Current Gen Vs Last Gen

The PS2 alone is better then all 3 current gen consoles combined.

spookykid143

You're absolutely right. There aren't too many games this generation that can stand up to the games on the PS2. Games like Kingdom Hearts, Tales of the Abyss, Tales of Legendia, Dark Cloud, Sly Cooper, Jak and Daxter, Final Fantasy X, Final Fantasy XII, Rogue Galaxy and Zone of the Enders were all amazing games that I'd rather play than most of the crap on the current gen consoles.

I also hate motion control and 3D, both of those are pointless gimmicks. Motion control can still be fun with certain games such as Wii Sports, but 3D is utter garbage. It adds absolutely nothing to the experience, all it does it make the screen blurry and give you a headache. (And yes, when I tried 3D, I was wearing the glasses.) I don't understand why some people like 3D so much, at first I notice some depth, and I'm slightly impressed, but after about half a minute the depth goes away and it's just blurry.

Generic... sounds like JRPG's to me.

SaltyMeatballs

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...You were serious???...

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The PS2 alone is better then all 3 current gen consoles combined.

GeoffZak

You're absolutely right. There aren't too many games this generation that can stand up to the games on the PS2. Games like Kingdom Hearts, Tales of the Abyss, Tales of Legendia, Dark Cloud, Sly Cooper, Jak and Daxter, Final Fantasy X, Final Fantasy XII, Rogue Galaxy and Zone of the Enders were all amazing games that I'd rather play than most of the crap on the current gen consoles.

I also hate motion control and 3D, both of those are pointless gimmicks. Motion control can still be fun with certain games such as Wii Sports, but 3D is utter garbage. It adds absolutely nothing to the experience, all it does it make the screen blurry and give you a headache. (And yes, when I tried 3D, I was wearing the glasses.) I don't understand why some people like 3D so much, at first I notice some depth, and I'm slightly impressed, but after about half a minute the depth goes away and it's just blurry.

90% of the games you listed are just 'meh' in my opinion. No wonder you liked last gen better. Sorry but I would take games like The Witcher 2, Uncharted, Portal, Limbo, Mass Effect, Alan Wake, Braid, Dead Space, Assassin's Creed, Red Dead Redemption, Oblivion, L.A. Noire, Bioshock, and so on, far over any of those games.

Even though last gen holds my favorite game of all time, and many of the best games of all time, I would still say this generation is better.

There's much more variety.

Even though last gen holds my favorite game of all time, and many of the best games of all time, I would still say this generation is better.

There's much more variety.

theuncharted34

Even though last gen holds my favorite game of all time, and many of the best games of all time, I would still say this generation is better.

There's much more variety.

theuncharted34

Let me guess...Seaman?:lol:

My fav game from last gen was Wind Waker. Gosh that was an amazing game.

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People who are obsessed with Playstation would probably consider last gen better. I could never get into PS2. Had 2 at launch, loved Twisted Metal Black. Didn't like the feel of the controller and the games. DC, GC, and PC were the perfect combo for me.

There's no denying the handhelds are better this gen, and that Nintendo and MS were way more on their game this time around. I'd say even PC is much better this time around. Sue me.

I'm not immune to nostalgia, I'll admit that. But my nostalgia is for the arcades and the 8 and 16 bit eras of gaming... not for last gen. I can make very specific comparisons and arguments as to why I enjoyed my favorite games last gen rather than there counterparts today. None of this "the magic is lost" crap, but grounded reasoning.

I could go on and on about why NGB and even DMC3 spank every action game released this gen. I could right a book on the reasons FFX and FFXII make FFXIII look ridiculous. I could go on about how Chaos Theory still slaps the new SC games around. Same for MGS2/MGS3 vs. MGS4. RE4 vs RE5. I thought MP3 was outstanding, but MP and MP2 vs. MP3 and Other M? You know the answer to that.

Not to say this gen is all bad. Not at all. I really appreciate the revival of great platformers and fighting games. SMG2 and DKCR are both outstanding and the former happens to be one of the greatest games I've ever played.

It also depends on the person. If you really dig shooters, short "cinematic" experiences and watered down rpgs this gen is the one.

The types of games I always enjoyed are mostly a dying breed though. It has nothing to do with nostalgia my friend.

And I do remember all the garbage games of last gen. Just as I clearly see the garbage games of this gen. The Wii is loaded down with crap, but it doesnt stop me from enjoying whats great. I really dont know what that has to do with anything tbh.

sandbox3d

Well put and I certainly see your point. I have my favorites from the 8 and 16 bit era as well. I cannot tell you how many times I have beaten double dragon 3 and Streets of rage 2. You don't see that many quality beat em ups these days.

