Day One Sales in Japan: Crisis Core v.s. Pokemon

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#1 Kalias
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Where the hell are all those people that say a psp is a flop? this is quiet ironic when the best selling game of the year happens to be a psp game in japan (Monster Hunter) and yet people still have the **** to call the psp a flop.

Now the latest game to beat out the unstoppable game in sales Pokemon... Crisis Core

Day one sales inJapan

FF7 Crisis Core: 350k

Pokemon Mystery Dungeon (combined both verisions): 250k
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#2 xboxrox11
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im gonna buy crisis core regardless of sales, i could care less how much it sells, i want me some crisis core!
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#3 ghostofzabis
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But, at the end, pokemon will win (salewise).
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#4 metroidfood
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PSP is a flop because it didn't meet it's hype of being the "Nintendo killer." It's far from a failure however.

Btw, if you really want to compare sales, use an actual Pokemon game (Diamond/Pearl, Ruby/Sapphire, Gold/Silver, Red/Blue) instead of a spinoff game. Mystery Dungeon doesn't even begin to reflect the real popularity of Pokemon.

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#5 yoshi_64
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Wait, wait... you compare the spin-off pokemon games but not the RPG seller that sold like 2 million in one day?
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#6 Kaze_no_Mirai
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Mistery Dungeon? Compare it to Diamond and Pearl. :|

http://www.4colorrebellion.com/archives/2006/09/28/pokemon-diamond-pearl-break-sales-records/

"According to a couple of sources, all two million copies of the two games sold out. Nintendo has also supposedly sold 500,000 DS Lite systems, including the special Pokemon edition of the system. We're still waiting on official confirmation, but we wouldn't be surprised at all if this is true."

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#7 xboxrox11
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Wait, wait... you compare the spin-off pokemon games but not the RPG seller that sold like 2 million in one day?yoshi_64

wait, wait....this is a spin off of final fantasy 7

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#8 Kaze_no_Mirai
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[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]Wait, wait... you compare the spin-off pokemon games but not the RPG seller that sold like 2 million in one day?xboxrox11

wait, wait....this is a spin off of final fantasy 7

A spin off thats being hyped massively by Japanese media and ahs been worked on for a long time? Compared to a short Pokemon spin off adventure that Nintendo doesn't hype unlike the main entries?

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[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]Wait, wait... you compare the spin-off pokemon games but not the RPG seller that sold like 2 million in one day?xboxrox11

wait, wait....this is a spin off of final fantasy 7

Oh noes! :o Alert the internet! Anyways... no one pays attention to the spin-offs. FF VII: CC is doing well because it's just running on the nostalgia and huge fanbase of FF VII. Everyone who knows about Pokemon knows to avoid the off-shoots.
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#10 Kalias
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Wait, wait... you compare the spin-off pokemon games but not the RPG seller that sold like 2 million in one day?yoshi_64

isn't crisis core a spin-off too? or does that only apply to nintendo made games?

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[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]Wait, wait... you compare the spin-off pokemon games but not the RPG seller that sold like 2 million in one day?xboxrox11

wait, wait....this is a spin off of final fantasy 7

Yeah. It is. Now tell me, how many times have you seen Pokemon Diamond/Pearl listed as a DS killer app? Now how many times have you seen Crisis Core listed as a PSP killer app? Now how many times have you seen Pokemon Mystery Dungeon listed as a DS killer app? Yeah. Thought so. Compare the killer apps to the killer apps, not the killer apps to the bush leagues.
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#12 agentfred
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[QUOTE="xboxrox11"]

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]Wait, wait... you compare the spin-off pokemon games but not the RPG seller that sold like 2 million in one day?yoshi_64

wait, wait....this is a spin off of final fantasy 7

Oh noes! :o Alert the internet! Anyways... no one pays attention to the spin-offs. FF VII: CC is doing well because it's just running on the nostalgia and huge fanbase of FF VII. Everyone who knows about Pokemon knows to avoid the off-shoots.

CC got a 35 in famitsu. There has to be something to it.

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#13 Kalias
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[QUOTE="xboxrox11"]

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]Wait, wait... you compare the spin-off pokemon games but not the RPG seller that sold like 2 million in one day?Kaze_no_Mirai

wait, wait....this is a spin off of final fantasy 7

A spin off thats being hyped massively by Japanese media and ahs been worked on for a long time? Compared to a short Pokemon spin off adventure that Nintendo doesn't hype unlike the main entries?

you got any proof that the japanese media has been hyping crisis core.. or is this more of the internet PeopleZ pulling s** from their ***.

and to note.. Crisis Core got a 35/40 from famitsu hardly a score that would foster hype.

