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#101 tubbyc
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@Solaryellow said:

Maybe it's me but I always thought this game looked poor....visually.

I can understand that. From Software don't have the best programmers in the world but I've always found these games look beautiful because I love their art work.

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#102  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@nintendoboy16: You are going to use a strict dictionary definition that doesn't specifically not mention corporations in order to "prove me wrong". You and I both know that bigotry is about people, cultures and ideas. not companies. You dilute terms like these when you use them this loosely.

You are a corporate slave if you honestly think attacking a corporation like Nintendo offends you this much that it is an attack on your personal values. And that's incredibly sad.

And opinions even for something THIS petty. Dislike somebody for liking something you don't, it's still a form of bigotry. It doesn't always have to be over something more serious such as politics, race, religion, etc. Again, I've also said that gamers are doing this to each other over their opinions, and "hardcores" are the worst of it all. Unless I or someone finds a better overall term, I'm sticking by it.

Ah yes, the casual throwing of "corporate slave", which has mostly been a term for "stop liking something I don't like", few times I've found it a just term. I don't like everything Nintendo does (I haven't bought into their online service yet, for f*** sake!) and you should know that.

EDIT: And since you like to lecture me on what is and isn't, where were you when a SW poster openly compared Nintendo to the Nazis over their online service and cloud storage handling?

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#103 PC_Rocks
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Wow, pretty ironic seeing the same cows bashing Switch for running a last-gen port in worse quality but likes to defend their precious PS4 vs PC and gets extremely mad when bring Metro 2033.

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#104 DocSanchez
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@nintendoboy16: 1. You might not like everything Nintendo does, but you DO get offended when others criticise them as I do. You even call them bigots for it, so really, if the cap fits, wear it. They are a faceless corporation, not a belief system, not a race. You can't call people bigots for not liking Coca Cola. This is what you're doing. Grow up.

2. I didn't see that nazi post. What does that have to do with me? Take it up with the person who said it. Why are you even bringing it up? More proving my point. Rhetoric like that actually offends you. Why? Nintendo are a faceless corporation that wants your money and that's it.

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#105  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@DocSanchez said:

@nintendoboy16: 1. You might not like everything Nintendo does, but you DO get offended when others criticise them as I do. You even call them bigots for it, so really, if the cap fits, wear it. They are a faceless corporation, not a belief system, not a race. You can't call people bigots for not liking Coca Cola. This is what you're doing. Grow up.

2. I didn't see that nazi post. What does that have to do with me? Take it up with the person who said it. Why are you even bringing it up? More proving my point. Rhetoric like that actually offends you. Why? Nintendo are a faceless corporation that wants your money and that's it.

Well, you're right in not posting in this thread, which has a gif of a kaiju monster with a Nazi Swastika in a thread about Nintendo's bad online (again, you and others have gotten on my ass for similar rhetoric, if not a tad bit less, and yes, I did get on his case for it, and the thread remains unlocked). Point remains you and other "hardcores" cried foul when Nintendo decided to focus on casuals. I don't give a damn that you don't like Nintendo, but you and others lashed on their fans like myself and Bread_or_Decide for supporting what we like and you don't, so pure irony that you get on my ass for being so "triggered" about people like you disliking Nintendo.

Still, you proudly harp on me and other sheep when we act or just simply have issue for liking what you don't, but when a cow, lem, or herm says some obvious bullshit on Nintendo (which is what I get mad by), you don't bat an eyelash and in other cases, believe it ("Nintendo SO gets away with everything!" alright, and they still do... somehow, pay no attention to the fact that US government orgs have got on their cases recently).

With this... I'm done!

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#106  Edited By dzimm
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@Bread_or_Decide said:
@scatteh316 said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:

Game feels like a little miracle on the switch.

Take your graphics circle jerk elsewhere.

Switch packing much newer and faster hardware then 360/PS3....so why's it feel like a little miracle?

I take it you've never undocked a switch and took it on the go, then brought it back home to play on the TV.

Switch did something Sony's been dying to do w the PSP and VITA. Console quality on the go without compromise.

So yeah, full fledged console games without compromise, feels pretty damn amazing in the palm of my hands.

This guy gets it. The Switch is the most exciting console to be released in years.

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#107 Bread_or_Decide
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@dzimm said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:
@scatteh316 said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:

Game feels like a little miracle on the switch.