And I also agree with you that for many of those games, the sequels are not as good as earlier entries in the series. I think Square in particular, is just running out of creative steam. They are like a classic band that had a few good hits back in the day and just continue to release crappier and crappier albums.

I guess its just ridiculous how people, dismiss this gen as uncreative. Yeah there are a whole lot of shooters because that is what's selling right now. However, I can still find games to get my old-school gaming fix like castle crashers, Scott pilgrim, an ode to double dragon/river city ransom, and Hard corps, a decent sequel to the best contra game ever!!

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Even though last gen holds my favorite game of all time, and many of the best games of all time, I would still say this generation is better.

There's much more variety.

gamecubepad

Let me guess...Seaman?:lol:

My fav game from last gen was Wind Waker. Gosh that was an amazing game.

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People who are obsessed with Playstation would probably consider last gen better. I could never get into PS2. Had 2 at launch, loved Twisted Metal Black. Didn't like the feel of the controller and the games. DC, GC, and PC were the perfect combo for me.

There's no denying the handhelds are better this gen, and that Nintendo and MS were way more on their game this time around. I'd say even PC is much better this time around. Sue me.

That creepy game on the dreamcast? no. :P

My favorite game is Paper mario TTYD, such a masterpiece.

My favorite game is Paper mario TTYD, such a masterpiece.

theuncharted34

Nice. GC was awesome. Loved the Wavebird. Great controller(eat it, haters!).:P

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

My favorite game is Paper mario TTYD, such a masterpiece.

gamecubepad

Nice. GC was awesome. Loved the Wavebird. Great controller(eat it, haters!).:P

Yeah it really was an amazing system. It was built like a tank, had an amazing first party lineup with good third party support, and a great controller.

Though I've never actually used the Wavebird :P

Yeah it really was an amazing system. It was built like a tank, had an amazing first party lineup with good third party support, and a great controller.

Though I've never actually used the Wavebird :P

theuncharted34

Agreed.

The Wavebird was much better than the original controller, but it had no rumble.:shock: They claimed it was to conserve battery, yet the Wiimote and X360 controller have rumble.

[QUOTE="johnlennon28"]this has been discussed many times, and last gen games wins when it comes to story and game experience, this gen is just all about graphics and online multiplayerkalipekona

Complete and utter BS. ...at least in my opinion. This gen is FAR better than last gen--it's not even a contest. The breadth and diversity of games available today greatly surpasses previous generations. Creative indy games are thriving this generation and were practically nonexistent last generation. Even the big-budget games are of a higher quality and generally more enjoyable to me. From my perspective I can't imagine how anybody could believe that last gen was better than the current gen. I have to assume such people are merely seeing things through the rose-tinted glasses of nostalgia.

Current gen 4 me:)

The gen just feels like last gen minus the ps2 to be honest.. I think all three consoles are better than the original xbox, and gamecube... But none of them hold a candle to the ps2..

It boils down to this.. If you like western style games then clearly this gen is better than any before it for you

however, if you like Japanese games, then this gen blows because they are practically none existent now.. It all comes back to the ps3 being a disappointment. No matter how you look at it, it is massively underwhelming in terms of what it should be. Its a japanese system yet all its support is from western developers. I like the ps3 but it should have been SOOO much more than what it was.. the mistakes Sony made at the beginning of this generation were just to big to overcome.. They performed so badly that japanese developers and games said screw this we'll just play the handhelds.

Hopefully the start of next gen will help coax the japanese back to the console market... Because it has nothing to do with cost or inablility to produce games on these next gen systems, its just the effort isn't there.. They love the handhelds over in japan so much that there is just no reason for them to put more effort developing something that will sell less copies than if they put it on the handhelds..

THough this could change with the refresh of a new console cycle. Hopefully stuff like the WiiU and the PS4 will do enough to draw gamers attention back into the console space, though they need to get things right because BOTH Sony and Nintendo failed soo hard this generation in terms of delivering a viable gaming platform for their own developers and gamers.

Genres that thrived last gen: Platformers and JRPGs.

Genres that thrived this gen: WRPGs, TPS and FPS.

I'd say I like last gen better :P

And for people who are missing "last gen", I'd urge you guys to try out handhelds (PSP and DS). I have both and I'm very much satisfied with them.

