Crysis 2 Gameplay Footage *56k*

[QUOTE="def_mode"][QUOTE="windsquid9000"] You said "playable", not "maxed". Getting Crysis running isn't a hard task at all. Getting Crysis running at aesthetically pleasing settings isn't all that hard either depending on which settings you prioritize. Running it maxed out with a good frame rate, on the other hand, is rather challenging, though that's not necessary to enjoy the game. Large maps, sandbox game play, destructible environments, customizable weapons, and being able to change your strategy on the fly is what makes Crysis so epic.hypoty

Firstly, the only topic of interest in SW is graphics. Secondly, don't talk in absolutes. You may have found the gameplay lacking but many would disagree with you, including me. I found gameplay works great within the sandboxey level design of Crysis. It gave me the tools to play the game the way I wanted and I found the infinitely more engaging than the route other FPS's have taken.

Then would you at least throw an "IMO" in there or something so this thread won't get derailed?hypoty

[QUOTE="def_mode"][QUOTE="hypoty"]

I agree with the MP aspect, but I found Crysis's campaign mode to be masterfully designed. I would go as far to say that it's my favourite FPS campaign of this generation. I've replayed it a number of times whereas with most other shooters I'll be lucky to stay interested long enough to complete the campaign even once.

hypoty

Then would you at least throw an "IMO" in there or something so this thread won't get derailed?

[QUOTE="hypoty"]Then would you at least throw an "IMO" in there or something so this thread won't get derailed?Lonelynight

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[QUOTE="def_mode"] Crysis is indeed epic in graphics and mediocre on gameplay. But dont you see, nobody here talks about Crysis gameplay, its all about its graphics. def_mode

Firstly, the only topic of interest in SW is graphics. Secondly, don't talk in absolutes. You may have found the gameplay lacking but many would disagree with you, including me. I found gameplay works great within the sandboxey level design of Crysis. It gave me the tools to play the game the way I wanted and I found the infinitely more engaging than the route other FPS's have taken.

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="mccoyca112"]If we are talking about the first, thats up to debate, depending on how people played it. mccoyca112

Well thats great and all, but there are plenty of people that dont have an ounce of imagination which led them to be bored with it. Thats all Im saying so no need to try and lay the facts down to which I already understand. What Im saying is people will never come to a general consensus of its quality/its generic. Thats all I meant by that..

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="hypoty"]Then would you at least throw an "IMO" in there or something so this thread won't get derailed?def_mode

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="hypoty"]Then would you at least throw an "IMO" in there or something so this thread won't get derailed?def_mode

You're aren't giving any reasons why you think it's not that great. All you're saying is 'I've played it 5 times, but it doesn't stand up to other shooters'.

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="ocstew"] You just listed the reasons why Crysis stand out... So why doesn't it stand a chance other FPS titles? def_mode

See what I mean? You're just saying it doesn't stand out, but you don't say why. It's really not that hard.

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="def_mode"] what's that suppose to mean!?! HMPF!!!def_mode

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="ocstew"] People jump on them because they usually use poorly though out arguments.[QUOTE="def_mode"] Yea I've played the game about 5 times, playing the campaign on different difficulty settings and trying to do other things like exploring, killing, having fun with the abilities of the nanosuit. Crysis is a good game, all im saying, compared to other FPS games, it doesnt stand a chance other than its graphics.def_mode

[QUOTE="def_mode"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"] You just listed the reasons why Crysis stand out... So why doesn't it stand a chance other FPS titles? Esnedon

See what I mean? You're just saying it doesn't stand out, but you don't say why. It's really not that hard.

[QUOTE="def_mode"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"] You just listed the reasons why Crysis stand out... So why doesn't it stand a chance other FPS titles? 2mrw

It's not that I think he thinks what he said are facts, rather, it's because he doesn't properly explain his opinion. Having an opinion is nice and all, but if it's not back up by logic, it doesn't really mean anything other than saying "I have no real knowledge on the subject"Lonelynight

Ah, in my experience slapping an IMO at the end resolves any long, drawn out arguments that would have otherwise occurred. Especially with something as subjective as gameplay.

