CVG: Killzone "ruined E3".

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#1 the-very-best
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CVG has a preview on Killzone for PS3 and wow, they are impressed. I picked out the highlights but click on the link if you want to read the full preview.

The demo begins in the realistic, intricately-rendered clouds high above Helghan, the home planet of the evil Helghast army. You and your squad, a troop of ISA Special Forces soldiers called The Legion, are flying towards the planet's surface on the back of a Vektan cruiser. The scene is almost identical to the one shown in the 2005 trailer and it looks absolutely incredible. The soldiers are particularly impressive, with detailed clothing textures and expressive facial animations. You can actually see them psyche themselves up for the battle ahead.

It's instantly clear how different Killzone 2 is from most other first-person shooters. It's so robust and dynamic. Surfaces shatter and crumble when your bullets hit them, characters move realistically through the environment with weighty animations and the levels are densely packed with detail and spot effects like power lines wobbling in the wind. While a lot of the set-pieces in Resistance and Call Of Duty 3 were amazing, it felt like more like you were a spectator rather than actually taking part. Killzone 2 changes all of this.

Killzone 2 was almost everything we'd hoped for, and miles ahead of what we secretly feared - not bad, for a relatively tame third level. The primary emotion, relief, was soon replaced with a tingling delight that Sony had lived up to the standards of that E3 2005 trailer.

In 30 minutes, Sony transformed the perception of PS3 from an overpriced extravagance populated by me-too Xbox 360 ports, one of the most exciting, important consoles in the world. It doesn't have any gimmicks - time travel, performance-enhancing drugs, or gravity guns. Its 'novelty' is good looks, intensity, and how it single-handedly shames absolutely almost everything rival consoles had to offer. That said, it's the second time aKillzone 2 trailer has ruined E3 - this time for making almost every other game look so terrifyingly ordinary.

What do you guys think?

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#2 bulletmath
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beautiful game

but it's still killzone

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#3 the-very-best
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beautiful game

but it's still killzone

bulletmath

Seems to be a huge improvement over the original. Looks like the 120 dev team and $40 million budget is going to make a solid FPS for the PS3.

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#4 Ibacai
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I wouldn't go as far as to say that KZ made everything look ordinary but KZ did look freaking amazing.
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#5 Kahuna_1
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MGS4 and GT5 stole the show.
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#6 the-very-best
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I wouldn't go as far as to say that KZ made everything look ordinary but KZ did look freaking amazing.Ibacai

Agreed. I think graphically the game is outstanding, but I still have concerns over the gameplay. I think it's going to turn out really well. I love the gritty atmosphere the game seems to have going on.

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#7 Timstuff
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Killzone 1 = team of 30 people

Killzone 2 = team of 120 people with a 40 million dollar budget

It clearly makes a difference. ;)

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#8 tskeeve
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They sound really impressed. Like, about as impressed as anyone can get over a videogame trailer.

I'm pretty psyched about this game, hope they reveal some more on the gameplay soon.

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#9 walkerctranger
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hopefully this and red steel2 will be major improvements over the previous games.
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#10 Ibacai
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[QUOTE="Ibacai"]I wouldn't go as far as to say that KZ made everything look ordinary but KZ did look freaking amazing.the-very-best

Agreed. I think graphically the game is outstanding, but I still have concerns over the gameplay. I think it's going to turn out really well. I love the gritty atmosphere the game seems to have going on.

You know, I had no problems with the gameplay in the first KZ. It would have been a very good game if not for all of the technical problems.
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#11 tonythestudent
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Can't wait for KZ2. Wasn't really a fan of the first, hope the second is better :D
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#12 bulletmath
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Seems to be a huge improvement over the original. Looks like the 120 dev team and $40 million budget is going to make a solid FPS for the PS3.

the-very-best

It is probably the most improved sequel i have ever seen as far as first impressions go, but given the horrendous original that's not saying much

and throwing money at a game doesn't always result in success. Look at Too Human (rofl)

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#13 II-FBIsniper-II
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It does look really good but I'm still not sold that it will be an AAA game.
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#14 Ragashahs
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:D

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#15 the-very-best
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You know, I had no problems with the gameplay in the first KZ. It would have been a very good game if not for all of the technical problems.Ibacai

I didn't hate the original.

