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#51 naval
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[QUOTE="naval"]Getting quite desperate I seedracula_16

The only person desperate in this thread is you. I thoroughly explained why ES > Crysis graphically where as youseem too narrow minded to take to heart what I am saying.

not funny, try harder next time

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#52 dracula_16
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[QUOTE="dracula_16"]

[QUOTE="naval"]Getting quite desperate I seenaval

The only person desperate in this thread is you. I thoroughly explained why ES > Crysis graphically where as youseem too narrow minded to take to heart what I am saying.

not funny, try harder next time

I was never hoping to make anyone laugh. You have yet to explain why I come across as desperate which means you are drowning in your own bias like your sig confirms.

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#53 -KinGz-
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Eternal sonata = major drooling.

Crysis = major drooling.

Seriously, stop arguing and just buy both games for christs sake.

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#54 Vandalvideo
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You can disagree all day, that doesn't make you right. Art is something thats defined by unifying motifs expressed technically. Just because something looks better doesn't make it art. Thats not to say it looks bad persay, it may be more aesthetically pleasing. Art is an entirely different beast. Take a look at the game Saboteur, it represents a unifying motif: Film Noire:  That is art. Eternal Sonata, isn't. Just take an art appreciation class in college to learn these basics.
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#55 hamstergeddon
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welcome to the list. ]jack_russel

So how would one go about getting on that list...
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#56 dracula_16
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Eternal sonata = major drooling.

Crysis = major drooling.

Seriously, stop arguing and just buy both games for christs sake.

-KinGz-

Not everyone is made of money.

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#57 turgore
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You are making lemmings look bad!!!
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#58 FLAMEINSANE
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[QUOTE="Olidsc"]I must say, I am really impressed you managed to rack up close to 4200 joke posts and still have people take you seriously.dracula_16

Generally I am serious but I do have a sense of humor. This thread is comepletely serious I hope you know. You will never have half the credibility that I have achieved.

:lol: I'm sorry, but that was toooooo funny. As nice as ES looks, making an *** of yourself doesn't help prove your point.

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#59 osan0
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artistically is all opinion. from a technical standpoint, crysis is king and will be for...ohhh 15 seconds (rate of progress in games and hardware and all that :P).

however artistically, imho at least, okami look alot better than every next gen game u care to mention...and thats on PS2. okami is just so beautiful to look at and a pleasure on the eyes. i cant think of a single game among the wii, 360 and PS3 that looks as good as that game from an artistic point of view...and itll probably be a very long time before one pops up.

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#60 naval
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[QUOTE="naval"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]

[QUOTE="naval"]Getting quite desperate I seedracula_16

The only person desperate in this thread is you. I thoroughly explained why ES > Crysis graphically where as youseem too narrow minded to take to heart what I am saying.

not funny, try harder next time

I was never hoping to make anyone laugh. You have yet to explain why I come across as desperate which means you are drowning in your own bias like your sig confirms.

usig a weak argument regarding your personal preferance to downplay a game is like clinging to straws

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#61 irmeleeman5995
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What's so special about ES's graphics? They're half assed anime style with very little technical detail showing through that at all.
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#62 dracula_16
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You can disagree all day, that doesn't make you right. Art is something thats defined by unifying motifs expressed technically. Just because something looks better doesn't make it art. Thats not to say it looks bad persay, it may be more aesthetically pleasing. Art is an entirely different beast. Take a look at the game Saboteur, it represents a unifying motif: Film Noire: That is art. Eternal Sonata, isn't. Just take an art appreciation class in college to learn these basics.Vandalvideo

Ok I take back what I said. You are just another elitist who is made uneasy by my posts. You do not determine what is and what isn't art. Run along now. I'm sure you have a video card or something to upgrade.

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#63 Meu2k7
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I'm still waiting for an explanation on how an Art Style makes the most Technically advanced game to date outdated.... guess I wont be getting it, not that I was expecting it :lol:
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#64 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]You can disagree all day, that doesn't make you right. Art is something thats defined by unifying motifs expressed technically. Just because something looks better doesn't make it art. Thats not to say it looks bad persay, it may be more aesthetically pleasing. Art is an entirely different beast. Take a look at the game Saboteur, it represents a unifying motif: Film Noire: That is art. Eternal Sonata, isn't. Just take an art appreciation class in college to learn these basics.dracula_16

Ok I take back what I said. You are just another elitist who is made uneasy by my posts. You do not determine what is and what isn't art. Run along now. I'm sure you have a video card or something to upgrade.

Actually, what is and isn't art is defined by the liberal arts community under strict guidelines. Art is SUPPOSED to follow motifs. Got it? Good. Motifs can range from a myriad of different themes. Without these and other featuers, it isn't art.
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#65 -Karmum-
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Two different types of graphics. Realsitic and cartoonish/artisitic.

/thread

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#66 naval
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[QUOTE="Olidsc"]I must say, I am really impressed you managed to rack up close to 4200 joke posts and still have people take you seriously.dracula_16

Generally I am serious but I do have a sense of humor. This thread is comepletely serious I hope you know. You will never have half the credibility that I have achieved.

