Crysis has been matched if not Surpassed!

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Nameless-Hero"]

thats right i said it, Farcry 2 has equeled Crysis graphically if not surpassed it in some areas. it has a better lighting system, better physics engine, its more destructable and its coming to the XBOX 360 and Playstation 3. if this game is not downgraded on consoles will hermits admit that Crysis was possible on consoles all along. thanks to new compression technology they can fit much more vegetation on screen than befor without using much memory, and the 360 and PS3 have more than enough cpu and GPU muscle to handle the engine.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30936.html

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30927.html

Nameless-Hero

Prove them.

You cant?

Surprise surprise.

Crysis possible on consoles - even Crytek disagrees with you.

Prove it.

You cant?

Surprise Surprise.

ITs as if you desperatley want a game that is of Crysis level on consoles, and will scream every second a game seems to come close.

Even convincing yourself the 360 or PS3 can run Crysis is a laughable stance.

typical hermit cant see past his computer moniter, as i have already said the weather system is more advanced, vegetation is burnable moving realistically with the wind, actual tree branches are destructable and almost every leaf, and the lighting effects look better imo no way to really convince you.

surprise surprise what are u 10? lol

1. You haven't proven anything.

2. You'd better be ashamed - if what you say is true, a 10 year old has better grammar than you.

3. For your info, Skrat_01 is 18.

[QUOTE="Nameless-Hero"]

typical hermit cant see past his computer moniter, as i have already said the weather system is more advanced, vegetation is burnable moving realistically with the wind, actual tree branches are destructable and almost every leaf, and the lighting effects look better imo no way to really convince you.

surprise surprise what are u 10? lol

Lonelynight

Do you have proof that it will all look like that when it is release?

well if anything it will only look much better as more advanced hardware is released, ya know thats usually how game development goes along and the graphics are most likely still not polished

typical hermit cant see past his computer moniter, as i have already said the weather system is more advanced, vegetation is burnable moving realistically with the wind, actual tree branches are destructable and almost every leaf, and the lighting effects look better imo no way to really convince you.

surprise surprise what are u 10? lol

Nameless-Hero

In that case your just a typical fanboy who convinces themselves what are the facts, rather than realising them.

-Yes they have said the Weather system is advanced. Have we seen it in the final version? No.We have seen wind.

-Have we seen how destuctible the enviroments are - you said it is moreso than Crysis. No. We have seen trees and break just like with Crysis, and grass burn. No full physics driven complex destructible objects - like houses - which Crysis has.

-Is the lighting system more advanced. From the screens clearly not. Playing Crysis or looking at Crysis screens confirms that.

Looking at the basis of your 'facts', you seem like prettty immature to me. :|

'Lolz Crysis is beatenz and can be done on teh consolez i knowz so'

:|

The game isnt even out yet, and you are already spouting a bunch of nonsense.

Prove me wrong, and support your information.

Can you?

[QUOTE="Nameless-Hero"][QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Nameless-Hero"]

thats right i said it, Farcry 2 has equeled Crysis graphically if not surpassed it in some areas. it has a better lighting system, better physics engine, its more destructable and its coming to the XBOX 360 and Playstation 3. if this game is not downgraded on consoles will hermits admit that Crysis was possible on consoles all along. thanks to new compression technology they can fit much more vegetation on screen than befor without using much memory, and the 360 and PS3 have more than enough cpu and GPU muscle to handle the engine.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30936.html

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30927.html

aliblabla2007

Prove them.

You cant?

Surprise surprise.

Crysis possible on consoles - even Crytek disagrees with you.

Prove it.

You cant?

Surprise Surprise.

ITs as if you desperatley want a game that is of Crysis level on consoles, and will scream every second a game seems to come close.