It's like all the JRPGs/Platformers are all developedthere instead. :P

I have yet to find any JRPG as much interesting as TWEWY and Crisis Corein current genconsoless

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="hadoken"]i remember the morning after buying a BRAND NEW N64 game i always thought YES!!!! time to play paper mario etc. i dont get those feelings anymore. most of these games suck nowadays. the SNES and N64 days were the bestAdvocate918

thats exactly what im saying i use to be excited to play a new game now its like.....hey i got a new game

This is called nostalgia, and it's playing tricks on you. There are a ton of kids who are going to say this exact same thing about current gen games 5-10 years from now.

The gen just feels like last gen minus the ps2 to be honest.. I think all three consoles are better than the original xbox, and gamecube... But none of them hold a candle to the ps2..

It boils down to this.. If you like western style games then clearly this gen is better than any before it for you

however, if you like Japanese games, then this gen blows because they are practically none existent now.. It all comes back to the ps3 being a disappointment. No matter how you look at it, it is massively underwhelming in terms of what it should be. Its a japanese system yet all its support is from western developers. I like the ps3 but it should have been SOOO much more than what it was.. the mistakes Sony made at the beginning of this generation were just to big to overcome.. They performed so badly that japanese developers and games said screw this we'll just play the handhelds.

Hopefully the start of next gen will help coax the japanese back to the console market... Because it has nothing to do with cost or inablility to produce games on these next gen systems, its just the effort isn't there.. They love the handhelds over in japan so much that there is just no reason for them to put more effort developing something that will sell less copies than if they put it on the handhelds..

THough this could change with the refresh of a new console cycle. Hopefully stuff like the WiiU and the PS4 will do enough to draw gamers attention back into the console space, though they need to get things right because BOTH Sony and Nintendo failed soo hard this generation in terms of delivering a viable gaming platform for their own developers and gamers.

VendettaRed07

I second this.

It really depends on the genre. WRPG and TPS are a lot better this gen, while FPS and JRPG were a lot better last gen. Hack n' slash, platformers, and action/adventure have both been pretty stagnate (whether or not that's a good thing depends on the person).

FFX alone is better than all games this gen in almost everyway

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

The gen just feels like last gen minus the ps2 to be honest.. I think all three consoles are better than the original xbox, and gamecube... But none of them hold a candle to the ps2..

It boils down to this.. If you like western style games then clearly this gen is better than any before it for you

however, if you like Japanese games, then this gen blows because they are practically none existent now.. It all comes back to the ps3 being a disappointment. No matter how you look at it, it is massively underwhelming in terms of what it should be. Its a japanese system yet all its support is from western developers. I like the ps3 but it should have been SOOO much more than what it was.. the mistakes Sony made at the beginning of this generation were just to big to overcome.. They performed so badly that japanese developers and games said screw this we'll just play the handhelds.

Hopefully the start of next gen will help coax the japanese back to the console market... Because it has nothing to do with cost or inablility to produce games on these next gen systems, its just the effort isn't there.. They love the handhelds over in japan so much that there is just no reason for them to put more effort developing something that will sell less copies than if they put it on the handhelds..

THough this could change with the refresh of a new console cycle. Hopefully stuff like the WiiU and the PS4 will do enough to draw gamers attention back into the console space, though they need to get things right because BOTH Sony and Nintendo failed soo hard this generation in terms of delivering a viable gaming platform for their own developers and gamers.

Kashiwaba

I second this.

I think I just enjoyed games more when I was younger tbh. There's a lot of quality to be found in this gen but I just no longer find gaming as encaptivating as I once did. But yes I do agree the games of last gen were better than this current one.

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

The gen just feels like last gen minus the ps2 to be honest.. I think all three consoles are better than the original xbox, and gamecube... But none of them hold a candle to the ps2..

It boils down to this.. If you like western style games then clearly this gen is better than any before it for you

however, if you like Japanese games, then this gen blows because they are practically none existent now.. It all comes back to the ps3 being a disappointment. No matter how you look at it, it is massively underwhelming in terms of what it should be. Its a japanese system yet all its support is from western developers. I like the ps3 but it should have been SOOO much more than what it was.. the mistakes Sony made at the beginning of this generation were just to big to overcome.. They performed so badly that japanese developers and games said screw this we'll just play the handhelds.

Hopefully the start of next gen will help coax the japanese back to the console market... Because it has nothing to do with cost or inablility to produce games on these next gen systems, its just the effort isn't there.. They love the handhelds over in japan so much that there is just no reason for them to put more effort developing something that will sell less copies than if they put it on the handhelds..

