Crysis 2 has been downgraded...from what was originally shown!

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#1 soapandbubbles
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Now beside the fact that it has been given the console treatment with textures..if you remember the FIRST look of crysis 2 with the dev interivew...you will see that initually the game should have had much more physics/destruction..shown in this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yyic8XeFE44

Sadly this was removed..most likely because the console couldn't handle it with some other newly added effects overtime during dev or something.

Thoughts?

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#2 mitu123
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Consoles: They have laughable 2005 hardware and go into 20FPS at times, those added effects will make them run worse.

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#3 Salt_The_Fries
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Alan Wake was downgraded too...But I'd say it didn't hurt him THAT bad. It was still a good game, and open environment structure would actually hurt it more than it could benefit from.

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#4 sethman410
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? I don't get it. They just showed console versions running smooth.
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#5 WilliamRLBaker
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Eh Never cared for crysis 2 I only ever used it as fodder for 360 dominance over the ps3.

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I like how he pronounces "signature." Sig-NAY-chur.
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#7 soapandbubbles
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? I don't get it. They just showed console versions running smooth.sethman410
look at the destruction...shooting the building the rubble/falling parts. We don't have that in the final version.
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#8 KHAndAnime
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I actually thought this was going to be in the game when I pre-ordered it. Scam artists at the top of their game.
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The aliens looked so much better in the reveal trailer than they do now.
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#10 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="sethman410"]? I don't get it. They just showed console versions running smooth.soapandbubbles
look at the destruction...shooting the building the rubble/falling parts. We don't have that in the final version.

Not that it's a big deal, but when you shoot at the glass, it doesn't shatter. It just cracks. And if you shoot at more than two areas, the one before will disappear. NEW GLASS! :P Destructible parts of the environment was talked about until the later months and I'm pretty surprised that it wasn't included at all. I love how they completely swept everything under the rug. Don't get me wrong, I like Crysis 2 for what it is. It's a fun game, but to call it a PC-minded game or PC game built ground up is a complete falsification of the truth. :P

Crysis 2 should win "Bullet droppings Graphics King!"

c

I hate to say it, but console hardware is to blame. Anyone that argues that is in complete denial.

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#11 Ikuto_Tsukiyomi
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[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"][QUOTE="sethman410"]? I don't get it. They just showed console versions running smooth.Elann2008

look at the destruction...shooting the building the rubble/falling parts. We don't have that in the final version.

Not that it's a big deal, but when you shoot at the glass, it doesn't shatter. It just cracks. And if you shoot at more than two areas, the one before will disappear. NEW GLASS! :P Destructible parts of the environment was talked about until the later months and I'm pretty surprised that it wasn't included at all. I love how they completely swept everything under the rug. Don't get me wrong, I like Crysis 2 for what it is. It's a fun game, but to call it a PC-minded game or PC game built ground up is a complete falsification of the truth. :P

Crysis 2 should win "Bullet droppings Graphics King!"

c

I hate to say it, but console hardware is to blame. Anyone that argues that is in complete denial.

/glassses

Jesus did you draw those on the floor?

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[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"][QUOTE="sethman410"] [QUOTE="Elann2008"]

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"][QUOTE="sethman410"]? I don't get it. They just showed console versions running smooth.Elann2008

look at the destruction...shooting the building the rubble/falling parts. We don't have that in the final version.

Not that it's a big deal, but when you shoot at the glass, it doesn't shatter. It just cracks. And if you shoot at more than two areas, the one before will disappear. NEW GLASS! :P Destructible parts of the environment was talked about until the later months and I'm pretty surprised that it wasn't included at all. I love how they completely swept everything under the rug. Don't get me wrong, I like Crysis 2 for what it is. It's a fun game, but to call it a PC-minded game or PC game built ground up is a complete falsification of the truth. :P

Crysis 2 should win "Bullet droppings Graphics King!"

c

I hate to say it, but console hardware is to blame. Anyone that argues that is in complete denial.

Eh, idk. But the bullets look so flat to the ground making it seem like the bullets are actually part of the ground. Maybe when I play the game and it wouldn't look like that, then I would agree that it is bullet dropping graphics king. I got a good question though. What about the first Crysis? Since Crysis 1 is still graphics king, I wanna see it. Posting some pictures would be nice.

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#13 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"] look at the destruction...shooting the building the rubble/falling parts. We don't have that in the final version. Ikuto_Tsukiyomi

Not that it's a big deal, but when you shoot at the glass, it doesn't shatter. It just cracks. And if you shoot at more than two areas, the one before will disappear. NEW GLASS! :P Destructible parts of the environment was talked about until the later months and I'm pretty surprised that it wasn't included at all. I love how they completely swept everything under the rug. Don't get me wrong, I like Crysis 2 for what it is. It's a fun game, but to call it a PC-minded game or PC game built ground up is a complete falsification of the truth. :P

Crysis 2 should win "Bullet droppings Graphics King!"

c

I hate to say it, but console hardware is to blame. Anyone that argues that is in complete denial.

