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#51 Fawlcon_Pawnch
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]it call funding 360 an dPS3 projects. You didn't get the memo. They use the wii to generate some income to make PS3 and 360 games.Ragnarok1051

In order to fund they must generate good money, which means you just said they sell great in Japan ;)

See how i turned around that little bash of yours?

Well when the game cost hardly anything to make then they can sell very little and still make a profit.

And that little to no profit you say they earn will be used to fund the PS3/360 games?

lol, Okay

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#52 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]yawn doesn't take much work to release old ports with updated controls. They didn't do much with Dead Rising wii apparently.ogvampire

It means there is a market for these games there, they dont release games or even ports if no one wants them. Appearently i have to point this out to you as you seem to have problems understanding the obvious

it call funding 360 an dPS3 projects. You didn't get the memo. They use the wii to generate some income to make PS3 and 360 games.

they wont waste their time making games that they dont think will sell. they arent worried about funding ps3/360 games, they are worried about staying in business

thats true too, but I think it has more with just milking money out of the wii fanbase since standards seem to real low there.
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#53 mdisen2
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Watch it sell millions though.DireToad

Resident Evil 4 didn't even sell millions. Why would this?

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#54 Zhengi
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"] um there is a reason why they are not making DR2. it is called it wasn't in the plans and they already had other projects to work on.too_much_eslim

Really? You have access to Capcom personnel that told you this?

well you see when you have a 360 you are interested in the games that come to i. So when they said that was teh reason they were not in the process of making a sequal in an interview some time ago I would know. The only reason why you are even interested in the game, or even trying to defend your beloved wii is because teh game is coming to the system.

You obviously had no interest when it was a 360 game.

Not really. I'm not interested in this game just because it's coming to the Wii. All I'm saying is that if this game was profitable for Capcom, then they would have made plans for a sequel. Otherwise, why would they not have it in their plans at all?

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#55 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]it call funding 360 an dPS3 projects. You didn't get the memo. They use the wii to generate some income to make PS3 and 360 games.Fawlcon_Pawnch

In order to fund they must generate good money, which means you just said they sell great in Japan ;)

See how i turned around that little bash of yours?

Well when the game cost hardly anything to make then they can sell very little and still make a profit.

And that little to no profit you say they earn will be used to fund the PS3/360 games?

lol, Okay

I haven't really seen any ambitious projects on the Wii from Capcom.

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#56 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]it call funding 360 an dPS3 projects. You didn't get the memo. They use the wii to generate some income to make PS3 and 360 games.Fawlcon_Pawnch

In order to fund they must generate good money, which means you just said they sell great in Japan ;)

See how i turned around that little bash of yours?

Well when the game cost hardly anything to make then they can sell very little and still make a profit.

And that little to no profit you say they earn will be used to fund the PS3/360 games?

lol, Okay

I guess you didn't read teh article about third party companies.
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#57 Zhengi
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thats true too, but I think it has more with just milking money out of the wii fanbase since standards seem to real low there.too_much_eslim

Just like the standards for Monster Hunter 3 and Tatsunoko (sp?) vs. Capcom are low, amirite?

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#58 killerfist
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I know that. I just trying to find a sales comparison.too_much_eslim

well I agree with you that this Dead Rising wont be as fun as the 360 version.

but when you ask if it will sell good on the Wii..I say yes it will. I think Wii(only) owners can appreciate a game like this as well.

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#59 Zhengi
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I haven't really seen any ambitious projects on the Wii from Capcom. Ragnarok1051

Monster Hunter 3 and that vs. Capcom fighter.

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#60 randomguy15
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I only own a wii and I agree with this topic. Stupid capcom for making ports that suck. Yeah for all you X-box 360 and PS3 owners who actually have Capcxom on your side. But I'm getting an X-box 360 in november.
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#61 Fawlcon_Pawnch
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I haven't really seen any ambitious projects on the Wii from Capcom.

Ragnarok1051

Monster Hunter 3 just flew right past your head hey?

Oh and way to avoid my comment ;)

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Remove the first two words of this topic and we'll have a conversation.
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[QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]yawn doesn't take much work to release old ports with updated controls. They didn't do much with Dead Rising wii apparently.too_much_eslim

It means there is a market for these games there, they dont release games or even ports if no one wants them. Appearently i have to point this out to you as you seem to have problems understanding the obvious

it call funding 360 an dPS3 projects. You didn't get the memo. They use the wii to generate some income to make PS3 and 360 games.

But this game won't sell anywhere near as well as Resident Evil 4 Wii or even Umbrella Chronicles. I'd even be surprised if it sold better than Zack and Wiki.

