Demon's Souls is the best RPG I've ever played.

it's good at what it does, atmospheric, poignant, challenging, and huge replayability, but I've beat it 7 or so times, it's not the best RPG around, but the best on the PS3 yes.

You need to play more RPG's.

JK... but I don't understand the praise that game gets at all.

It's on my list. I've heard it's hard as ****.

then you must only have played demon's souls

It's an O.K. RPG, it wouldn't be in my top 20 (if I had one).

Im behind the game 100%, but you dont think thats a little extreme? It is your opinion though.

it's good at what it does, atmospheric, poignant, challenging, and huge replayability, but I've beat it 7 or so times, it's not the best RPG around, but the best on the PS3 yes.

Dead-Memories

Orly?

It's one of the reasons that I'll probably end up buying a PS3 eventually.
I haven't played it yet though.

Its very easily the best JRPG this gen, and its one of the best RPGs this gen

Some of you making comments as if it is odd I think DS is my fav RPG, it isn't odd at all, remember games like ME2 have Metacritic shattering scores and imo ended up being superficial souless games. Don't JUST critisize my fav RPG, post why it's not yours and which one is. Plox. FriendlyGaimz

Planescape: Torment. But to be fair I haven't played Demon Souls. IF it's better then PS: Torment then it must be great. :)

Demon's Souls is totally emo

Its very easily the best JRPG this gen, and its one of the best RPGs this gen

hamzah1235

It's fairly shallow. It's okay, but with everyone stating how hard it is, when it isn't really all that difficult, it makes me somewhat like it less. The difficulty is exagerated and once you get the hang of what little gameplay it has, it's only as hard as you make it. If your stupid, of course it's going to be hard.

Demon's Souls is totally emo

skinny_man_69

Its very easily the best JRPG this gen, and its one of the best RPGs this gen

It's fairly shallow. It's okay, but with everyone stating how hard it is, when it isn't really all that difficult, it makes me somewhat like it less. The difficulty is exagerated and once you get the hang of what little gameplay it has, it's only as hard as you make it. If your stupid, of course it's going to be hard.

OneSanitarium

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

it's good at what it does, atmospheric, poignant, challenging, and huge replayability, but I've beat it 7 or so times, it's not the best RPG around, but the best on the PS3 yes.

FriendlyGaimz

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Demon's Souls is totally emo

FriendlyGaimz

[QUOTE="FriendlyGaimz"][QUOTE="skinny_man_69"]

Demon's Souls is totally emo

skinny_man_69

Bland World, Bland Characters, Lacking content, poor online system (not poor mechanics), and just genuinley not half as hard as mentioned, buggy, abusable. Most overated game of the year ever.Birdy09

[QUOTE="Birdy09"]Bland World, Bland Characters, Lacking content, poor online system (not poor mechanics), and just genuinley not half as hard as mentioned, buggy, abusable. Most overated game of the year ever.hamzah1235

Yeah, reviewers only do say facts, not things like opinions.

[QUOTE="hamzah1235"][QUOTE="Birdy09"]Bland World, Bland Characters, Lacking content, poor online system (not poor mechanics), and just genuinley not half as hard as mentioned, buggy, abusable. Most overated game of the year ever.Yangire

Yeah, reviewers only do say facts, not things like opinions.

[QUOTE="hamzah1235"][QUOTE="Birdy09"]Bland World, Bland Characters, Lacking content, poor online system (not poor mechanics), and just genuinley not half as hard as mentioned, buggy, abusable. Most overated game of the year ever.Yangire

Yeah, reviewers only do say facts, not things like opinions.

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It's fairly shallow. It's okay, but with everyone stating how hard it is, when it isn't really all that difficult, it makes me somewhat like it less. The difficulty is exagerated and once you get the hang of what little gameplay it has, it's only as hard as you make it. If your stupid, of course it's going to be hard.

FriendlyGaimz

I would say I've played games I found harder than Demon's Souls. Persona 4 was harder than Demon's Souls, and I would even say way more rewarding. Valkyria Chronicles is even harder than Demon's Souls to me. I just don't see where the praise for difficulty comes in. Just because you die a few times doesn't make it extremly hard, especially when it's as forgiving as Demon's Souls.