Even convincing yourself the 360 or PS3 can run Crysis is a laughable stance.

typical hermit cant see past his computer moniter, as i have already said the weather system is more advanced, vegetation is burnable moving realistically with the wind, actual tree branches are destructable and almost every leaf, and the lighting effects look better imo no way to really convince you.

surprise surprise what are u 10? lol

1. You haven't proven anything.

2. You'd better be ashamed - if what you say is true, a 10 year old has better grammar than you.

3. For your info, Skrat_01 is 18.

ah the ol grammer comeback i would have thought you would have something better than that but then i guess i misjudged you, o well i suppose ownage is complete.

Who gives a **** about graphics? This game sounds fivehundredandtwentysix tons more interesting in terms of everything else. InsaneBasura

What Ubisoft has said about the gameplay is much more interesting.

It doesn't look anywhere near as good as Crysis. Dunia's greatest assets are gameplay-enchancing features, not the graphical quality.

Oh..and if you think console versions will look anywhere near as good as PC version you're in denial.

AdrianWerner

No you're in denial of the power of the Xbox 360 and PS3! :x

[QUOTE="Nameless-Hero"]

typical hermit cant see past his computer moniter, as i have already said the weather system is more advanced, vegetation is burnable moving realistically with the wind, actual tree branches are destructable and almost every leaf, and the lighting effects look better imo no way to really convince you.

surprise surprise what are u 10? lol

skrat_01

In that case your just a typical fanboy who convinces themselves what are the facts, rather than realising them.

-Yes they have said the Weather system is advanced. Have we seen it in the final version? No.We have seen wind.

-Have we seen how destuctible the enviroments are - you said it is moreso than Crysis. No. We have seen trees and break just like with Crysis, and grass burn. No full physics driven complex destructible objects - like houses.

-Is the lighting system more advanced. From the screens clearly not. Playing Crysis or looking at Crysis screens confirms that.

Looking at the basis of your 'facts', you seem like prettty immature to me. :|

'Lolz Crysis is beatenz and can be done on teh consolez i knowz so'

:|

The game isnt even out yet, and you are already spouting a bunch of nonsense.

im not the one who thinks the godly Crysis is unsurpassable graphically when it is. and if you think those paper thin shacks in crysis is a house then lol thats not really hard to manipulate. and you prove my point in that this game is not even out yet so most likely the graphics are not final, we already know what retail Crysis looks like.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Nameless-Hero"]

typical hermit cant see past his computer moniter, as i have already said the weather system is more advanced, vegetation is burnable moving realistically with the wind, actual tree branches are destructable and almost every leaf, and the lighting effects look better imo no way to really convince you.

surprise surprise what are u 10? lol

Nameless-Hero

In that case your just a typical fanboy who convinces themselves what are the facts, rather than realising them.

-Yes they have said the Weather system is advanced. Have we seen it in the final version? No.We have seen wind.

-Have we seen how destuctible the enviroments are - you said it is moreso than Crysis. No. We have seen trees and break just like with Crysis, and grass burn. No full physics driven complex destructible objects - like houses.

-Is the lighting system more advanced. From the screens clearly not. Playing Crysis or looking at Crysis screens confirms that.

Looking at the basis of your 'facts', you seem like prettty immature to me. :|

'Lolz Crysis is beatenz and can be done on teh consolez i knowz so'

:|

The game isnt even out yet, and you are already spouting a bunch of nonsense.

im not the one who thinks the godly Crysis is unsurpassable graphically when it is. and if you think those paper thin shacks in crysis is a house then lol thats not really hard to manipulate. and you prove my point in that this game is not even out yet so most likely the graphics are not final, we already know what retail Crysis looks like.

You suck at debating

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Nameless-Hero"]

typical hermit cant see past his computer moniter, as i have already said the weather system is more advanced, vegetation is burnable moving realistically with the wind, actual tree branches are destructable and almost every leaf, and the lighting effects look better imo no way to really convince you.

surprise surprise what are u 10? lol

Nameless-Hero

In that case your just a typical fanboy who convinces themselves what are the facts, rather than realising them.

-Yes they have said the Weather system is advanced. Have we seen it in the final version? No.We have seen wind.