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#64 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"] um there is a reason why they are not making DR2. it is called it wasn't in the plans and they already had other projects to work on.Zhengi

Really? You have access to Capcom personnel that told you this?

well you see when you have a 360 you are interested in the games that come to i. So when they said that was teh reason they were not in the process of making a sequal in an interview some time ago I would know. The only reason why you are even interested in the game, or even trying to defend your beloved wii is because teh game is coming to the system.

You obviously had no interest when it was a 360 game.

Not really. I'm not interested in this game just because it's coming to the Wii. All I'm saying is that if this game was profitable for Capcom, then they would have made plans for a sequel. Otherwise, why would they not have it in their plans at all?

it was a new ip and they didn't know how it would turn out. Dead Rising and Lost Planet were surprise hits for them. like istreakforfood said the team was already dismantle and started doing other projects.
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[QUOTE="DireToad"]Watch it sell millions though.mdisen2

Resident Evil 4 didn't even sell millions. Why would this?

Let's see:

2.5 Millions on PS2

1.6 Millions on GC

1.5 Millions on Wii

Yep, it didn't sell millions.:)

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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]I haven't really seen any ambitious projects on the Wii from Capcom. Zhengi

Monster Hunter 3 and that vs. Capcom fighter.

Am I the only who thinks that they will both be ported as well?

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#67 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]yawn doesn't take much work to release old ports with updated controls. They didn't do much with Dead Rising wii apparently.mdisen2

It means there is a market for these games there, they dont release games or even ports if no one wants them. Appearently i have to point this out to you as you seem to have problems understanding the obvious

it call funding 360 an dPS3 projects. You didn't get the memo. They use the wii to generate some income to make PS3 and 360 games.

But this game won't sell anywhere near as well as Resident Evil 4 Wii or even Umbrella Chronicles. I'd even be surprised if it sold better than Zack and Wiki.

I know this. SO obcviously it is just a quick cash in.
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[QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]it call funding 360 an dPS3 projects. You didn't get the memo. They use the wii to generate some income to make PS3 and 360 games.Ragnarok1051

In order to fund they must generate good money, which means you just said they sell great in Japan ;)

See how i turned around that little bash of yours?

Well when the game cost hardly anything to make then they can sell very little and still make a profit.

And that little to no profit you say they earn will be used to fund the PS3/360 games?

lol, Okay

I haven't really seen any ambitious projects on the Wii from Capcom.

monster hunter 3?

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#69 Fawlcon_Pawnch
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[QUOTE="mdisen2"]

[QUOTE="DireToad"]Watch it sell millions though.lancea34

Resident Evil 4 didn't even sell millions. Why would this?

Let's see:

2.5 Millions on PS2

1.6 Millions on GC

1.5 Millions on Wii

Yep, it didn't sell millions.:)

Its getting close to the 2 million mark now. Its a 3 year old port that also came out on GC/PS2/PC and it still managed to sell well.

Umbrella Chronicles also passed the million mark

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#70 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]I haven't really seen any ambitious projects on the Wii from Capcom. Ragnarok1051

Monster Hunter 3 and that vs. Capcom fighter.

Am I the only who thinks that they will both be ported as well?

Nah neither games will get ported. Maybe the vs game onto the PS3, but that is just wishful thinking. Capcom knows MH is a very popular series so they put it on the system with the largest userbase in Japan. It is teh same reasoning SE has for putting DQ on the DS.
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#71 Fawlcon_Pawnch
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]I haven't really seen any ambitious projects on the Wii from Capcom. Ragnarok1051

Monster Hunter 3 and that vs. Capcom fighter.

Am I the only who thinks that they will both be ported as well?

Yes

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[QUOTE="DireToad"]Watch it sell millions though.mdisen2

Resident Evil 4 didn't even sell millions. Why would this?

Uh... yes it did.

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#73 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="lancea34"][QUOTE="mdisen2"]

[QUOTE="DireToad"]Watch it sell millions though.Fawlcon_Pawnch

Resident Evil 4 didn't even sell millions. Why would this?

Let's see:

2.5 Millions on PS2

1.6 Millions on GC

1.5 Millions on Wii

Yep, it didn't sell millions.:)

Its getting close to the 2 million mark now. Its a 3 year old port that also came out on GC/PS2/PC and it still managed to sell well.

Umbrella Chronicles also passed the million mark

Now how many of those wii sales came from Japan?
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I'm sure the motion controls will more then make up for everything they'll have to cut out and downgrade from the 360 version.

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#75 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]I haven't really seen any ambitious projects on the Wii from Capcom. Ragnarok1051

Monster Hunter 3 and that vs. Capcom fighter.

Am I the only who thinks that they will both be ported as well?

He gives you to games from capcom and thats the only response you have...wow.

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#76 Zhengi
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[QUOTE="Zhengi"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]I haven't really seen any ambitious projects on the Wii from Capcom. Ragnarok1051

Monster Hunter 3 and that vs. Capcom fighter.