I suppose one comparative to Demon's Souls would be something like I Wanna Be The Guy. Yeah, you didn't expect that necessarily, but once you know it's coming, it's infinintly easier.

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[QUOTE="hamzah1235"] ...So much fail...:/. All of the points you listed are the complete opposite of what all reviewers sayhamzah1235

Yeah, reviewers only do say facts, not things like opinions.

Well that's your opinion is it not?

Reviews are generally useless because they're opinionated, but hey that's just my opinion.

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[QUOTE="Birdy09"]Bland World, Bland Characters, Lacking content, poor online system (not poor mechanics), and just genuinley not half as hard as mentioned, buggy, abusable. Most overated game of the year ever.hamzah1235

[QUOTE="hamzah1235"][QUOTE="Yangire"]

Yeah, reviewers only do say facts, not things like opinions.

Yangire

Well that's your opinion is it not?

Reviews are generally useless because they're opinionated, but hey that's just my opinion.

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[QUOTE="hamzah1235"] The opinon card is extremely annoying...SW needs to stop using it to excuses mindless fanboysFriendlyGaimz

Well that's your opinion is it not?

Reviews are generally useless because they're opinionated, but hey that's just my opinion.

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Opinion.

How are reviews objective? They're usually opinions with a few facts about the game in it.

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[QUOTE="hamzah1235"] The opinon card is extremely annoying...SW needs to stop using it to excuses mindless fanboysFriendlyGaimz

Well that's your opinion is it not?

Reviews are generally useless because they're opinionated, but hey that's just my opinion.

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Opinion.

[QUOTE="hamzah1235"][QUOTE="Birdy09"]Bland World, Bland Characters, Lacking content, poor online system (not poor mechanics), and just genuinley not half as hard as mentioned, buggy, abusable. Most overated game of the year ever.Birdy09

:lol:. I have never had a bug occur in my long play time of the game, and no reviewer has ever complained about it being buggy. The characters arent memorable, ill agree with that, though the backstory is very interesting. The amount of content the game has, (Which is a ton), is always praised by multiple reviewers. Also, while it may not have the same amount of items lkike Diablo, it is in no way mimicking Diablo or lacking in amount of items, items which can be upgraded many, many times. The online system is very intuitive and innovative and is also praised by every reviewer who has reviewed the game

[QUOTE="FriendlyGaimz"][QUOTE="Yangire"]

Well that's your opinion is it not?

Reviews are generally useless because they're opinionated, but hey that's just my opinion.

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Opinion.

Yangire

How are reviews objective? They're usually opinions with a few facts about the game in it.

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[QUOTE="FriendlyGaimz"] No. Reviewers are objective with opinions sprinkled ontop. It isn't the other way around. If you want to bash praise the game be objective, don't say something vague and them put imo. That's using the meaningless opinion card. Say, I didn't like the combat because it was slow and unresponsive and the weapons felt underpowered or something. Don't say bad combat imo. That's just... FriendlyGaimz

How are reviews objective? They're usually opinions with a few facts about the game in it.

[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="hamzah1235"] ...So much fail...:/. All of the points you listed are the complete opposite of what all reviewers sayhamzah1235

:lol:. I have never had a bug occur in my long play time of the game, and no reviewer has ever complained about it being buggy. The characters arent memorable, ill agree with that, though the backstory is very interesting. The amount of content the game has, (Which is a ton), is always praised by multiple reviewers. Also, while it may not have the same amount of items lkike Diablo, it is in no way mimicking Diabloorlacking inamount of items, items which can be upgradedmany, manytimes. The online system is very intuitive and innovative and is also mpraised by every reviewer who has reviewed the game