/glassses

Jesus did you draw those on the floor?

I promise you I didn't >.< And it's April 2nd here so I'm not trying to April Fool you either. :P Just something I noticed right away at a checkpoint about 4.5 hours into the game, 26% completion.

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#14 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"] look at the destruction...shooting the building the rubble/falling parts. We don't have that in the final version. sethman410

Not that it's a big deal, but when you shoot at the glass, it doesn't shatter. It just cracks. And if you shoot at more than two areas, the one before will disappear. NEW GLASS! :P Destructible parts of the environment was talked about until the later months and I'm pretty surprised that it wasn't included at all. I love how they completely swept everything under the rug. Don't get me wrong, I like Crysis 2 for what it is. It's a fun game, but to call it a PC-minded game or PC game built ground up is a complete falsification of the truth. :P

Crysis 2 should win "Bullet droppings Graphics King!"

c

I hate to say it, but console hardware is to blame. Anyone that argues that is in complete denial.

Eh, idk. But the bullets look so flat to the ground making it seem like the bullets are actually part of the ground. Maybe when I play the game and it wouldn't look like that, then I would agree that it is bullet dropping graphics king. I got a good question though. What about the first Crysis? Since Crysis 1 is still graphics king, I wanna see it. Posting some pictures would be nice.

I also promise you that when you play the game, it WILL look like that. I'm at max settings, extreme, tweaked the game so fine, it's sweet as wine. Sorry, that was lame. But you know what I mean. 1920x1200 resolution, 60fps. And no, I didn't paint that or photoshop. :P I'll fire up Crysis and take screenshots of the bullets in there. Well, Crysis Warhead.

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#15 sethman410
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Elann2008

Sure, I believe you. Only believe in what you see with your own eyes PLAYING THE GAME. Not just pictures. So, I understand. Thanks for firing up Crysis Warhead and making progress. Can't wait to see the results and comparisons.

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#16 Elann2008
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Taken right from Crysis Warhead. I proned to get as close as possible. The bullets disappear within a second though so I had to take these screenshots fast.

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[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"] look at the destruction...shooting the building the rubble/falling parts. We don't have that in the final version. sethman410

Not that it's a big deal, but when you shoot at the glass, it doesn't shatter. It just cracks. And if you shoot at more than two areas, the one before will disappear. NEW GLASS! :P Destructible parts of the environment was talked about until the later months and I'm pretty surprised that it wasn't included at all. I love how they completely swept everything under the rug. Don't get me wrong, I like Crysis 2 for what it is. It's a fun game, but to call it a PC-minded game or PC game built ground up is a complete falsification of the truth. :P

Crysis 2 should win "Bullet droppings Graphics King!"

c

I hate to say it, but console hardware is to blame. Anyone that argues that is in complete denial.

Eh, idk. But the bullets look so flat to the ground making it seem like the bullets are actually part of the ground. Maybe when I play the game and it wouldn't look like that, then I would agree that it is bullet dropping graphics king. I got a good question though. What about the first Crysis? Since Crysis 1 is still graphics king, I wanna see it. Posting some pictures would be nice.

Yeah, it's a texture (terrible one at that). Actual bullet casings from your weapons are 3D. :P

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#18 sethman410
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Taken right from Crysis Warhead. I proned to get as close as possible. The bullets disappear within a second though so I had to take these screenshots fast.

Elann2008

Imho. Crysis 2 is bullets dropping graphics king. Bullets look more realistic and does not dissappear fast neither. Oh, and thanks for posting those pictures! :D

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Now beside the fact that it has been given the console treatment with textures..if you remember the FIRST look of crysis 2 with the dev interivew...you will see that initually the game should have had much more physics/destruction..shown in this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yyic8XeFE44

Sadly this was removed..most likely because the console couldn't handle it with some other newly added effects overtime during dev or something.

Thoughts?

soapandbubbles

I still remember the first preview released for Crysis 2..

http://h-2.abload.de/img/byscrinjz1v.jpg

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http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/5458/26934357.jpg

mattuk69

What's with all that blur all around the screen in C2, only the center is a clear image. I have noticed it in every pic of C2 and it makes no sense to me.

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[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/5458/26934357.jpg

edidili

What's with all that blur all around the screen in C2, only the center is a clear image. I have noticed it in every pic of C2 and it makes no sense to me.

