Demon's Souls would be better on the PC

The number of people doing ti is irrelevent.xYamatox

Then why were you trying to downplay the significance of PC controller support, as if nobody uses anything other than the KB+M?

Yet consoles get bashed to death for not having mouse support...xYamatox

Yet nobody was doing that in this thread. You're the one who brought up this irrelevant "argument." You're not even trying to argue that PC gamers don't have/use controllers. You're brining up other, totally irrelevant subjects to make it seem like you've made a meaningful point.

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"HERP DERP INB4 THE POINT THAT MAKES MY POST IRRELEVANT IS MADE"

That's a 360 controller, a 360 Arcade Stick, and a Wiimote+Nunchuk.

Arach666

Yup, and PS3 owners have access to KB&M support, yet Hermits discredit that all the time. The case is no different here.

oh that's easy.

there's UT3 and

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nvm.

Demon's Souls is perfectly fine the way it is. I can't see how it would benefit from mods and alterations. That's kind of like George Lucas' genius plan to make the original Star Wars "better" by forcing in new age CGI. It just doesn't work like that.

Demon's Soulsis just finethe way it is. I can't see how it would benefit from mods and alterations. That's kind of like George Lucas' genius plan to make the original Star Wars "better" by forcing in new age CGI. It just doesn't work like that.

Master_ShakeXXX

That's pretty narrow-minded. Mods are not strictly alterations to existing content.

It can be completely new and original content, levels, game modes, weapons. Of course they won't always be good, but sometimes things come along that are better than stuff that was originally in the game. I think the assertion that some games are better off without mods is..well, wrong.

Demon's Souls is perfectly fine the way it is. I can't see how it would benefit from mods and alterations. That's kind of like George Lucas' genius plan to make the original Star Wars "better" by forcing in new age CGI. It just doesn't work like that.

Master_ShakeXXX

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="xYamatox"]

Yup, and PS3 owners have access to KB&M support, yet Hermits discredit that all the time. The case is no different here.

faithnomor3

oh that's easy.

there's UT3 and

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nvm.

So you ignored the Frag X controller I suggested to him? The controller is read by the PS3 as a Duelshock 3 with the mouse acting in place of the Right Analog stick, meaning it can be used for ALL games, weither they have "real" mouse support, or not.

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[QUOTE="Arach666"] And besides UT3,what other games are compatible with it?xYamatox

oh that's easy.

there's UT3 and

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nvm.

So you ignored the Frag X controller I suggested to him? The controller is read by the PS3 as a Duelshock 3 with the mouse acting in place of the Right Analog stick, meaning it can be used for ALL games, weither they have "real" mouse support, or not.

doesn't matter.

it won't give you what a game actually built around a M/KB can. that isn't the case for the huge list of PC games that were built around both.

So you ignored the Frag X controller I suggested to him? The controller is read by the PS3 as a Duelshock 3 with the mouse acting in place of the Right Analog stick, meaning it can be used for ALL games, weither they have "real" mouse support, or not.xYamatox

It's an interesting device, but how many console games even allow you to customize which button performs what action? That seems like a fairly obvious issue, and would throw its viability into question..unless the hardware itself lets you alter button functions.

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Demon's Soulsis just finethe way it is. I can't see how it would benefit from mods and alterations. That's kind of like George Lucas' genius plan to make the original Star Wars "better" by forcing in new age CGI. It just doesn't work like that.

Velocitas8

That's pretty narrow-minded. Mods are not strictly alterations to existing content.

It can be completely new and original content, levels, game modes, weapons. Of course they won't always be good, but sometimes things come along that are better than stuff that was originally in the game. I think the assertion that some games are better off without mods is..well, wrong.

Maybe I am being narrow-minded but I stick by my opinion. Other than some technical hitches getting fixed (enemies getting stuck to your feet, exploiting bosses) and improved graphics, what else is there to be improved? I think my Star Wars analogy is pretty spot-on in this case.

[QUOTE="xYamatox"]So you ignored the Frag X controller I suggested to him? The controller is read by the PS3 as a Duelshock 3 with the mouse acting in place of the Right Analog stick, meaning it can be used for ALL games, weither they have "real" mouse support, or not.Velocitas8

It's an interesting device, but how many console games even allow you to customize which button performs what action? That seems like a fairly obvious issue, and would throw its viability into question..unless the hardware itself lets you alter button functions.

I believe it comes with a software disk that can change the settings by putting the disk and plugging the device into a computer (waits for sarcastic comment, lol). So yes, the controls can be changed with a laptop/computer someone probably already has lying around the house.

what else is there to be improved?Master_ShakeXXX

It's not always about improvement to the core game. It can be about creating new experiences rather than simply improving on the old one.