-Have we seen how destuctible the enviroments are - you said it is moreso than Crysis. No. We have seen trees and break just like with Crysis, and grass burn. No full physics driven complex destructible objects - like houses.

-Is the lighting system more advanced. From the screens clearly not. Playing Crysis or looking at Crysis screens confirms that.

Looking at the basis of your 'facts', you seem like prettty immature to me. :|

'Lolz Crysis is beatenz and can be done on teh consolez i knowz so'

:|

The game isnt even out yet, and you are already spouting a bunch of nonsense.

im not the one who thinks the godly Crysis is unsurpassable graphically when it is. and if you think those paper thin shacks in crysis is a house then lol thats not really hard to manipulate. and you prove my point in that this game is not even out yet so most likely the graphics are not final, we already know what retail Crysis looks like.

And no the Houses in Crysis are the most complex destructible objects currently in an FPS - filled with objects like a house would - each with their own independant phsysics.

And the visuals arent final so we dont know how good it will look upon release, let alone how the console version will be like.

As I said, all you are doing is saying 'Far Cry 2 is betta' without even backing up your claims.

Visually it clearly isnt, may it change upon release and be better? Well there is the possibility of that of course (though technically speaking you could only compare the PC versions). As for gameplay, well there isnt much to show of it, but it sounds promising.
Big difference is while Crysis has been out for 3 and a half months -and everything to argue about it is there, Far Cry 2 arguments rely on just deveopers words - and a few screens + videos..

[QUOTE="Nameless-Hero"][QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Nameless-Hero"]

typical hermit cant see past his computer moniter, as i have already said the weather system is more advanced, vegetation is burnable moving realistically with the wind, actual tree branches are destructable and almost every leaf, and the lighting effects look better imo no way to really convince you.

surprise surprise what are u 10? lol

Lonelynight

In that case your just a typical fanboy who convinces themselves what are the facts, rather than realising them.

-Yes they have said the Weather system is advanced. Have we seen it in the final version? No.We have seen wind.

-Have we seen how destuctible the enviroments are - you said it is moreso than Crysis. No. We have seen trees and break just like with Crysis, and grass burn. No full physics driven complex destructible objects - like houses.

-Is the lighting system more advanced. From the screens clearly not. Playing Crysis or looking at Crysis screens confirms that.

Looking at the basis of your 'facts', you seem like prettty immature to me. :|

'Lolz Crysis is beatenz and can be done on teh consolez i knowz so'

:|

The game isnt even out yet, and you are already spouting a bunch of nonsense.

im not the one who thinks the godly Crysis is unsurpassable graphically when it is. and if you think those paper thin shacks in crysis is a house then lol thats not really hard to manipulate. and you prove my point in that this game is not even out yet so most likely the graphics are not final, we already know what retail Crysis looks like.

You suck at debating

says the master:lol: go back to playing call of duty or something

Ugh...

I hate how people default to saying that games look better and better as development goes on. That's true to an extent, but virtually every graphics powerhouse released recently has come to market not looking quite as good as promised, Crysis included.

Graphically, Crysis is superior. Period. Those screenshots and videos don't impress me after playing through Crysis, frankly. There's a certain quality it has, from the (as mentioned) ridiculously high-res textures to the high poly counts to the bump mapped everything, etc... You need to see it in motion. It seems some would like to blur the line between graphics and other features, but out of that video the only thing that really impressed me was the branches being blown around (granted, the fire spreading feature looks very interesting too).

That's not to say Far Cry 2 won't look good, or that Crysis is the better game... I like the concept behind FC2 a hell of a lot better... But graphics-wise, there is no comparison.

Let's not gloss over the fact that PC's have been far more powerful than consoles since before the PS3 launch... No amount of code optimization is going to change that. Crysis, as it is now, is not possible on consoles without compromises.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

It doesn't look anywhere near as good as Crysis. Dunia's greatest assets are gameplay-enchancing features, not the graphical quality.

Oh..and if you think console versions will look anywhere near as good as PC version you're in denial.