Take your graphics circle jerk elsewhere.

Switch packing much newer and faster hardware then 360/PS3....so why's it feel like a little miracle?

I take it you've never undocked a switch and took it on the go, then brought it back home to play on the TV.

Switch did something Sony's been dying to do w the PSP and VITA. Console quality on the go without compromise.

So yeah, full fledged console games without compromise, feels pretty damn amazing in the palm of my hands.

This guy gets it. The Switch is the most exciting console to be released since in years.

Sad some folks are too busy measuring their graphics cards to just enjoy a thing for its own sake.

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#108 DocSanchez
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@nintendoboy16 said:
@DocSanchez said:

@nintendoboy16: 1. You might not like everything Nintendo does, but you DO get offended when others criticise them as I do. You even call them bigots for it, so really, if the cap fits, wear it. They are a faceless corporation, not a belief system, not a race. You can't call people bigots for not liking Coca Cola. This is what you're doing. Grow up.

2. I didn't see that nazi post. What does that have to do with me? Take it up with the person who said it. Why are you even bringing it up? More proving my point. Rhetoric like that actually offends you. Why? Nintendo are a faceless corporation that wants your money and that's it.

Well, you're right in not posting in this thread, which has a gif of a kaiju monster with a Nazi Swastika in a thread about Nintendo's bad online (again, you and others have gotten on my ass for similar rhetoric, if not a tad bit less, and yes, I did get on his case for it, and the thread remains unlocked). Point remains you and other "hardcores" cried foul when Nintendo decided to focus on casuals. I don't give a damn that you don't like Nintendo, but you and others lashed on their fans like myself and Bread_or_Decide for supporting what we like and you don't, so pure irony that you get on my ass for being so "triggered" about people like you disliking Nintendo.

Still, you proudly harp on me and other sheep when we act or just simply have issue for liking what you don't, but when a cow, lem, or herm says some obvious bullshit on Nintendo (which is what I get mad by), you don't bat an eyelash and in other cases, believe it ("Nintendo SO gets away with everything!" alright, and they still do... somehow, pay no attention to the fact that US government orgs have got on their cases recently).

With this... I'm done!

Again, I ask you, why are you bringing up a thread I wasn't in? This is your trump card is it? Bringing up someone else making mischief against a faceless corporation is "proof" of my bigotry, against that faceless corporation?

Oh and you "don't give a damn whether I don't like Nintendo"? Oh I think you do. I think there is more than enough proof of that every time someone discusses them in less than glowing terms you are the first to get all pissy like a whiny little bitch.


Seriously I think you need to grow up.

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#109 nintendoboy16
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@DocSanchez said:

Again, I ask you, why are you bringing up a thread I wasn't in? This is your trump card is it? Bringing up someone else making mischief against a faceless corporation is "proof" of my bigotry, against that faceless corporation?

Oh and you "don't give a damn whether I don't like Nintendo"? Oh I think you do. I think there is more than enough proof of that every time someone discusses them in less than glowing terms you are the first to get all pissy like a whiny little bitch.

Seriously I think you need to grow up.

Given you just ignored my last sentence, why don't you figure it out, given that you claim moral superiority over sheep.

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#110 DocSanchez
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@nintendoboy16: The last sentence where you said you were done? Seriously the best example you have of me being dickish is a thread I wasn't even in? Thats your gotcha moment? You're right. You are done.

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#111  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@DocSanchez: Again, you argue with others like you have moral (and opinion) superiority, mostly with a faction of fans for a system you don't like and practically for the same thing. And I'll leave it at that.

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#112 DocSanchez
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@nintendoboy16: Stop bringing morality into it. And bigotry. We're talking about a piece of plastic that plays games, this isn't personal to you, and it isn't personal to me. I'm not attacking your puppy. Build a bridge and get over it.

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#113 dzimm
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@Bread_or_Decide said:
@dzimm said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:
@scatteh316 said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:

Game feels like a little miracle on the switch.

Take your graphics circle jerk elsewhere.

Switch packing much newer and faster hardware then 360/PS3....so why's it feel like a little miracle?

I take it you've never undocked a switch and took it on the go, then brought it back home to play on the TV.

Switch did something Sony's been dying to do w the PSP and VITA. Console quality on the go without compromise.

So yeah, full fledged console games without compromise, feels pretty damn amazing in the palm of my hands.