My bad.

But everything said in this thread is an opinion. Unless there's evidences or whatever that makes it a fact otherwise.

def_mode

No worries, if the gameplay in Crysis didn't appeal to you then I fully understand that and respect your opinion.

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[QUOTE="def_mode"] IMO Crysis doesnt stand out, well maybe because its just me. HL2 raised the bar for me, Bioshock raised it on another level for me. IMO Crysis would not make it alive (competition wise) if it wasnt for its graphics.def_mode

See what I mean? You're just saying it doesn't stand out, but you don't say why. It's really not that hard.

That's not subjective at all. Not liking Halo 3 because it's a futuristic fps is a valid reason. You, on the other hand, refuse to give any reasons at all, which is making me start to doubt that you've even played Crysis.

[QUOTE="def_mode"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"] What I meant was that you never actually explain your opinion.windsquid9000

[QUOTE="def_mode"][QUOTE="Esnedon"]

See what I mean? You're just saying it doesn't stand out, but you don't say why. It's really not that hard.

Esnedon

That's not subjective at all. Not liking Halo 3 because it's a futuristic fps is a valid reason. You, on the other hand, refuse to give any reasons at all, which is making me start to doubt that you've even played Crysis.

I own both consoles and i think Crysis 2 will be the best looking console game. It already looks better than anything out on consoles by far. The PS3 and 360 will both look phenominal.

But of course the fanboys will argue and wont accept either versions to be graphics kings, especially the cows. PS3 fanboys will never accept a multiplat game to be better looking than anything in their library even if it is a multiplat game.

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[QUOTE="def_mode"] Why would I wanna explain why? You know everything I will list is subjective because it my opinion. For example, lets say you love Halo3 because of its amazing graphics, well I can say Halo3 sucks because I dont like playing futuristic fps, its all subjective. def_mode

That's not subjective at all. Not liking Halo 3 because it's a futuristic fps is a valid reason. You, on the other hand, refuse to give any reasons at all, which is making me start to doubt that you've even played Crysis.

OK, I'm not going to go any further with this. Just keep in mind that your opinions aren't going to have much impact if you don't have any reasoning behind them. Opinion is subjective. Reasoning behind opinion isn't.

Do people really have to back up their opinions now? Do I always have to list and tell people why I think Obama is better than Mclain?

Ah, in my experience slapping an IMO at the end resolves any long, drawn out arguments that would have otherwise occurred. Especially with something as subjective as gameplay.hypoty

IMO Crysis doesnt stand out, well maybe because its just me. HL2 raised the bar for me, Bioshock raised it on another level for me. IMO Crysis would not make it alive (competition wise) if it wasnt for its graphics.def_mode

Half-Life 2 environments design, and characters are phenomenal, but in the field of gunplay the game as big holes. The game is oriented towards the use of the gravity gun, clearly over any other device, and the gunplay fastly becomes boring. A example of this is that almost no one play the HL-2 deathmatch, which is way less popular than the deathmatch modes from games as Quake, UT, Battlefield series or Call Of Duty series.

Some people will try to argue that the true multiplayer from Valve is in Counter Strike: Source, Team Fortress 2 or Left 4 Dead games, but the truth is that in terms of gunplay Half-Life 2 is a failure, in the same way as Bioshock. Both games excels story wise and due the atmosphere, but when comes about to shot things the A.I is bland as the weapons themselves.

[QUOTE="def_mode"][QUOTE="Esnedon"]

That's not subjective at all. Not liking Halo 3 because it's a futuristic fps is a valid reason. You, on the other hand, refuse to give any reasons at all, which is making me start to doubt that you've even played Crysis.