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[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="xboxrox11"]

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]Wait, wait... you compare the spin-off pokemon games but not the RPG seller that sold like 2 million in one day?Kalias

wait, wait....this is a spin off of final fantasy 7

A spin off thats being hyped massively by Japanese media and ahs been worked on for a long time? Compared to a short Pokemon spin off adventure that Nintendo doesn't hype unlike the main entries?

you got any proof that the japanese media has been hyping crisis core.. or is this more of the internet PeopleZ pulling s** from their ***.

and to note.. Crisis Core got a 35/40 from famitsu hardly a score that would foster hype.

You're kidding right? FF VII is on the name. That's all it needs. It's been hyped to death too. Just google FF VII: CC and you'll see
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#15 Kaze_no_Mirai
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[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="xboxrox11"]

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]Wait, wait... you compare the spin-off pokemon games but not the RPG seller that sold like 2 million in one day?Kalias

wait, wait....this is a spin off of final fantasy 7

A spin off thats being hyped massively by Japanese media and ahs been worked on for a long time? Compared to a short Pokemon spin off adventure that Nintendo doesn't hype unlike the main entries?

you got any proof that the japanese media has been hyping crisis core.. or is this more of the internet PeopleZ pulling s** from their ***.

and to note.. Crisis Core got a 35/40 from famitsu hardly a score that would foster hype.

Scores have nothing to do with thuis. :roll: You know its true. Like someone else said. Who EVER said that Mistery Dungeon was a killer app? Now how many people have said the CC will be a huge game for the PSP? Probably its biggest game? It's obvious. As they said compare killer apps to killer apps.

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[QUOTE="yoshi_64"][QUOTE="xboxrox11"]

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]Wait, wait... you compare the spin-off pokemon games but not the RPG seller that sold like 2 million in one day?agentfred

wait, wait....this is a spin off of final fantasy 7

Oh noes! :o Alert the internet! Anyways... no one pays attention to the spin-offs. FF VII: CC is doing well because it's just running on the nostalgia and huge fanbase of FF VII. Everyone who knows about Pokemon knows to avoid the off-shoots.

CC got a 35 in famitsu. There has to be something to it.

FF VII: CC gets hyped for many reasons and is one of the PSP's most hyped games. The spin-off Pokemon games don't get hyped for many reasons. The RPG games are hyped, because they are actual system sellers and killer apps. (Great games to the system+system seller.
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#17 Kaze_no_Mirai
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Also just to add. If theres any "ownage" here, its the fact that a spin off like Mistery Dungeon sold pretty damn near what CC sold, the PSP's "biggest" game for Japan as someone else said.
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[QUOTE="yoshi_64"][QUOTE="xboxrox11"]

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]Wait, wait... you compare the spin-off pokemon games but not the RPG seller that sold like 2 million in one day?agentfred

wait, wait....this is a spin off of final fantasy 7

Oh noes! :o Alert the internet! Anyways... no one pays attention to the spin-offs. FF VII: CC is doing well because it's just running on the nostalgia and huge fanbase of FF VII. Everyone who knows about Pokemon knows to avoid the off-shoots.

CC got a 35 in famitsu. There has to be something to it.

So did that Pokemon Mystery game that was just released...

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#19 Kalias
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[QUOTE="Kalias"][QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="xboxrox11"]

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]Wait, wait... you compare the spin-off pokemon games but not the RPG seller that sold like 2 million in one day?yoshi_64

wait, wait....this is a spin off of final fantasy 7

A spin off thats being hyped massively by Japanese media and ahs been worked on for a long time? Compared to a short Pokemon spin off adventure that Nintendo doesn't hype unlike the main entries?

you got any proof that the japanese media has been hyping crisis core.. or is this more of the internet PeopleZ pulling s** from their ***.

and to note.. Crisis Core got a 35/40 from famitsu hardly a score that would foster hype.

You're kidding right? FF VII is on the name. That's all it needs. It's been hyped to death too. Just google FF VII: CC and you'll see

your argument is WEAK. you said FF is attached to its name? well POKEMON is attached to that DS game... Pokemon, the company that probably by now has one of the biggest followings of gamers ever.

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#20 agentfred
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[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="xboxrox11"]

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]Wait, wait... you compare the spin-off pokemon games but not the RPG seller that sold like 2 million in one day?Kalias

wait, wait....this is a spin off of final fantasy 7

A spin off thats being hyped massively by Japanese media and ahs been worked on for a long time? Compared to a short Pokemon spin off adventure that Nintendo doesn't hype unlike the main entries?

you got any proof that the japanese media has been hyping crisis core.. or is this more of the internet PeopleZ pulling s** from their ***.

and to note.. Crisis Core got a 35/40 from famitsu hardly a score that would foster hype.

A 9, 9 , 9 and an 8 is bad now? What on earth is wrong with you?

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#21 Kalias
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[QUOTE="Kalias"][QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="xboxrox11"]

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]Wait, wait... you compare the spin-off pokemon games but not the RPG seller that sold like 2 million in one day?Kaze_no_Mirai

wait, wait....this is a spin off of final fantasy 7

A spin off thats being hyped massively by Japanese media and ahs been worked on for a long time? Compared to a short Pokemon spin off adventure that Nintendo doesn't hype unlike the main entries?

you got any proof that the japanese media has been hyping crisis core.. or is this more of the internet PeopleZ pulling s** from their ***.

and to note.. Crisis Core got a 35/40 from famitsu hardly a score that would foster hype.