FrozenLiquid

You realize that you can manipulate the engine to change wind speed which also affects how trees sway, change the weather; rain can actually cause props to become wet including vegetation, and increase wind speed during gameplay. Time of day cycles can be changed so that the sun rises and sets and it can go on for an endless cycle, also clouds can be added that move with the direction of the wind

All of this can be done within the editor. I have played around with the settings, myself.

says the master:lol: go back to playing call of duty or something

Nameless-Hero

I got bored with Call of Duty, and I suck at debating, thats why I don't debate

man are hermits going nuts in this thread. i love it. :DItalStallion777

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Nameless-Hero"]

typical hermit cant see past his computer moniter, as i have already said the weather system is more advanced, vegetation is burnable moving realistically with the wind, actual tree branches are destructable and almost every leaf, and the lighting effects look better imo no way to really convince you.

surprise surprise what are u 10? lol

Nameless-Hero

In that case your just a typical fanboy who convinces themselves what are the facts, rather than realising them.

-Yes they have said the Weather system is advanced. Have we seen it in the final version? No.We have seen wind.

-Have we seen how destuctible the enviroments are - you said it is moreso than Crysis. No. We have seen trees and break just like with Crysis, and grass burn. No full physics driven complex destructible objects - like houses.

-Is the lighting system more advanced. From the screens clearly not. Playing Crysis or looking at Crysis screens confirms that.

Looking at the basis of your 'facts', you seem like prettty immature to me. :|

'Lolz Crysis is beatenz and can be done on teh consolez i knowz so'

:|

The game isnt even out yet, and you are already spouting a bunch of nonsense.

im not the one who thinks the godly Crysis is unsurpassable graphically when it is. and if you think those paper thin shacks in crysis is a house then lol thats not really hard to manipulate. and you prove my point in that this game is not even out yet so most likely the graphics are not final, we already know what retail Crysis looks like.

Sigh.. Buildings can be created that are completely destructable. In fact, they already have been by a member of the mod community. Please don't speak if you know nothing about the actual engine. Observe:

man are hermits going nuts in this thread. i love it. :DItalStallion777

The problem is people making ridiculous claims without backing them up... I can't imagine how anyone could say Far Cry 2 compares to Crysis graphically, and yet threads like this pop up all the time. Maybe I'm biased, but I don't notice that same BS in the other direction.

Ugh...

I hate how people default to saying that games look better and better as development goes on. That's true to an extent, but virtually every graphics powerhouse released recently has come to market not looking quite as good as promised, Crysis included.

Graphically, Crysis is superior. Period. Those screenshots and videos don't impress me after playing through Crysis, frankly. There's a certain quality it has, from the (as mentioned) ridiculously high-res textures to the high poly counts to the bump mapped everything, etc... You need to see it in motion. It seems some would like to blur the line between graphics and other features, but out of that video the only thing that really impressed me was the branches being blown around (granted, the fire spreading feature looks very interesting too).

That's not to say Far Cry 2 won't look good, or that Crysis is the better game... I like the concept behind FC2 a hell of a lot better... But graphics-wise, there is no comparison.

Let's not gloss over the fact that PC's have been far more powerful than consoles since before the PS3 launch... No amount of code optimization is going to change that. Crysis, as it is now, is not possible on consoles without compromises.

NYHoustonman

while i agree with most of what u are saying, i still don't see how you can say that graphics wise there is no comparison?

how is this not close?

[QUOTE="cobrax25"]

and I have seen nothing to sugest that farcry 2 will be more destructable...or that it will look anything like that on a console.

FrozenLiquid

Just as a critique, crysis also has destructable vehicles and structures. Have we seen destrucability of those types of things in farcry 2 yet? That beats crysis?

[QUOTE="Nameless-Hero"][QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Nameless-Hero"]

typical hermit cant see past his computer moniter, as i have already said the weather system is more advanced, vegetation is burnable moving realistically with the wind, actual tree branches are destructable and almost every leaf, and the lighting effects look better imo no way to really convince you.

surprise surprise what are u 10? lol

DragonfireXZ95

In that case your just a typical fanboy who convinces themselves what are the facts, rather than realising them.

