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According to steam most PC Gamers have: 4GB of RAM or less Dual Core CPU or less 2.69 Ghz CPU or less 1GB of VRAM or less LMaO :lol:GioVela2010
And most popular graphics chip is Intel HD 3000, which is worse from the current (soon last) gen consoles...
Next gen console are pretty much just locked down PCs with worse prices for games.
BPoole96
Thats true, and its because of that I dont get tired to say exclusives make a console, not multiplats.
[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]According to steam most PC Gamers have: 4GB of RAM or less Dual Core CPU or less 2.69 Ghz CPU or less 1GB of VRAM or less LMaO :lol:nameless12345
And most popular graphics chip is Intel HD 3000, which is worse from the current (soon last) gen consoles...
In 2010 the most popular Steam resolution was still 1024x768 lol. 5 years after 360 launched![QUOTE="GioVela2010"]According to steam most PC Gamers have: 4GB of RAM or less Dual Core CPU or less 2.69 Ghz CPU or less 1GB of VRAM or less LMaO :lol:nameless12345
And most popular graphics chip is Intel HD 3000, which is worse from the current (soon last) gen consoles...
True, but this is made easier by Nvidia and AMD dividing the same pool of customers. Of course, this is also true of Sony and Microsoft.[QUOTE="NFJSupreme"][QUOTE="tormentos"] Actually if you people read my post and not only what serve most of you best,i already quoted that from Crytek and actually agree the PS4 is not as strong the best PC out there and that is not my argument here. My argument is about the PS4 holding well for several years,because is a well balance machine that is build for efficiency rather than brute force. Now most PC out there are under power vs the PS4 and that is fact that steam confirm.xboxiphoneps3
Well tell your cow heard to stop making asinine posts about the PS4 surpassing PC.
It surpasses 95% of the computers in peoples homes today, thats our pointDo you know how many PCs there are in the world? Only a fraction of them are gaming PCs. As for people with sub-standard intelligence trying to quote Steam stats, know this: lots of people, like me, use their STeam accounts on different PCs. I use it on ONE gaming PC that is already better than the PS4, but I also us it to play odler games on my laptop, my wife's laptop, and the old PC at my fathers. SO people like me pretty much screw up Steam stats.
Tl; dr: PC gaming will always crap on console gaming technically. Stop embarrasing yourselves trying to fight this war, consolites, and just keep repeating "b-b-but we have teh best exclusives, PC haz no gamez, gameplay> graphics, etc. That's where you (sorta) shine.
when have consoles ever been beyond pc?
even the past couple of gens when consoles were closer to pc than ever before they looked like a 6 to 12 month old mid range pc at best.
It surpasses 95% of the computers in peoples homes today, thats our point[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]
Well tell your cow heard to stop making asinine posts about the PS4 surpassing PC.
milannoir
Do you know how many PCs there are in the world? Only a fraction of them are gaming PCs. As for people with sub-standard intelligence trying to quote Steam stats, know this: lots of people, like me, use their STeam accounts on different PCs. I use it on ONE gaming PC that is already better than the PS4, but I also us it to play odler games on my laptop, my wife's laptop, and the old PC at my fathers. SO people like me pretty much screw up Steam stats.
Tl; dr: PC gaming will always crap on console gaming technically. Stop embarrasing yourselves trying to fight this war, consolites, and just keep repeating "b-b-but we have teh best exclusives, PC haz no gamez, gameplay> graphics, etc. That's where you (sorta) shine.
I was offered a steam survey in a less than a month on the laptop running on a 1st gen mobile core i3 I bought yet it took nearly two years for them to offer it to my gaming PC witha GTX 570 and AMD phenom ii X6 1090t
when will they realize that steam surveys are random and optional, not to mention the fact that you can practically install steam onto anything that runs, Windows, Mac, or linux
Yuck...that is all!no dude... steam survey = gospel.[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]According to steam most PC Gamers have: 4GB of RAM or less Dual Core CPU or less 2.69 Ghz CPU or less 1GB of VRAM or less LMaO :lol:mitu123
also i went downtown and did a wine survey and it seems this is the only wine that every single person that is alive drinks.
