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#1 Sihanouk
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Why the trouble? Because the 360 is trying hard to fight two wars at once--the hardcore and the casuals--and it's losing them both. That's why, on Amazon, the best selling Xbox 360 SKU is rarely in the top 50 while the PS3 is consistently in the top 15. http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/videogame.

Let's see why the 360 can't win.

HARD CORE FIGHT: Winner PS3

Neither Xbox 360 or the Wii can now compete with the PS3 for hardcore gaming. 2005, 2006, and 2007 are long gone. In 2008, the biggest (Resistance 2) and most advanced games (Metal Gear Solid 4) are on the PS3. No matter how Microsoft and fanboys try to spin it, Xbox 360 is showing its age; it is no longer the console that pushes the boundaries in HD gaming. In fact, it's the PS3 that wins the following:

Most photorealistic: Gran Turismo 5 Prologue.

Best animation: Uncharted, Metal Gear Solid 4. Soon, Killzone 2.

Best Sounds: Metal Gear Solid 4, which uses uncompressed audio, thanks to the huge space on the Blu-ray disk.

Biggest bosses: Resistance 2, not out yet, but hands-ons have confimed the existence of at least one 300 ft monster.

Biggest multiplayer shooters (that look good): Resistance. Soon, Resistance 2. Killzone 2 is expected to look good for both single and multiplayers.

Best merging of movies and games: Metal Gear Solid 4, Heavy Rain.

Most innovative, user-generated gameplay: Little Big Planet.

Most promising MMOs in development: MAG, The Agency, DC Universe, Free Realms

Most compelling 3D online social interaction: HOME

Best web-browsing: Youtube, Life with Playstation (maps, weather, Google News, etc.)

Most feature rich: Blu-ray

Most high-tech pet simulation: Eyepet

Most high-tech card-based gaming: Eye of Judgment

As such, you are no longer a hardcore gamer this generation if you don't own the PS3. Microsoft is not really using its billions to push the boundaries of next-gen gaming. Instead, it digs its deep pockets to reduce the price of the 360. Why? Because, it knows it can't win on most of the categories listed above. Xbox 360 is simply less advanced than the PS3. That's why Microsoft is focusing on expanding its audience and fight for the casuals.

CASUAL FIGHT: Winner Wii

Sure, Xbox 360 is technechnically the cheapest console right now. If you count the most feature-less SKU, which is the Arcade bundle. On Amazon, at least, the Arcade bundle is far from being the most popular. In any case, the fight for casuals is way beyond the 360's ability.

Free-Online: PS3 > Wii > 360

Cheap games: Wii > 360> PS3

Most casual-oriented games: Wii > 360, PS3

Most casual friendly features: Wii (intuitive controls) > PS3, 360

Most useful non-gaming features: PS3 > Xbox 360 > Wii. Causals don't play games that much and thus they appreciate non-gaming features more.

Cheapest accessories: Wii > PS3 > Xbox 360

Worldwide brand name: PS3, Wii > Xbox 360

Ladies and fanboys, Xbox 360 is stuck between a rock and a hard place. It is stuck between the hard-core and the causals, neither of them seeing the 360 as the console of choice. Mark my words, price cuts and all, Xbox 360 will sell less than most gaming sites expected.

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#2 flatline711
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:roll: Same crap, different day. Move along folks.
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#3 Jynxzor
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The NPD numbers will speak for themselves to show us wether the price drop was as great as Microsoft is touting it to be. I expect sales to be dramatically up, etching out the PS3 back to third place seller but still being far, far behind the Wii.
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#4 thinicer
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You would think that people would learn by now to stop using amazon.com as a sales indicator.
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made me lol
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Gears of War 2 is much bigger than Resistance 2.
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#8 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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I'm beginning to wonder. With the relentless amount of threads Sihanouk makes on the same damn identicle topic, is he trying to convince others... or himself? You know, like how they say, "keep telling yourself that, one day you'll believe it".
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#9 flatline711
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[QUOTE="Sihanouk"]

Most high-tech card-based gaming: Eye of Judgment

whocares4peace

****ing really?

It sure as hell determined whether I was even going to purchase a PS3. I NEED MY HIGH-TECH CARD GAMING!
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I'm beginning to wonder. With the relentless amount of threads Sihanouk makes on the same damn identicle topic, is he trying to convince others... or himself? You know, like how they say, "keep telling yourself that, one day you'll believe it".AdobeArtist
Im thinking hes Ken Kutaragi.

Or at least a Sony marketing employee who gets paid per pro-Sony thread he makes.

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#11 guitardude1243
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I would pick apart several "points" you made in this horribly wrought, unproven, biased, "thing." But I don't have to because you referred to Amazon.com as a credible source, from there it became a comedic dialogue of an Xbox 360 basher. Please try and bring facts and use more effective diction in your next attempt and maybe you will sound like you know what you are discussing.
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]I'm beginning to wonder. With the relentless amount of threads Sihanouk makes on the same damn identicle topic, is he trying to convince others... or himself? You know, like how they say, "keep telling yourself that, one day you'll believe it".whocares4peace

Im thinking hes Ken Kutaragi.