-Yes they have said the Weather system is advanced. Have we seen it in the final version? No.We have seen wind.

-Have we seen how destuctible the enviroments are - you said it is moreso than Crysis. No. We have seen trees and break just like with Crysis, and grass burn. No full physics driven complex destructible objects - like houses.

-Is the lighting system more advanced. From the screens clearly not. Playing Crysis or looking at Crysis screens confirms that.

Looking at the basis of your 'facts', you seem like prettty immature to me. :|

'Lolz Crysis is beatenz and can be done on teh consolez i knowz so'

:|

The game isnt even out yet, and you are already spouting a bunch of nonsense.

im not the one who thinks the godly Crysis is unsurpassable graphically when it is. and if you think those paper thin shacks in crysis is a house then lol thats not really hard to manipulate. and you prove my point in that this game is not even out yet so most likely the graphics are not final, we already know what retail Crysis looks like.

Sigh.. Buildings can be created that are completely destructable. In fact, they already have been by a member of the mod community. Please don't speak if you know nothing about the actual engine. Observe:

is that supposed to be impressive or something? battlefield bad company,Brothers in Arms HH

Sigh.. Buildings can be created that are completely destructable. In fact, they already have been by a member of the mod community. Please don't speak if you know nothing about the actual engine. Observe:

DragonfireXZ95

Thats pretty impresive can give me a link?

[QUOTE="NYHoustonman"]

Ugh...

I hate how people default to saying that games look better and better as development goes on. That's true to an extent, but virtually every graphics powerhouse released recently has come to market not looking quite as good as promised, Crysis included.

Graphically, Crysis is superior. Period. Those screenshots and videos don't impress me after playing through Crysis, frankly. There's a certain quality it has, from the (as mentioned) ridiculously high-res textures to the high poly counts to the bump mapped everything, etc... You need to see it in motion. It seems some would like to blur the line between graphics and other features, but out of that video the only thing that really impressed me was the branches being blown around (granted, the fire spreading feature looks very interesting too).

That's not to say Far Cry 2 won't look good, or that Crysis is the better game... I like the concept behind FC2 a hell of a lot better... But graphics-wise, there is no comparison.

Let's not gloss over the fact that PC's have been far more powerful than consoles since before the PS3 launch... No amount of code optimization is going to change that. Crysis, as it is now, is not possible on consoles without compromises.

Nameless-Hero

while i agree with most of what u are saying, i still don't see how you can say that graphics wise there is no comparison?

how is this not close?

yes the xbox and PS3 version will look like that and thats TOTALLY the truth since PC cant run HD and do not support proper 4d gaming.... ugh

[QUOTE="Nameless-Hero"][QUOTE="NYHoustonman"]

Ugh...

I hate how people default to saying that games look better and better as development goes on. That's true to an extent, but virtually every graphics powerhouse released recently has come to market not looking quite as good as promised, Crysis included.

Graphically, Crysis is superior. Period. Those screenshots and videos don't impress me after playing through Crysis, frankly. There's a certain quality it has, from the (as mentioned) ridiculously high-res textures to the high poly counts to the bump mapped everything, etc... You need to see it in motion. It seems some would like to blur the line between graphics and other features, but out of that video the only thing that really impressed me was the branches being blown around (granted, the fire spreading feature looks very interesting too).

That's not to say Far Cry 2 won't look good, or that Crysis is the better game... I like the concept behind FC2 a hell of a lot better... But graphics-wise, there is no comparison.