[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]According to steam most PC Gamers have: 4GB of RAM or less Dual Core CPU or less 2.69 Ghz CPU or less 1GB of VRAM or less LMaO :lol:nameless12345
And most popular graphics chip is Intel HD 3000, which is worse from the current (soon last) gen consoles...
actually nvidia GPU's that are at least 8800gt level far outnumber IntelHD gpus on that steam survey . Even AMD has more decent gpu's than intel But when you dont know how to read a survey you come to a wrong conclusion[QUOTE="nameless12345"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"]According to steam most PC Gamers have: 4GB of RAM or less Dual Core CPU or less 2.69 Ghz CPU or less 1GB of VRAM or less LMaO :lol:adamosmaki
And most popular graphics chip is Intel HD 3000, which is worse from the current (soon last) gen consoles...
actually nvidia GPU's that are at least 8800gt level far outnumber IntelHD gpus on that steam survey . Even AMD has more decent gpu's than intel But when you dont know how to read a survey you come to a wrong conclusion
Well, I guess the amount of PCs with integrated graphics still far outnumber those with dedicated graphics card.
And there are people who *do* attempt to run modern games on them.
They may not be knowledgable about tech or from developing countries, but still.
[QUOTE="nameless12345"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"]According to steam most PC Gamers have: 4GB of RAM or less Dual Core CPU or less 2.69 Ghz CPU or less 1GB of VRAM or less LMaO :lol:adamosmaki
And most popular graphics chip is Intel HD 3000, which is worse from the current (soon last) gen consoles...
actually nvidia GPU's that are at least 8800gt level far outnumber IntelHD gpus on that steam survey . Even AMD has more decent gpu's than intel But when you dont know how to read a survey you come to a wrong conclusion The average computer is far weaker than a 8800 GT[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]According to steam most PC Gamers have: 4GB of RAM or less Dual Core CPU or less 2.69 Ghz CPU or less 1GB of VRAM or less LMaO :lol:xboxiphoneps3The ps4 is more powerful then 95% of computers in peoples homes today
Show me a source where it says 95%
I don't doubt it's more powerful than a lot of them but I don't think 95% is right
[QUOTE="milannoir"]
[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] It surpasses 95% of the computers in peoples homes today, thats our pointNoodleFighter
Do you know how many PCs there are in the world? Only a fraction of them are gaming PCs. As for people with sub-standard intelligence trying to quote Steam stats, know this: lots of people, like me, use their STeam accounts on different PCs. I use it on ONE gaming PC that is already better than the PS4, but I also us it to play odler games on my laptop, my wife's laptop, and the old PC at my fathers. SO people like me pretty much screw up Steam stats.
Tl; dr: PC gaming will always crap on console gaming technically. Stop embarrasing yourselves trying to fight this war, consolites, and just keep repeating "b-b-but we have teh best exclusives, PC haz no gamez, gameplay> graphics, etc. That's where you (sorta) shine.
I was offered a steam survey in a less than a month on the laptop running on a 1st gen mobile core i3 I bought yet it took nearly two years for them to offer it to my gaming PC witha GTX 570 and AMD phenom ii X6 1090t
when will they realize that steam surveys are random and optional, not to mention the fact that you can practically install steam onto anything that runs, Windows, Mac, or linux
I even have steam on my phone :|
[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]According to steam most PC Gamers have: 4GB of RAM or less Dual Core CPU or less 2.69 Ghz CPU or less 1GB of VRAM or less LMaO :lol:MBirdy88Acording to logic all console users have PS3 and Xbox360 hardware :lol: LMAO At least, us PC System Warriors... have great rigs. OPTIONS baby :cool:
they also seem to neglect the fact that games continue to push PC hardware
Steam surveys lol. OK anyone in system wars who claims to be a hermit has a decent gaming rig. Most already have a PC comparable to or better than nextgen consoles. So who cares about casual PC gamers. That would be like me saying that consoles players don't play in HD because the most popular console this Gen was the wii. Really who cares. Hardcore PC gamers get real gaming rigs juat like hardcore console gamers don't still game on ps2s.
According to steam most PC Gamers have: 4GB of RAM or less Dual Core CPU or less 2.69 Ghz CPU or less 1GB of VRAM or less LMaO :lol:GioVela2010
And most popular graphics chip is Intel HD 3000, which is worse from the current (soon last) gen consoles...
In 2010 the most popular Steam resolution was still 1024x768 lol. 5 years after 360 launched! In 2010 is was 1280x1024. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=114857 Now its 1920x1080.What this means is that next gen multiplats and even console exclusives will be developed with PC as a lead platform in mind and then downgraded for consoles.
What this means is that next gen multiplats and even console exclusives will be developed with PC as a lead platform in mind and then downgraded for consoles.
jhonMalcovich
No it doesn't. PC will rarely be the lead platform. Why make the platform with the lowest sales of multiplats the first one? Sure it will happen like with Watchdogs, but PC is generally is at the bottom of the list.
