Crytek:next consoles are for the first time ever not going to be beyond the PC

Oh Crytek how you love to just talk and talk.

"I think the next console generation is going to be more a mix of the top devs - they'll be much more PC-driven this time around," Yerli told us in issue 97, on sale now. "In fact, I believe - oh, I can't talk more about that. Let's say this: PC devs will be much more comfortable than last gen console devs.

"Last gen, the move from PS2 to PS3, or Xbox to Xbox 360, for many devs was back-breaking," he explained. "But for us going to Xbox 360, we had to work backward, we had to bring down all our tech to make it happen. As opposed to finding ourselves in that situation with today's PC... I'm already talking too much."

Yerli went onto state that "the next gen consoles are, for the first time ever, not going to be beyond the PC generation". This tallies with what we know of PS4, which CVG has deemed a "posh-ish PC". Microsoft has yet to reveal specifications for its next console, of course, but you're welcome to knock your head against some rumoured specs.Crytek

While I do hate how they keep poking at the situation lately and seem to try drum up some drama there is at least some truth to what he says. This is the first time consoles and PC have ever been (or will be) so alike. No longer will PC devs have to make as much compromises to get there stuff on consoles, it's not as big a downgrade or architectural change as before.

Personally I look forward to seeing how multiplat games get on next gen. They will truly benefit the most I think

tormentos will just love that. I've seen him quote Crytek, quite a bit.

tormentos will just love that. I've seen him quote Crytek, quite a bit.

lundy86_4

Yeah cos what more threads need is more Tormentos :roll: Let's hope he didn't see it lol

Difference in graphics will probably be marginal.

As annoyinh as Crytek is lately this is true although in the PS3s case PC beat it significantly in 3 days before it's launch 8800GTX :)

Next gen console are pretty much just locked down PCs with worse prices for games. Gen 9 will probably just be various PCs with digital distribution from each publishers all on the same box

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tormentos will just love that. I've seen him quote Crytek, quite a bit.

seanmcloughlin

Yeah cos what more threads need is more Tormentos :roll: Let's hope he didn't see it lol

I'm really hoping so :P

Anyways, on topic... It makes sense. SLI/Crossfire are becoming drastically more popular, as well as multiple GPUs on a single chipset.

People need to stop looking for consoles to compete with the PC on a hardware level. Personally, i'm not overly bothered about the disparity in visuals, though I do like looking at the PC maxing out some games :D

Difference in graphics will probably be marginal.

nitekids2004

Define "marginal".

Oh Crytek how you love to just talk and talk.

[QUOTE="Crytek"]"I think the next console generation is going to be more a mix of the top devs - they'll be much more PC-driven this time around," Yerli told us in issue 97, on sale now. "In fact, I believe - oh, I can't talk more about that. Let's say this: PC devs will be much more comfortable than last gen console devs.

"Last gen, the move from PS2 to PS3, or Xbox to Xbox 360, for many devs was back-breaking," he explained. "But for us going to Xbox 360, we had to work backward, we had to bring down all our tech to make it happen. As opposed to finding ourselves in that situation with today's PC... I'm already talking too much."

Yerli went onto state that "the next gen consoles are, for the first time ever, not going to be beyond the PC generation". This tallies with what we know of PS4, which CVG has deemed a "posh-ish PC". Microsoft has yet to reveal specifications for its next console, of course, but you're welcome to knock your head against some rumoured specs.seanmcloughlin

While I do hate how they keep poking at the situation lately and seem to try drum up some drama there is at least some truth to what he says. This is the first time consoles and PC have ever been (or will be) so alike. No longer will PC devs have to make as much compromises to get there stuff on consoles, it's not as big a downgrade or architectural change as before.

Personally I look forward to seeing how multiplat games get on next gen. They will truly benefit the most I think

Multi plat games will always be better on PC anyway.  That won't ever change but this just means that console ports will be better on PC this Gen.  

Multi plat games will always be better on PC anyway.  That won't ever change but this just means that console ports will be better on PC this Gen.  

NFJSupreme

Of course, but sometimes they're extremely shoddy ports. Having such similar architecture across all platforms will makes things far easier and maybe console ports to PC (cos most are that way) will actually be better this time round.

But that's all wishful thinking

Developers should be seen working hard and not heard. When the game is done then we'll talk. At least my wallet does the talking.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

tormentos will just love that. I've seen him quote Crytek, quite a bit.

seanmcloughlin

Yeah cos what more threads need is more Tormentos :roll: Let's hope he didn't see it lol

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Difference in graphics will probably be marginal.

lundy86_4

Define "marginal".

PC would have better graphics, but not so much that it looks one-gen leap ahead. 

[QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]

Multi plat games will always be better on PC anyway.  That won't ever change but this just means that console ports will be better on PC this Gen.  

seanmcloughlin

Of course, but sometimes they're extremely shoddy ports. Having such similar architecture across all platforms will makes things far easier and maybe console ports to PC (cos most are that way) will actually be better this time round.