Let's not gloss over the fact that PC's have been far more powerful than consoles since before the PS3 launch... No amount of code optimization is going to change that. Crysis, as it is now, is not possible on consoles without compromises.

kastanjekastere

while i agree with most of what u are saying, i still don't see how you can say that graphics wise there is no comparison?

how is this not close?

yes the xbox and PS3 version will look like that and thats TOTALLY the truth since PC cant run HD and do not support proper 4d gaming.... ugh

since when can the pc not run HD? i really hope u are not that Wok7 character

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="Nameless-Hero"][QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Nameless-Hero"]

typical hermit cant see past his computer moniter, as i have already said the weather system is more advanced, vegetation is burnable moving realistically with the wind, actual tree branches are destructable and almost every leaf, and the lighting effects look better imo no way to really convince you.

surprise surprise what are u 10? lol

Nameless-Hero

In that case your just a typical fanboy who convinces themselves what are the facts, rather than realising them.

-Yes they have said the Weather system is advanced. Have we seen it in the final version? No.We have seen wind.

-Have we seen how destuctible the enviroments are - you said it is moreso than Crysis. No. We have seen trees and break just like with Crysis, and grass burn. No full physics driven complex destructible objects - like houses.

-Is the lighting system more advanced. From the screens clearly not. Playing Crysis or looking at Crysis screens confirms that.

Looking at the basis of your 'facts', you seem like prettty immature to me. :|

'Lolz Crysis is beatenz and can be done on teh consolez i knowz so'

:|

The game isnt even out yet, and you are already spouting a bunch of nonsense.

im not the one who thinks the godly Crysis is unsurpassable graphically when it is. and if you think those paper thin shacks in crysis is a house then lol thats not really hard to manipulate. and you prove my point in that this game is not even out yet so most likely the graphics are not final, we already know what retail Crysis looks like.

Sigh.. Buildings can be created that are completely destructable. In fact, they already have been by a member of the mod community. Please don't speak if you know nothing about the actual engine. Observe:

is that supposed to be impressive or something? battlefield bad company,Brothers in Arms HH

Hahaha, that's a good joke. You think Brothers in Arms can match this? I just took these screens by the way.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

Sigh.. Buildings can be created that are completely destructable. In fact, they already have been by a member of the mod community. Please don't speak if you know nothing about the actual engine. Observe:

Lonelynight

Thats pretty impresive can give me a link?

http://www.crymod.com/thread.php?threadid=18673

There you go. :)

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

Sigh.. Buildings can be created that are completely destructable. In fact, they already have been by a member of the mod community. Please don't speak if you know nothing about the actual engine. Observe:

DragonfireXZ95

Thats pretty impresive can give me a link?

There you go. :)

Thank you

Dragonfire, are they going to add more detail to the buildings?Lonelynight

Yeah, this was created without the SDK. He is just showing us an example what will be doable with the SDK when they finally release it.

People are working on skyscrapers that are destructable, and the SDK allows modders to put skins on bricks and other things without having to export to 3DS and import it back and stuff like that. It's going to be big.

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]Dragonfire, are they going to add more detail to the buildings?DragonfireXZ95

Yeah, this was created without the SDK. He is just showing us an example what will be doable with the SDK when they finally release it.

People are working on skyscrapers that are destructable, and the SDK allows modders to put skins on bricks and other things without having to export to 3DS and import it back and stuff like that. It's going to be big.

I haven't heard news about the SDK for a while now, is there a release date for it?

frost engine works wonders on buildings

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]Dragonfire, are they going to add more detail to the buildings?Lonelynight

Yeah, this was created without the SDK. He is just showing us an example what will be doable with the SDK when they finally release it.

People are working on skyscrapers that are destructable, and the SDK allows modders to put skins on bricks and other things without having to export to 3DS and import it back and stuff like that. It's going to be big.

I haven't heard news about the SDK for a while now, is there a release date for it?

They said Patch 2. So whenever that comes out... And I haven't heard anything about it recently.

Oh and Ubisoft said they have no plans to release the SDK for Far Cry 2, only the map editor. So we can't expect any full conversions with the Dunia engine. :(

frost engine works wonders on buildings

Nameless-Hero

Looks decent, that's not the whole house though... That's only parts. Got any pics with the whole building blown down? And the photos appear to be doctored.

frost engine works wonders on buildings

Nameless-Hero

THe funny thins is that Silent Storm, a turn-based russian wargame from 2003 had it all, ragdolls, dynamic lighting and fylly desctructible terrain and enviorements (trly, you could bring down everything in any way you wanted, It was so ahead of it's time

[QUOTE="NYHoustonman"]

Ugh...

