DA2 PC graphics are horrible.

[QUOTE="sandeep410"]Just tried the Demo, apparently you cant use High settings without having a Direct X 11 capable graphics card. And medium settings looked worst than DA high settings. Heck it was looking like a PS2 game.tagyhag

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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] If the demo was any representation of the final game, it would rate somewhere 7/10.GeneralShowzer

I don't understand your judgement for this demo at all. All it leads me to believe is that your expectations were extremely high...for a 30 min demo. There is no way you can analyze this game to death only playing 2 dungeon sections.

Your claim that the action is "too fast" is instantly destroyed by the fact that you can pause the game. I'm actually wondering if you have even played orgins considering that you didn't even seem to know about the pause feature.

Nothing about the combat is dumbed down from what I have seen. Bioware made it more dynamic and improved the hit detection for better tactics.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

I don't understand your judgement for this demo at all. All it leads me to believe is that your expectations were extremely high...for a 30 min demo. There is no way you can analyze this game to death only playing 2 dungeon sections.

JangoWuzHere

Your claim that the action is "too fast" is instaintly destroyed by the fact that you can pause the game. I'm actually wondering if you have even played orgins considering that you didn't even seem to know about the pause feature.

Nothing about th combat is dumbed down from what I have seen. Bioware made it more dynamic and improved the hit detection for better tactics.

Just tried the Demo, apparently you cant use High settings without having a Direct X 11 capable graphics card. And medium settings looked worst than DA high settings. Heck it was looking like a PS2 game.sandeep410

I can't judge the whole game but you can judge the combat. Which is just dumbed down, and too fast to really set up any tactics. And the visuals which are eye soring. GeneralShowzer

You can't fully judge the gameplay in the demo. It's locked at normal difficulty which for those who have played these kind of games before is just easy difficulty so yeah you do not need to think too much about tactics. As for too fast, PAUSE. Seriously how the hell are you guys playing this game on pc.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

I don't understand your judgement for this demo at all. All it leads me to believe is that your expectations were extremely high...for a 30 min demo. There is no way you can analyze this game to death only playing 2 dungeon sections.

JangoWuzHere

Your claim that the action is "too fast" is instantly destroyed by the fact that you can pause the game. I'm actually wondering if you have even played orgins considering that you didn't even seem to know about the pause feature.

Nothing about the combat is dumbed down from what I have seen. Bioware made it more dynamic and improved the hit detection for better tactics.

They did nothing but dumb it down, and for some reason everyone have the same stun spells and the same aoe spells.

It doesn't work. The camera is too inept, and the game is too fast to be tactical. That's not just my impression.

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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Well yes our expectations were high. It had a 91 metacritic, was the best PC game of 2009, and a sequel should only improve. I can't judge the whole game but you can judge the combat. Which is just dumbed down, and too fast to really set up any tactics. And the visuals which are eye soring. GeneralShowzer

Your claim that the action is "too fast" is instantly destroyed by the fact that you can pause the game. I'm actually wondering if you have even played orgins considering that you didn't even seem to know about the pause feature.

Nothing about the combat is dumbed down from what I have seen. Bioware made it more dynamic and improved the hit detection for better tactics.

I don't even need to read the rest of your post. The pause feature works just fine, most of your complaints are about tactics it seems. If you learned how to use the pause then you wouldn't be having so much trouble.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Your claim that the action is "too fast" is instantly destroyed by the fact that you can pause the game. I'm actually wondering if you have even played orgins considering that you didn't even seem to know about the pause feature.

Nothing about the combat is dumbed down from what I have seen. Bioware made it more dynamic and improved the hit detection for better tactics.

JangoWuzHere

I don't even need to read the rest of your post. The pause feature works just fine, most of your complaints are about tactics it seems. If you learned how to use the pause then you wouldn't be having so much trouble.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Holy hell man, i know about the pause feature. It doesn't work.

GeneralShowzer

I don't even need to read the rest of your post. The pause feature works just fine, most of your complaints are about tactics it seems. If you learned how to use the pause then you wouldn't be having so much trouble.

Again, works just fine. I actually feel way more in control then in Origins. I just get the impression that you don't understand how the combat has evolved.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"]Wow, there's already a DA2 demo, I still haven't finished the first one yet...SkyWard20

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

I don't even need to read the rest of your post. The pause feature works just fine, most of your complaints are about tactics it seems. If you learned how to use the pause then you wouldn't be having so much trouble.

JangoWuzHere

Again, works just fine. I actually feel way more in control then in Origins. I just get the impression that you don't understand how the combat has evolved.

[QUOTE="Marka1700"]

Cant even get a smooth frame rate with my I7950 and GTX470. Look like I will be forced to rent a console version.

Kinthalis

For the upteenth time DX 11 is not working in the demo. Run DX9 instead. The full retail release should run a lot smoother on DX 11. With your rig you'll be able to max out the game in DX 11 1080p 4x AA 60+ fps. Why on earth would you play the inferior console version? Maybe you like pixelated textures? I'm not judging ;)

The environments look so horribly empty and bland, but that is alright. My concernn is the camera angle sucks with the PC. It is very annoying. I will continue to wait on the Steam sale.

The environments look so horribly empty and bland, but that is alright. My concernn is the camera angle sucks with the PC. It is very annoying. I will continue to wait on the Steam sale.