This guy gets it. The Switch is the most exciting console to be released since in years.

Sad some folks are too busy measuring their graphics cards to just enjoy a thing for its own sake.

I've always laughed at console fanboys who act like graphics whores. I mean, if you really cared about graphics then you would game exclusively on PC and wouldn't even give consoles a second-look. The Switch is the system I've been wanting for decades, and Nintendo (of course it was Nintendo) finally delivered. To be able to play a full console game on a big screen and then simply pick up the system and continue playing on the go is such a revolution in the industry that I expect Sony and Microsoft to eventually come out with their own hybrid solution in the future.

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#114  Edited By KBFloYd
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@nintendoboy16 said:

@DocSanchez: Again, you argue with others like you have moral (and opinion) superiority, mostly with a faction of fans for a system you don't like and practically for the same thing. And I'll leave it at that.

dude :P

doc sanchez is a nintentroll. you own him pretty good though. better than me so keep going at him ;-)

he was probably a nintendo fan when he was a kid, he grew up and his tastes changed and now everytime he sees other people enjoying nintendo it upsets him. so he acts accordingly now.

he wants nintendo gone or to grow up "the same way he did". that's all

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#115 Rockman999
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lmfao nintendo fans are weird. how the hell can you guys blame 3rd parties for the Switch's 2015 tablet hardware? Blame Nintendo for going the fisherprice route again to the point where a 7 year old game built on ancient hardware barely runs at 30fps on their new machine.

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#116  Edited By DocSanchez
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@KBFloYd: I have corrected you enough times to know you are lying on this by now. I was not a Nintendo fanboy as a kid. I had 80s computers then moved on to sega consoles and gameboy. (I have never cared)

I dont have time for liars. Or people who post gifs of mentally handicapped kids to laugh at them and others.

People who do that dont get to call others trolls.

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#117  Edited By Litchie
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@tubbyc said:
@Solaryellow said:

Maybe it's me but I always thought this game looked poor....visually.

I can understand that. From Software don't have the best programmers in the world but I've always found these games look beautiful because I love their art work.

Yeah, the artwork and atmosphere is what makes it look cool. Just looking at the technical graphics, the game looks old and quite frankly a bit shit. Didn't even look good when it was new.

Horrible textures, weird hair (look at the fur of the wolf boss, looks like PS2 era), wonky animations, ridiculous ragdoll physics, just to name a few things.

With that said, I still think the game looks great because of other aspects.

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#118 KBFloYd
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@DocSanchez said:

@KBFloYd: I have corrected you enough times to know you are lying on this by now. I was not a Nintendo fanboy as a kid. I had 80s computers then moved on to sega consoles and gameboy. (I have never cared)

I dont have time for liars. Or people who post gifs of mentally handicapped kids to laugh at them and others.

People who do that dont get to call others trolls.

ok, i'll take your word for it.

so you were never into the nintendo thing. you went to the more "hardcore" side with PCs and sega/playstation/xbox.

alright, ill take that into account for future replies. if you even read them since youd prefer to ignore me :P

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#119 DocSanchez
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@KBFloYd: You wont take my word for it and you will go back to this lie next time, because you are a liar.

I didn't go to those sides like everyone is born with Nintendo in the blood and chooses to rebel. I was bought them by my parents. I didn't take sides. There were no sides. There are no sides. I buy what is worthy. I told you I had a gameboy, and I've had multiple Nintendo consoles. You are always trying to pigeonhole people, you can't judge me. So go back to insulting mentally handicapped kids and keep your nose out of other people's business.

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#120 LuxuryHeart
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@2Chalupas said:

No, the Wii was definitely a fad. That doesn't mean games didn't keep coming (though I'm not sure why Just Dance is supposed to be important). Some of the best Wii games came so late the system was practically dead in terms of sales and broader support. I just mean the casuals who bought the system pretty much stopped caring in 2010-2011. The fad lasted about 2 years and then most people moved on.

They didn't care during 2010 and 2011? In 2010 and 2011, the Wii sold 363.07 million software units and 35.61 million hardware units. What fad? Sure it peaked in 2009, but all consoles have a peak year. Even though the Wii peaked in 2009, it had a healthy 'tail' after its peak year. Like I said, it sold more software than the Wii U did until 2015. This is my problem with gaming journalists. They don't show facts to appeal to people like you, who just have a hate boner for the Wii.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/227012/lifetime-unit-sales-of-nintendos-home-consoles/

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#121 LuxuryHeart
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@DocSanchez said:

@nintendoboy16: Stop bringing morality into it. And bigotry. We're talking about a piece of plastic that plays games, this isn't personal to you, and it isn't personal to me. I'm not attacking your puppy. Build a bridge and get over it.