[QUOTE="GioVela2010"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]In 2010 the most popular Steam resolution was still 1024x768 lol. 5 years after 360 launched! In 2010 is was 1280x1024. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=114857 Now its 1920x1080.
And most popular graphics chip is Intel HD 3000, which is worse from the current (soon last) gen consoles...
Cranler
Who cares how it was 2 years ago. The important thing is how it´s now. And now PC is totally slapping consoles like "you are my b*tches"
In 2010 is was 1280x1024. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=114857 Now its 1920x1080.[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"] In 2010 the most popular Steam resolution was still 1024x768 lol. 5 years after 360 launched!jhonMalcovich
Who cares how it was 2 years ago. The important thing is how it´s now. And now PC is totally slapping consoles like "you are my b*tches"
Could you be more of a dork?
[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]
What this means is that next gen multiplats and even console exclusives will be developed with PC as a lead platform in mind and then downgraded for consoles.
StrongBlackVine
No it doesn't. PC will rarely be the lead platform. Why make the platform with the lowest sales of multiplats the first one? Sure it will happen like with Watchdogs, but PC is generally is at the bottom of the list.
Lol. Almost all recent console title were shown off running on gaming PCs. For example, The Last of Us. It was shown off first on PC with really good graphics, and now when is exhibited on PS3 graphics suffered a big dive in quality. Recent PS4 killzone was rumored to have been shown off on a PC too.
[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]
[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]
What this means is that next gen multiplats and even console exclusives will be developed with PC as a lead platform in mind and then downgraded for consoles.
jhonMalcovich
No it doesn't. PC will rarely be the lead platform. Why make the platform with the lowest sales of multiplats the first one? Sure it will happen like with Watchdogs, but PC is generally is at the bottom of the list.
Lol. Almost all recent console title were shown off running on gaming PCs. For example, The Last of Us. It was shown off first on PC with really good graphics, and now when is exhibited on PC graphics suffered a big dive in quality. Recent PS4 killzone was rumored to be shown of on a PC too.
Obviously all games are developed on PCs. Doesn't mean they are optimized for PC hardware.
[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]
What this means is that next gen multiplats and even console exclusives will be developed with PC as a lead platform in mind and then downgraded for consoles.
StrongBlackVine
No it doesn't. PC will rarely be the lead platform. Why make the platform with the lowest sales of multiplats the first one? Sure it will happen like with Watchdogs, but PC is generally is at the bottom of the list.
I don't think it will even be like that. With console hardware being so similar to PC next Gen ports may not really be "ports" and the PC version of games will just be the unlocked version of the game with the full graphical options available.
[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]
[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]
No it doesn't. PC will rarely be the lead platform. Why make the platform with the lowest sales of multiplats the first one? Sure it will happen like with Watchdogs, but PC is generally is at the bottom of the list.
StrongBlackVine
Lol. Almost all recent console title were shown off running on gaming PCs. For example, The Last of Us. It was shown off first on PC with really good graphics, and now when is exhibited on PC graphics suffered a big dive in quality. Recent PS4 killzone was rumored to be shown of on a PC too.
Obviously all games are developed on PCs. Doesn't mean they are optimized for PC hardware.
Just do us all a favour and stop talking.tormentos will just love that. I've seen him quote Crytek, quite a bit.
lundy86_4
Tormentos will just quote Carmack again :lol:
[QUOTE="nameless12345"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"]According to steam most PC Gamers have: 4GB of RAM or less Dual Core CPU or less 2.69 Ghz CPU or less 1GB of VRAM or less LMaO :lol:lowe0
And most popular graphics chip is Intel HD 3000, which is worse from the current (soon last) gen consoles...
True, but this is made easier by Nvidia and AMD dividing the same pool of customers. Of course, this is also true of Sony and Microsoft. i wonder if it counts the integrated chip as well as the dedicated chip, if thats true these statistics can't be trusted, because almost everyone with sandy bridge or newer has some kind of integrated GPU[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]True, but this is made easier by Nvidia and AMD dividing the same pool of customers. Of course, this is also true of Sony and Microsoft. i wonder if it counts the integrated chip as well as the dedicated chip, if thats true these statistics can't be trusted, because almost everyone with sandy bridge or newer has some kind of integrated GPU
And most popular graphics chip is Intel HD 3000, which is worse from the current (soon last) gen consoles...
savagetwinkie
Steam survey is optional, what automatically implies that that survey doesn´t reflect the builds of the whole steam population. I, for example, own a gaming PC and don´t remember having been surveyed by Steam. Hence this survey is flawed.