Even if we ARE talking about improving a game..no game is perfect. There's always going to be little things that you can improve upon. The modding community has a knack for finding these things.

I believe it comes with a software disk that can change the settings by putting the disk and plugging the device into a computer (waits for sarcastic comment, lol). So yes, the controls can be changed with a laptop/computer someone probably already has lying around the house.xYamatox

That makes sense. I can't remember the last time a console game had anything for control customization beyond the whole "Layout 1, Layout 2" deal..and that would be fairly problematic for something like this.

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Demon's Soulsis just finethe way it is. I can't see how it would benefit from mods and alterations. That's kind of like George Lucas' genius plan to make the original Star Wars "better" by forcing in new age CGI. It just doesn't work like that.

Master_ShakeXXX

That's pretty narrow-minded. Mods are not strictly alterations to existing content.

It can be completely new and original content, levels, game modes, weapons. Of course they won't always be good, but sometimes things come along that are better than stuff that was originally in the game. I think the assertion that some games are better off without mods is..well, wrong.

Maybe I am being narrow-minded but I stick by my opinion. Other than some technical hitches getting fixed (enemies getting stuck to your feet, exploiting bosses) and improved graphics, what else is there to be improved? I think my Star Wars analogy is pretty spot-on in this case.

How can you not see how it would benefit from mods? I've never played the game myself but from seeing videos I can just imagine what kind of levels/new monsters/weapons people could invent to make the game last a LOT longer.

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[QUOTE="Velocitas8"]

That's pretty narrow-minded. Mods are not strictly alterations to existing content.

It can be completely new and original content, levels, game modes, weapons. Of course they won't always be good, but sometimes things come along that are better than stuff that was originally in the game. I think the assertion that some games are better off without mods is..well, wrong.

Eggimannd

Maybe I am being narrow-minded but I stick by my opinion. Other than some technical hitches getting fixed (enemies getting stuck to your feet, exploiting bosses) and improved graphics, what else is there to be improved? I think my Star Wars analogy is pretty spot-on in this case.

How can you not see how it would benefit from mods? I've never played the game myself but from seeing videos I can just imagine what kind of levels/new monsters/weapons people could invent to make the game last a LOT longer.

Mods are ALWAYS better for a game, period. However, I think what he's trying to say is that Demon's Souls has more then enough lasting appeal WITHOUT mods, so they really arn't needed to keep the game fun for a long time.

Hypothetically speaking, every game would be better on the PC. That's why you buy consoles - for console exclusives (and to save money).

everything is better on PC. so yes, Demon's Souls as well.

everything is better on PC. so yes, Demon's Souls as well.

Dead-Memories

Local four player coop games are NOT better on pc. There's no way in heck Madden is better on pc.

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everything is better on PC. so yes, Demon's Souls as well.

Heirren

Local four player coop games are NOT better on pc. There's no way in heck Madden is better on pc.

Remember that you can using any controller you like (Xbox 360 controllers, wii-motes, something else, it's up to you!) and connect your PC to up to 24 monitors and that means there could be up to 24 players (though I don't know too much about grid-iron or whatever it's called). Remember that we are speaking hypothetically here so we assume that Madden is designed to take full advantage of each platforms strengths. Hypothetically speaking, mods on the PC could be godly.

Demon's Souls is perfectly fine the way it is. I can't see how it would benefit from mods and alterations. That's kind of like George Lucas' genius plan to make the original Star Wars "better" by forcing in new age CGI. It just doesn't work like that.

Master_ShakeXXX

Maybe.

You would have to buy a gamepad though as that game would be awful with K/M.

I would of loved to see a pc version of demon's souls. I personally think it would feel fantastic playing it on a m&kb, both combat and inventory managing, assuming it was properly implemented. And of course along with mods, longer online life, graphics, resolution and a pleasing 60+fps.

While we're on topic, what are the most similar games to demons souls that are on pc?

I would of loved to see a pc version of demon's souls. I personally think it would feel fantastic playing it on a m&kb, both combat and inventory managing, assuming it was properly implemented. And of course along with better mods, longer online life, graphics, resolution and a pleasing 60+fps. While we're on topic, what are the most similar games to demons souls that are on pc?kidcool189

[QUOTE="kidcool189"]I would of loved to see a pc version of demon's souls. I personally think it would feel fantastic playing it on a m&kb, both combat and inventory managing, assuming it was properly implemented. And of course along with better mods, longer online life, graphics, resolution and a pleasing 60+fps. While we're on topic, what are the most similar games to demons souls that are on pc?waltefmoney

Japanese games never come to PC

Ultizer

DMC 4 did, and Capcom did it right...they optimized for 64-bit Windows, plus DX 9 & 10.