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#1 heylokbing
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Anyone agree if not you obviously don't know what a good RPG

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#2 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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most of us haven't played it yet, comes out in the states october 6th
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#3 Yandere
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Anyone agree if not you obviously don't know what a good RPG

heylokbing

Isn't that opinionated? I usually find action RPGs bad, but I'm still picking this up to support Atlus.

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#4 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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The game looks terrible, . Besides, Jandurin is hyping it, and that's NOT a good sign :P
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The only great thing i see from that game is it difficulty other than that it look like a dungeon dragon garbage :(. Borderlands is coming sooner and it looks way better than this.
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#6 3KindgomsRandy
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Anyone agree if not you obviously don't know what a good RPG

heylokbing

Why bother asking? You aren't really interested in anyone else's opinion, you just want some sychophants to agree with you and make you feel validated in your opinion.

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#7 ManicAce
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It could be. But tbh there hasn't been much competition "in a while". I've heard so little about it, is it more like Diablo or Mass Effect? As far as I am concerned RPGs should always be divided into jRPGs, action-RPGs, MMORPGs and wRPGs because liking one most certainly doesn't mean you'll like the rest.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]The game looks terrible, . Besides, Jandurin is hyping it, and that's NOT a good sign :P

i also hyped metroid prime 3 bioshock and too human .... ugh, you're right.
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The only great thing i see from that game is it difficulty other than that it look like a dungeon dragon garbage :(. Borderlands is coming sooner and it looks way better than this.Syferonik
borderlands comes out half a month later
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#10 pyromaniac223
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I would disagree but to each his own.
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#11 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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i also hyped metroid prime 3 bioshock and too human .... ugh, you're right.Jandurin
Too Human? :o I didn't expect that.
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#12 bczigothigh
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I completely agree. I've went through 6 playthroughs on it, and still find it hard to put the controller down.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"] i also hyped metroid prime 3 bioshock and too human .... ugh, you're right.IronBass
Too Human? :o I didn't expect that.

too human was awesome, though. metroid prime 3 and bioshock were not :(
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#14 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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Its the best game of 09 and the best RPG this gen.

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#15 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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too human was awesome, though. metroid prime 3 and bioshock were not :(Jandurin

First I was like:

:^|

but then I lol'ed

=^D

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#16 LookAnDrolL
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I'm seriusly hyped about this game. Diablo predecesor confirmed.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] i also hyped metroid prime 3 bioshock and too human .... ugh, you're right.Jandurin
Too Human? :o I didn't expect that.

too human was awesome, though. metroid prime 3 and bioshock were not :(

opposite day is in october
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#18 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"]I'm seriusly hyped about this game. Diablo predecesor confirmed.

you mean successor[QUOTE="IronBass"]First I was like :^| but then I lol'ed =^D :P

hahaha
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opposite day is in octoberAndrovinus
the funniest part is that i'm being serious. for all its glaring flaws, i enjoyed too human a lot more and played it a lot longer than the other 2 >_>
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#20 Dibdibdobdobo
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Anyone agree if not you obviously don't know what a good RPG

heylokbing
I've just been playing Suikoden on the DS for the last several hours which is awesome. I've also played TWEWY. Knights in the knightmare and will be getting around too Chrono Cross as son as i've finished Suikoden and TWEWY. No theres been loads of quality RPG's out.
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[QUOTE="Syferonik"]The only great thing i see from that game is it difficulty other than that it look like a dungeon dragon garbage :(. Borderlands is coming sooner and it looks way better than this.Jandurin
borderlands comes out half a month later

Oh gawd what a noob i am...its actually over half a month but still Borderlands>Demons Souls :)

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#22 Yandere
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Syferonik"]The only great thing i see from that game is it difficulty other than that it look like a dungeon dragon garbage :(. Borderlands is coming sooner and it looks way better than this.Syferonik

borderlands comes out half a month later

Oh gawd what a noob i am...its actually over half a month but still Borderlands>Demons Souls :)

Meh, I rather have a action game then a FPS.

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#23 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Now let's remember Dragon Age Origins. Oh Dragon Age Origins. That game will rock. 8)
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#24 herezjarchus
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Best Hack'n'Slash in a while? Probably.

Best RPG in a while? I think not.

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#25 h575309
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]The game looks terrible, . Besides, Jandurin is hyping it, and that's NOT a good sign :PJandurin
i also hyped metroid prime 3 bioshock and too human .... ugh, you're right.

Too Human was unrightfully bashed. It may not be an amazing game, but it only garnered that much hate because of the hype. Anyway.... **runs for his life**
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] i also hyped metroid prime 3 bioshock and too human .... ugh, you're right.Jandurin
Too Human? :o I didn't expect that.

too human was awesome, though. metroid prime 3 and bioshock were not :(

No offense but that was joke right? Too Human better than BioShock? BioShock was a striped doen version of System Shock 2 but it is far better than Too Human.

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#27 imaps3fanboy
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Hmm..It does looks good, is it worth a japanese import?

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#28 Kashiwaba
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Best Hack'n'Slash in a while? Probably.