Looks like depth of field to me
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[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/5458/26934357.jpg

edidili

What's with all that blur all around the screen in C2, only the center is a clear image. I have noticed it in every pic of C2 and it makes no sense to me.

Its probably the MSAA it blurs the game to hell! Turn it off the game is nice and crisp. But because Crysis is a pile of crap port their is no AA... So you gotta choose between blur or jaggies.
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Whatever happened to the day/night cycle for this game???

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#25 Locutus_Picard
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Whatever happened to the day/night cycle for this game???

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The 360 version happened. :(
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[QUOTE="edidili"]

[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/5458/26934357.jpg

mattuk69

What's with all that blur all around the screen in C2, only the center is a clear image. I have noticed it in every pic of C2 and it makes no sense to me.

Its probably the MSAA it blurs the game to hell! Turn it off the game is nice and crisp. But because Crysis is a pile of crap port their is no AA... So you gotta choose between blur or jaggies.

Thats actually how your eyes work when aiming a gun in real life. But you can't notice it in real life because you can't aim and then stand back and see the image too subjectively. Its to draw your eyes into the area where you're aiming. U2 did it too. It just looks bad for a game because you can sit back and look at the whole area and stay aiming.

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[QUOTE="mattuk69"][QUOTE="edidili"]

What's with all that blur all around the screen in C2, only the center is a clear image. I have noticed it in every pic of C2 and it makes no sense to me.

seanmcloughlin

Its probably the MSAA it blurs the game to hell! Turn it off the game is nice and crisp. But because Crysis is a pile of crap port their is no AA... So you gotta choose between blur or jaggies.

Thats actually how your eyes work when aiming a gun in real life. But you can't notice it in real life because you can't aim and then stand back and see the image too subjectively. Its to draw your eyes into the area where you're aiming. U2 did it too. It just looks bad for a game because you can sit back and look at the whole area and stay aiming.

That's how your eyes in real life work? :lol: You're confusing it with the telephoto lens effect of not being able to adjust the focus point to (multiple images in) multiple distances. You know, the eye is a MUCH more advanced lens to be hampered by such trivial things.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwHbQQAH4S0#t=5m56s

Crytek should have used that TOD....

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#31 Masculus
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I noticed that when i was playing. I have fruitlessly tried to smash the roof of cars, trying to feel badass for jumping and landing on an awesome smash. One can't avoid feeling that while Crysis 2 is a good game it does not accomplishes half of it's technological potential.

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#32 heretrix
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I really can't think of too many games that haven't been changed from the first time they've showed it. Games are ususally downgraded after the realize that alkl of the crap they want to throw in the game will probably affect performance in some way.

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#33 killzoneded
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Whatever happened to the day/night cycle for this game???

Locutus_Picard

The 360 version happened. :(

You mean the PS3 version that looks and runs far worst and sub HD

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#34 moistsandwich
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It saddens me that the game was downgraded... but not enough to make the game any less fun. Crysis 2 is easily in the top 5 fps this gen.

Also... when I'm playing... I'm too busy Ooooooo'ing and Ahhhhhh'ing at the pretty lighting effects and killing CELL & CEPH to have time to stare at the ground to where my bullet casings are dropping.

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It saddens me that the game was downgraded... but not enough to make the game any less fun. Crysis 2 is easily in the top 5 fps this gen.

Also... when I'm playing... I'm too busy Ooooooo'ing and Ahhhhhh'ing at the pretty lighting effects and killing CELL & CEPH to have time to stare at the ground to where my bullet casings are dropping.

moistsandwich

Yeah, the lighting is phenomenal.. Watch this. Even the green arrows from the Nanosuits tactical upgrade emit light.

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If you add the things in that video the console would start to have smoke coming out of it and then it would blow up or melt.
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Graphics may be worse, but the rest is better than the first 2 "tech demos..... I mean games.
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Graphics may be worse, but the rest is better than the first 2 "tech demos..... I mean games. millerlight89
While Crysis 2 may have greater set pieces... it's no where near as great as Crysis 1'

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Graphics may be worse, but the rest is better than the first 2 "tech demos..... I mean games. devious742

While Crysis 2 may have greater set pieces... it's no where near as great as Crysis 1

I agree, it's a great game but it's no Crysis 1.
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Graphics may be worse, but the rest is better than the first 2 "tech demos..... I mean games. devious742

While Crysis 2 may have greater set pieces... it's no where near as great as Crysis 1'

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I'm sorry, I still think Crysis 2 is a better game than Crysis and Crysis Warhead. You can post all the videos you want, I've played all 3 games and my mind is set. IDK why PC gamers have such a hard time accepting some of us like 2 the best.

