Debunking Popular PC Gaming Myths - Extremetech.com

One of the best written pieces on the net, a must read for all PC Gamers and haters at the same time...

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2188336,00.asp

"If you're a long-time PC gamer, you've heard it all before. Your favorite gaming platform is dying, and it's all about the consoles now. After all, gaming on the PC is too expensive. It's too complicated and unreliable. The sales just aren't there. All the cool games are on consoles. PCs are fine for World of Warcraft, but everything else is better played on a console, unless you're a diehard competitive first-person shooter nut.

Of course, PC enthusiasts know this isn't true. But the rest of the world is eating this FUD up, and it's creating a false impression that if you ignore the PC as a gaming platform, you're not missing anything. So let's clear this up right now. Here, I present the five most common myths about PC gaming, and the actual truth you don't hear about too often in the mainstream (and even gaming) press. Bear in mind, this isn't coming from a hardcore PC gaming zealot. I have an Xbox 360, PS3, Wii, DS, and PSP. I'm there the first day on all the new console launches, I have a GamerScore of almost 10,000, I know the other side of it. But I also know that enjoying PC gaming doesn't mean emptying your bank account, constant troubleshooting, and making due of nothing but shooters and online RPGs. Continued..."

I wish I had the power to stickie threads.

/systemwars

lol this link can be used to prove wrong almost any argument that anyone can try to come up with against the pcMizarus

I booked mark it :)

Great post.

Make sure to bookmark the link, and use it to as response to all these damn dellusional hater threads, rather than task yourself with the arduous duty of arguing against the fanboys.

I don't see why there needs to be a sticky on this one. Anyway... I wonder where the PC haters went.smokeydabear076

most people wont even bother reading all that, and the ones that do will stay queit about the pc for couple of weeks

I read it all...and I'm still not convinced. I already agree that PC offers a great online experience. But when the guy is debunking the cost myth by admiting it will cost $800 - $1500 just to enter the game (compared to a $300 console). It isn't exactly winning me over. Then he goes on to say that patching isn't that big of deal...and his reasoning is because WIndows patches itself? What about other software and what about patching games? Sure I have a PC already and could buy the uprgrades he recomends for maybe $500 - $600 (cost of PS3), but that leads me to games.

He says its much more difficult to patch console games than PC games as his reasoning. Uhmmm...I don't recal ever having to patch one of my console games.

I notice he doesn't address the fact that consoles offer way more games in way more genres. I don't play FPS or RTS games. So what does that leave for PC gaming for me that consoles don't offer MORE of? Oh...I can buy old games for cheap. Great. Then why did I bother paying to upgrade my PC?

Look. I've gone down the PC road, and it wasn't for me. I'm a gamer...not a tech-nerd. I want to play games and not worry about all the hassles that gaming on PC brings. It's as simple as that. Consoles are less hassle.

ZIMdoom

Steam auto patch games(not everygame needs to be patch anyways), and PCs have more genres then consoles

u pc guys should blame those guy who load the games off bittorent. those r the ones destroying pc gaming...Fruuky

You do know that console games can also be pirated right? And PSP games too.

u pc guys should blame those guy who load the games off bittorent. those r the ones destroying pc gaming...Fruuky

orly? So basically you're saying "I didn't read the article?"

Besides, last I checked console game piracy, more specifically Xbox 360 game piracy, wasn't much better off than PC game piracy. Maybe you should get yourself up-to-date on these issues.

I read it all...and I'm still not convinced. I already agree that PC offers a great online experience. But when the guy is debunking the cost myth by admiting it will cost $800 - $1500 just to enter the game (compared to a $300 console). It isn't exactly winning me over. Then he goes on to say that patching isn't that big of deal...and his reasoning is because WIndows patches itself? What about other software and what about patching games? Sure I have a PC already and could buy the uprgrades he recomends for maybe $500 - $600 (cost of PS3), but that leads me to games.

He says its much more difficult to patch console games than PC games as his reasoning. Uhmmm...I don't recal ever having to patch one of my console games.

