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#1 0rin
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Kevin VanOrdis writing the review for Demon's Souls as we speak. Now, he seems to me to be a rather... harsh critic when it comes to reviews. This is good, because it means he tells it like it is, and doesn't seem to bite into the hype (or he's just trying to be anti-hype, but more likely it's the former)

So my guess is, he's going to give Demon's Souls a 7.5-8.0. He's going to knock it heavily for its difficulty "mindless tedium ad infinitum, and pointless grind fest" or something along those lines. Now, keep in mind, this is just a guess, and I really do hope I'm wrong. but I just have a feeling, after watching the On The Spot segment with him showing DS, and given his recent history of reviews. it's looking rather bleak here for this otherwise critically acclaimed RPG.

Lets just hope Kevin see's the light :P or at least likes the game as much as other reviewers seemingly have.

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#2 Blixxed
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He's going have either been payed off by Microsoft or doesn't like the PS3, according to fanboys at least.

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I've been expecting an 8 for a long time, but a 7.5 would not shock me. And 8.5 would be mildly surprising. Now if it somehow gets AAA, then I'd be completely shocked. I could really care less though. I'm going to enjoy my Deluxe edition and sniff the hell out of all the goodies and booklets that come with it :lol:

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He's going have either been payed off by Microsoft or doesn't like the PS3, according to fanboys at least.

Blixxed

or maybe he is just patriotic enough to do such mistake. since from software is japanese

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#5 0rin
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[QUOTE="Blixxed"]

He's going have either been payed off by Microsoft or doesn't like the PS3, according to fanboys at least.

Or maybe.. you know.. he might actually just not like the game? Personally, I'm going into it knowing damn well I'm going to die a lot. And that it's going to be uber challenging. that is why I'm buying the game. So as long as his only quams are it's difficulty, then I will have absolutely no problems with picking this game up. (In fact, I already don't)
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#6 zarshack
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Kevin VanOrdis writing the review for Demon's Souls as we speak. Now, he seems to me to be a rather... harsh critic when it comes to reviews. This is good, because it means he tells it like it is, and doesn't seem to bite into the hype (or he's just trying to be anti-hype, but more likely it's the former)

So my guess is, he's going to give Demon's Souls a 7.5-8.0. He's going to knock it heavily for its difficulty "mindless tedium ad infinitum, and pointless grind fest" or something along those lines. Now, keep in mind, this is just a guess, and I really do hope I'm wrong. but I just have a feeling, after watching the On The Spot segment with him showing DS, and given his recent history of reviews. it's looking rather bleak here for this otherwise critically acclaimed RPG.

Lets just hope Kevin see's the light :P or at least likes the game as much as other reviewers seemingly have.

0rin

Not to mince words but, i think you are wrong. I think he will love the game, and i think it will be AAA.

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He won't knock it for being hard. He is a ninja gaiden fan for one :? He will knock the game for being punishing. For instance he is pointed out time and time again that while NG 1 was hard, it was always extremely satisfying and rarely entered cheap territory. Where as Ninja Gaiden 2 wasn't hard, it was punishing hard and just cheap.
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#8 zarshack
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He won't knock it for being hard. He is a ninja gaiden fan for one :? He will knock the game for being punishing. For instance he is pointed out time and time again that while NG 1 was hard, it was always extremely satisfying and rarely entered cheap territory. Where as Ninja Gaiden 2 wasn't hard, it was punishing hard and just cheap. jg4xchamp
Demon's Souls isnt cheap though. Following him on twitter and he sounds genuinely obsessed with the game.

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He's going have either been payed off by Microsoft or doesn't like the PS3, according to fanboys at least.

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no wai,he gave 10 to MGS4,the only reason why so many cows are here (or back in 08)
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]He won't knock it for being hard. He is a ninja gaiden fan for one :? He will knock the game for being punishing. For instance he is pointed out time and time again that while NG 1 was hard, it was always extremely satisfying and rarely entered cheap territory. Where as Ninja Gaiden 2 wasn't hard, it was punishing hard and just cheap. zarshack

Demon's Souls isnt cheap though. Following him on twitter and he sounds genuinely obsessed with the game.