But that's all wishful thinking

Yeah poor console ports should be a thing of the past nextgen. PC players should be excited.  

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[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Difference in graphics will probably be marginal.

nitekids2004

Define "marginal".

PC would have better graphics, but not so much that it looks one-gen leap ahead. 

Of course not, people even exaggerate now with the whole gen ahead leap with current systems and PC. 

As long as console ports run better next gen I'll be happy as they will naturally look good as a by product of better hardware. But this gen console ports run rather poorly at times

Developers should be seen working hard and not heard. When the game is done then we'll talk. At least my wallet does the talking.

jun_aka_pekto

Well said, Crytek should be making better games rather than making one and thinking everyone will love it and then running their mouth off after

No kidding, and considering Nvidia and AMD will probably be releasing new GPUs by the end of the year, his statements will have even more truth to them. 

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

Developers should be seen working hard and not heard. When the game is done then we'll talk. At least my wallet does the talking.

seanmcloughlin

Well said, Crytek should be making better games rather than making one and thinking everyone will love it and then running their mouth off after

sucks they decided to quit on making that Redemption game it looked pretty interesting

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[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

Developers should be seen working hard and not heard. When the game is done then we'll talk. At least my wallet does the talking.

NoodleFighter

Well said, Crytek should be making better games rather than making one and thinking everyone will love it and then running their mouth off after

sucks they decided to quit on making that Redemption game it looked pretty interesting

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Well said, Crytek should be making better games rather than making one and thinking everyone will love it and then running their mouth off after

clyde46

sucks they decided to quit on making that Redemption game it looked pretty interesting

At least they left their tech out for others to use

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

sucks they decided to quit on making that Redemption game it looked pretty interesting

NoodleFighter

At least they left their tech out for others to use

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Difference in graphics will probably be marginal.

nitekids2004

Define "marginal".

PC would have better graphics, but not so much that it looks one-gen leap ahead. 

I can see that, though I wouldn't define it as "marginal", personally. Assume that PC games can likely pump out at least twice the resolution and fps, with a notable jump in assets. Worthy of a whole generation? No.

Ever?

PC in 2000:

PS2 in 2000:

Ever?

PC in 2000:

PS2 in 2000:

Cherokee_Jack

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Well said, Crytek should be making better games rather than making one and thinking everyone will love it and then running their mouth off after

clyde46

sucks they decided to quit on making that Redemption game it looked pretty interesting

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

sucks they decided to quit on making that Redemption game it looked pretty interesting

call_of_duty_10

Well, as someone who has actually played Warface (got into the closed beta), I can say that what Warface offers is really just a very different FPS experience than PS2 and Tribes, both amazing games in their own right. Warface is very very much a Call of Duty style FPS--small maps, close spawns, no vehicles, twitch based gameplay with little strategy. A better game to compare it to would be Blacklight Retribution. I thought both games were good, though and I can see Warface building up a decent user base. 

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

sucks they decided to quit on making that Redemption game it looked pretty interesting

call_of_duty_10

WarFace is pretty popular in Russia and managed to get over 5 million players.

Sucks if what ever their game Crytek Austin studio (AKA former Vigil devs) had in mind doesn't really work well with the F2p model

Oh Crytek how you love to just talk and talk.

[QUOTE="Crytek"]"I think the next console generation is going to be more a mix of the top devs - they'll be much more PC-driven this time around," Yerli told us in issue 97, on sale now. "In fact, I believe - oh, I can't talk more about that. Let's say this: PC devs will be much more comfortable than last gen console devs.

"Last gen, the move from PS2 to PS3, or Xbox to Xbox 360, for many devs was back-breaking," he explained. "But for us going to Xbox 360, we had to work backward, we had to bring down all our tech to make it happen. As opposed to finding ourselves in that situation with today's PC... I'm already talking too much."

Yerli went onto state that "the next gen consoles are, for the first time ever, not going to be beyond the PC generation". This tallies with what we know of PS4, which CVG has deemed a "posh-ish PC". Microsoft has yet to reveal specifications for its next console, of course, but you're welcome to knock your head against some rumoured specs.seanmcloughlin

While I do hate how they keep poking at the situation lately and seem to try drum up some drama there is at least some truth to what he says. This is the first time consoles and PC have ever been (or will be) so alike. No longer will PC devs have to make as much compromises to get there stuff on consoles, it's not as big a downgrade or architectural change as before.

Personally I look forward to seeing how multiplat games get on next gen. They will truly benefit the most I think

Yeah not a fan of these Crytek tards. Every week I see a news story of them saying something negative about console gaming.

If they don't like it, they don't have to agree to develop and release any other there games on consoles. That's Hippocratic.

I think they are scared right now of the new engines or something that has do do with consoles. It makes since to why lately they been console bashing. Maybe they already know they are going to get the short end of the stick, just like Nvidia is crying right now about Sony and MS.