Except, they are right. Nintendo brings something out of people that is weird. You can't simply criticize them without someone getting weird with it. It's like if Nintendo makes games accessible to a wide audience, people get mad and butthurt. Yet Sony and Microsoft are allowed to have annual sports games and COD, without people breathing down their neck. People also get personal with Nintendo when discussing their games. It's like logic goes out the window when talking about Nintendo.

I mean you can objectively say that you don't care for their hardware and software without being a huge hater. Just say something like, "I wish Nintendo would have more storage and at least have 720p and 30 fps for taxing games" or "I wish Nintendo would take more risks and upgrade their games or make new IPs more often." Not, "lulz! Nintendo only make Mario and Zelda. Iz lik 17 Zelda gamez and 30 Mario GaMeS every year! Nintenyearolds still buy them though!" Like you even have people excusing devs doing a bad job simply because it's happening to Nintendo. Like come on... Even if you don't care about Nintendo systems or games, at least have common decency for your fellow gamers.

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#122 LuxuryHeart
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@DocSanchez said:

@KBFloYd: I have corrected you enough times to know you are lying on this by now. I was not a Nintendo fanboy as a kid. I had 80s computers then moved on to sega consoles and gameboy. (I have never cared)

I dont have time for liars. Or people who post gifs of mentally handicapped kids to laugh at them and others.

People who do that dont get to call others trolls.

So you've never owned a Nintendo console, aside from the Game Boy yet you're complaining about how Nintendo's console isn't appealing to you? Well of course you don't like this console or any other Nintendo console because you never did. That's like a hardcore Apple fan complaining about how Android devices are unappealing when they've never bought a single one. Like, you aren't the consumer they're going after.

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#123 DocSanchez
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@luxuryheart said:
@DocSanchez said:

@KBFloYd: I have corrected you enough times to know you are lying on this by now. I was not a Nintendo fanboy as a kid. I had 80s computers then moved on to sega consoles and gameboy. (I have never cared)

I dont have time for liars. Or people who post gifs of mentally handicapped kids to laugh at them and others.

People who do that dont get to call others trolls.

So you've never owned a Nintendo console, aside from the Game Boy yet you're complaining about how Nintendo's console isn't appealing to you? Well of course you don't like this console or any other Nintendo console because you never did. That's like a hardcore Apple fan complaining about how Android devices are unappealing when they've never bought a single one. Like, you aren't the consumer they're going after.

Err...no. I never said I only had a gameboy. You are another mindless Nintendrone who feels personally affronted by someone even criticising his pet company.

To date I've owned a game boy, a GBC, a GB Advance, a gamecube and a wii. I'd have bought a wii u but the price didn't come down. I may even buy a switch some time soon, but again, not at that price. You started with a false fact and carried on going. Amazing.

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#124 DocSanchez
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@luxuryheart said:
@DocSanchez said:

@nintendoboy16: Stop bringing morality into it. And bigotry. We're talking about a piece of plastic that plays games, this isn't personal to you, and it isn't personal to me. I'm not attacking your puppy. Build a bridge and get over it.

Except, they are right. Nintendo brings something out of people that is weird. You can't simply criticize them without someone getting weird with it. It's like if Nintendo makes games accessible to a wide audience, people get mad and butthurt. Yet Sony and Microsoft are allowed to have annual sports games and COD, without people breathing down their neck. People also get personal with Nintendo when discussing their games. It's like logic goes out the window when talking about Nintendo.

I mean you can objectively say that you don't care for their hardware and software without being a huge hater. Just say something like, "I wish Nintendo would have more storage and at least have 720p and 30 fps for taxing games" or "I wish Nintendo would take more risks and upgrade their games or make new IPs more often." Not, "lulz! Nintendo only make Mario and Zelda. Iz lik 17 Zelda gamez and 30 Mario GaMeS every year! Nintenyearolds still buy them though!" Like you even have people excusing devs doing a bad job simply because it's happening to Nintendo. Like come on... Even if you don't care about Nintendo systems or games, at least have common decency for your fellow gamers.