I never said it was, i was just saying if he was going to knock the game. he would knock it for being cheap. He has no problem with a hard game. he has a problem with a game that is punishing.
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#11 0rin
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Good points about twitter and MGS4. But I still just don't want to get my hopes up. I've been burned before for hyping games here. I just hope it does well sales-wise, and that it actually starts moving consoles, and makes Atlus a lot of money, so that they can bring us DLC and maybe even Demon's Souls 2 :D
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Meh, I think it's going to be AAAe or 9.0 for the least. This is no ordinary JRPG.

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\[QUOTE="0rin"]Good points about twitter and MGS4. But I still just don't want to get my hopes up. I've been burned before for hyping games here. I just hope it does well sales-wise, and that it actually starts moving consoles, and makes Atlus a lot of money, so that they can bring us DLC and maybe even Demon's Souls 2 :D

forget just Demon's Souls 2. I want more rpgs on consoles period.
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#14 SionPT
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Meh, I think it's going to be AAAe or 9.0 for the least. This is no ordinary JRPG.

FireEmblem_Man

this men is right, givin this game less then 8.5 would be a crime, this not just another JRPG

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this not just another JRPGSionPT
Right. It's a WRPG. Anyway, it will be AAE.
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#16 0rin
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again, I'm hoping for AAAE, but honestly... Gamespot has a tendancy to undercut the competition. At any rate. I hope I'm wrong. I'm buying the game regardless, as Demon's Souls is RIGHT UP my alley. it's like Clive Barker's Monster Hunter :P
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#17 poeton22
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Honestly, from what I saw of his reviews it seems as if he tends to rate RPG's a bit higher, than other games but more importantly this game is shaking up JRPGS that have become a bit stagnant these last few years, and you can't act like that isn't true.

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#18 danish-death
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Kevin VanOrdis writing the review for Demon's Souls as we speak. Now, he seems to me to be a rather... harsh critic when it comes to reviews. This is good, because it means he tells it like it is, and doesn't seem to bite into the hype (or he's just trying to be anti-hype, but more likely it's the former)

So my guess is, he's going to give Demon's Souls a 7.5-8.0. He's going to knock it heavily for its difficulty "mindless tedium ad infinitum, and pointless grind fest" or something along those lines. Now, keep in mind, this is just a guess, and I really do hope I'm wrong. but I just have a feeling, after watching the On The Spot segment with him showing DS, and given his recent history of reviews. it's looking rather bleak here for this otherwise critically acclaimed RPG.

Lets just hope Kevin see's the light :P or at least likes the game as much as other reviewers seemingly have.

0rin

I'm sure Kevin V already have put about 50 hours into the game (I believe he said so on the SW forum the other day) and he liked it. He also said the game "will be getting the score it deserves". So I'm confident it'll be getting 9/10.

Putting 50 hours+ into a game that's too hard for one doesn't seem likely.

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#19 dercoo
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He gave NGS 2 a 8.5, so there is a decent chance DS could match that or even exceed it.

In this video link(11:15 his opinions, 5:30 preview start)he seems to be in-joying it. To quote "I can't stop playing it".

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#20 Some-Mist
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He gave NGS 2 a 8.5, so there is a decent chance DS could match that or even exceed it.

In this video link(11:15 his opinions, 5:30 preview start)he seems to be in-joying it. To quote "I can't stop playing it".

dercoo

beat me to it! I was going to say, KVO already expressed his opinion on the game and it seemed like a very positive one. I'm expecting AA-AAA.

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#21 TheCoreGamer_
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plz stop trying to knock this game for a difficulty that you havent even experienced. from the reviews so far this game is AAAE calibur, the only question kevV probably has is should it be 9 or 9.5. or should i stay true to my roots, and give it a 10 despite all the crap i may hear about that.
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#22 Jfisch93
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IMO I don't care about GS's score anymore. From the player reviews to all the 9/10's from other sites, this is definitely a day one buy.

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If he has played more than 50 hours then there is a probability that the game doesn't seem so difficult to him anymore but then again it could be 50 hours on the first stage! :P I think he will score it well. If he's used to play the NG games then he is used to frustration and difficulty so that may not weight to much on his review.
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After watching the latest on the spot im pretty confident vanord is going to give it a high score. He seemed to really like it.

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#25 zarshack
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If he has played more than 50 hours then there is a probability that the game doesn't seem so difficult to him anymore but then again it could be 50 hours on the first stage! :P I think he will score it well. If he's used to play the NG games then he is used to frustration and difficulty so that may not weight to much on his review.RedruM_I
from what i have seen he was having trouble with some of the bosses. the TOTS episode the other night showed that he was atleast upto 2-2 and the boss in 2-2 is one of the hardest in the game imo.