Esnedon

OK, I'm not going to go any further with this. Just keep in mind that your opinions aren't going to have much impact if you don't have any reasoning behind them. Opinion is subjective. Reasoning behind opinion isn't.

Do people really have to back up their opinions now? Do I always have to list and tell people why I think Obama is better than Mclain?

def_mode

Do people really have to back up their opinions now? Do I always have to list and tell people why I think Obama is better than Mclain?

def_mode

[QUOTE="def_mode"] IMO Crysis doesnt stand out, well maybe because its just me. HL2 raised the bar for me, Bioshock raised it on another level for me. IMO Crysis would not make it alive (competition wise) if it wasnt for its graphics.Ondoval

Half-Life 2 environments design, and characters are phenomenal, but in the field of gunplay the game as big holes. The game is oriented towards the use of the gravity gun, clearly over any other device, and the gunplay fastly becomes boring. A example of this is that almost no one play the HL-2 deathmatch, which is way less popular than the deathmatch modes from games as Quake, UT, Battlefield series or Call Of Duty series.

Some people will try to argue that the true multiplayer from Valve is in Counter Strike: Source, Team Fortress 2 or Left 4 Dead games, but the truth is that in terms of gunplay Half-Life 2 is a failure, in the same way as Bioshock. Both games excels story wise and due the atmosphere, but when comes about to shot things the A.I is bland as the weapons themselves.

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"][QUOTE="def_mode"] You are questioning my opinion, its like asking me why do I think Nvidia is better than ATI. Its just what it is, I dont want to list reasons, Ive played HL2 and Bioshock more than years ago and I dont know the reasons are I just think they are better than Crysis. Just leave it at that.Sandvichman

Actually you do - you didn't like the taste of them. I said I'm going to leave this alone, anyway, so that's the last thing I'm gonna say on it.

[QUOTE="def_mode"][ reasoning is subjective.Lonelynight

Whatever my reasoning about how good or bad Crysis is, someone will disagree, no matter how you look at it.

What if I say the superhuman abilities of the nanosuit user is bad, would you agree? obviously I dont know beause you have your own reasoning.

Nice gifs but they get absolutly destroyed by UC2, they really don't look any better then KZ2, KZ2 has much better gun models, animations, explosions, particle effects, AI, more things happening on screen etc. Crysis 2 still has a long way, the footage looks overly clean imo, they still need to work on a bunch of aspects.

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="def_mode"][ reasoning is subjective.def_mode

i disagree. :P

Looks incredibly generic with great graphics. I wonder what people would be saying if the first only had subpar graphics...

fueled-system

funny i feel the same way about GT5 :P

Nice gifs but they get absolutly destroyed by UC2, they really don't look any better then KZ2, KZ2 has much better gun models, animations, explosions, particle effects, AI, more things happening on screen etc. Crysis 2 still has a long way, the footage looks overly clean imo, they still need to work on a bunch of aspects.

Mestitia

lol I just rewatched the footage, you people saying it's the best looking game on consoles haven't played Uncharted 2 or killzone 2 or GoW III, seriously lol. It still has ways to go but I'm talking about the GT footage, what we have now.

PC version will blow the others away.. Unfortunately I'm guessing no one will be able to play it on max settings

lol I just rewatched the footage, you people saying it's the best looking game on consoles haven't played Uncharted 2 or killzone 2 or GoW III, seriously lol. It still has ways to go but I'm talking about the GT footage, what we have now.

Mestitia

Why not? It has a much larger world than all three of these games (You can go to the first storey of every buildingin the sandbox), has destructible environments, smart AI, and awesome effects... All they need to do more, is add some post-processing, like SSAO on the buildings for example. Anyway, a clean look is much better from a gameplay standpoint from the over-postprocessed KZ2, the only FPS in your list, so the only game that I can objectively compare Crysis 2 to.

EDIT - Let's just wait until the game releases, then we can debate more.