THough this could change with the refresh of a new console cycle. Hopefully stuff like the WiiU and the PS4 will do enough to draw gamers attention back into the console space, though they need to get things right because BOTH Sony and Nintendo failed soo hard this generation in terms of delivering a viable gaming platform for their own developers and gamers.

thom_maytees

I second this.

Add to that, Handhelds are 10000% easier to develop for especially for JPRGs.

You don't need really crazy graphics to stand out unlike in consoles.Lower development time, lower cost, almost similar sales.

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FFX alone is better than all games this gen in almost everyway

SNIPER4321

wow this thread got o big......time to start reading lol

I think it has to do with you growing up...sethman410

im starting to think that BUT then that would defeat the purpose of me going to school and wanting to make games so i dont think thats the main reason, i honesstly believe the focus of this gen was everything else EXCEPT games

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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

This gen is a lot better.

Lto_thaG

care to share how so?

well just disregard the whole thread then since this is about discussion you just said your opinion with a baseless statement for no reason at all

Boring nostalgia thread where the OP ignores the fact that last gen he was an excitable pre-teen and now he's older, has more perspective and is no longer bouncing around on Christmas morning.

Monarch117

i was really young last gen but im 18 now im still considered a minor....

and if its boring dont comment its really annoying other people will enjoy it

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If you keep going back to your old games does that count as nostalgia? or simply that new games doesn't hold your interest long enough?

GD1551

Nah I think new games don't have much staying power aside from certain PC titles and fighting games.

i didnt say i go back to old games they just dont hold interest i hoestly gripe to finishing a game now besides DKCR that im playing now its incredible....oh and infamous 1 idk why that game is awesome

FFX alone is better than all games this gen in almost everyway

HaloinventedFPS

This gen is much, much better.

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="hadoken"]i remember the morning after buying a BRAND NEW N64 game i always thought YES!!!! time to play paper mario etc. i dont get those feelings anymore. most of these games suck nowadays. the SNES and N64 days were the bestAdvocate918

thats exactly what im saying i use to be excited to play a new game now its like.....hey i got a new game

This is called nostalgia, and it's playing tricks on you. There are a ton of kids who are going to say this exact same thing about current gen games 5-10 years from now.

i dont get how its nostalgia when SMG had me pumped and Brawl had me waiting online midnight for it....its not nostalgia the games with the "IT" factor for me is far in between then last gen

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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Even though last gen holds my favorite game of all time, and many of the best games of all time, I would still say this generation is better.

There's much more variety.

theuncharted34

Let me guess...Seaman?:lol:

My fav game from last gen was Wind Waker. Gosh that was an amazing game.

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People who are obsessed with Playstation would probably consider last gen better. I could never get into PS2. Had 2 at launch, loved Twisted Metal Black. Didn't like the feel of the controller and the games. DC, GC, and PC were the perfect combo for me.

There's no denying the handhelds are better this gen, and that Nintendo and MS were way more on their game this time around. I'd say even PC is much better this time around. Sue me.

That creepy game on the dreamcast? no. :P

My favorite game is Paper mario TTYD, such a masterpiece.

i second this people dont understand how great the paper mario series actually is its incredible

The last generation was miles better than the current generation.

This generation devs rely too much on pretty graphics as a major selling point for their games.

Consoles are being plagued by boring cookie cutter shooters. There's no originality when every FPS tries to be like Modern Warfare and every TPS tries to be like Gears of War.

Single player campaigns are too short, I'd say the average campaign in a shooter takes anywhere in between 6-12 hours to beat. That would take about a week to finish. So after you finish the campaign, you're bored with the game, what's left to do? Playing the campaign again is no fun beause 90% of the fun is not knowing what's gonna happen next. There is online multiplayer, but playing the same deathmatch is only fun for a few rounds, because it's the same repetitive thing over and over again. Charging you $60 for a game that short should be a crime.

The PS2 is better than all three of the current gen consoles. I'd much rather play Tales of the Abyss, Tales of Legendia, Final Fantasy XII, Final Fantasy X, Jak and Daxter, Sly Cooper, Rogue Galaxy or Zone of the Enders than most of what the PS3, 360 or Wii have to offer.

There was more originality back then, games were better and took more than a week to finish.