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#26 whatisazerg
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[QUOTE="SionPT"]this not just another JRPGCherokee_Jack
Right. It's a WRPG. Anyway, it will be AAE.

wrong... its a JRPG... J = Japanese.... From Software are Japanse devs.... case closed.

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not it wont

9/10 is the average

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#28 abuabed
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an 8.5 would be perfectly fitting for this game, I don't care much about scores because I'll be getting it nonetheless.
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#29 Lionheart08
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Well, in his profile, he rated Batman Arkham Asylum a 10/10 so who knows? :P

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#30 foxhound_fox
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Van Ord is quite harsh. Though, you never know, he might realize that it is difficult by design.

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wrong... its a JRPG... J = Japanese.... From Software are Japanse devs.... case closed.

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Yeah... but its made in the vein of a western-made RPG. Which calls into question the validity of those labels.

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#32 Revolution316
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on the show "on the spot" he seemed to really like the game. he said its really addictive and he thinks about the game 24/7. he didnt mind the game being tooo hard. i dont know i say 8.5. also he said the game is the most talked about game in the studio. theres something about this game that caught us all off gaurd. lol....i honestly hate rpg games but maybe this title can do it for me

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He won't knock it for being hard. He is a ninja gaiden fan for one :? He will knock the game for being punishing. For instance he is pointed out time and time again that while NG 1 was hard, it was always extremely satisfying and rarely entered cheap territory. Where as Ninja Gaiden 2 wasn't hard, it was punishing hard and just cheap. jg4xchamp
The thing is, that's not the case. The real reality is that in NG2 you have to stay on your feet and enemies don't follow a single pattern. NG2 was just much harder than NG1. Not cheaper. No, not at all.
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]He won't knock it for being hard. He is a ninja gaiden fan for one :? He will knock the game for being punishing. For instance he is pointed out time and time again that while NG 1 was hard, it was always extremely satisfying and rarely entered cheap territory. Where as Ninja Gaiden 2 wasn't hard, it was punishing hard and just cheap. AssassinFonce
The thing is, that's not the case. The real reality is that in NG2 you have to stay on your feet and enemies don't follow a single pattern. NG2 was just much harder than NG1. Not cheaper. No, not at all.

Still doesn't change the fact that bad camera angles leads to a quite a few unavoidable hits, which is why a lot of people called the game punishing and cheap. Ninja Gaiden strikes the balance perfectly, being hard but fair. A game that's hard is fine, as long as it's fair and there's a reason why you died.
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[QUOTE="0rin"][QUOTE="Blixxed"]

He's going have either been payed off by Microsoft or doesn't like the PS3, according to fanboys at least.

Or maybe.. you know.. he might actually just not like the game? Personally, I'm going into it knowing damn well I'm going to die a lot. And that it's going to be uber challenging. that is why I'm buying the game. So as long as his only quams are it's difficulty, then I will have absolutely no problems with picking this game up. (In fact, I already don't)

in the latest episode of "on the spot," he seemed to love it. i'm guessing 8.5. doesn't matter to me. i' m preordered and can't wait for this game.
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="0rin"][QUOTE="Blixxed"]

He's going have either been payed off by Microsoft or doesn't like the PS3, according to fanboys at least.

Or maybe.. you know.. he might actually just not like the game? Personally, I'm going into it knowing damn well I'm going to die a lot. And that it's going to be uber challenging. that is why I'm buying the game. So as long as his only quams are it's difficulty, then I will have absolutely no problems with picking this game up. (In fact, I already don't)

in the latest episode of "on the spot," he seemed to love it. i'm guessing 8.5. doesn't matter to me. i' m preordered and can't wait for this game.

get the special edition. i dont usually get them but this one comes with a 150 pg strategy guide and nice casing for 10 bucks more
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#37 MJ4040
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Kevin VanOrd is writing it??? Did you see how he was talking about it in "on the spot"??? Dude basically said that he was addicted to it, so I think that it is going to be AT LEAST A 9.5!!!

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#38 bokiloki
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when everyone else in the world is giving this game so much love. who cares what one guy thinks. btw the dude said that he thought about demon's souls 24 hours a day. if hes not trying to hate he will give it 8.5-9.5.