I notice he doesn't address the fact that consoles offer way more games in way more genres. I don't play FPS or RTS games. So what does that leave for PC gaming for me that consoles don't offer MORE of? Oh...I can buy old games for cheap. Great. Then why did I bother paying to upgrade my PC?

Look. I've gone down the PC road, and it wasn't for me. I'm a gamer...not a tech-nerd. I want to play games and not worry about all the hassles that gaming on PC brings. It's as simple as that. Consoles are less hassle.

ZIMdoom

yeah.. thats not truth pc has more games and more genres look it up...

its easyer to patch pc games, thats why you dont see patchs for console games very often, it theres a problem on a pc game they patch it, if theres a problem on a console game? suck it up, thats pretty much it till this generation(now consoles have a solid internet conection and hdd's making it a little easyer but still harder then making patchs for pc's)

800-1500$ its just you first build after that most of your purshases will be upgrades, i bought myself a 700$ pc 1year and a half ago, now to play crysis on ultra high i just need to upgrade my 6800gs to a 8800gts, and that rig should last me another 3years, then i might need to build a whole new rig to keep up with graphics, by then consoles will be already realesing their next gen counterpart so in the long run pc will be cheaper.

not to mention that no PC gamer would ever pay a mounthly fee to play a fps(halo iam looking at you)

[QUOTE="Fruuky"]u pc guys should blame those guy who load the games off bittorent. those r the ones destroying pc gaming...Velocitas8

orly? So basically you're saying "I didn't read the article?"

Besides, last I checked console game piracy, more specifically Xbox 360 game piracy, wasn't much better off than PC game piracy. Maybe you should get yourself up-to-date on these issues.

people on systemwars seems to completely ignore the fact that modchips are out there, and that torrents are also used to pirate 360,ps3 and wii games

sticky sticky !!!

[QUOTE="Fruuky"]u pc guys should blame those guy who load the games off bittorent. those r the ones destroying pc gaming...Velocitas8

orly? So basically you're saying "I didn't read the article?"

Besides, last I checked console game piracy, more specifically Xbox 360 game piracy, wasn't much better off than PC game piracy. Maybe you should get yourself up-to-date on these issues.

I must admit, the article gave me a lot of new insights, thanks TC. Im SURE those points have already been said here, but I guess it takes an article to really bash it in.

[QUOTE="Velocitas8"]

[QUOTE="Fruuky"]u pc guys should blame those guy who load the games off bittorent. those r the ones destroying pc gaming...Fruuky

orly? So basically you're saying "I didn't read the article?"

Besides, last I checked console game piracy, more specifically Xbox 360 game piracy, wasn't much better off than PC game piracy. Maybe you should get yourself up-to-date on these issues.

So I'm guessing your also the type of people that you need a $5000 PCs?

the lvl of console piracy compared to pc iracy is like 1 to 100... so better get up to date urself and mayhaps watch how the sells compare for example: bioshock:Fruuky

You have NO idea what you're talking about.

Look for yourself. Halo 3 and Fifa '08 for the Xbox 360 are in the top 20 MOST ACTIVE TORRENTS on the internet right now. Halo 3 also had thousands upon thousands of completed downloads within HOURS of its intial uploading, DAYS before the game was even released.

Oh, and NPD sales numbers don't count digital purchases for PC..which is a route a huge number of PC gamers take. Especially in the case of Bioshock. Digital purchases avoid the problematic DRM included in the retail copy.

[QUOTE="Velocitas8"]

[QUOTE="Fruuky"]u pc guys should blame those guy who load the games off bittorent. those r the ones destroying pc gaming...Fruuky

orly? So basically you're saying "I didn't read the article?"