:lol: now this i found funny

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]You can disagree all day, that doesn't make you right. Art is something thats defined by unifying motifs expressed technically. Just because something looks better doesn't make it art. Thats not to say it looks bad persay, it may be more aesthetically pleasing. Art is an entirely different beast. Take a look at the game Saboteur, it represents a unifying motif: Film Noire: That is art. Eternal Sonata, isn't. Just take an art appreciation class in college to learn these basics.dracula_16

Ok I take back what I said. You are just another elitist who is made uneasy by my posts. You do not determine what is and what isn't art. Run along now. I'm sure you have a video card or something to upgrade.

You use the word "elitist" to insult someone, but your the one who's saying everyone's opinions are wrong and that you are right.

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#68 groudyogre
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:lol: This is a joke thread.
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#69 dracula_16
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I'm still waiting for an explanation on how an Art Style makes the most Technically advanced game to date outdated.... guess I wont be getting it, not that I was expecting it :lol:Meu2k7

I was being bombarded with jealous hermits so I must have missed it. My bad.

Like I said, Technical graphics are pointless if it's unoriginal. Crysis is such a game. It's just another Far Cry clone with shiny leaves.

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#70 dracula_16
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:lol: This is a joke thread.groudyogre

No it's too complex for you to understand if you think it's a joke.

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#71 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]I'm still waiting for an explanation on how an Art Style makes the most Technically advanced game to date outdated.... guess I wont be getting it, not that I was expecting it :lol:dracula_16

I was being bombarded with jealous hermits so I must have missed it. My bad.

Like I said, Technical graphics are pointless if it's unoriginal. Crysis is such a game. It's just another Far Cry clone with shiny leaves.

... so are Photographs outdated? Is film outdated? They are also "Unoriginal" ... seriosly, realistic is never un-original, until the day where it mirrors real life, if ever.

And you havnt even played Crysis, Halo 3 is just Halo 2 with "Shiny pigmy aliens" a shorter singleplayer and 10x worse Multiplayer maps....

Bioshock is just System shock with shiny Unreal 3 effects anda different theme ... dumbed down so that a 2 year old could complete it.

We could twist this all day.

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#72 groudyogre
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[QUOTE="jack_russel"]welcome to the list. ]hamstergeddon

So how would one go about getting on that list...

I was the cause of that list. ANd the first one on it 8) Ohh riiight :D

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#73 cobrax25
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]I'm still waiting for an explanation on how an Art Style makes the most Technically advanced game to date outdated.... guess I wont be getting it, not that I was expecting it :lol:dracula_16

I was being bombarded with jealous hermits so I must have missed it. My bad.

Like I said, Technical graphics are pointless if it's unoriginal. Crysis is such a game. It's just another Far Cry clone with shiny leaves.

how can it possiblly be a farcry clone if its made by the same developers.....

and what game has even tried to do what farcry has....

also...I can tell you havent played crysis...because it plays very differently then farcry...

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#74 Re5ident_Evil
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While I don't agree about Eternal Sonata being better, I do however agree that the Jungle theme is completely boring, its like Crytek can't do anything but make jungle settings. But you know PC Fans, they are easily impressed.
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#75 dracula_16
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Two different types of graphics. Realsitic and cartoonish/artisitic.

/thread

-Karmum-

Congrats captain obvious, you managedto only look at the screenshots. Why don't you try again and this time read my whole first post.

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#76 Llama_713
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B-b-b-ut crysis is for teh pc! think about teh more powahz!
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#77 Dreams-Visions
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TC...you're a funny guy.
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#78 flclempire
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jrpg nuts always cell phone themselves :P
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#79 Meu2k7
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TC...you're a funny guy.Dreams-Visions

:lol: your sigs are always awesome.

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#80 -Karmum-
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[QUOTE="-Karmum-"]

Two different types of graphics. Realsitic and cartoonish/artisitic.

/thread

dracula_16

Congrats captain obvious, you managedto only look at the screenshots. Why don't you try again and this time read my whole first post.

Maybe you should actually reword your topic, so it's not misleading. I did read your post by the way.

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#81 dracula_16
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jrpg nuts always cell phone themselves :Pflclempire

You're calling me a JRPG fanboy? :lol: oh my goodness. The only jrpg I like is pokemon.

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#82 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="flclempire"]jrpg nuts always cell phone themselves :Pdracula_16

You're calling me a JRPG fanboy? :lol: oh my goodness. The only jrpg I like is pokemon.

Thats even worse...

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#83 naval
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]I'm still waiting for an explanation on how an Art Style makes the most Technically advanced game to date outdated.... guess I wont be getting it, not that I was expecting it :lol:dracula_16

I was being bombarded with jealous hermits so I must have missed it. My bad.