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[QUOTE="devious742"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Graphics may be worse, but the rest is better than the first 2 "tech demos..... I mean games. millerlight89

While Crysis 2 may have greater set pieces... it's no where near as great as Crysis 1'

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I'm sorry, I still think Crysis 2 is a better game than Crysis and Crysis Warhead. You can post all the videos you want, I've played all 3 games and my mind is set. IDK why PC gamers have such a hard time accepting some of us like 2 the best.

IDK why some people call Crysis 1 a "tech demo" kinda makes them sound ignorant and end up sounding like they dont what they are talking about .. nothing wrong with liking crysis 2... just dont spout non-sense

For me its

  1. Crysis
  2. Warhead
  3. Crysis 2
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#42 DreamCryotank
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Graphics may be worse, but the rest is better than the first 2 "tech demos..... I mean games. devious742

While Crysis 2 may have greater set pieces... it's no where near as great as Crysis 1'

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:lol: That second video is great. Crysis 1 is definitely a better game, but Crysis 2s level design is much better imo. Crysis 1 has alot more possibilities, but sometimes there's just too much hassle to accomplish them (like Bioshock 1), while Crysis 2 is just constantly epic in the later levels.

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#43 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Graphics may be worse, but the rest is better than the first 2 "tech demos..... I mean games. devious742

While Crysis 2 may have greater set pieces... it's no where near as great as Crysis 1'

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You can play pretty much just like that in Crysis 2. You just need to get down the timing of power mode.
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#44 LookAnDrolL
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[QUOTE="devious742"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Graphics may be worse, but the rest is better than the first 2 "tech demos..... I mean games. millerlight89

While Crysis 2 may have greater set pieces... it's no where near as great as Crysis 1'

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I'm sorry, I still think Crysis 2 is a better game than Crysis and Crysis Warhead. You can post all the videos you want, I've played all 3 games and my mind is set. IDK why PC gamers have such a hard time accepting some of us like 2 the best.

9.5 > 8.5
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[QUOTE="Ikuto_Tsukiyomi"]

[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

look at the destruction...shooting the building the rubble/falling parts. We don't have that in the final version. soapandbubbles

Not that it's a big deal, but when you shoot at the glass, it doesn't shatter. It just cracks. And if you shoot at more than two areas, the one before will disappear. NEW GLASS! :P Destructible parts of the environment was talked about until the later months and I'm pretty surprised that it wasn't included at all. I love how they completely swept everything under the rug. Don't get me wrong, I like Crysis 2 for what it is. It's a fun game, but to call it a PC-minded game or PC game built ground up is a complete falsification of the truth. :P

Crysis 2 should win "Bullet droppings Graphics King!"

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I hate to say it, but console hardware is to blame. Anyone that argues that is in complete denial.

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Jesus did you draw those on the floor?

lol i saw that in the game! i cant believe how horrible it looked! now those bullets are the real crysis!
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#46 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="devious742"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Graphics may be worse, but the rest is better than the first 2 "tech demos..... I mean games. DreamCryotank

While Crysis 2 may have greater set pieces... it's no where near as great as Crysis 1'

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:lol: That second video is great. Crysis 1 is definitely a better game, but Crysis 2s level design is much better imo. Crysis 1 has alot more possibilities, but sometimes there's just too much hassle to accomplish them (like Bioshock 1), while Crysis 2 is just constantly epic in the later levels.

Yeah, that was pretty damn awesome LOL.
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#47 lucfonzy
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This interview was running through my mind as I booted up Crysis 2 for the first time, and one of the first things I did when I got out in the open was shoot at the windows... I was disappointed... :( I'm starting to realise how much different Crysis 2 is from the first, almost feels like a new IP. I completed Crysis 1 again just before I got Crysis 2 to get myself up to speed, and I started on warhead, guess I'll go back to it after I finish with number 2. Still a great game nevertheless.
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#48 Phazevariance
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Now beside the fact that it has been given the console treatment with textures..if you remember the FIRST look of crysis 2 with the dev interivew...you will see that initually the game should have had much more physics/destruction..shown in this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yyic8XeFE44

Sadly this was removed..most likely because the console couldn't handle it with some other newly added effects overtime during dev or something.

Thoughts?

soapandbubbles

... perhaps you're forgetting the DX11 patch coming out for the PC version. Do you think nothing will change with that patch except the version of DX it uses? Lol... PC is about ti have its graphics king pumped up.

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#49 mitu123
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2D bullets? Even the original had 3D bullets, what happened?

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#50 mitu123
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Whatever happened to the day/night cycle for this game???

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The 360 version happened. :(

Even though it runs worse and has a lower res on PS3?