Crystal ball time: will the Switch 2 be a big hit in your opinion?

I’m going to say yes. Because all Nintendo needs to do is give us the Switch with better hardware. And also backwards compatibility which we believe will be the case. I can’t really see them screwing this up, just because they know how popular the Switch is. Am I rite, SW? Will Switch 2 be a big hit in your opinion?

If they make it fully backwards compatible then yes it will be a big hit.

It will be a big hit, yea.

Its also gonna be pathetically underpwered when compared to even the Steam Deck, which by then, will be years old. The price will be $399.99, and Nintendo ain't losing a cent on it, so expect extremely underpowered mobile specs.

Plot twist. They create a completely different gimmick and the console is no longer portable...

Who says they will make switch 2? Maybe they will make a different and innovative concept.

They have an uphill battle.

The Switch is a monster, especially in Japan. Why would Nintendo deviate too much from it?

If they play it safe and just make an upgraded Switch 2, yeah, it will be a big hit. But this is Nintendo. They may go all in on a whole new gimick, 4K buttons or something, and start from scratch. That could go either way.

No way it will be weaker than Steam Deck lol

Japan alone will ensure its a big hit even if most games are retreads

What do you mean? Nintendo doesn't care about visuals, frame rate, physics, or anything that improves your experience. And if you care about OLED, you won't get that on launch either.

Those saying that they might not go portable is kinda ridiculous. Portability is the only reason why they were sucessful this generation, and its pretty clear that those who want portable systems, they ain't tired of owning one, so all you gotta do is release a new system that is 30% stronger than the stwitch, call it switch 2, and the job here is done for the next 7-8 years.

When was the last time Nintendo had 2 hit consoles in a row? Watch them mess this up…

Yea, Japan loves their mobile..

The design of switch is very solid and i dont think requires much changes. The ability to play portable and dock imo is the best feature. My only complain with the current switch are the joycons. The analog sticks are atrocious to play with.

If I have one doubt it'll simply be because Nintendo appreciation seems to comes in nostalgia waves. It might not depend on whether it's a great system, or Nintendo evolves in the market, or whether it has a great line-up.

Sure the Switch did a lot to get back in good graces with gamers, primarily its formidable handheld-console hybrid design. But they simply lack in other areas with their online features, backwards compatibility being behind a subscription paywall, and not honoring digital entitlements tied to people's accounts with the VC games they picked up on other systems. Despite all that, they still did rather well.

There's a lot that went wrong with the Wii U, from the thing being a generation behind on tech, the name (though I never really thought that was as much of a factor as most do), the lack of strong first party support at launch, its line-up being late entries of other 7th gen games. But overall, I think people got their nostalgia fill with the Wii and weren't in any rush to go back. There wasn't a compelling enough reason for most to consider it. And though the Switch brought back a lot of excitement with its design and launched with Breath of the Wild, and at a decent price, it was more about people feeling the longing again to revisit Nintendo's IPs.

However, perhaps it'll stay popular, maybe not as popular as Switch was. There really isn't any devices like it other than things like Steam Deck. And honestly I'd rather just play what Nintendo makes for such a device anyways. Seems to be very popular in Japan and with indies. So, as long as there's that market support, I think they'll do very well.

I definitely feel functionality with Switch library and digital rights will be crucial, and last I heard Nintendo will finally be on board in a more pro-consumer way. No doubt that helps. Because without that, future looks more uncertain.

@SolidGame_basic: the spirit of Nintendo is innovation. They don't compete on the power race. The make things differently.

That's why their products are either massive successes or massive bombs.

I personally hope they continue that way and make something new, different and exciting.

Here's another prediction. This system will launch without an SSD🤭Imagine launching a system in 2024-2025 without an SSD. Yea, you heard it, no SSD inside a gaming system🤡Only with Nintendo.

I would argue GB, GBA and DS but yeah I get your point.

I have a feeling Nintendo might play it a bit more safe this time around but still find a way to "innovate". Basically not just an iterative upgrade but also nothing groundbreaking either.

Only if it has a gimmick, shitty specs and an insanely priced E-shop for the Nintendo plebs throw stacks of cash at.

The PS5 will beat Switch 2 in sales. The only reason it will be close is Switch 2 is portable.