Are there PC gamers here who had taken part in Steam´s hardware survey ?
PC devs seem to have gotten a few truckloads of sand in their vagina's after the ps4 was unveiled.
Just deal with it. Consoles are better.
PC devs seem to have gotten a few truckloads of sand in their vagina's after the ps4 was unveiled.
Just deal with it. Consoles are better.
MakeMeaSammitch
Here you have a specimen of "CONSOLITIS RETARDATIS"
i wonder if it counts the integrated chip as well as the dedicated chip, if thats true these statistics can't be trusted, because almost everyone with sandy bridge or newer has some kind of integrated GPU[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="lowe0"] True, but this is made easier by Nvidia and AMD dividing the same pool of customers. Of course, this is also true of Sony and Microsoft.jhonMalcovich
Steam survey is optional, what automatically implies that that survey doesn´t reflect the builds of the whole steam population. I, for example, own a gaming PC and don´t remember having been surveyed by Steam. Hence this survey is flawed.
Just like u haven't been surveyed neither have other users with low spec PC's. It all evens out in the endIt doesn't matter to me if they are or aren't more powerful.
There are too many pros to PC gaming beyond graphics that I can't ever see giving it up.
AmenPC devs seem to have gotten a few truckloads of sand in their vagina's after the ps4 was unveiled.
Just deal with it. Consoles are better.
MakeMeaSammitch
[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]AmenPC devs seem to have gotten a few truckloads of sand in their vagina's after the ps4 was unveiled.
Just deal with it. Consoles are better.
GioVela2010
Aren´t you a lemming, Giovela? You are betraying your platform of choice :P
Amen[QUOTE="GioVela2010"][QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]
PC devs seem to have gotten a few truckloads of sand in their vagina's after the ps4 was unveiled.
Just deal with it. Consoles are better.
jhonMalcovich
Aren´t you a lemming, Giovela? You are betraying your platform of choice :P
I'm a console god[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"] AmenGioVela2010
Aren´t you a lemming, Giovela? You are betraying your platform of choice :P
I'm a console godThen I am a PC Kratos :P
yeah i highly doubt that... most people DO NOT have a 8 core cpu and a hd 7860 gpu as a standard...far away from that... the ps4 is more powerful then 95% of people computers in their homesSteam surveys lol. OK anyone in system wars who claims to be a hermit has a decent gaming rig. Most already have a PC comparable to or better than nextgen consoles. So who cares about casual PC gamers. That would be like me saying that consoles players don't play in HD because the most popular console this Gen was the wii. Really who cares. Hardcore PC gamers get real gaming rigs juat like hardcore console gamers don't still game on ps2s.
NFJSupreme
[QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]yeah i highly doubt that... most people DO NOT have a 8 core cpu and a hd 7860 gpu as a standard...far away from that... the ps4 is more powerful then 95% of people computers in their homesSteam surveys lol. OK anyone in system wars who claims to be a hermit has a decent gaming rig. Most already have a PC comparable to or better than nextgen consoles. So who cares about casual PC gamers. That would be like me saying that consoles players don't play in HD because the most popular console this Gen was the wii. Really who cares. Hardcore PC gamers get real gaming rigs juat like hardcore console gamers don't still game on ps2s.
xboxiphoneps3
You talk as if millions of people own PS4s already or will own at least 19 million when it launches
also that 8 core CPU you're bragging about isn't something to be bragging about
from what I hear a core i3 with hyperthreading can outperform it
[QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]yeah i highly doubt that... most people DO NOT have a 8 core cpu and a hd 7860 gpu as a standard...far away from that... the ps4 is more powerful then 95% of people computers in their homesSteam surveys lol. OK anyone in system wars who claims to be a hermit has a decent gaming rig. Most already have a PC comparable to or better than nextgen consoles. So who cares about casual PC gamers. That would be like me saying that consoles players don't play in HD because the most popular console this Gen was the wii. Really who cares. Hardcore PC gamers get real gaming rigs juat like hardcore console gamers don't still game on ps2s.
xboxiphoneps3
And most console gamers have wiis so what is your point? Should I compare PC to the wii? Or what about when the ps4 is launched most console players will still have ps3s and 360s but you will come in here to shout about how good your ps4 is. Should I still talk about how most console players don't even have a new console? Your points don't matter. Fact is next Gen capable rigs are available to PC players right now. I have a rig that will be able to play multiplat nextgen games better than nextgen consoles right now. So why do I care about a steam survey? Just like when you get your ps4 you won't care that most console players will still have older consoles.
