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Contrary to the popular and everlasting prophecy that PC gaming is dying chronically, Crytek's CEO Cevat Yerli believes that console are the real dying breed.

?The console will displace the PC, you hear it again and again. On the contrary, I suspect that the next-generation of home consoles will be the last one,?Yerli told German siteGolem.

?Of course there are still hardcore gamers who sit for an hour to install and then play for eight hours. But these consumers are becoming the minority. Today's gamers buy a game for 99 cents, download it and play it for 15 to 20 minutes per day over a period of two months - and then they move on.?

Yerli also confirmed that Crytek already has a Wii U version of its famous CryEngine and that its licensees are already creating games for the upcoming Nintendo console. However, he affirmed that Crytek has no intention to develop any games for Wii U or PlayStation Vita.

?The Playstation Vita is currently too uncertain for us as a platform?he explained.?Technically, I find the Vita very appealing, and have fun with it - no question. From a business perspective it is a bit too late.?


Link: http://megagames.com/news/crytek-ceo-next-generation-consoles-last

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#2 DISSESHOWEDO
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I don't see any solid argument !

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Yeah, consoles will vanish in the mist never to be seen again, clearing the path to the almighty PC to dominate the gaming world.

Just like that *snap*, becoming artifacts of the past.

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#4 GamerEye
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Uh-huh, right.

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#5 tomarlyn
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Whatever you say Crybabies.
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#6 DeadMan1290
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Yeah, consoles will vanish in the mist never to be seen again, clearing the path to the almighty PC to dominate the gaming world.

Just like that *snap*, becoming artifacts of the past.

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#7 DeadMan1290
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Yeah, consoles will vanish in the mist never to be seen again, clearing the path to the almighty PC to dominate the gaming world.

Just like that *snap*, becoming artifacts of the past.

rogerjak
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#8 razgriz_101
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yet at the same time consoles are evolving into multimedia devices but retain the gameplay and gaming functionality...yup crytek consoles are dying guess he's never heard of evolution.

Crytek are as bad as petey of lionhead sometimes.

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#9 NinjaLegacy
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I don't see it happening but I see where he is coming from.
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#10 haziqonfire
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That's not the most compelling argument lol.
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#11 tagyhag
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Today's consoles are a dying breed, just like the PC. Eventually it will all be taken by cloud gaming and cheap/F2P games.
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#12 lhughey
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Today's consoles are a dying breed, just like the PC. Eventually it will all be taken by cloud gaming and cheap/F2P games. tagyhag
I agree about the cloud gaming. I'm sure there will be upgraded subscription models allowing you to run high resolution games. Its going to be a cash cow for devs.
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#13 shearMario
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Console gaming isn't dying, it's just evolving into PC's with every gen....
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#14 casharmy
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Wait...you mean the same guy who said crysis was not possible on consoles?

lol

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These people talk alot of shyt. It seems like almost every week they are either bashing something or praising something
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#16 dontshackzmii
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And all gamers will run out and build pcs including 6 year old Timmy and hermits will live happily ever after thee end.

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haha I'm enjoying the delicious irony of lots of console gaming is dying threads popping up after 3 generations of them screaming it at PC gamers :P
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And all gamers will run out and build pcs including 6 year old Timmy and hermits will live happily ever after thee end.

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#20 Jamiemydearx3
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Consoles as we know them? Yeah probably, but besides that there's no way Nintendo will stop making consoles in the next ten years.

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#21 christiankhs-2
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you know what i think, consoles are not going to die but its more likely they are going to be only for casual gamers one day, kinect stuff, dancing games and nintendo casual games like wii fit wii sports etc, and now nintendoland it seems that each day these games are more and more important, so if this trend continues or increases hardcore gamers are gonna start leaving console gaming , that means even less sales for hardcore titles.

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Consoles won't die, but they will probably change enough to where they are a new breed. So you could say the common console is dying, but something new will take its place. Perhaps integrated into the tv, or something

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#23 mitu123
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Wait...you mean the same guy who said crysis was not possible on consoles?

lol

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It's true.

Microsoft and Sony's consoles will not continue to exist. Their place will be taken by the much cheaper OnLive as fast, uncapped broadband proliferates to more areas and OnLive's service grows in terms of game selection and hardware availability. The MS/Sony definition of a console will be this awkward middle child that's much more expensive than OnLive without really looking much better if you have a good connection (which urban centers will). For a bit more you can get a PC, which provides a meaningfully superior experience to both on all counts.

Then there's the tablets. Nvidia's Tegra 3 tablet platform is almost as powerful as current gen consoles (look up Shadowgun THD) and Apple's latest iPad is roughly on par with Tegra 3. Android OS already has functionality to hook up to an HDTV via HDMI dock and output 1080P while using a wireless controller. The next tablet generation is going to surpass the consoles in terms of power, all they need is AAA software libraries.

Why buy a console if you can buy something just about as good for less assuming good internet? Why buy a console if you can buy something that's also portable and very useful day to day like a tablet? Why buy a console if you need something better quality than those two and can afford extra expense? Consoles just don't have a place in the future. Everyone is going to be a Hermit or an OnLive / Tablet gamer.