My main problems with it were that it just felt rushed, too many glitches, nothing really unique about the game. But I did really like the realism and the MP wasn't too bad.

Definitely a whole lot of room for improvement. Looks like GG is going to get it right this time.

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#16 the-very-best
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It does look really good but I'm still not sold that it will be an AAA game.II-FBIsniper-II

Likewise, but I do think it's going to get AA.


It is probably the most improved sequel i have ever seen as far as first impressions go, but given the horrendous original that's not saying much and throwing money at a game doesn't always result in success. Look at Too Human (rofl)
bulletmath

I didn't think the original was "horrendous", just needed a "few coats of paint" as Gamespot said. It could have been allright if not rushed.

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#17 Goliath_unit
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It looks like an amazing game, and the graphics are stunning.

If I get the PS3, I may buy Killzone 2. But, we'll have to see if the actual game is good too. We can't judge the game by its graphics.

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#18 liquidus1snake
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KNOW ONE KNOWS HOW KILLZONE 2'S GAMEPLAY IS GOING TO BE FUN OR NOT.

BUT LETS GET THIS CLEAR.

IT IS NOT HALO.

I REPEAT.

ITS NOTHING LIKE HALO'S GAMEPLAY.

SO IF THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS ARE EXPECTING, THEN I GUESS YOU LIKE UNREALISTIC GAMEPLAY SPRAY AND PRAY GAMES.

I EXPECT KILLZONE'S GAMEPLAY TO BE MORE ALONG THE LINES OF COUNTERSTRIKE WITH FIRST PERSON COVER SYSTEM

REASONS ARE...

RECOIL.

CROSSHAIR EXPANDS.

NO STAR WARS WEAPONS.

NO SPRAY N' PRAY FROM MID TO LONG RANGE. IT'LL ACTUALLY TAKE SKILL TO KILL SOMEONE FROM AFAR

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#19 Sooshy
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I think it looks great.
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#20 PayDaMurdaMan
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I will be getting this game if the reviews are good (and no I don't base my my game purchases on reviews but I bought the first one before I read anything). I only wish companies would put more in to the game then just graphics (ala GeOW).
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#21 d-suhiti
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It's written by a PlayStation magazine.

Go figure :roll:

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#22 Prid3r
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Killzone 1 = team of 30 people

Killzone 2 = team of 120 people with a 40 million dollar budget

It clearly makes a difference. ;)

Timstuff

guess why they need more people ? PS3 codes .

Guess what more ? GeoW had a team of 40 people . And know what ? RFOM had about 100 people working on it , and yet , GeoW > RFOM .

my point ?

Your logic is flawed .

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#23 Ibacai
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It's written by a PlayStation magazine.

Go figure :roll:

d-suhiti
CVG is a playstation magazine? Did I miss something?
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#24 Heil68
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Looked good, now the gameplay has to match the graphics.
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#25 liquidus1snake
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I will be getting this game if the reviews are good (and no I don't base my my game purchases on reviews but I bought the first one before I read anything). I only wish companies would put more in to the game then just graphics (ala GeOW).PayDaMurdaMan

WELL YOU CAN ONLY MAKE THE GAMEPLAY SO GOOD.

THIS IS A HONEST QUESTION.

IF YOU WERE THE LEAD GAMEPLAY DEV FOR KILLZONE 2, HOW WOULD YOU MAKE IT BETTER?

PS. TRY NOT TO ADD ANY HALO GAMEPLAY ASPECTS INTO IT.

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#26 TrueReligion_
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Killzone 2 is the only console FPS I will get.
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#27 Sooshy
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[QUOTE="d-suhiti"]

It's written by a PlayStation magazine.

Go figure :roll:

Ibacai
CVG is a playstation magazine? Did I miss something?

PSM3 is part of the CVG network. The article is from PSM3.
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[QUOTE="d-suhiti"]

It's written by a PlayStation magazine.

Go figure :roll:

Ibacai

CVG is a playstation magazine? Did I miss something?

I was wondering that until I saw this at the end of the article:

Daniel Dawnkins PSM3 Magazine

I don't understand. does that mean the preview was made by the guy from the magazine, or is that unrelated?

