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#1 Animal-Mother
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Fallout 3 totally deserved GOTY. It's just so great and expansive and beautiful and I have it on PS3. To all you fallout 3 fans do you feel it got robbed of goty?
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Fallout 3 totally deserved GOTY. It's just so great and expansive and beautiful and I have it on PS3. To all you fallout 3 fans do you feel it got robbed of goty?Animal-Mother
Well, Fallout 3 got GOTY on Gamasutra and MGS4 wasn't even in top 10, so I'm happy about their GOTY, not so happy for Gamespot choices, but whatever, even if it's the only thing that officially matters :P

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#3 II_Seraphim_II
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FO3 is one of the worst games I've played in the past 5 years. Yup, bring the hate, I said it!
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My brother hopes to get it for his birthday next week. At first, I thought it looked whack, but seeing how big it is, it looks kind of cool. I cannot wait to play it. MGS 4 though was my GOTY last year.
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#5 clone01
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FO3 is one of the worst games I've played in the past 5 years. Yup, bring the hate, I said it!II_Seraphim_II
i thought it was great. what didn't you like about it (not trying to start an argument, just curious on your take)?
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#6 clone01
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Fallout 3 totally deserved GOTY. It's just so great and expansive and beautiful and I have it on PS3. To all you fallout 3 fans do you feel it got robbed of goty?Animal-Mother
personally, i put FO3 over MGS4 for my favorite, although i enjoyed them both a lot.
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#7 tbone802
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I don't have a problem with MGS4 winning goty here, I haven't got all the way through it yet but it's pretty addicting, although I find the cutscenes to be a little out of hand in terms of their length. I have finished the main quest in Fallout 3 and am trying to get to the level cap and get some extra achievements, overall I think Fallout is a better experience and being a "bad" character is fun as hell.
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I find Fallout 3 far too depressing unfortunately... Brown land, brown water, brown sky, brown towns, brown people, brown monsters, brown loot............
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]FO3 is one of the worst games I've played in the past 5 years. Yup, bring the hate, I said it!clone01
i thought it was great. what didn't you like about it (not trying to start an argument, just curious on your take)?

Repetitive environments

Weak gunplay

Tacked on VATS system to try and fool old school fans and lovers of AP

Useless skills to waste skill points on

Horrendous story

Idiotic moral choices

Repetitive missions that have you going into subways that are copy/pasted

Way to similar to oblivion. This game could be a mod, and that's just wrong.

Lack of fallout humor and "spirit"

Extremely casualized gameplay. FO1 and FO2 weren't popular because of their brain dead gameplay

Superficial character customization. No matter what skills you get, each character plays exactly the same

Pointless AP. Why do I need AP when I can just shoot people even when im out of AP?

Terrible enemy AI. The algorith cant be more complicated than this:

While (EnemyHp > 0)

...If (EnemyHp is less than 30%)

......EnemyFlee

...Else

......If EnemyGun = true

.........EnemyShoot

......Else

.........EnemyCharge

End

//And that ladies and gentlemen, ist he entire algorithm for the basic FO3 enemy AI (hope Bethesda doesnt find out im sharing their secrets!)

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#10 XxSTILL_BORNxX
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I find Fallout 3 far too depressing unfortunately... Brown land, brown water, brown sky, brown towns, brown people, brown monsters, brown loot............ locopatho
Same:P i got bored and depressed by playing it so i stopped and couldn't play it anymore. Although, since i am a huge fan of the MGS series...i would pick MGS4 anyday over FO3.
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FO3 is one of the worst games I've played in the past 5 years. Yup, bring the hate, I said it!II_Seraphim_II
Really? I thought it was okay. :?

It's a horrible Fallout game but on it's own it's not bad.

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#12 clone01
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Repetitive missions that have you going into subways that are copy/pastedII_Seraphim_II
i do certainly agree with that one. the subways definitely got repetitive.
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#13 deactivated-652663614c5e5
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Fallout 3 is an amazing game, but IMO, MGS4 is better and i dont feel that it got robbed. besides, FO3 won GOTY on IGN, that oughta make you happy right?
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#14 DireOwl
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I agree FO3 is my GOTY also.
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#15 Animal-Mother
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Fallout 3 is an amazing game, but IMO, MGS4 is better and i dont feel that it got robbed. besides, FO3 won GOTY on IGN, that oughta make you happy right?idontbeliveit
yes it does to an extant, IDK. Fallout 3 just grew on me like a parasite wanting to eat my brain. I can't really explain why I love it. I just do.
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Haven't played MGS, but I loved F3, my GOTY.
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]FO3 is one of the worst games I've played in the past 5 years. Yup, bring the hate, I said it!II_Seraphim_II
i thought it was great. what didn't you like about it (not trying to start an argument, just curious on your take)?