I hate how people default to saying that games look better and better as development goes on. That's true to an extent, but virtually every graphics powerhouse released recently has come to market not looking quite as good as promised, Crysis included.

Graphically, Crysis is superior. Period. Those screenshots and videos don't impress me after playing through Crysis, frankly. There's a certain quality it has, from the (as mentioned) ridiculously high-res textures to the high poly counts to the bump mapped everything, etc... You need to see it in motion. It seems some would like to blur the line between graphics and other features, but out of that video the only thing that really impressed me was the branches being blown around (granted, the fire spreading feature looks very interesting too).

That's not to say Far Cry 2 won't look good, or that Crysis is the better game... I like the concept behind FC2 a hell of a lot better... But graphics-wise, there is no comparison.

Let's not gloss over the fact that PC's have been far more powerful than consoles since before the PS3 launch... No amount of code optimization is going to change that. Crysis, as it is now, is not possible on consoles without compromises.

Nameless-Hero

while i agree with most of what u are saying, i still don't see how you can say that graphics wise there is no comparison?

how is this not close?

When you spend as much time obsessing over graphics as I and a lot of other hardware enthusiasts do (too much, really), you tend to notice things. In general, everything I've seen from FC2 graphically looks similar to what I got out of STALKER, which isn't really a bad thing... there just isnt as much detail as far as polygon count and effects, texture size, etc. It's pretty noticeable in the video you linked in the original post; the draw distances are great but there just isn't as much detail overall (it may just be the video... it just doesn't jump out at me).

The first screenshot you've shown here looks pretty damned good, and if that's what the finished product looks like then great, but I'm not convinced from what I've seen (admittedly this is the first time I've seen that shot). The 'god rays' look a lot less natural than they do in Crysis, but that's probably a matter of opinion. The best I can say is that Crysis looks that good right now, and I sincerely doubt Far Cry 2 ends up looking like that considering whoever created that screenshot went through the trouble of eliminating all aliasing (that's usually a pretty good sign that a screenshot isn't exactly representative of the actual game).

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]Dragonfire, are they going to add more detail to the buildings?DragonfireXZ95

Yeah, this was created without the SDK. He is just showing us an example what will be doable with the SDK when they finally release it.

People are working on skyscrapers that are destructable, and the SDK allows modders to put skins on bricks and other things without having to export to 3DS and import it back and stuff like that. It's going to be big.

[QUOTE="Nameless-Hero"]

frost engine works wonders on buildings

DragonfireXZ95

Looks decent, that's not the whole house though... That's only parts. Got any pics with the whole building blown down? And the photos appear to be doctored.

watch the first video on destruction its pretty impressive for a console game

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/713/713943/vids_1.html

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]Dragonfire, are they going to add more detail to the buildings?DragonfireXZ95

Yeah, this was created without the SDK. He is just showing us an example what will be doable with the SDK when they finally release it.

People are working on skyscrapers that are destructable, and the SDK allows modders to put skins on bricks and other things without having to export to 3DS and import it back and stuff like that. It's going to be big.

I haven't heard news about the SDK for a while now, is there a release date for it?

They said Patch 2. So whenever that comes out... And I haven't heard anything about it recently.

Oh and Ubisoft said they have no plans to release the SDK for Far Cry 2, only the map editor. So we can't expect any full conversions with the Dunia engine. :(

Thanks for the info, maybe you can become the leader for our Union(Crysis Union) :P

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]Dragonfire, are they going to add more detail to the buildings?Lonelynight

Yeah, this was created without the SDK. He is just showing us an example what will be doable with the SDK when they finally release it.

People are working on skyscrapers that are destructable, and the SDK allows modders to put skins on bricks and other things without having to export to 3DS and import it back and stuff like that. It's going to be big.