Best RPG in a while? I think not.

herezjarchus

Hack'n'Slash are you kidding if you think Demon's souls is about Hack'n'Slash only then you will never pass the first stage DS is simply the best RPG of 2009.

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#29 Yandere
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Hmm..It does looks good, is it worth a japanese import?

imaps3fanboy

Do Korea if you want to import, it has a english version, if that is the correct location.. But I say wait and buy it from Atlus.

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#30 XanderZane
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Anyone agree if not you obviously don't know what a good RPG

heylokbing
The games not even out yet. What are you talking about? KOTOR was a great RPG and so was NWN, and DQ VIII. So, yes I know what a great RPG is.
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#31 Yandere
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[QUOTE="heylokbing"]

Anyone agree if not you obviously don't know what a good RPG

XanderZane

The games not even out yet. What are you talking about? KOTOR was a great RPG and so was NWN, and DQ VIII. So, yes I know what a great RPG is.

You can import it man.

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#32 herezjarchus
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[QUOTE="herezjarchus"]

Best Hack'n'Slash in a while? Probably.

Best RPG in a while? I think not.

Kashiwaba

Hack'n'Slash are you kidding if you think Demon's souls is about Hack'n'Slash only then you will never pass the first stage DS is simply the best RPG of 2009.

So where are the RPG elements in it (like for example: focus on story, dialogues and conversations etc. etc.)? The main focus of the game is around monster killing, and that's what hack'n'slash games are about...
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#33 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="XanderZane"][QUOTE="heylokbing"]

Anyone agree if not you obviously don't know what a good RPG

The games not even out yet. What are you talking about? KOTOR was a great RPG and so was NWN, and DQ VIII. So, yes I know what a great RPG is.

import it.
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#34 Odrec
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Hell yeah! AAAE confirmed!
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#35 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="herezjarchus"]

Best Hack'n'Slash in a while? Probably.

Best RPG in a while? I think not.

herezjarchus

Hack'n'Slash are you kidding if you think Demon's souls is about Hack'n'Slash only then you will never pass the first stage DS is simply the best RPG of 2009.

So where are the RPG elements in it (like for example: focus on story, dialogues and conversations etc. etc.)? The main focus of the game is around monster killing, and that's what hack'n'slash games are about...

It got a story though its not that great and also there is dialogues and conversations with NPCs and sometimes some NPCs asks you to help their masters from a certain level in the game ( thats considered a quest ).

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#36 gamer620
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[QUOTE="Yandere"]

[QUOTE="heylokbing"]

Anyone agree if not you obviously don't know what a good RPG

Isn't that opinionated? I usually find action RPGs bad, but I'm still picking this up to support Atlus.

You should buy it to Support From Software. Most of their games go under the radar unless they are named Armored Core. Otogi and Lost Kingdoms 2 were two of the finest games last gen and hardly anyone knew about them. i personally doubt that this game sells well, despite the fact that it will likely be pretty damn good.
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Definetly best RPG of 09 possibly of this gen.

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#38 herezjarchus
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[QUOTE="herezjarchus"][QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

Hack'n'Slash are you kidding if you think Demon's souls is about Hack'n'Slash only then you will never pass the first stage DS is simply the best RPG of 2009.

Kashiwaba

So where are the RPG elements in it (like for example: focus on story, dialogues and conversations etc. etc.)? The main focus of the game is around monster killing, and that's what hack'n'slash games are about...

It got a story though its not that great and also there is dialogues and conversations with NPCs and sometimes some NPCs asks you to help their masters from a certain level in the game ( thats considered a quest ).

I'm not saying that it's a bad game or something, but I believe a game needs more than only a fun and challenging gameplay to be considered the best RPG of no matter what time period.

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#39 Yandere
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[QUOTE="Yandere"]

[QUOTE="heylokbing"]

Anyone agree if not you obviously don't know what a good RPG

gamer620

Isn't that opinionated? I usually find action RPGs bad, but I'm still picking this up to support Atlus.

You should buy it to Support From Software. Most of their games go under the radar unless they are named Armored Core. Otogi and Lost Kingdoms 2 were two of the finest games last gen and hardly anyone knew about them. i personally doubt that this game sells well, despite the fact that it will likely be pretty damn good.

From Software doesn't make as 'under the radar' games as Atlus, they're also going through financial trouble.

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In the action-rpg genre, it's probably the best since diablo 2. but there hasn't really been too many action-rpgs. I played it from about march
as of now, I think it's one of the best this gen, but there's still WAY more promising titles such as ff13, resonance of fate, and white knight chronicles coming out..justto name a few. Awesome game nonetheless and a 10/10 in my book.

i personally doubt that this game sells well, despite the fact that it will likely be pretty damn good.gamer620

The game wasn't originally set to come to North America, and I believe From Software even stated that it wasn't going to. It wasn't until it started selling out on the Import websites that Atlus decided it was a good idea to bring it here. If anyone recalls preordering, I preordered through playasia 2 weeks before the release late feb, and I got an email 3 days before the release stating that there were too many preorders and they didn't predict that they would outsell their quota or w/e. So they gave me 10% off and said I wouldn't get it until late march.