And you know what? It's a good thing. Consoles as closed platforms run by megacorps are actually toxic to the industry. Sony has a history of thretening journalists with press event bans and refusal to send review copies of first party titles if the journalists do things like publish bad revies of Sony-backed titles (like the Kane & Lynch incident -- I wonder if mentioning this is against the rules on Gamespot?). Microsoft openly bribes publishers to delay/cancel content on other platforms and publicly fellate them. See: Bethesda. Both of them pre-approve everything and charge fees for everything a dev does. Both of them have withheld free DLC so they can make money forcing the devs to charge money for it. We're really better off without MS and Sony. OnLive probably wouldn't be a better replacement (closed platform and all -- same goes for iOS), but Android would be a great one for gamer / developer freedom.

Nintendo? I think they can stay successful. Worst come to worst I can picture Nintendo releasing an official tablet designed to dock to TVs via HDMI and use wireless controllers that runs a fork of Android's source code and has a "Nintendo Store" (think Kindle Fire here) built in. Knowing Nintendo each game would have "traditional mode" where you play with a controller and a "portable mode" that either lets you play the real game with altered controls or mini-games. It'd have strong multiplayer too. One person could play on the TV while another player in the same room does something else with their own Nintendo tablet (like spawn enemies and try to kill them). It would let Nintendo have a single platform that fulfills both portable and home. In fact, the Wii U controller might be testing these very waters.

My 2 cents on the future and consoles.

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Anybody who believes we will continue to see consoles as we know them after this upcoming gen are in for a shocker lol. I've been saying this for years.

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Today's consoles are a dying breed, just like the PC. Eventually it will all be taken by cloud gaming and cheap/F2P games. tagyhag
And then, ultimately, the great leader will do all the gaming, thinking, and whatever else, for us!
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#27 lowe0
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So wait, this week, is Cevat Yerli trustworthy and knowledgeable, or a sellout who deserves to have his company collapse? I lost my secret decoder ring, so I can't keep track....
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#28 LovePotionNo9
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The combination of his fears and console failure does not make it so.
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#29 Raymundo_Manuel
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Anybody who believes we will continue to see consoles as we know them after this upcoming gen are in for a shocker lol. I've been saying this for years.

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Pretty much.

E3 2012 should have been enough proof of that.

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And this gen is the last gen that you'll see large budget PC exclusives.
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And this gen is the last gen that you'll see large budget PC exclusives. Nonstop-Madness
Hah. As if. Planetside 2 doesn't come out for a while, and TORTanic was $300M worth of game (only it sucked but w/e).
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As much as I'd like that, not gonna happen.

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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]And this gen is the last gen that you'll see large budget PC exclusives. Myounage
Hah. As if. Planetside 2 doesn't come out for a while, and TORTanic was $300M worth of game (only it sucked but w/e).

Other than MMO's and maybe F2P games, you won't see one anytime soon. The only way you'll see large budget PC exclusives is if the developers can somehow have a steady stream of income from subscriptions etc.
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As long as there is a demand for the "next generation" of consoles... not going to happen. I can see them becoming more versatile in terms of complete entertainment systems, but not extinct.
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#35 Myounage
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[QUOTE="Myounage"][QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]And this gen is the last gen that you'll see large budget PC exclusives. Nonstop-Madness
Hah. As if. Planetside 2 doesn't come out for a while, and TORTanic was $300M worth of game (only it sucked but w/e).

Other than MMO's and maybe F2P games, you won't see one anytime soon. The only way you'll see large budget PC exclusives is if the developers can somehow have a steady stream of income from subscriptions etc.

Pretty soon "core games" won't exist on consoles though, or have severely watered down versions. What you aren't realizing is that many games are SO DIFFERENT that they might as well be PC exclusive. The first Crysis was absolutely mutilated on console. They removed enemies, dumbed down the CPU-intensive AI, removed foliage, removed enterable buildings, and a ton of other things to fit the levels onto consoles. Ditto for BF3's multiplayer maps. The biggest ones were mutilated for the lower playercounts. Metro 2033 had to be scaled back so far to get 720P and 30FPS that it has a completely different sense of atmosphere on PC. Watch_Dogs will look MUCH worse on consoles, since consoles can't do the tesselation (I think it was there) or bokeh DoF that we saw in the demo. SW1313 isn't even announced for consoles, only PC, etc. And then there's Skyrim. That too might as well be considered exclusive because of the assload of high-quality free DLC and visual upgrades from other users.
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I'm pretty sure he meant that consoles after next gen will cease to be consoles in the traditional sense. They will either turn into PC's or make use of cloud computing for all games.
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[QUOTE="Myounage"][QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]And this gen is the last gen that you'll see large budget PC exclusives. Nonstop-Madness
Hah. As if. Planetside 2 doesn't come out for a while, and TORTanic was $300M worth of game (only it sucked but w/e).

Other than MMO's and maybe F2P games, you won't see one anytime soon. The only way you'll see large budget PC exclusives is if the developers can somehow have a steady stream of income from subscriptions etc.