What? have you even played the game? none of those characters are memorable... The content is small, its just the fact that you repeat it, now the same can be said for games like Diablo ... but then that has a huge meta-item system far beyond the crap abusuable 1 time items in this ahlf-arsed JRPG attempt at Diablo. The only system is poor, you cant get proper allignements unless your in offline mode, its bugged and never fixed, its laggy, its limited, its random ... its "MEH" compared to PC Gaming, which is what im comparing it too.... Its not Hard, the 1.1 when getting use to it was, the second you could level the games difficulty plummeted heavily, most of the bosses you could potion spam on, the ones that you could were ones with 1 or 2 attacks that were so easily dodged it was laughable. Buggy? mate... you could puyt the "lower enemy detection" on, grab thier attention, go so far and just stab them in the back, its utter crap. Abusable in every sense. But then, console gamers dont have high standards for competitive online games, so im not suprized it got what it did.Birdy09

:lol:. I have never had a bug occur in my long play time of the game, and no reviewer has ever complained about it being buggy. The characters arent memorable, ill agree with that, though the backstory is very interesting. The amount of content the game has, (Which is a ton), is always praised by multiple reviewers. Also, while it may not have the same amount of items lkike Diablo, it is in no way mimicking Diabloorlacking inamount of items, items which can be upgradedmany, manytimes. The online system is very intuitive and innovative and is also mpraised by every reviewer who has reviewed the game

The game has soul, it doesn't BS around with gimmicks, it ain't emo, the combat is polished, fluid, brutal and addicting, the game is masterfully desgined imo. I've played ME1 and 2, Fallout 3, Oblivion, FF13 and I think that's all this gen, but DS is the only one I've finished, all those other games felt souless, pointless, I'm not sure I can put into words how DS made me feel. ---- The only thing I didn't like was the world theme of 2 and 5, I still liked the bosses and know it was well designed, but I didn't like the style of them, the rest were all awesome. I love how free you are, you can kill your bank and he's gone forever(until NG+), you can go from melee to spellcaster, you can help fellow NPC's or kill them, or ignore them. The freedom to pick the world you want to go to next. The weapons and gear are ownage imo. The bosses are easily some of the best this gen. You can tell they took some inspiration from SotC, the bosses are sick. Tower Knight, Penetrator, Flamelurker, Allant were some of my favs. ---- How come this game gets so little talk? What did you guys think? I bought the game because my friend bought it and let me play half the first level, I instahooked. Curiously he ended up selling it because he couldn't get passed 1-2 :PFriendlyGaimz

@ Birdy I agree reviews aren't the end of. They are just an outline. THey are however more then simple opinions, and are as objective as possible, depending on the competence of the reviewer ofc. And I obviously disagree with your view on DS, I do agree with the game being abusable, I beat a couple of bosses and farmed the red eyed knight with "exploits". All in the name of saving some hours farming :P FriendlyGaimz

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[QUOTE="FriendlyGaimz"] No. Reviewers are objective with opinions sprinkled ontop. It isn't the other way around. If you want to bash praise the game be objective, don't say something vague and them put imo. That's using the meaningless opinion card. Say, I didn't like the combat because it was slow and unresponsive and the weapons felt underpowered or something. Don't say bad combat imo. That's just... FriendlyGaimz

How are reviews objective? They're usually opinions with a few facts about the game in it.

Sure they compare the game to other games in the genre, but they also rate it on how much they enjoy the game, or how much they enjoyed the music, or how the art sty1e looks, or how good the controls are.. All of those things and more are opinionated and they shape reviews.

Also, saying that reviewers give good reviews to games/genres that they themselves do not enjoy is BS let me share you this quote from a review on Worth Playing:

"Games like The Dark Spire prove just how subjective game reviews are; while it is near perfection in its chosen genre, the average gamer would trade in this game or simply throw it away after spending less than an hour with it."

It does matter if they enjoy the genre, and it does matter if they like the game, game reviews are opinionated.

P.S. He rated it 6.0 because he does not enjoy the genre that game is in, and the overall game.

[QUOTE="FriendlyGaimz"]@ Birdy I agree reviews aren't the end of. They are just an outline. THey are however more then simple opinions, and are as objective as possible, depending on the competence of the reviewer ofc. And I obviously disagree with your view on DS, I do agree with the game being abusable, I beat a couple of bosses and farmed the red eyed knight with "exploits". All in the name of saving some hours farming :P Birdy09