Besides, last I checked console game piracy, more specifically Xbox 360 game piracy, wasn't much better off than PC game piracy. Maybe you should get yourself up-to-date on these issues.

funny that you picked the best selling pc game of august, http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/34271/BioShock-Best-Selling-PC-Game-of-August

we know the piracy on consoles are not on the same level as it is on the pc, but it is out there, and most people end up buyng the oficial game for the extra perks

as in blizzard games, people dont pirate it because if they do they wont be able to play on b.net

BF series same as above multiplayer

crysis will apply to the same category

counter strike source has the steam as does half life 2 , so most people that are accuatly intrested on play the game will buy it, most of the people that pirate games just werent that much intrested on the game to begin with and woudnt buy it in the first place, so instead they pirate it

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

I read it all...and I'm still not convinced. I already agree that PC offers a great online experience. But when the guy is debunking the cost myth by admiting it will cost $800 - $1500 just to enter the game (compared to a $300 console). It isn't exactly winning me over. Then he goes on to say that patching isn't that big of deal...and his reasoning is because WIndows patches itself? What about other software and what about patching games? Sure I have a PC already and could buy the uprgrades he recomends for maybe $500 - $600 (cost of PS3), but that leads me to games.

He says its much more difficult to patch console games than PC games as his reasoning. Uhmmm...I don't recal ever having to patch one of my console games.

I notice he doesn't address the fact that consoles offer way more games in way more genres. I don't play FPS or RTS games. So what does that leave for PC gaming for me that consoles don't offer MORE of? Oh...I can buy old games for cheap. Great. Then why did I bother paying to upgrade my PC?

Look. I've gone down the PC road, and it wasn't for me. I'm a gamer...not a tech-nerd. I want to play games and not worry about all the hassles that gaming on PC brings. It's as simple as that. Consoles are less hassle.

Mizarus

yeah.. thats not truth pc has more games and more genres look it up...

its easyer to patch pc games, thats why you dont see patchs for console games very often, it theres a problem on a pc game they patch it, if theres a problem on a console game? suck it up, thats pretty much it till this generation(now consoles have a solid internet conection and hdd's making it a little easyer but still harder then making patchs for pc's)

800-1500$ its just you first build after that most of your purshases will be upgrades, i bought myself a 700$ pc 1year and a half ago, now to play crysis on ultra high i just need to upgrade my 6800gs to a 8800gts, and that rig should last me another 3years, then i might need to build a whole new rig to keep up with graphics, by then consoles will be already realesing their next gen counterpart so in the long run pc will be cheaper.

not to mention that no PC gamer would ever pay a mounthly fee to play a fps(halo iam looking at you)

PC fans keep saying the PC has more games and more genres. I'll give on the more games point. But more genres? I'm not convinced. Maybe it does, all I know is what I see when I go to the game store. The PC library IS heavily dominated by a couple genres, with expansions coming in second.

As for your other points, all you did was repeat what I said as if it was a rebuttal. It's not. As I said, PC is more hassle than consoles and there is no denying it.

The fact remains that I am correct. Clearly more and more people are moving to console games. Surely there is a reason. I can only speak for myself and i think I've made my opinion very clear. PC gaming is too much hassle for me. It is not worth it when I am not interested in the majority of games that the PC offers. Sorry Hermits...deal with it. You are starting to sound like Trekkies who can't figure out why so many others don't worship Star Trek...which you clearly believe is a superior TV show. Well, guess what. Nobody cares. And since all your arguements boil down to, "It's not THAT big a hassle" or "Patching isn't THAT big a deal" or "You don't upgrade THAT often"...you're not going to convince anyone.

[QUOTE="Fruuky"][QUOTE="Velocitas8"]

[QUOTE="Fruuky"]u pc guys should blame those guy who load the games off bittorent. those r the ones destroying pc gaming...Lonelynight

orly? So basically you're saying "I didn't read the article?"

Besides, last I checked console game piracy, more specifically Xbox 360 game piracy, wasn't much better off than PC game piracy. Maybe you should get yourself up-to-date on these issues.

So I'm guessing your also the type of people that you need a $5000 PCs?

[QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

I read it all...and I'm still not convinced. I already agree that PC offers a great online experience. But when the guy is debunking the cost myth by admiting it will cost $800 - $1500 just to enter the game (compared to a $300 console). It isn't exactly winning me over. Then he goes on to say that patching isn't that big of deal...and his reasoning is because WIndows patches itself? What about other software and what about patching games? Sure I have a PC already and could buy the uprgrades he recomends for maybe $500 - $600 (cost of PS3), but that leads me to games.

