The_Capitalist