Scores have nothing to do with thuis. :roll: You know its true. Like someone else said. Who EVER said that Mistery Dungeon was a killer app? Now how many people have said the CC will be a huge game for the PSP? Probably its biggest game? It's obvious. As they said compare killer apps to killer apps.

way to spin the facts. did you forget the DS has probably at least double the user base then the psp.. that alone should ensure the casuals to flock to anyting pokemon related. as opposed to a much more hardcore game like crisis core with a small user base.

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#22 chansaet
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so because you know pokemon diamond and pearl killed crisis core in sales you choose mestery dungen to prove a point. No one is stupid enough to fall your your little trick.
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#23 Kaze_no_Mirai
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[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="Kalias"][QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="xboxrox11"]

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]Wait, wait... you compare the spin-off pokemon games but not the RPG seller that sold like 2 million in one day?Kalias

wait, wait....this is a spin off of final fantasy 7

A spin off thats being hyped massively by Japanese media and ahs been worked on for a long time? Compared to a short Pokemon spin off adventure that Nintendo doesn't hype unlike the main entries?

you got any proof that the japanese media has been hyping crisis core.. or is this more of the internet PeopleZ pulling s** from their ***.

and to note.. Crisis Core got a 35/40 from famitsu hardly a score that would foster hype.

Scores have nothing to do with thuis. :roll: You know its true. Like someone else said. Who EVER said that Mistery Dungeon was a killer app? Now how many people have said the CC will be a huge game for the PSP? Probably its biggest game? It's obvious. As they said compare killer apps to killer apps.

way to spin the facts. did you forget the DS has probably at least double the user base then the psp.. that alone should ensure the casuals to flock to anyting pokemon related. as opposed to a much more hardcore game like crisis core with a small user base.

Are you really saying that no one "flocks" to anything FF related, especially FFVII related? :|

Also, 350,000 in one day = small user base? :|

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#24 Kalias
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[QUOTE="Kalias"][QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="xboxrox11"]

[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]Wait, wait... you compare the spin-off pokemon games but not the RPG seller that sold like 2 million in one day?agentfred

wait, wait....this is a spin off of final fantasy 7

A spin off thats being hyped massively by Japanese media and ahs been worked on for a long time? Compared to a short Pokemon spin off adventure that Nintendo doesn't hype unlike the main entries?

you got any proof that the japanese media has been hyping crisis core.. or is this more of the internet PeopleZ pulling s** from their ***.

and to note.. Crisis Core got a 35/40 from famitsu hardly a score that would foster hype.

A 9, 9 , 9 and an 8 is bad now? What on earth is wrong with you?

actually yes, yes it is.. according to famitsu standards which gave games like blue-dragon (6.0) a higher score. and im sure you know about how famitsu rates games.

im not trying to say the game isn't good. i bet its going to own and prob get 9s in the us. all im saying is how famitsu scored it.

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The problem is that only a few games sell well on the PSP. If you have been following the media create numbers for the entire year, you would have realized that DS games dominates the sales charts.
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actually yes, yes it is.. according to famitsu standards which gave games like blue-dragon (6.0) a higher score. and im sure you know about how famitsu rates games.

im not trying to say the game isn't good. i bet its going to own and prob get 9s in the us. all im saying is how famitsu scored it.

Kalias

Famitsu does have some bizarre ratings, like nintendogs getting a perfect score. Don't however, let some strange reviews like that make you think that famitsu has very low standards, they aren't much more lenient than most western reviewers. Anyway, western previews have been quite positive so far, and I doubt it will be rated much lower over here.

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#27 MikeE21286
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did you also check out those monster hunter sales? like 500k week 1
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#28 osirisomeomi
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The psp isn't a flop. let's look at the sales. The psp has sold about 50% of the DS sales. Comparing that to the lat generation of consoles, that owuld be like the psp selling as much as the xbox and the gamecube combined, plus a few million. that's not too bad. it isnt winning, but it's selling pretty well and there are quite a few good games on it.

The only real reason it isn't selling well is because it lacks enough portable-style games. It needs more lumines and every extend extra extreme.

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#29 Kalias
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The psp isn't a flop. let's look at the sales. The psp has sold about 50% of the DS sales. Comparing that to the lat generation of consoles, that owuld be like the psp selling as much as the xbox and the gamecube combined, plus a few million. that's not too bad. it isnt winning, but it's selling pretty well and there are quite a few good games on it.

The only real reason it isn't selling well is because it lacks enough portable-style games. It needs more lumines and every extend extra extreme.

osirisomeomi

agreed. we also need those rhythm games like gitarro man, elite beats, and creative sh** like that lol.