He says its much more difficult to patch console games than PC games as his reasoning. Uhmmm...I don't recal ever having to patch one of my console games.

I notice he doesn't address the fact that consoles offer way more games in way more genres. I don't play FPS or RTS games. So what does that leave for PC gaming for me that consoles don't offer MORE of? Oh...I can buy old games for cheap. Great. Then why did I bother paying to upgrade my PC?

Look. I've gone down the PC road, and it wasn't for me. I'm a gamer...not a tech-nerd. I want to play games and not worry about all the hassles that gaming on PC brings. It's as simple as that. Consoles are less hassle.

ZIMdoom

yeah.. thats not truth pc has more games and more genres look it up...

its easyer to patch pc games, thats why you dont see patchs for console games very often, it theres a problem on a pc game they patch it, if theres a problem on a console game? suck it up, thats pretty much it till this generation(now consoles have a solid internet conection and hdd's making it a little easyer but still harder then making patchs for pc's)

800-1500$ its just you first build after that most of your purshases will be upgrades, i bought myself a 700$ pc 1year and a half ago, now to play crysis on ultra high i just need to upgrade my 6800gs to a 8800gts, and that rig should last me another 3years, then i might need to build a whole new rig to keep up with graphics, by then consoles will be already realesing their next gen counterpart so in the long run pc will be cheaper.

not to mention that no PC gamer would ever pay a mounthly fee to play a fps(halo iam looking at you)

PC fans keep saying the PC has more games and more genres. I'll give on the more games point. But more genres? I'm not convinced. Maybe it does, all I know is what I see when I go to the game store. The PC library IS heavily dominated by a couple genres, with expansions coming in second.

As for your other points, all you did was repeat what I said as if it was a rebuttal. It's not. As I said, PC is more hassle than consoles and there is no denying it.

The fact remains that I am correct. Clearly more and more people are moving to console games. Surely there is a reason. I can only speak for myself and i think I've made my opinion very clear. PC gaming is too much hassle for me. It is not worth it when I am not interested in the majority of games that the PC offers. Sorry Hermits...deal with it. You are starting to sound like Trekkies who can't figure out why so many others don't worship Star Trek...which you clearly believe is a superior TV show. Well, guess what. Nobody cares. And since all your arguements boil down to, "It's not THAT big a hassle" or "Patching isn't THAT big a deal" or "You don't upgrade THAT often"...you're not going to convince anyone.

Well with your mind set, of course we can't change your mind.

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="Fruuky"][QUOTE="Velocitas8"]

[QUOTE="Fruuky"]u pc guys should blame those guy who load the games off bittorent. those r the ones destroying pc gaming...Fruuky

orly? So basically you're saying "I didn't read the article?"

Besides, last I checked console game piracy, more specifically Xbox 360 game piracy, wasn't much better off than PC game piracy. Maybe you should get yourself up-to-date on these issues.

So I'm guessing your also the type of people that you need a $5000 PCs?

Well I guess you are

[QUOTE="Velocitas8"]

[QUOTE="Fruuky"]u pc guys should blame those guy who load the games off bittorent. those r the ones destroying pc gaming...Fruuky

orly? So basically you're saying "I didn't read the article?"

Besides, last I checked console game piracy, more specifically Xbox 360 game piracy, wasn't much better off than PC game piracy. Maybe you should get yourself up-to-date on these issues.

Console piracy is huge on torrents. Halo 3 was on torrrents before the game even launched. Also, piracy is bigger on PC for one simple reason, more people play games on PC rather than console, so naturally it's higher.

u pc guys should blame those guy who load the games off bittorent. those r the ones destroying pc gaming...Fruuky

What about the mod chippers + manafacturers?

And what about the greedy mother companies, who are causing game prices to rise with royalties, promting more people to seek out mod chips?

And last time I checked a Torrent portal, Halo 3 had the most seeders and peers by far...

[QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

I read it all...and I'm still not convinced. I already agree that PC offers a great online experience. But when the guy is debunking the cost myth by admiting it will cost $800 - $1500 just to enter the game (compared to a $300 console). It isn't exactly winning me over. Then he goes on to say that patching isn't that big of deal...and his reasoning is because WIndows patches itself? What about other software and what about patching games? Sure I have a PC already and could buy the uprgrades he recomends for maybe $500 - $600 (cost of PS3), but that leads me to games.