Am I the only who thinks that they will both be ported as well?

Until Capcom says it's been ported, then they won't be. Plus, what does that have to do with not seeing any ambitious projects on the Wii from Capcom? We are talking about this and not ports to other systems.

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#77 Zhengi
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it was a new ip and they didn't know how it would turn out. Dead Rising and Lost Planet were surprise hits for them. like istreakforfood said the team was already dismantle and started doing other projects. too_much_eslim

Then you should support the Wii version so that it tells Capcom that a sequel is wanted to this new IP and that they should get on the ball on it. They can then do a multiplat of DR 2 for all systems cause they know it will sell.

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Now how many of those wii sales came from Japan?too_much_eslim

What am i, an NPD emplyee? Do some research

The fact that they are making Dead Rising Wii, and the REmake, RE0 Wiimakes should be proof enough for you that they sold enough to please them

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"] Now how many of those wii sales came from Japan?Fawlcon_Pawnch

What am i, an NPD emplyee? Do some research

The fact that they are making Dead Rising Wii, and the REmake, RE0 Wiimakes should be proof enough for you that they sold enough to please them

it just sound like they are milking wii owners.
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]it was a new ip and they didn't know how it would turn out. Dead Rising and Lost Planet were surprise hits for them. like istreakforfood said the team was already dismantle and started doing other projects. Zhengi

Then you should support the Wii version so that it tells Capcom that a sequel is wanted to this new IP and that they should get on the ball on it. They can then do a multiplat of DR 2 for all systems cause they know it will sell.

why would i buy it if I have the game already and think the wii version is crap. This is just capcom milking wii owners.
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]it was a new ip and they didn't know how it would turn out. Dead Rising and Lost Planet were surprise hits for them. like istreakforfood said the team was already dismantle and started doing other projects. Zhengi

Then you should support the Wii version so that it tells Capcom that a sequel is wanted to this new IP and that they should get on the ball on it. They can then do a multiplat of DR 2 for all systems cause they know it will sell.

If the game gets at least a 7, then be sure I'm supporting it.:)

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#82 Fawlcon_Pawnch
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[QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"] Now how many of those wii sales came from Japan?too_much_eslim

What am i, an NPD emplyee? Do some research

The fact that they are making Dead Rising Wii, and the REmake, RE0 Wiimakes should be proof enough for you that they sold enough to please them

it just sound like they are milking wii owners.

Thats not part of the discussion. We are talking about how these games sell in Japan, dont run away from the subject with irrelevant assumptions

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[QUOTE="Zhengi"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]it was a new ip and they didn't know how it would turn out. Dead Rising and Lost Planet were surprise hits for them. like istreakforfood said the team was already dismantle and started doing other projects. too_much_eslim

Then you should support the Wii version so that it tells Capcom that a sequel is wanted to this new IP and that they should get on the ball on it. They can then do a multiplat of DR 2 for all systems cause they know it will sell.

why would i buy it if I have the game already and think the wii version is crap. This is just capcom milking wii owners.

Hey, you don't have to. $$$ could = a sequel :)

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If the game is good i'l buy it for shure. I love Zombie games, plus the RE4Wii type controls are flawless, one of the best ever.
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]it was a new ip and they didn't know how it would turn out. Dead Rising and Lost Planet were surprise hits for them. like istreakforfood said the team was already dismantle and started doing other projects. Zhengi

Then you should support the Wii version so that it tells Capcom that a sequel is wanted to this new IP and that they should get on the ball on it. They can then do a multiplat of DR 2 for all systems cause they know it will sell.

Why would he support it? The problem was due to not being popular in Japan. If he lived in Japan maybe. Plus the downsize for supporting it is if it does well then there is going to be another bad version of the Wii and might not be released on the other consoles.

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#86 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"] Now how many of those wii sales came from Japan?Fawlcon_Pawnch

What am i, an NPD emplyee? Do some research

The fact that they are making Dead Rising Wii, and the REmake, RE0 Wiimakes should be proof enough for you that they sold enough to please them

it just sound like they are milking wii owners.

Thats not part of the discussion. We are talking about how these games sell in Japan, dont run away from the subject with irrelevant assumptions

Yes I know. I haven't seen anything that shows teh games selss well in Japan. So the are just being made to milk wi owners.
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#87 Fawlcon_Pawnch
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Plus the downsize for supporting it is if it does well then there is going to be another bad version of the Wii and might not be released on the other consoles.

istreakforfood

Captain Assumptions is jealous of you

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If the game is good i'l buy it for shure. I love Zombie games, plus the RE4Wii type controls are flawless, one of the best ever.Fawlcon_Pawnch
game is good on the 360 though.
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#89 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="istreakforfood"]

Plus the downsize for supporting it is if it does well then there is going to be another bad version of the Wii and might not be released on the other consoles.