Or make good games like HL2, SC2, Diablo 3, etc...
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As long as there is a demand for the "next generation" of consoles... not going to happen. I can see them becoming more versatile in terms of complete entertainment systems, but not extinct.umcommon

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It sounds more like he just really wants consoles to stop being THE smart business decision in the industry.

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#40 Raymundo_Manuel
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It sounds more like he just really wants consoles to stop being THE smart business decision in the industry.

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4 of the top 5 largest game companies in the world produce exclusive PC games. The 5th one is Nintendo.

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Why does Crytek keep talking?

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Contrary to the popular and everlasting prophecy that PC gaming is dying chronically, Crytek's CEO Cevat Yerli believes that console are the real dying breed.

?The console will displace the PC, you hear it again and again. On the contrary, I suspect that the next-generation of home consoles will be the last one,?Yerli told German siteGolem.

?Of course there are still hardcore gamers who sit for an hour to install and then play for eight hours. But these consumers are becoming the minority. Today's gamers buy a game for 99 cents, download it and play it for 15 to 20 minutes per day over a period of two months - and then they move on.?

Yerli also confirmed that Crytek already has a Wii U version of its famous CryEngine and that its licensees are already creating games for the upcoming Nintendo console. However, he affirmed that Crytek has no intention to develop any games for Wii U or PlayStation Vita.

?The Playstation Vita is currently too uncertain for us as a platform?he explained.?Technically, I find the Vita very appealing, and have fun with it - no question. From a business perspective it is a bit too late.?


Link: http://megagames.com/news/crytek-ceo-next-generation-consoles-last

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[QUOTE="lx_theo"]

It sounds more like he just really wants consoles to stop being THE smart business decision in the industry.

Raymundo_Manuel

4 of the top 5 largest game companies in the world produce exclusive PC games. The 5th one is Nintendo.

I can only wonder how many of those are MMOs, or RTSs, or other games that have proven to not work well with console controls.
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#44 mitu123
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Why does Crytek keep talking?

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For attention obviously.
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#45 Raymundo_Manuel
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[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

[QUOTE="lx_theo"]

It sounds more like he just really wants consoles to stop being THE smart business decision in the industry.

lx_theo

4 of the top 5 largest game companies in the world produce exclusive PC games. The 5th one is Nintendo.

I can only wonder how many of those are MMOs, or RTSs, or other games that have proven to not work well with console controls.

Yah, it does feel pretty good to have a gaming system that's unlimited in what it can provide me.

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#46 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

4 of the top 5 largest game companies in the world produce exclusive PC games. The 5th one is Nintendo.

Raymundo_Manuel

I can only wonder how many of those are MMOs, or RTSs, or other games that have proven to not work well with console controls.

Yah, it does feel pretty good to have a gaming system that's unlimited in what it can provide me.

Well, motion controls? And no extra add-on type stuff going on. Because you can buy keyboards and such that work with consoles (Just a matter of them including the control scheme in the game, also like motion controls). Consoles have stuff like the Wiimote and Sixaxis that come standard with the typical setup for the console.
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[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

[QUOTE="lx_theo"] I can only wonder how many of those are MMOs, or RTSs, or other games that have proven to not work well with console controls.lx_theo

Yah, it does feel pretty good to have a gaming system that's unlimited in what it can provide me.

Well, motion controls? And no extra add-on type stuff going on. Because you can buy keyboards and such that work with consoles (Just a matter of them including the control scheme in the game, also like motion controls). Consoles have stuff like the Wiimote and Sixaxis that come standard with the typical setup for the console.

Well there's the razer hydra, and novint falcon. Also MS provides support for the Kinect on PC as well.

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#48 commander
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l'm never interested in a cheap games. Minority or not , skyrim did make a profit for bethesda of 620 milllion dollars, call of duty made 1 billion in profit 16 after release. Who cares if it's a minorty, as long is there's profit to be made , it will exist. Not every one buys ferraris , it's only a minority , does that mean they will cease to exist, off course not dumb ass ceo .
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#49 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

Yah, it does feel pretty good to have a gaming system that's unlimited in what it can provide me.

Raymundo_Manuel

Well, motion controls? And no extra add-on type stuff going on. Because you can buy keyboards and such that work with consoles (Just a matter of them including the control scheme in the game, also like motion controls). Consoles have stuff like the Wiimote and Sixaxis that come standard with the typical setup for the console.

Well there's the razer hydra, and novint falcon. Also MS provides support for the Kinect on PC as well.

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Like I said, no add ons. Any computer system can use ANY input if you threw in add-ons. The point I'm getting to is that many of the genres are based around PC controls, and most (but not all) transfer pretty well to consoles. Motion controls is the first real type of genre built from consoles. Wii U controller is a another. I'm not really a fan of these myself, but like RTS and such are for PCs, these type of controller games are for consoles. Its just a matter of one being the original source of inspiration for most of the game styles we play.
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#50 goblaa
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I don't see consoles as we know them exsisting for much longer either.