It'll be just like the Switch but will have 2 screens like the ds did, and 4 controllers detach for those rooftop picnics with friends.... I don't see how it'd fail. I don't know how the wiiU failed as bad as it did either though, and that thing was great. Hopefully Switch 2 incorporates some of wiiUs ideas this time. I don't like having to dock the Switch to play on the TV. It should be a controller like wiiU was.

Until Nintendo start making more mature games then they won't get my money, no matter what they make next, be it a console/handheld or a combination of both.

Asking for mature titles makes you look like you're immature. At least this is what i was told by our sheep.

I don't know, but I'll sure do my part to help ensure it is.

Will sell well, but won't have a new Zelda game until 2029.

Well, Nintendo is effectively entering the post-Iwata era with its next console, and it will be interesting to see how Furukawa, the new president from 2018, presents his vision.

Not to mention, Nintendo's consoles over the past two decades - DS/3DS, Wii/WiiU and Switch - have all been released under the leadership of Satoru Iwata, reflecting his vision for gaming. In fact, Iwata was the head of console development for the Switch until his death in 2015, pushing the idea of a hybrid console. His name is also credited as executive producer on BotW, suggesting that he also oversaw its development. In other words, much of Nintendo's current success is the fruit of seeds sown by Iwata during his lifetime.

New president Furukawa, on the other hand, has yet to demonstrate a strong vision for the console business. Personally, I think a Switch Pro with the power of a Steam Deck would be a sure-fire success. But I'd also like to see another drama where they do something completely unpredictable and defy most expectations, for better or worse, just like Iwata did with Wii and Switch.

They can try to make a completely new concept and then is 50/50 but if they just do a Switch 2 it's almost a guaranteed success.

Don't you worry, they will re-release totk at full price with a 20% graphical upgrade and 10% performance boost.

For me Nintendo need to not only improve the hardware but also homogenize their online offering and really go all in on offering backwards compat options.

Yeah. I will buy it regardless if it is or not

@hardwenzen: mature stuff is for teenagers that want to look like grown ups.

Adults don't care about mature topics and when you have children, the kiddy games become a bridge to connect and spend time with your kids.

Hard to say with Nintendo. A Switch 2 would be the most boring and predictable Nintendo has ever been, and they usually don't do predictable.

Yeah, it's true. A mature person wouldn't give a **** if they're jumping on turtles or shooting people in the face. As long as they're having fun.

And if you can't have fun without shooting people in the face, there's probably more things than immaturity that's wrong with you.

If they give us a more powerful and refined Switch, that is backwards compatible, it'll be very successful.

It will be a hit no matter what new policies they roll out. Switch was a great design and it's sequel will be great. I don't think I'll run out and buy one however. Steam deck is a better experience overall and since the put Zelda on switch 1 I won't feel the urgency to jump in for more of the same first party experiences. Kart is bordom, smash is the same... Steam deck will always have a more compelling library going forward by comparison, but Nintendo will still go forward with lots of happy fans.

If you're happy to play as a plumber who has blue balls then more power to you, some of us don't want to play Mario 678, Pokemon 340, Zelda 489 etc.

I play all sorts of games from Shooters to Racing games and just about everything in between, heck I just finished Ty the Tasmanian Tiger 2 the other day, so I can enjoy almost anything. you shouldn't assume as its just makes an arse out of you.

My issue with Nintendo is they have been making the same shit for 40yrs, and just cater to kids and people with nostalgia, but if I want something more mature then I have issues lol.

You're the one getting angry with others that want something more, maybe look in the mirror.

Oh, ok. That would've been much better to say than

Until Nintendo start making more mature games then they won't get my money

which would imply that you only play games you consider "mature", and not games like Ty the Tasmanian Tiger 2.

Yeah, that's wrong. But again, why not say that instead then? You are, in other words, fed up with Nintendo's reoccurring series. Not "immature" games.

and just cater to kids and people with nostalgia

Yeah, that's also wrong, but whatever.

People wanting other things than me doesn't make me angry. People saying stupid shit is pretty annoying though.

There's nothing wrong wanting Nintendo to do more than just cutesy, colourful, cartoony looking games.

You mean like Metroid?

@TheEroica: Not to mention, people who will enjoy both.