Fawlcon_Pawnch

Captain Assumptions is jealous of you

or history of ports proves his point
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[QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"]If the game is good i'l buy it for shure. I love Zombie games, plus the RE4Wii type controls are flawless, one of the best ever.too_much_eslim
game is goo on the 360 though.

I'm shure it is, but i'm not planing in buying one so...

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#91 istreakforfood
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Plus the downsize for supporting it is if it does well then there is going to be another bad version of the Wii and might not be released on the other consoles.

Fawlcon_Pawnch

Captain Assumptions is jealous of you

Really? So are you saying the Wii version plays the same as the 360 version? It is a huge downgrade and I don't mean garaphic wise.

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[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]yawn doesn't take much work to release old ports with updated controls. They didn't do much with Dead Rising wii apparently.too_much_eslim

It means there is a market for these games there, they dont release games or even ports if no one wants them. Appearently i have to point this out to you as you seem to have problems understanding the obvious

it call funding 360 an dPS3 projects. You didn't get the memo. They use the wii to generate some income to make PS3 and 360 games.

they wont waste their time making games that they dont think will sell. they arent worried about funding ps3/360 games, they are worried about staying in business

thats true too, but I think it has more with just milking money out of the wii fanbase since standards seem to real low there.

dont you remember the ps3 Lost Planet port?

capcom just does bad ports for some reason. you see it as milking, i see it as porting...

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#93 texasfight54
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DR on Wii sounds terrible.. I thought the game was hard enough with on the 360. Must be terrible with the Wii controls :S
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#94 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"] it call funding 360 an dPS3 projects. You didn't get the memo. They use the wii to generate some income to make PS3 and 360 games.ogvampire

they wont waste their time making games that they dont think will sell. they arent worried about funding ps3/360 games, they are worried about staying in business

thats true too, but I think it has more with just milking money out of the wii fanbase since standards seem to real low there.

dont you remember the ps3 Lost Planet port?

capcom just does bad ports for some reason. you see it as milking, i see it as porting...

PS3 is widely known as a system that normally get bad ports though due to the cell.
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#95 mtron32
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]If you want Dead Rising 2, you should buy this version. :DZhengi

screw that. the 360 one already sold a million.

Bingo.

Dead Rising 2 will definately come out, just a matter of when. And hopefully it shows up on PS3 too.

Obviously, 1 million wasn't enough or else Capcom would be making a Dead Rising 2.

not sure why they keep trying to port 360 and ps3 games to that system. The graphics will never hold up.

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Plus the downsize for supporting it is if it does well then there is going to be another bad version of the Wii and might not be released on the other consoles.

too_much_eslim

Captain Assumptions is jealous of you

or history of ports proves his point

He is clearly saying that supporting this one would lead to a bad DR sequel exclusevly on the Wii.

And since DR2 doesnt exist, the quality of Wii ports is completely irrelevant to how good DR2Wii could be.

He's just assuming things

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#97 Zhengi
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not sure why they keep trying to port 360 and ps3 games to that system. The graphics will never hold up.mtron32

Maybe cause 3rd party devs keep losing money and they need to get it back by putting those games on a real system ;) :P

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#98 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"][QUOTE="istreakforfood"]

Plus the downsize for supporting it is if it does well then there is going to be another bad version of the Wii and might not be released on the other consoles.

Fawlcon_Pawnch

Captain Assumptions is jealous of you

or history of ports proves his point

He is clearly saying that supporting this one would lead to a bad DR sequel exclusevly on the Wii.

And since DR2 doesnt exist, the quality of Wii ports is completely irrelevant to how good DR2Wii could be.

On a technical level he is right, but It will be catered more to the system so it would turn out good, but be bad for those who liked teh original.
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#99 Fawlcon_Pawnch
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DR on Wii sounds terrible.. I thought the game was hard enough with on the 360. Must be terrible with the Wii controls :Stexasfight54

It uses the Resident Evil 4 Wii controls, which is the best you could ask for.

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#100 istreakforfood
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Fawlcon_Pawnch"][QUOTE="istreakforfood"]

Plus the downsize for supporting it is if it does well then there is going to be another bad version of the Wii and might not be released on the other consoles.

Fawlcon_Pawnch

Captain Assumptions is jealous of you

or history of ports proves his point

He is clearly saying that supporting this one would lead to a bad DR sequel exclusevly on the Wii.

And since DR2 doesnt exist, the quality of Wii ports is completely irrelevant to how good DR2Wii could be.

He's just assuming things

The DR sequel of the wii has a good chance of being similar to the DR version the Wii is receiving. The 360 version and the Wii version of DR's gameplay isn't the same.