As annoyinh as Crytek is lately this is true although in the PS3s case PC beat it significantly in 3 days before it's launch 8800GTX :)

NoodleFighter

NVIDIA was trolling Sony during PS3's launch window.

Back in around 2006 time period, NVidia was actively comparing it's Geforce CUDA solution against the others which includes CELL's SPE.

Crytek scared because they know next gen console game engines might make there CryEngine 3 look like crap.

 

Crytek just STFU we already know you are PC fanboys. Why even allow your games to come out on consoles if all you do is bash consoles. Ungrateful much?

Stop spouting crap out.

 

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Oh Crytek how you love to just talk and talk.

[QUOTE="Crytek"]"I think the next console generation is going to be more a mix of the top devs - they'll be much more PC-driven this time around," Yerli told us in issue 97, on sale now. "In fact, I believe - oh, I can't talk more about that. Let's say this: PC devs will be much more comfortable than last gen console devs.

"Last gen, the move from PS2 to PS3, or Xbox to Xbox 360, for many devs was back-breaking," he explained. "But for us going to Xbox 360, we had to work backward, we had to bring down all our tech to make it happen. As opposed to finding ourselves in that situation with today's PC... I'm already talking too much."

Yerli went onto state that "the next gen consoles are, for the first time ever, not going to be beyond the PC generation". This tallies with what we know of PS4, which CVG has deemed a "posh-ish PC". Microsoft has yet to reveal specifications for its next console, of course, but you're welcome to knock your head against some rumoured specs.Mrmedia01

While I do hate how they keep poking at the situation lately and seem to try drum up some drama there is at least some truth to what he says. This is the first time consoles and PC have ever been (or will be) so alike. No longer will PC devs have to make as much compromises to get there stuff on consoles, it's not as big a downgrade or architectural change as before.

Personally I look forward to seeing how multiplat games get on next gen. They will truly benefit the most I think

someone's mad

lol Tormentos is nowhere to be found

yawn..why dont they actually make good games that is fun to play  with teh amazing graphics coming from the all mighty powerful pc then we can talk..I bet you PS4 can produce the same graphics as Crysis 3

And yet PC's gen will be defined by the scraps and crumbs that will fall from Xbox's plate. 

And yet PC's gen will be defined by the scraps and crumbs that will fall from Xbox's plate. 

Pray_to_me

Nope

When Crytek starts making games again instead of tech demos or F2P MP grinders, I'll listen.

Til then:  ,.|..    ..|.,

And yet PC's gen will be defined by the scraps and crumbs that will fall from Xbox's plate. 

Pray_to_me

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And yet PC's gen will be defined by the scraps and crumbs that will fall from Xbox's plate. 

faizan_faizan

that is wonderful news

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

And yet PC's gen will be defined by the scraps and crumbs that will fall from Xbox's plate. 

lostrib

that is wonderful news

Difference in graphics will probably be massive.

nitekids2004

Good point, just like this gen.

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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/27/watch-dogs-pc-is-lead-platform/faizan_faizan

that is wonderful news

Not really. PC games will still sell millions less on multiplats. PS4 and Xbox will still be the lead platforms most of the times. Games will stop be unoptimized for PC...

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

that is wonderful news

StrongBlackVine

Not really. PC games will still sell millions less on multiplats. PS4 and Xbox will still be the lead platforms most of the times. Games will stop be unoptimized for PC...

It really doesn't matter anymore. All we need are great games, it looks like all the next gen systems that we know of so far are primed to deliver those. I really could not care less about engaging in an e peen measuring contest.DropsofJupiter

[QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"]It really doesn't matter anymore. All we need are great games, it looks like all the next gen systems that we know of so far are primed to deliver those. I really could not care less about engaging in an e peen measuring contest.skrat_01

Let's wait for what Naughty Gods would do on the PS4. Or Santa Monica. 

While most people act like Crytek doesn't have any credibility any more, I have to disagree on one point. Crytek said that Crysis 3 would be pc centered, and would push pc. They definitely delivered in this area. On a maxed out pc, the game's visuals are unbelievable.

With that said, I feel like Crytek missed the mark in other area's. The game's length was decent, but it felt incomplete. The first half of the game was great. But from the massive dune buggy level on, it seemed like Crytek lost their footing, the 6th level was great though, so it wasn't all bad.

Anyways though, the pc will start ahead of consoles this gen, and from there it will continue to get better. So what he is saying is right. Still, Crytek talks to much for their own good.

For the cutting-edge graphics engine developers they are, CryTek sure talk smack...

Newsflash: consoles *never* were stronger than PCs.

Even in the 80s there existed computers like the Commodore Amiga and Sharp X68000 which were beyond consoles.

It's impossible for a console to outpower a computer simply because it has to have compromised hardware to keep down the costs.

On the PC, there are no price and upgrade restrictions, so obviously a 2000 dollar PC will always outdo a sub-599 dollar console.

Infact, this is pretty much common logic.

crysis 3 doesnt even have tesellation lol it's not pushing pc.