Like I said, Technical graphics are pointless if it's unoriginal. Crysis is such a game. It's just another Far Cry clone with shiny leaves.

so, ES graphics are original ?? its the same as so many of the animes out there

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#84 tonythestudent
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I rate this thread, failure out of 10
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#85 dracula_16
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[QUOTE="dracula_16"]

[QUOTE="flclempire"]jrpg nuts always cell phone themselves :PMeu2k7

You're calling me a JRPG fanboy? :lol: oh my goodness. The only jrpg I like is pokemon.

Thats even worse...

I couldn't care less what you think about my tastes. Your putrid elitist attitude is blinding you from being open minded.

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#86 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]TC...you're a funny guy.Meu2k7

:lol: your sigs are always awesome.

I actually edited that gif myself :)

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#87 nytrospawn
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Its true that the art style for Crysis is craptastical. But, Eternal Sonata wasnt that great of a game either.
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#88 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="dracula_16"]

[QUOTE="flclempire"]jrpg nuts always cell phone themselves :Pdracula_16

You're calling me a JRPG fanboy? :lol: oh my goodness. The only jrpg I like is pokemon.

Thats even worse...

I couldn't care less what you think about my tastes. Your putrid elitist attitude is blinding you from being open minded.

And yet you expect me to care that you think ES makes Crysis outdated in your eyes even though nobody is agreeing?

I love Irony.

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#89 VendettaRed07
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in that case super mario galaxy looks better than crysis also
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#90 Meu2k7
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in that case super mario galaxy looks better than crysis alsoVendettaRed07

Ofcourse not mate, if its not on the 360 he wont sport it... duh.

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#91 Haee
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]You can disagree all day, that doesn't make you right. Art is something thats defined by unifying motifs expressed technically. Just because something looks better doesn't make it art. Thats not to say it looks bad persay, it may be more aesthetically pleasing. Art is an entirely different beast. Take a look at the game Saboteur, it represents a unifying motif: Film Noire: That is art. Eternal Sonata, isn't. Just take an art appreciation class in college to learn these basics.dracula_16

Ok I take back what I said. You are just another elitist who is made uneasy by my posts. You do not determine what is and what isn't art. Run along now. I'm sure you have a video card or something to upgrade.

Your unable to comprehend the definition of art (Proof in the fact that you cant reply properly to Vandal's post). In fact your almost as hot-headed as any elitist hermit making a rather brashgeneralization towards PC gamers ("I'm sure you have a video card or something to upgrade"..haha?).

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#92 voxware00
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sorry

i thought next gen was about power, not just what looks prettier according to some

crysis is easily a more impressive beast in motion than es

achieving realism is a little more ambitious than style, but i still respect vivid games

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#93 mismajor99
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The OP certainly hasn't seen Crysis in motion, it's breathtaking to say the least. Crysis is the crown of FPS's, not of all genres, but it's certainly the creme de la creme of shooters, and by a very long shot too. I can't believe people aren't giving them credit, these guys not only made a technically amazing looking game, it looks like they did an excellent job in game mechanics, gameplay, character and story building as well just off the top of my head. The demo is by far the best demo I've played in years, no kidding. It's about 45 minutes of pure heaven, with the best looking facial animations yet to be seen on this planet. I thought Mass Effect had pretty facial animations, Crysis is just that much more impressive, it's simply amazing.
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#94 The_Ish
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Cel-Shading is less resource intesive then putting up and placing textures all in the right place, so no, Eternal Sonata does not defeat Crysis in the technical standpoint.

At an artistic standpoint...it's up to the gamer to decide which one he/she prefers...after all, art is subjective.

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]TC...you're a funny guy.Meu2k7

:lol: your sigs are always awesome.

My sig no awesome too?

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#96 t3hTwinky
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This makes no sense.

You're saying that Crysis' graphics are "outdated" by way of your not-so-humble opinion thatEternal Sonata's art style is better than Crysis?

When you have tobring up that lame "art style" trump card in a graphics battle, you've already lost.

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#97 mismajor99
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]TC...you're a funny guy.Pro_wrestler

:lol: your sigs are always awesome.

My sig no awesome too?

All you would have to do is crop out master chiefs head and put in Gordon Freeman, and yo have my vote!! :P

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#98 Pro_wrestler
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Lets all just back of TC. What he meant was that he thinks Eternal Sonata is more beautiful than Crysis.
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#99 Meu2k7
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Lets all just back of TC. What he meant was that he thinks Eternal Sonata is more beautiful than Crysis.Pro_wrestler

What he meant was, "Its not on the 360 so lets compare it to something retarded to start an arguement." and he suceeded, so he gets a cookie.

Btw yea, your sig is good :P

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#100 horrowhip
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If you say that Crysis doesn't have an art-style, Game Artists around the world will start crying... Game Art is complex. ES has a CLEAR, easy to recognize art-style but that doesn't make its art-style any better than Crysis. Crytek had artists working hours on end sculpting, tweaking and modifying the map to make it look as good as it could. The canyon leading up to Lusca's Call at the end of the demo is a good example of tweaking the terrain to make it look great if you look back. First Light created that moment of awe and wonder. That was a true "Kodak" moment and thats art. Seeing as it was just the introductory level, I am sure we will see even more artistic moments as we move along, specifically the Ice and Core levels.