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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="0rin"] Or maybe.. you know.. he might actually just not like the game? Personally, I'm going into it knowing damn well I'm going to die a lot. And that it's going to be uber challenging. that is why I'm buying the game. So as long as his only quams are it's difficulty, then I will have absolutely no problems with picking this game up. (In fact, I already don't)TheCoreGamer_
in the latest episode of "on the spot," he seemed to love it. i'm guessing 8.5. doesn't matter to me. i' m preordered and can't wait for this game.

get the special edition. i dont usually get them but this one comes with a 150 pg strategy guide and nice casing for 10 bucks more

Yeas youre right. This will be the first (and maybe only, lol) special edition game that I ever bought. And like I said before, if you saw what VanOrd said about Demon Souls on "on the spot", then dont be surprised if he even gave this game a 10!!!
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#40 glez13
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Well in a preview he said the game is difficult and there is a lot of trial and error, but he also said he is enjoying it anyway. I expect an 8.5.

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#41 bczigothigh
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when everyone else in the world is giving this game so much love. who cares what one guy thinks. btw the dude said that he thought about demon's souls 24 hours a day. if hes not trying to hate he will give it 8.5-9.5.

bokiloki

Thats pretty muchhow I was with this game my first couple of playthroughs.

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#42 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="0rin"] Or maybe.. you know.. he might actually just not like the game? Personally, I'm going into it knowing damn well I'm going to die a lot. And that it's going to be uber challenging. that is why I'm buying the game. So as long as his only quams are it's difficulty, then I will have absolutely no problems with picking this game up. (In fact, I already don't)TheCoreGamer_
in the latest episode of "on the spot," he seemed to love it. i'm guessing 8.5. doesn't matter to me. i' m preordered and can't wait for this game.

get the special edition. i dont usually get them but this one comes with a 150 pg strategy guide and nice casing for 10 bucks more

i'll see what i can do...what brick and mortar stores carry the special edition? gamestop doesn't have it, and i really don't like shopping online.
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#43 Revolution316
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[QUOTE="bokiloki"]

when everyone else in the world is giving this game so much love. who cares what one guy thinks. btw the dude said that he thought about demon's souls 24 hours a day. if hes not trying to hate he will give it 8.5-9.5.

bczigothigh

Thats pretty muchhow I was with this game my first couple of playthroughs.

is it really that addicting? what does the game have that would make me come for more? upgrades and stuff?

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#44 TheCoreGamer_
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[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"][QUOTE="clone01"] in the latest episode of "on the spot," he seemed to love it. i'm guessing 8.5. doesn't matter to me. i' m preordered and can't wait for this game.clone01
get the special edition. i dont usually get them but this one comes with a 150 pg strategy guide and nice casing for 10 bucks more

i'll see what i can do...what brick and mortar stores carry the special edition? gamestop doesn't have it, and i really don't like shopping online.

no clue if i dont find it easy im not getting it either.
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#45 Filthybastrd
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Kevin sounds hooked. And he's not that far in.

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#46 bczigothigh
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[QUOTE="bczigothigh"]

[QUOTE="bokiloki"]

when everyone else in the world is giving this game so much love. who cares what one guy thinks. btw the dude said that he thought about demon's souls 24 hours a day. if hes not trying to hate he will give it 8.5-9.5.

Revolution316

Thats pretty muchhow I was with this game my first couple of playthroughs.

is it really that addicting? what does the game have that would make me come for more? upgrades and stuff?

upgrades, better armor, better spells and miracles.. some of the weapon upgrades can take awhile to farm the ingredients to upgrade fully. the most addictive part for me was after kinda having a hard time through the first playthrough figuring out strategies for boss' and regular enemies, my next playthroughs those same areas gave me less an less trouble. It's difficult but when you get good your rewarded and can dominate the sp part anyways, the pvp is another beast altogether.

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#47 patriots7672
Member since 2008 • 3249 Posts

Anyone who reviews Demon's Souls under 9 is a PS3 hater.

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#48 Pale-Folklore
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Nice, I was actually hoping Kevin V would review it.

I'm quite interested in what he has to say, regardless of the score.

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#49 BioShockOwnz
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This is KVO's kinda game it'd seem. 9.0.

It deserves lower, though. :)

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#50 xsubtownerx
Member since 2007 • 10705 Posts

Meh, I think it's going to be AAAe or 9.0 for the least. This is no ordinary JRPG.

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Why do people keep calling it a JRPG? I thought "style" counted for more than "location".