That's not to say that this generation is utter garbage and that the PS3, 360 and Wii are the equivalent of the Nintendo Virtual Boy. There are still plenty of good games this generation, the gems of this generation are the more obscure titles. Those would be games like Braid, Amensia the Dark Descent and White Knight Chronicles. You know, the kind of games that a "brogamer" has never heard of.

The brogamer is also a major flaw, they've always been around, but it feels like there's more of them this generation. But that's another story.

Even though last gen holds my favorite game of all time, and many of the best games of all time, I would still say this generation is better.

There's much more variety.

theuncharted34

How is there more variety exactly?

Things I dont like:

Online is distracting dev's from making a decent single player game

DLC fee's

Casual games

The Wii

Too many games are trying to be COD

Achievements/trophies are not a good way to add replay value to a game

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Even though last gen holds my favorite game of all time, and many of the best games of all time, I would still say this generation is better.

There's much more variety.

GD1551

How is there more variety exactly?

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Even though last gen holds my favorite game of all time, and many of the best games of all time, I would still say this generation is better.

There's much more variety.

The_Gaming_Baby

How is there more variety exactly?

[QUOTE="The_Gaming_Baby"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

How is there more variety exactly?

Microsoft1234

I think he was being sarcastic when he listed those.

[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"][QUOTE="The_Gaming_Baby"] COD, Killzone, Halo, Homefront, Medal of Honor, Resistance GD1551

I think he was being sarcastic when he listed those.

I much prefer this gen over the last.

There are a lot of great titles from last gen that I just couldn't live without: Final Fantasy XII, The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, Metroid Prime, etc.

But this gen has offered me many more great, polished experiencs and has really given me games when I want them. Got my God of War, which admit wasn't as good as the second one but was a lot of fun, yet other adventure titles have been fantastic like Castlevania, Assassin's Creed or Batman. Great third person shooters with many differences: Uncharted, Dead Space and Gears of War are very different games. And then you have the abundance of FPS but with many differences. Call of Duty, Halo and Bioshock are all very different games and all are fantastic games. RPGs? We have many WRPGs but JRPGs are lacking, something that has surely brought down this gen but we still got Lost Odyssey and FFXIII was mixed but I enjoyed it. Platformers? Sly 4 coming, we've had two Super Mario Galaxy games and LittleBigPlanet was a great new addition to the genre.

So again, this gen is better than last gen in my opinion.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Even though last gen holds my favorite game of all time, and many of the best games of all time, I would still say this generation is better.

There's much more variety.

GD1551

How is there more variety exactly?

-XBLA, PSN, WiiWare/VC

-Full maturation of DD like Steam/D2D

-Xbox and GC had no BC while all systems have it in some form this gen

-DS and PSP brought way more content and variety than GBA

-Cell phones, online portals, OnLive

-Motion controls on every system(Wiimote, Kinect, Move)

-Much better online support and integration

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I can get on XBLA and have access to so many awesome games like Braid, Castle Crashers, Super Meat Boy, Shadow Complex, ect. Not to mention XBLIG games.

I agree with VendettaRed. PS2 used to be a one-stop-shop last gen. This gen it's much more spread out. A lot of Japanese devs went to DS and PSP.

Don't see it that way? That's cool with me.8)

I think what a lot of people tend to forget when talking about this is that everything was better when you were a kid. So if a 9 year old gets a new game he will be thrilled with it while a 19 year old might not be.

ShyGuy0504

I think what a lot of people tend to forget when talking about this is that everything was better when you were a kid. So if a 9 year old gets a new game he will be thrilled with it while a 19 year old might not be.

ShyGuy0504

I think what a lot of people tend to forget when talking about this is that everything was better when you were a kid. So if a 9 year old gets a new game he will be thrilled with it while a 19 year old might not be.

ShyGuy0504

There was a lot more depth last gen and as a Nintendo fan last gen was definitely better, there is a lot of quantity this gen that said and I think the most important thing to do is try and limit yourself to the best quality (and not get too worried about finishing a bad game for points or trophies).

I don't know if I could say that last gen is much better than this one. I sometimes think about which gen was better and it's a hard answer. I think last gen meant more to me as a gamer and had literally TONS of great games. This one does as well not mention motion control, HD visuals, and legitimate online experiences. Really tough call. They're both great!

i always find these nostalgia threads amusing.

people seem to only remember the great things about last gen and then compare them about the bad things from this gen.

its the nostalgia filter. it filters out the rubbish stuff from last gen so you feel that everything last gen was amazing which is just not true. last gen had it fair share of crap games.

you guy will most likely be saying the samething next gen.