Repetitive environments

Weak gunplay

Tacked on VATS system to try and fool old school fans and lovers of AP

Useless skills to waste skill points on

Horrendous story

Idiotic moral choices

Repetitive missions that have you going into subways that are copy/pasted

Way to similar to oblivion. This game could be a mod, and that's just wrong.

Lack of fallout humor and "spirit"

Extremely casualized gameplay. FO1 and FO2 weren't popular because of their brain dead gameplay

Superficial character customization. No matter what skills you get, each character plays exactly the same

Pointless AP. Why do I need AP when I can just shoot people even when im out of AP?

Terrible enemy AI. The algorith cant be more complicated than this:

While (EnemyHp > 0)

...If (EnemyHp is less than 30%)

......EnemyFlee

...Else

......If EnemyGun = true

.........EnemyShoot

......Else

.........EnemyCharge

End

//And that ladies and gentlemen, ist he entire algorithm for the basic FO3 enemy AI (hope Bethesda doesnt find out im sharing their secrets!)

I agree with most of those, yet I still had a lot of fun with the game..
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And that ladies and gentlemen, ist he entire algorithm for the basic FO3 enemy AI (hope Bethesda doesnt find out im sharing their secrets!) II_Seraphim_II
Couldn't disagree more. I had guys flank me while others kept me pinned. My fav was I was firing down a corridor at one guy while another went round the side and started bashing my brains in from behind. AP - its an RPG not just a straight shooter Useless skills - such as? Some (unarmed for example) are very useful but they let you play how you want. Story - main quest not the best granted, but some of the sidequests were great. Moral Choices - why are they idiotic? Did you have specific ones in mind? Character creation - oh not so! Play as a melee specialist or someone who likes to snipe or just play the game as a good ol fashionned sniper. Hell you can be a town eating cannibal if you want! Repetitive missions??!?! Man I LOVED most of the sidequests! I guess everyone has different tastes ...
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I liked Fallout 3 and have it for PC but I think MGS4 was way better...
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#20 heretrix
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I love exploring the Capital Wasteland. I don't feel it got robbed, I can understand people's reasons for hating it though.The important thing for me was that I didn't hate it. I'm still playing it.
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Repetitive missions??!?! Man I LOVED most of the sidequests! I guess everyone has different tastes ...blue_hazy_basic
The word "repetitive" gets tossed around here far too often. Hey, life is repetitive too!
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Fallout 3 / GTAIV got the most nods overall for GOTY.

it's a shame, that with the reduced staff at GS, all we were left with was MGS hardcore fans as staff... that's why ya don't call them 'journalists' :P.

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Fallout 3 totally deserved GOTY. It's just so great and expansive and beautiful and I have it on PS3. To all you fallout 3 fans do you feel it got robbed of goty?Animal-Mother
why mgs4 sucked the nano machine concept was overplayed and the story was shoddy the bosses were lame and drebin was a lame plot device to explain the back stories of the crappy bb corps and the ending was a piece of crap also with horrible diolouge not to mention that abomination that was mgo mgs4 was garbage and by far the most overrated game this gen
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]Fallout 3 totally deserved GOTY. It's just so great and expansive and beautiful and I have it on PS3. To all you fallout 3 fans do you feel it got robbed of goty?Lcamm
why mgs4 sucked the nano machine concept was overplayed and the story was shoddy the bosses were lame and drebin was a lame plot device to explain the back stories of the crappy bb corps and the ending was a piece of crap also with horrible diolouge not to mention that abomination that was mgo mgs4 was garbage and by far the most overrated game this gen

Not if GTAIV has anything to say about it...
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]Fallout 3 totally deserved GOTY. It's just so great and expansive and beautiful and I have it on PS3. To all you fallout 3 fans do you feel it got robbed of goty?Lcamm
why mgs4 sucked the nano machine concept was overplayed and the story was shoddy the bosses were lame and drebin was a lame plot device to explain the back stories of the crappy bb corps and the ending was a piece of crap also with horrible diolouge not to mention that abomination that was mgo mgs4 was garbage and by far the most overrated game this gen

no, jjust no
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Well i don't know about FO3 being GOTY, but i do know that GSis the only place that gave MGS4 GOTY. So ill give a :roll: to GS.
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Superficial character customization. No matter what skills you get, each character plays exactly the same