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#29 d-suhiti
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[QUOTE="d-suhiti"]

It's written by a PlayStation magazine.

Go figure :roll:

Ibacai

CVG is a playstation magazine? Did I miss something?

They post articles from magazines such as OXM, PC Gamer, PSN etc...I think they are just like a publishing group - just like GameSpot and CNET.

That article was written by a PlayStation magazine, just like it says at the top of the page!!

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#30 Ibacai
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[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="d-suhiti"]

It's written by a PlayStation magazine.

Go figure :roll:

Sooshy
CVG is a playstation magazine? Did I miss something?

PSM3 is part of the CVG network. The article is from PSM3.

Ahh I see.
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#31 d-suhiti
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Killzone 2 is the only console FPS I will get. TrueReligion_

That's a shame...

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#32 Ibacai
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[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="d-suhiti"] It's written by a PlayStation magazine.Go figure :roll:d-suhiti
CVG is a playstation magazine? Did I miss something?

They post articles from magazines such as OXM, PC Gamer, PSN etc...I think they are just like a publishing group - just like GameSpot and CNET.That article was written by a PlayStation magazine, just like it says at the top of the page!!

I don't read game magazines very often so I didn't even know what the PSM3 meant.
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:D

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I love the fire and smoke effects in this game.

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#34 TrueReligion_
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[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]Killzone 2 is the only console FPS I will get. d-suhiti

That's a shame...

And why is that? Please elaborate.

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[QUOTE="d-suhiti"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="d-suhiti"] It's written by a PlayStation magazine.Go figure :roll:Ibacai
CVG is a playstation magazine? Did I miss something?

They post articles from magazines such as OXM, PC Gamer, PSN etc...I think they are just like a publishing group - just like GameSpot and CNET.That article was written by a PlayStation magazine, just like it says at the top of the page!!

I don't read game magazines very often so I didn't even know what the PSM3 meant.

Yeh thats Ok man. I dont read game mags either - I just know that its a PS magazine...

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[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]

:D

Sparky04

I love the fire and smoke effects in this game.

man, that is an amazing shot!

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[QUOTE="PayDaMurdaMan"]I will be getting this game if the reviews are good (and no I don't base my my game purchases on reviews but I bought the first one before I read anything). I only wish companies would put more in to the game then just graphics (ala GeOW).liquidus1snake

WELL YOU CAN ONLY MAKE THE GAMEPLAY SO GOOD.

THIS IS A HONEST QUESTION.

IF YOU WERE THE LEAD GAMEPLAY DEV FOR KILLZONE 2, HOW WOULD YOU MAKE IT BETTER?

PS. TRY NOT TO ADD ANY HALO GAMEPLAY ASPECTS INTO IT.

I'm not saying that KZ2's game play will suck. I'm making more of a generalisation here. Its just that most games that come out are cookie cutter games with good graphics. I want to see more physics, smarter A.I., fully destructable inviorments that act like their really world counter parts. If I got those things I would not care what the graphics looked like.
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#38 liquidus1snake
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[QUOTE="liquidus1snake"]

[QUOTE="PayDaMurdaMan"]I will be getting this game if the reviews are good (and no I don't base my my game purchases on reviews but I bought the first one before I read anything). I only wish companies would put more in to the game then just graphics (ala GeOW).PayDaMurdaMan

WELL YOU CAN ONLY MAKE THE GAMEPLAY SO GOOD.

THIS IS A HONEST QUESTION.

IF YOU WERE THE LEAD GAMEPLAY DEV FOR KILLZONE 2, HOW WOULD YOU MAKE IT BETTER?

PS. TRY NOT TO ADD ANY HALO GAMEPLAY ASPECTS INTO IT.

I'm not saying that KZ2's game play will suck. I'm making more of a generalisation here. Its just that most games that come out are cookie cutter games with good graphics. I want to see more physics, smarter A.I., fully destructable inviorments that act like their really world counter parts. If I got those things I would not care what the graphics looked like.

BUT YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY BELIEVE THAT THE REAL AI FOR KILLZONE. IT DEFINATELY LOOKED LIKE IT WAS IN ROOKIE OR EASY MODE.