He says its much more difficult to patch console games than PC games as his reasoning. Uhmmm...I don't recal ever having to patch one of my console games.

I notice he doesn't address the fact that consoles offer way more games in way more genres. I don't play FPS or RTS games. So what does that leave for PC gaming for me that consoles don't offer MORE of? Oh...I can buy old games for cheap. Great. Then why did I bother paying to upgrade my PC?

Look. I've gone down the PC road, and it wasn't for me. I'm a gamer...not a tech-nerd. I want to play games and not worry about all the hassles that gaming on PC brings. It's as simple as that. Consoles are less hassle.

ZIMdoom

yeah.. thats not truth pc has more games and more genres look it up...

its easyer to patch pc games, thats why you dont see patchs for console games very often, it theres a problem on a pc game they patch it, if theres a problem on a console game? suck it up, thats pretty much it till this generation(now consoles have a solid internet conection and hdd's making it a little easyer but still harder then making patchs for pc's)

800-1500$ its just you first build after that most of your purshases will be upgrades, i bought myself a 700$ pc 1year and a half ago, now to play crysis on ultra high i just need to upgrade my 6800gs to a 8800gts, and that rig should last me another 3years, then i might need to build a whole new rig to keep up with graphics, by then consoles will be already realesing their next gen counterpart so in the long run pc will be cheaper.

not to mention that no PC gamer would ever pay a mounthly fee to play a fps(halo iam looking at you)

PC fans keep saying the PC has more games and more genres. I'll give on the more games point. But more genres? I'm not convinced. Maybe it does, all I know is what I see when I go to the game store. The PC library IS heavily dominated by a couple genres, with expansions coming in second.

As for your other points, all you did was repeat what I said as if it was a rebuttal. It's not. As I said, PC is more hassle than consoles and there is no denying it.

The fact remains that I am correct. Clearly more and more people are moving to console games. Surely there is a reason. I can only speak for myself and i think I've made my opinion very clear. PC gaming is too much hassle for me. It is not worth it when I am not interested in the majority of games that the PC offers. Sorry Hermits...deal with it. You are starting to sound like Trekkies who can't figure out why so many others don't worship Star Trek...which you clearly believe is a superior TV show. Well, guess what. Nobody cares. And since all your arguements boil down to, "It's not THAT big a hassle" or "Patching isn't THAT big a deal" or "You don't upgrade THAT often"...you're not going to convince anyone.

pc has naval sims, sims, rpgs,mmorpgs,racers,sports(from rugby and golf to soccer and cricket) party games, kids games(really kiddy games) third person shooters, adventure, puzzles(myst&cia), horror, any genre you can think of its also avaliable on the pc, the one and only genre thats week on the pc is the fighter genre.

and you dont need to upgrade very often, if you buy the right parts you will be upgrading for the first time after 4 years, and then if you want to keep up with playng games at max settings you might need a new righ 2-3 years after that.

yeah lets associate pc gamers with people that love star trek that makes SENSE! LOL i hate that show btw.

patching is something that a 4years old can do if you think its too much of a hassle then good luck getting a job

PC doesn't have many japanese games! The hermits have been owned!!! Well thats the only good argument against the PC I know.. And nobody really cares.. omgimba

accuatly pc gets all the dating sims on japan, and most of them are based of hentai, they are pretty big over there

[QUOTE="Fruuky"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="Fruuky"][QUOTE="Velocitas8"]

[QUOTE="Fruuky"]u pc guys should blame those guy who load the games off bittorent. those r the ones destroying pc gaming...Lonelynight

orly? So basically you're saying "I didn't read the article?"

Besides, last I checked console game piracy, more specifically Xbox 360 game piracy, wasn't much better off than PC game piracy. Maybe you should get yourself up-to-date on these issues.

So I'm guessing your also the type of people that you need a $5000 PCs?