I got a ROG Ally instead due to availability issues. But I enjoy both my Ally and my Switch.

As long as the Switch has games like Mario, Zelda, Fire Emblem, Splatoon and Kirby, I will be satisfied going forward. Hell if they revived the Advance Wars series, even better.

For my ROG Ally, I am not even gonna mention games, way too many stuff. :P

If they do it right and it plays switch 1 games, all games purchased digitally are in your library, and the new software is there, yes I think it will be a hit.

I predict it'll be a bigger hit than the N64 or Gamecube.

I could see it not selling as much as the first one.

But children and neckbeards love their Pokemans , so it will still do pretty well.

Yep, it's a great duo! I think what I'm trying to articulate is that while Nintendo has earned its praise with switch, there are now competitors that make the switch design less impactful as it was for Switch 1... Still, if they continue to build bridges with 3rd party and are able to keep pimping out quality first party games their gonna keep people real happy.

How are you enjoying ROG? It's so exciting to see handheld get this kind of love again.

Dang, you're probably right. If anyone can, Nintendo can ruin that momentum.

That stated, I'd wager it'll be another big hit. I only saw that because, and I'll own up to being wrong, I thought the Switch was going to be a thud. And it's popularity has vastly exceeded what I expected it to sell.

If it's fully backwards compatible with better hardware it will be a huge hit.

History says....probably not. Not unless they do something a bit more out there.

Making a literal switch 2 is no guarantee of success. The Snes was less successful then the nes. The N64 was less successful than the SNes and so on. The GBA was also less successful than the GB. Having Zelda/Mario/Metroid/Pikmin etc is also no guarantee. Many great games in those series. But many of those great games are also on failed consoles.

A switch 2 will be going into a market where there is the switch (which will be cheaper and have a huge library) and also where there are things like the Steam Deck and ROG Ally. It will be a tougher market.

They could try to disrupt the phone market. A Nintendo gaming phone (as in more like the Xperia Play in form factor, not the ASUS ROG phone) could throw a spanner in the phone market. New gaming phone for 300 bucks that covers the basics outside of gaming. Have a dock for it too so it can do the switch thing. Maybe have a new Pokemon Go 2 built into the new phone. It would be interesting at least. The big challenge there would be making sure they have the right basics covered. Convincing people they don't need access to a billion apps would be difficult. Maybe collaborate with google in some way.

If they try and go up directly against MS and sony with a new console then they would lose....badly. Historically no one can compete with Sony on Sonys turf. Buuut they do have options. This is HIGHLY unlikely...i can't stress this enough. But if they were to re-enter the console market they could try and move the goal posts in horsepower by working with Nvidia on making a GPU that is really really good at ray/path tracing.....for a 500bucks ish console. It could be a case if it having the rasterisation capability of a 1050 but the ray tracing performance of a 4070TI. It could smack any PC GPU in that price class in ray tracing performance. I'm sure, somewhere at Nvidia HQ, they do have an idea of what a GPU would look like if it was made only for ray tracing and BC and API compliance were not a concern. It would be a way for Nintendo to re-enter the hardware race without directly re-entering the hardware race. That would be really interesting. Plus think of all the ray tracing remakes Nintendo could make. As i say though: This is highly unlikely. Nvidia don't tend to do highly custom work for consoles. Nintendo also want to keep their production budgets under control.

They tend to be more successful when they do something a bit different though.

In other words, you want more diversity from a system you purchase, and Nintendo is incapable of offering choice. With them, its Color Or GTFO, while with all other systems, you have, well, everything.

@hardwenzen: Nintendo has more choice when you don't put up weird barriers like "too many colors" or "too cute". But yeah, you're not gonna play GTA on Nintendo systems, and stuff like Apex, Witcher, Doom or whatever is fucking crap on Nintendo hardware. There's really no good reason to get any 3rd party games for Nintendo systems if you have other systems, unless handheld is a huge deal to you. 3rd party games are almost always the worst but still most expensive on Nintendo systems. This is how it's been for a long ass time, and probably how it will stay.

Its not only about third party. All third party support would be a requirement for me to buy the system, but i also want first party like Perfect Dark, 007, Conker, Metroid, etc. These do not exist. There are no artificial barriers, these games are simply not a thing, and clearly not a priority since the GC days.