Hmm. Gonna have to highlight this passage >>> "I mean you can objectively say that you don't care for their hardware and software without being a huge hater."

I call you out on this. I get dogpiled every time I do, so I'm afraid you can't without getting jumped on.

You babies get offended every time someone like me bashes Nintendo. You are free to say Sony games are all "movie games" or that you don't like Microsoft and that Xbox has no games, or writing off popular games like COD because casuals play them but bitch and whine when you get a dose of your own medicine.

And I repeat.....this is SYSTEM WARS. This is what system wars is for. If you can't handle a bit of banter, go somewhere more boring instead.

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#125 LuxuryHeart
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@DocSanchez said:
@luxuryheart said:
@DocSanchez said:

@nintendoboy16: Stop bringing morality into it. And bigotry. We're talking about a piece of plastic that plays games, this isn't personal to you, and it isn't personal to me. I'm not attacking your puppy. Build a bridge and get over it.

Except, they are right. Nintendo brings something out of people that is weird. You can't simply criticize them without someone getting weird with it. It's like if Nintendo makes games accessible to a wide audience, people get mad and butthurt. Yet Sony and Microsoft are allowed to have annual sports games and COD, without people breathing down their neck. People also get personal with Nintendo when discussing their games. It's like logic goes out the window when talking about Nintendo.

I mean you can objectively say that you don't care for their hardware and software without being a huge hater. Just say something like, "I wish Nintendo would have more storage and at least have 720p and 30 fps for taxing games" or "I wish Nintendo would take more risks and upgrade their games or make new IPs more often." Not, "lulz! Nintendo only make Mario and Zelda. Iz lik 17 Zelda gamez and 30 Mario GaMeS every year! Nintenyearolds still buy them though!" Like you even have people excusing devs doing a bad job simply because it's happening to Nintendo. Like come on... Even if you don't care about Nintendo systems or games, at least have common decency for your fellow gamers.

Hmm. Gonna have to highlight this passage >>> "I mean you can objectively say that you don't care for their hardware and software without being a huge hater."

I call you out on this. I get dogpiled every time I do, so I'm afraid you can't without getting jumped on.

You babies get offended every time someone like me bashes Nintendo. You are free to say Sony games are all "movie games" or that you don't like Microsoft and that Xbox has no games, or writing off popular games like COD because casuals play them but bitch and whine when you get a dose of your own medicine.

And I repeat.....this is SYSTEM WARS. This is what system wars is for. If you can't handle a bit of banter, go somewhere more boring instead.

You don't objectively do it. I've yet to see you be objective. It's insult after insult. I'm also proof that you can objectively criticize them. I've criticized them on this forum and other forums. I didn't get dog piled on. Why? Because I'm respectful. I talk about their online being bad, I talk about their terrible storage, I rant about how Nintendo should create studios in different locations so their games appeal to everyone globally, etc. I've said a lot about their flaws and I don't get dog piled.

Again with the babies and assuming things about ME. I like Sony games and own a PS4, so why would I mock their games. The most I can really say is that their games don't have longevity and that's true. I can also say that Microsoft needs to improve their exclusive content and that's also true. Why would I write off popular games? I'm the one defending casuals the most.

So you're not going to respond to my last post about the lack of decency? That's fine. :)

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#126 DocSanchez
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@luxuryheart: Lack of decency? You want a discussion about decency? Jesus you people are weird. Listen, I've just had another bizarre conversation with one of your pals, I don't want another one. You guys are like a cult. I'm going to continue doing what I want and criticising whatever corporation I want, and you can sit there and like it or you can ignore it. And that's all there is to it.

Move on.

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Not to mention the game is borderline unplayable. Not because its on the switch, because its dark souls.

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#128 LuxuryHeart
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@DocSanchez said:

@luxuryheart: Lack of decency? You want a discussion about decency? Jesus you people are weird. Listen, I've just had another bizarre conversation with one of your pals, I don't want another one. You guys are like a cult. I'm going to continue doing what I want and criticising whatever corporation I want, and you can sit there and like it or you can ignore it. And that's all there is to it.

Move on.

I mean you're the one talking about how we aren't objective and we're biased hypocrites. I'll admit I'm biased slightly, but I do try to make objective arguments and get the facts. I've yet to see you do that, so you have some nerve calling us a cult and saying we can't take criticism when you can't as well.