Well I guess you are

if u can live to play on medium settings at a average framerate u will need to invest less but i dont wanna do. of course beginning with the middle of a consoles lifespan even sub par seting pc games will start to look better then any consle game. i just got bored to race up with the technology and im not that hardcore any longer. i startet with a c64 back in 1988 when i was 8 years old went to magiga 500plus then amiga 1200, then with my confirmation i got a pentium75, then a 133, p2 266, celeron 433, athlon600, xp1333 and then i thought to myself: stop this **** get a console every 6 years and have just fun with it.Fruuky

Thats just your opinion ;)

I don't mind playing games on medium settings

[QUOTE="omgimba"]PC doesn't have many japanese games! The hermits have been owned!!! Well thats the only good argument against the PC I know.. And nobody really cares.. Mizarus

accuatly pc gets all the dating sims on japan, and most of them are based of hentai, they are pretty big over there

ROFL :lol:

[QUOTE="Mizarus"][QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

I read it all...and I'm still not convinced. I already agree that PC offers a great online experience. But when the guy is debunking the cost myth by admiting it will cost $800 - $1500 just to enter the game (compared to a $300 console). It isn't exactly winning me over. Then he goes on to say that patching isn't that big of deal...and his reasoning is because WIndows patches itself? What about other software and what about patching games? Sure I have a PC already and could buy the uprgrades he recomends for maybe $500 - $600 (cost of PS3), but that leads me to games.

He says its much more difficult to patch console games than PC games as his reasoning. Uhmmm...I don't recal ever having to patch one of my console games.

I notice he doesn't address the fact that consoles offer way more games in way more genres. I don't play FPS or RTS games. So what does that leave for PC gaming for me that consoles don't offer MORE of? Oh...I can buy old games for cheap. Great. Then why did I bother paying to upgrade my PC?

Look. I've gone down the PC road, and it wasn't for me. I'm a gamer...not a tech-nerd. I want to play games and not worry about all the hassles that gaming on PC brings. It's as simple as that. Consoles are less hassle.

ZIMdoom

yeah.. thats not truth pc has more games and more genres look it up...

its easyer to patch pc games, thats why you dont see patchs for console games very often, it theres a problem on a pc game they patch it, if theres a problem on a console game? suck it up, thats pretty much it till this generation(now consoles have a solid internet conection and hdd's making it a little easyer but still harder then making patchs for pc's)

800-1500$ its just you first build after that most of your purshases will be upgrades, i bought myself a 700$ pc 1year and a half ago, now to play crysis on ultra high i just need to upgrade my 6800gs to a 8800gts, and that rig should last me another 3years, then i might need to build a whole new rig to keep up with graphics, by then consoles will be already realesing their next gen counterpart so in the long run pc will be cheaper.

not to mention that no PC gamer would ever pay a mounthly fee to play a fps(halo iam looking at you)

PC fans keep saying the PC has more games and more genres. I'll give on the more games point. But more genres? I'm not convinced. Maybe it does, all I know is what I see when I go to the game store. The PC library IS heavily dominated by a couple genres, with expansions coming in second.

As for your other points, all you did was repeat what I said as if it was a rebuttal. It's not. As I said, PC is more hassle than consoles and there is no denying it.

The fact remains that I am correct. Clearly more and more people are moving to console games. Surely there is a reason. I can only speak for myself and i think I've made my opinion very clear. PC gaming is too much hassle for me. It is not worth it when I am not interested in the majority of games that the PC offers. Sorry Hermits...deal with it. You are starting to sound like Trekkies who can't figure out why so many others don't worship Star Trek...which you clearly believe is a superior TV show. Well, guess what. Nobody cares. And since all your arguements boil down to, "It's not THAT big a hassle" or "Patching isn't THAT big a deal" or "You don't upgrade THAT often"...you're not going to convince anyone.

The PC userbase has always been niche in the States compared to console gaming, you are incorrect to state that "more and more people are moving to console games". That's untrue, especially in Europe and most parts of Asia. If you find it a hassle, that's your loss, as you will and are missing out on some great games, not to mention, you sound absurdly lazy to think PC Gaming is a "hassle", I myself find that humorous.