So I cancelled that and got it from ebay because many of the websites were on backorder for quite a few months.

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#41 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="herezjarchus"] So where are the RPG elements in it (like for example: focus on story, dialogues and conversations etc. etc.)? The main focus of the game is around monster killing, and that's what hack'n'slash games are about...herezjarchus

It got a story though its not that great and also there is dialogues and conversations with NPCs and sometimes some NPCs asks you to help their masters from a certain level in the game ( thats considered a quest ).

I'm not saying that it's a bad game or something, but I believe a game needs more than only a fun and challenging gameplay to be considered the best RPG of no matter what time period.

Its a WRPG made by a Japanese devs so dont expect it to be like Tales or FF serieses but its still a great game though I hate WRPGs but I liked Demon's souls alot.

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#42 zarshack
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I love Demon's Souls.

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I totally agree and I'm no RPG fan at all. Infact I rarely ever even give an RPG the time of day, but this game is an action RPG and it looks really-really good.

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#44 herezjarchus
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[QUOTE="herezjarchus"]

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

It got a story though its not that great and also there is dialogues and conversations with NPCs and sometimes some NPCs asks you to help their masters from a certain level in the game ( thats considered a quest ).

Kashiwaba

I'm not saying that it's a bad game or something, but I believe a game needs more than only a fun and challenging gameplay to be considered the best RPG of no matter what time period.

Its a WRPG made by a Japanese devs so dont expect it to be like Tales or FF serieses but its still a great game though I hate WRPGs but I liked Demon's souls alot.

WRPGs (not those like diablo or other hack'n'slash games) are all about storytelling, character development, dialogues and choices and consequences (take Planescape: Torment for instance). It's not like having a good gameplay in rpgs is a bad thing, but always when I pick up a rpg game, I expect at least a decent story which will keep my interest and attention to the end of the game, even when the gameplay would start to become boring.

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WRPGs (not those like diablo or other hack'n'slash games) are all about storytelling, character development, dialogues and choices and consequences (take Planescape: Torment for instance). It's not like having a good gameplay in rpgs is a bad thing, but always when I pick up a rpg game, I expect at least a decent story which will keep my interest and attention to the end of the game, even when the gameplay would start to become boring.

herezjarchus

Demon's Souls gameplay doesnt get boring. There is a story but it simply serves as for your reason for doing things. The game isnt driven by a strong narrative with plot twists. The game is driven by its great gameplay with the dungeon crawling and awesome boss fights.

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#46 herezjarchus
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[QUOTE="herezjarchus"]

WRPGs (not those like diablo or other hack'n'slash games) are all about storytelling, character development, dialogues and choices and consequences (take Planescape: Torment for instance). It's not like having a good gameplay in rpgs is a bad thing, but always when I pick up a rpg game, I expect at least a decent story which will keep my interest and attention to the end of the game, even when the gameplay would start to become boring.

zarshack

Demon's Souls gameplay doesnt get boring. There is a story but it simply serves as for your reason for doing things. The game isnt driven by a strong narrative with plot twists. The game is driven by dungeon crawling and awesome boss fights.

Yes, you are right. But IMO it's not enough to call it the best RPG in a while (and that is why I call it a hack'n'slash).

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#47 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="herezjarchus"] I'm not saying that it's a bad game or something, but I believe a game needs more than only a fun and challenging gameplay to be considered the best RPG of no matter what time period.

herezjarchus

Its a WRPG made by a Japanese devs so dont expect it to be like Tales or FF serieses but its still a great game though I hate WRPGs but I liked Demon's souls alot.

WRPGs (not those like diablo or other hack'n'slash games) are all about storytelling, character development, dialogues and choices and consequences (take Planescape: Torment for instance). It's not like having a good gameplay in rpgs is a bad thing, but always when I pick up a rpg game, I expect at least a decent story which will keep my interest and attention to the end of the game, even when the gameplay would start to become boring.

As I said before the game got a good story though its not very deep, it got NPCs and quests and I guarantee DS gameplay wont get boring untill you beat it 3 or 4 times at least with over 100 hours gameplay, I'm more into JRPGs like rales, FF, DQ and wild arms than games like Demon's souls but yet DS was too great after beating it 5 times with 205 hours playtime I can tell its the best RPG for 2009 ( Well this year lacked good JRPGs SO4 was disappointing ).

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I just beat my imported copy last week and thought it was a pretty bad game.

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#49 Kashiwaba
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I just beat my imported copy last week and thought it was a pretty bad game.

BioShockOwnz

Well no game appeals to everyone people got different tastes.

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#50 XturnalS
Member since 2004 • 5020 Posts

Goddamnit, the more and more I hear about how good DS is it makes me want to get it so bad. Far too many RPG's coming out this holiday. I mean Alpha Protocol, Borderlands, Dragon Age, and Demon's Souls?

Not to mention The Witcher which I've barely touched.

**** me. And haven't even gotten into the other awesome games coming out.