I haven't heard news about the SDK for a while now, is there a release date for it?

They said Patch 2. So whenever that comes out... And I haven't heard anything about it recently.

Oh and Ubisoft said they have no plans to release the SDK for Far Cry 2, only the map editor. So we can't expect any full conversions with the Dunia engine. :(

Thanks for the info, maybe you can become the leader for our Union(Crysis Union) :P

Lol, I'll join the union but I don't really want to be a leader for now. Too busy to update things with my new job and a bunch of other stuff going on, but thanks for the offer. :)

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="Nameless-Hero"]

frost engine works wonders on buildings

Nameless-Hero

Looks decent, that's not the whole house though... That's only parts. Got any pics with the whole building blown down? And the photos appear to be doctored.

watch the first video on destruction its pretty impressive for a console game

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/713/713943/vids_1.html

Meh, it was kind of impressive, for a console at least... First off, when the buildings blow up, they have almost no physics and only parts of it can be destroyed. Secondly, the trees can only be cut down in the middle, you can't shoot off individual parts it looks like. The levels look linear and small, and the graphics aren't spectacular, but they are pretty good for a console. I would say that this is going to be near the level of Far Cry 2 on consoles.

All I'll say at this point is that Far Cry 2 will have a tall order to fill.

For those who think Crysis is unoptimized, remember that it has an extremely full plate. No other game has had to employ such universal physics on such a large level (over 600MB even on minimum settings) without requring a Physics Processor. To add even more physics complexity will only increase the load on the engine. Now, will PC technology be able to keep up? Depends on the timetable. Intel plans on octo-core desktop CPUs by 2010, and I'm sure nVidia and ATI won't be sitting still in the meantime. It may be possible, but allow a hermit a healthy dose of skepticism. It's still early, and to a hermit the proof is in the playable demo.

As for the consoles, don't expect the real McCoy to be on the consoles--unless you're talking next-generation consoles. Otherwise, RAM simply will not permit.

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It doesn't look anywhere near as good as Crysis. Dunia's greatest assets are gameplay-enchancing features, not the graphical quality.

Oh..and if you think console versions will look anywhere near as good as PC version you're in denial.

PS3_3DO

No you're in denial of the power of the Xbox 360 and PS3! :x

lmao teh powar of the 360 & ps3

the gameplay videos shown are all based on the pc .

so dont be suprised if the level of graphics on the consoles is dumbed down

watch the first video on destruction its pretty impressive for a console game

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/713/713943/vids_1.html

Nameless-Hero

Looks pretty, but it isn't technically impressive.

Buildings in the game are obviously made up of individual destructable components. You can only destroy individual objects or components of a larger object that are tagged as destructable (a wall segment of a building, for example.) Even then, the components don't break up realistically. They seem to mostly disappear and leave behind only a few scattered components.

It's large-scale scripted destructability - the scripted aspect is required in Battlefield: Bad Company to be implemented in multiplayer; fully dynamic destructability on that scale requires far too much network traffic and work from the server keeping clients synchronized with the gamestate.

Technically, Bad Company doesn't seem to compare to CryEngine 2 in the area of dynamic destructability potential.

Lol, I'll join the union but I don't really want to be a leader for now. Too busy to update things with my new job and a bunch of other stuff going on, but thanks for the offer. :)

DragonfireXZ95

The Union feels kinda dead now :(

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Lol, I'll join the union but I don't really want to be a leader for now. Too busy to update things with my new job and a bunch of other stuff going on, but thanks for the offer. :)

Lonelynight

The Union feels kinda dead now :(

Ah, well just join www.crymod.com and keep up to date there. They always post news on any updates concerning patches and mods.

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frost engine works wonders on buildings

DragonfireXZ95

Looks decent, that's not the whole house though... That's only parts. Got any pics with the whole building blown down? And the photos appear to be doctored.

You Hermits have been Pwnt! The power of the Xbox 360! Yeah Far Cry 2 looks on par with Crysis.