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#39 DSgamer64
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I wish there was more colour to this game to be quite honest, however it does indeed look fantastic otherwise.
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#40 ff7isnumbaone
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I hate the fact that poeple down the game because of the first 1. ALl the problems they had for ps2 shouldn't happen this time because they got money, time, experinces and more devs. Killzone despite the fact it wasn't as popular as halo, still has a good amount of fans.
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:D

Ragashahs

Man that looks freaking awesome. The lighting effects are amazing. I am curious as to know whether this game is being developed using UE3 as it's engine, cause there are quite a lot of textures on screen at once and a normal engine could not do all of that easily without strain on the system.

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#42 ff7isnumbaone
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[QUOTE="PayDaMurdaMan"][QUOTE="liquidus1snake"]

[QUOTE="PayDaMurdaMan"]I will be getting this game if the reviews are good (and no I don't base my my game purchases on reviews but I bought the first one before I read anything). I only wish companies would put more in to the game then just graphics (ala GeOW).liquidus1snake

WELL YOU CAN ONLY MAKE THE GAMEPLAY SO GOOD.

THIS IS A HONEST QUESTION.

IF YOU WERE THE LEAD GAMEPLAY DEV FOR KILLZONE 2, HOW WOULD YOU MAKE IT BETTER?

PS. TRY NOT TO ADD ANY HALO GAMEPLAY ASPECTS INTO IT.

I'm not saying that KZ2's game play will suck. I'm making more of a generalisation here. Its just that most games that come out are cookie cutter games with good graphics. I want to see more physics, smarter A.I., fully destructable inviorments that act like their really world counter parts. If I got those things I would not care what the graphics looked like.

BUT YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY BELIEVE THAT THE REAL AI FOR KILLZONE. IT DEFINATELY LOOKED LIKE IT WAS IN ROOKIE OR EASY MODE.

lol i think most game demos are shown on easy mode. It would be retareded if the person couldn't beat the game, they wouldn't be able show the game off.

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how much does a game normally cost to make?

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[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]

:D

DSgamer64

Man that looks freaking awesome. The lighting effects are amazing. I am curious as to know whether this game is being developed using UE3 as it's engine, cause there are quite a lot of textures on screen at once and a normal engine could not do all of that easily without strain on the system.

Killzone 2 uses it own new engine built from the ground up. Very impressive stuff.

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[QUOTE="DSgamer64"][QUOTE="Ragashahs"]

:D

Cedmln

Man that looks freaking awesome. The lighting effects are amazing. I am curious as to know whether this game is being developed using UE3 as it's engine, cause there are quite a lot of textures on screen at once and a normal engine could not do all of that easily without strain on the system.

Killzone 2 uses it own new engine built from the ground up. Very impressive stuff.

And your not seeing normal maps in that, its all polygonal detail

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#46 DSgamer64
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[QUOTE="DSgamer64"][QUOTE="Ragashahs"]

:D

Cedmln

Man that looks freaking awesome. The lighting effects are amazing. I am curious as to know whether this game is being developed using UE3 as it's engine, cause there are quite a lot of textures on screen at once and a normal engine could not do all of that easily without strain on the system.

Killzone 2 uses it own new engine built from the ground up. Very impressive stuff.

I just hope for the cows sake that it plays as well as it looks, the first was a bit disappointing for me and was a very average FPS (GS rated it too harshly though imo), kinda reminds me of Red Steel which was not so great but still got under rated for what it was worth, as it was still a decent game.

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#47 Killfox
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MGS4 and GT5 stole the show.Kahuna_1

Even with how cool killzone looked. MGS4 just blew me away. I had been waiting for gameplay just as long as killzone gameplay and the MGS4 looks sick. It really blew me away. GT5 just blew every other racing game out of the water while having a ton of cars on screen at the same time. They have the most natural looking car models ever. Not over done HDR models that kind of look arcadish. Forza2. Still love the game. Dont like the style.

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#49 Hungry_Homer111
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I don't like the PS3, and don't plan to ever get one. But if I did ever get one, I'd definitely get this game. This is one of the few PS3 games that actually looks good to me.
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#50 glitchgeeman
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Well, at least it looks more promising than the 1st one. Still, I don't get why everyone is acting as though it's a guaranteed 10/10. It lookspretty goodto be sure, but personally, it didn't blow away the competition at E3 in my opinion.