Kinda funny though, you're using the stacked deck argument against the PC, that was specifically stated in the article. Comparing all consoles against the PC platform is absurd, and when you compare each and every platform, the PC stands strong. Why should the 360 be lumped in with the PS3 and Wii or Ps2? It shouldn't. It's not consoles vs. PC, like some of you fanboys would want to suggest, it's each and every platform vs. each and every platform.

As a gamer of all platforms, I can say with great confidence that I wouldn't trade PC Gaming for all the consoles combined. Also, word to the wise, I wouldn't be calling people nerds when you youself are posting on an internet gaming site.....

/\ Well if PC gamers love Star Trek, and there are 200million PC gamers, then how come Star Trek has such a niche cult following.

Heck me personally, I think nothing of it. Hell im not a huge Star Wars fan either. I have bogan and surfie mates who like Star Wars MUCH more than me. And ironically those Bogan, Surfie and stoner mates also play PC games often - Doom, Battlefield and C&C.

With 200million PC gamers you would expect a huge variety of people for a huge variety of genres.

its my opinion but: just to say real pc gaming isnt at least 3 times the cost of console gaming is just a LIEFruuky

If you mean by real=Max graphics

Then you should also include the pirce of a HDTV for consoles

its my opinion but: just to say real pc gaming isnt at least 3 times the cost of console gaming is just a LIEFruuky

of course a PC is more expensive, it's a PC! To add gaming to a current PC is most likely going to be cheaper than investing in a console with periphials and more expensive games. That's just the truth...

Well with your mind set, of course we can't change your mind.

Lonelynight

That is sory of my point. this thread was created as an attempt for Hermits to feel superior over us lowly console gamers. As if debunking these "myths" will suddenly make everybody fall in love with PC gaming again like the did when it was the only viable option.

But people didn't quit PC gaming because they felt games sold better on consoles. And to argue that PC offers more games and a better gaming experience goes against the basic principles of capitalism...that consumers vote with their dollars. Clearly there are tens of millions of people who prefer console gaming, and to argue that not ONE of them has a legitimate reason to back their decision is being not only self-righteous, but extremely obtuse.

I am willing to admit that PC gaming offers some benefits. Yet nobody seems willing to accept (or even address) my most basic point. PC gaming is more hassle and that turns people off.

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]

Well with your mind set, of course we can't change your mind.

ZIMdoom

That is sory of my point. this thread was created as an attempt for Hermits to feel superior over us lowly console gamers. As if debunking these "myths" will suddenly make everybody fall in love with PC gaming again like the did when it was the only viable option.

But people didn't quit PC gaming because they felt games sold better on consoles. And to argue that PC offers more games and a better gaming experience goes against the basic principles of capitalism...that consumers vote with their dollars. Clearly there are tens of millions of people who prefer console gaming, and to argue that not ONE of them has a legitimate reason to back their decision is being not only self-righteous, but extremely obtuse.

I am willing to admit that PC gaming offers some benefits. Yet nobody seems willing to accept (or even address) my most basic point. PC gaming is more hassle and that turns people off.

That is complete horse manure...I posted this because it needs to be said, period. The PC is always being bashed with myths and downright haters who don't even have a gaming rig to begin with, all the time here at GS and other online sites.

[QUOTE="Fruuky"]its my opinion but: just to say real pc gaming isnt at least 3 times the cost of console gaming is just a LIELonelynight

If you mean by real=Max graphics

Then you should also include the pirce of a HDTV for consoles

depends on what resolution you are on, with a 19inch monitor you can play games at 1440x900 with a 8800gtswith maxed graphics for a long time,(upcoming games also) now dont say pc gamers need to play on 33inch 5000$ dolars Lcd monitors becaue i belive we all know thats not the case

[QUOTE="Fruuky"]its my opinion but: just to say real pc gaming isnt at least 3 times the cost of console gaming is just a LIELonelynight

If you mean by real=Max graphics

Then you should also include the pirce of a HDTV for consoles

Console gamers babble that PC gamers need to buy a new video card (e.g. 8800/2900) for the best visuals, while they have to buy a HD TV to output the best visuals - which are ironically inferior to the new video cards.