Kahuna_1

[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

The environments look so horribly empty and bland, but that is alright. My concernn is the camera angle sucks with the PC. It is very annoying. I will continue to wait on the Steam sale.

lawlessx

Yeah that is also another option I considered. I will see what they have at the end of the year.

Just tried the Demo, apparently you cant use High settings without having a Direct X 11 capable graphics card. And medium settings looked worst than DA high settings. Heck it was looking like a PS2 game.sandeep410

[QUOTE="sandeep410"]Just tried the Demo, apparently you cant use High settings without having a Direct X 11 capable graphics card. And medium settings looked worst than DA high settings. Heck it was looking like a PS2 game.tagyhag

The environments look so horribly empty and bland, but that is alright. My concernn is the camera angle sucks with the PC. It is very annoying. I will continue to wait on the Steam sale.

Kahuna_1

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] I've played trough Dragon Age two times, also NWN II, NWN, BGII, ect... I know how combat in these games is supposed to work. In DA II it just doesn't work.GeneralShowzer

Again, works just fine. I actually feel way more in control then in Origins. I just get the impression that you don't understand how the combat has evolved.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Again, works just fine. I actually feel way more in control then in Origins. I just get the impression that you don't understand how the combat has evolved.

oldkingallant

It's not really that simple. The camera system sucks. You lose a lot of time just cycling trough the characters to see where the enemy is coming from, who to tank, where to position. Instead of overhead view, where you have a clear picture of whats going on and you can select party members, instead of just jumping between their point of view.

By the time you unpause new darkspawn are spawned that came out of nowehere, the rogue jumped god knows where, and the old enemies are already dead because everyone in the group has overpowered aoe. You can't be in control of anything, the only way to have fun in this game, is let everyone do their stuff and jump around throwing AOE once in a while. Makes me wonder why the hell is this even teambased...

Instead of pulling a few enemies at the time, now hordes of enemies spawn who die very quickly. Are you going to pause every two seconds, the average ammount it takes for an enemy to die?

[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="tagyhag"] It looks fine on DX 11. The models are sharp, the environments on the other hand look bad. Anyway, I hope no one is playing a Dragon Age game for the graphics. :PSoraX64

[QUOTE="SoraX64"][QUOTE="110million"] You've been tricked! The demo says DX11 features disabled. 110million

[QUOTE="sandeep410"]Just tried the Demo, apparently you cant use High settings without having a Direct X 11 capable graphics card. And medium settings looked worst than DA high settings. Heck it was looking like a PS2 game.Mozelleple112

[QUOTE="110million"]

[QUOTE="SoraX64"] Where does it say that? BrunoBRS

Its not as bad looking as the previews and early screenshots showed, but its not amazing looking.

Here are some screenshots I took with the game on High settings dx11.

Anyways, I dont play rpgs for the graphics, its story, characters and gameplay that I like so this is fine by me.

It actually looks better after this first part to. This is the worst looking part of the demo these screenshots and there not horrible imo.

^Character models are good, environments are bad, inconsistent overall.

[QUOTE="sandeep410"]Just tried the Demo, apparently you cant use High settings without having a Direct X 11 capable graphics card. And medium settings looked worst than DA high settings. Heck it was looking like a PS2 game.tagyhag

Just tried the Demo, apparently you cant use High settings without having a Direct X 11 capable graphics card. And medium settings looked worst than DA high settings. Heck it was looking like a PS2 game.sandeep410

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="110million"] Have you tried modifying the graphics in-game? There is a list of features and it says they cannot be enabled because DX11 is disabled for the demo.

110million

[QUOTE="sandeep410"]Just tried the Demo, apparently you cant use High settings without having a Direct X 11 capable graphics card. And medium settings looked worst than DA high settings. Heck it was looking like a PS2 game.Lost-Memory

Yeah, they are definitely at least subpar.

I sure hope the gameplay is still fun.

^Character models are good, environments are bad, inconsistent overall.

mitu123

In a rpg I honestly dont care abotu graphics, its the last thing on my list of things that an rpg needs.

Still the demo looks ALOT better then I was expecting.

Its not as bad looking as the previews and early screenshots showed, but its not amazing looking.

Here are some screenshots I took with the game on High settings dx11.

Anyways, I dont play rpgs for the graphics, its story, characters and gameplay that I like so this is fine by me.

It actually looks better after this first part to. This is the worst looking part of the demo these screenshots and there not horrible imo.

kozzy1234

Just look at those screen shots everything looks so blocky.Orginal DA has far better graphics and char models than this one.And these are DX 11 settings.
Its worst on medium settings and top of that there were load time during cutscenes.

Its not so much the graphics that are horrible, But the PC that makes the graphics horrible, on the console DA2 graphics are as good as Crysis 2 there fore proving once again why consoles > PC. Dolohov27

I was shocked that my pc had trouble with it, It may have just been an odd spot in the game that's more demanding than the rest because my pc can handle Crysis max at 1080p without AA but DA2 was struggling to run with 4AA everything maxed. I turned AA off and it ran smoothly. It was odd to see such a noticable jump just from AA and even odder to see a GTX570 having trouble with the game.

Sparky04

GPUs are in-order processors and it needs some software side optimisations. DA2 needs game engine update e.g. perhaps Bioware need to go towards EA DICE's Frostbite 1.5 or Frostbite 2.0.