So yeah the ps4 is great but won't be better than my PC.
llol crytek we just need games and by the looks of it
wiiu and ps4 pack one big punch
- on a side note people should wake up and buy a wiiu because i guarantee you if you want 2 consoles 720 isnt going to be a good choice ,
ps4 and wiiu look to provide some big first party hits again this gen , and thats all i care for i dont care for ea ubi activision or any other third party in fac t if i did ubi rockstar volition and activision would be the only good ones on my list
yeah i highly doubt that... most people DO NOT have a 8 core cpu and a hd 7860 gpu as a standard...far away from that... the ps4 is more powerful then 95% of people computers in their homes[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]
Steam surveys lol. OK anyone in system wars who claims to be a hermit has a decent gaming rig. Most already have a PC comparable to or better than nextgen consoles. So who cares about casual PC gamers. That would be like me saying that consoles players don't play in HD because the most popular console this Gen was the wii. Really who cares. Hardcore PC gamers get real gaming rigs juat like hardcore console gamers don't still game on ps2s.
NoodleFighter
You talk as if millions of people own PS4s already or will own at least 19 million when it launches
also that 8 core CPU you're bragging about isn't something to be bragging about
from what I hear a core i3 with hyperthreading can outperform it
Actually a 4 core Jaguar clocked at the same speed as the i3 outperforms the i3.yeah i highly doubt that... most people DO NOT have a 8 core cpu and a hd 7860 gpu as a standard...far away from that... the ps4 is more powerful then 95% of people computers in their homes[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]
Steam surveys lol. OK anyone in system wars who claims to be a hermit has a decent gaming rig. Most already have a PC comparable to or better than nextgen consoles. So who cares about casual PC gamers. That would be like me saying that consoles players don't play in HD because the most popular console this Gen was the wii. Really who cares. Hardcore PC gamers get real gaming rigs juat like hardcore console gamers don't still game on ps2s.
NFJSupreme
And most console gamers have wiis so what is your point? Should I compare PC to the wii? Or what about when the ps4 is launched most console players will still have ps3s and 360s but you will come in here to shout about how good your ps4 is. Should I still talk about how most console players don't even have a new console? Your points don't matter. Fact is next Gen capable rigs are available to PC players right now. I have a rig that will be able to play multiplat nextgen games better than nextgen consoles right now. So why do I care about a steam survey? Just like when you get your ps4 you won't care that most console players will still have older consoles.
So yeah the ps4 is great but won't be better than my PC.
You may have better looking multiplat games but nothing on PC will compare to 1st party dev games on the PS4...it is what it is, taking advantage of set hardware> trying to configure for thousands of possible PC configurations[QUOTE="NFJSupreme"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] yeah i highly doubt that... most people DO NOT have a 8 core cpu and a hd 7860 gpu as a standard...far away from that... the ps4 is more powerful then 95% of people computers in their homesxboxiphoneps3
And most console gamers have wiis so what is your point? Should I compare PC to the wii? Or what about when the ps4 is launched most console players will still have ps3s and 360s but you will come in here to shout about how good your ps4 is. Should I still talk about how most console players don't even have a new console? Your points don't matter. Fact is next Gen capable rigs are available to PC players right now. I have a rig that will be able to play multiplat nextgen games better than nextgen consoles right now. So why do I care about a steam survey? Just like when you get your ps4 you won't care that most console players will still have older consoles.
So yeah the ps4 is great but won't be better than my PC.
You may have better looking multiplat games but nothing on PC will compare to 1st party dev games on the PS4...it is what it is, taking advantage of set hardware> trying to configure for thousands of possible PC configurationsLol. Nothing on consoles will ever compare to 1st party dev games on the PC. PC is about games, not interactive movies.
Starcraft 2
Total War: Rome 2
Chivalry
Red Orchestra 2
Arma 3
WoW
Star Citizen
and many others.
Console will never have these games. NEVER.
[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] yeah i highly doubt that... most people DO NOT have a 8 core cpu and a hd 7860 gpu as a standard...far away from that... the ps4 is more powerful then 95% of people computers in their homesxboxiphoneps3
You talk as if millions of people own PS4s already or will own at least 19 million when it launches
also that 8 core CPU you're bragging about isn't something to be bragging about
from what I hear a core i3 with hyperthreading can outperform it
Actually a 4 core Jaguar clocked at the same speed as the i3 outperforms the i3. Got benchmarks? :roll:Please Log In to post.
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