II_Seraphim_II
This is completely wrong.
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#28 Lcamm
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[QUOTE="Lcamm"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]Fallout 3 totally deserved GOTY. It's just so great and expansive and beautiful and I have it on PS3. To all you fallout 3 fans do you feel it got robbed of goty?Animal-Mother
why mgs4 sucked the nano machine concept was overplayed and the story was shoddy the bosses were lame and drebin was a lame plot device to explain the back stories of the crappy bb corps and the ending was a piece of crap also with horrible diolouge not to mention that abomination that was mgo mgs4 was garbage and by far the most overrated game this gen

no, jjust no

all 100% true you fanboys can deny it all you want
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I find Fallout 3 far too depressing unfortunately... Brown land, brown water, brown sky, brown towns,brown people, brown monsters, brown loot............ locopatho
You got a problem with brown people? O__o Just kidding. :P I loved Fallout 3.
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#30 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Lcamm"] why mgs4 sucked the nano machine concept was overplayed and the story was shoddy the bosses were lame and drebin was a lame plot device to explain the back stories of the crappy bb corps and the ending was a piece of crap also with horrible diolouge not to mention that abomination that was mgo mgs4 was garbage and by far the most overrated game this gen Lcamm
no, jjust no

all 100% true you fanboys can deny it all you want

No it's not MGS4 was a beautifully crafted game. What is the perfect score still bothering you?

EDIT: Second off this has nothing to due with the flaws of MGS4, just how I feel Fallout 3 should have won. If your gonna troll leave now.

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IGN gave Fallout 3 Game of the Year so I stand by their decision for once.
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#32 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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this has nothing to due with the flaws of MGS4, just how I feel Fallout 3 should have won. If your gonna troll leave now. Animal-Mother
I agree lets not turn it into another MGS bash fest, stay on topic people!
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#33 krp008
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Yea i was rooting for Fallout 3 as well. amazing game
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[QUOTE="locopatho"]I find Fallout 3 far too depressing unfortunately... Brown land, brown water, brown sky, brown towns,brown people, brown monsters, brown loot............ Bigboi500
You got a problem with brown people? O__o Just kidding. :P I loved Fallout 3.

thats what stuff looks like after a nuclear war...

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#35 hiphops_savior
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I loved Fallout 3, but I really felt that the game had way too many bugs that can be game-stopping.
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FO3 is one of the worst games I've played in the past 5 years. Yup, bring the hate, I said it!II_Seraphim_II
Agreed. I'm an RPG fan and I thought it was a load of crap.
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#37 Lcamm
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FO3 was much better then MGS4

MGS4 is easily the most overrated game this gen

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#38 jfcundiff
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[QUOTE="Lcamm"]

FO3 was much better then MGS4

MGS4 is easily the most overrated game this gen

On topic please! No bashing alright. Save that for a different thread.
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#39 Animal-Mother
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FO3 was much better then MGS4

MGS4 is easily the most overrated game this gen

Lcamm
On topic if you wanna bash MGS4 make a thread
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#40 DontBeHatin1983
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fallout3 is a good game but it feels so empty and no matter where u look it look it looks the same.
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#41 one_on_one
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Well Fallout 3 did win RPGoTY.

Besides MGS4 is an exclusive, plus since the PS3 version didn't get the same score as the other two versions, it probably hurt it chances.

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#42 Master-Thief-09
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Your opinion. GS disagrees.
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#43 organic_machine
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I just didn't find Fallout 3 very compelling. I immediately uninstalled the game. I will probably go back and play it through though. I cannot comment on MGS4.
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Your opinion. GS disagrees.Master-Thief-09
Is that the same Gamespot who thinks MGS4 is technically superior to Crysis?
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#45 micky4889
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I loved fallout too but it had far too many bugs to be GOTY also whats up whith the stupid level cap ?? i reached it when i was just half way through the game
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#46 -DrRobotnik-
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I love both equally. I cant decide between the two, so 2008 had two GOTY's for me.
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#47 XturnalS
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I loved F3 but it has far more shortcomings then MGS4. Am a little biased but MGS4 was perfection for me. F3 is awesome and in any other year it would take the crown but with MGS4 there its that much better then anything else.

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#48 JangoWuzHere
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We are still talking about the awards? well I thought the whole MGS4 > Crysis in terms of graphics means they lost all credibility.
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#49 Lcamm
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MGS4 is by far without a doubt

The most overrated game this console gen bar non

Nothing comes close

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[QUOTE="Master-Thief-09"]Your opinion. GS disagrees.Stevo_the_gamer
Is that the same Gamespot who thinks MGS4 is technically superior to Crysis?

Yeah, but no point beating a dead horse.