Or at least a Sony marketing employee who gets paid per pro-Sony thread he makes.

All his threads really come across as a marketing pitch. You can almost hear the "but wait, there's more" and "order your PS3 now and receive 4 free Blu Ray movies" just on the cusp of his lips :lol:

And is he F'N serious about PS3 being "best web browsing experience"?? When did that become better than Firefox on a PC? :|

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[QUOTE="whocares4peace"]

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]I'm beginning to wonder. With the relentless amount of threads Sihanouk makes on the same damn identicle topic, is he trying to convince others... or himself? You know, like how they say, "keep telling yourself that, one day you'll believe it".AdobeArtist

Im thinking hes Ken Kutaragi.

Or at least a Sony marketing employee who gets paid per pro-Sony thread he makes.

All his threads really come across as a marketing pitch. You can almost hear the "but wait, there's more" and "order your PS3 now and receive 4 free Blu Ray movies" just on the cusp of his lips :lol:

His threads are obviously nothing more than well written 360 troll fests. How is he not banned? Does that mean I can blatantly bash certain posters and get away with it as long as it's well written? Not that I would as I love you all. :) Except for fankids. No luffs for them...
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As such, you are no longer a hardcore gamer this generation if you don't own the PS3. Microsoft is not really using its billions to push the boundaries of next-gen gaming. Instead, it digs its deep pockets to reduce the price of the 360. Why? Because, it knows it can't win on most of the categories listed above. Xbox 360 is simply less advanced than the PS3. That's why Microsoft is focusing on expanding its audience and fight for the casuals.

Sihanouk

You're not a hardcore gamer unless you own all systems. Real gamers don't take sides.

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[QUOTE="Sihanouk"]

As such, you are no longer a hardcore gamer this generation if you don't own the PS3. Microsoft is not really using its billions to push the boundaries of next-gen gaming. Instead, it digs its deep pockets to reduce the price of the 360. Why? Because, it knows it can't win on most of the categories listed above. Xbox 360 is simply less advanced than the PS3. That's why Microsoft is focusing on expanding its audience and fight for the casuals.

ejstrup

You're not a hardcore gamer unless you own all systems. Real gamers don't take sides.

Truest word's even written on SW.

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#16 flatline711
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[QUOTE="ejstrup"][QUOTE="Sihanouk"]

As such, you are no longer a hardcore gamer this generation if you don't own the PS3. Microsoft is not really using its billions to push the boundaries of next-gen gaming. Instead, it digs its deep pockets to reduce the price of the 360. Why? Because, it knows it can't win on most of the categories listed above. Xbox 360 is simply less advanced than the PS3. That's why Microsoft is focusing on expanding its audience and fight for the casuals.

Il_Exile_lI

You're not a hardcore gamer unless you own all systems. Real gamers don't take sides.

Truest word's even written on SW.

You must have missed Sihanouk's post :P
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#17 kingfire11
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Based on your logic, the PS3 has been in trouble since its own price cut.
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#18 kingfire11
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Conga TC, soon you'll be in my sig after mingo123 served me all these months.
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#19 ejstrup
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Conga TC, soon you'll be in my sig after mingo123 served me all these months.kingfire11

nice, which quote are you going for? :P

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#20 Bigboi500
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Umm don't forget three out of every four warlocks prefer the Sony brand.
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#21 kyacat
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once again the 360 not in trouble even with a price cut
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#22 kozzy1234
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lol, worst attempt at flaming a console that ive seen in ages.
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#23 sam280992
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You provided some laughs... I love you :)
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#24 metalgear-solid
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You know, it's so true. The Xbox 360 is losing badly. I mean, it's not necessarily a bad console, it's just not anywhere near as good as the PS3.
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Most photorealistic: Gran Turismo 5 Prologue.

Best animation: Uncharted, Metal Gear Solid 4. Soon, Killzone 2.

Best Sounds: Metal Gear Solid 4, which uses uncompressed audio, thanks to the huge space on the Blu-ray disk.

Biggest bosses: Resistance 2, not out yet, but hands-ons have confimed the existence of at least one 300 ft monster.

Biggest multiplayer shooters (that look good): Resistance. Soon, Resistance 2. Killzone 2 is expected to look good for both single and multiplayers.

Best merging of movies and games: Metal Gear Solid 4, Heavy Rain.

Most innovative, user-generated gameplay: Little Big Planet.

Most promising MMOs in development: MAG, The Agency, DC Universe, Free Realms

Most compelling 3D online social interaction: HOME

Best web-browsing: Youtube, Life with Playstation (maps, weather, Google News, etc.)

Most feature rich: Blu-ray

Most high-tech pet simulation: Eyepet

Most high-tech card-based gaming: Eye of Judgment

Sihanouk

LIST WARS

haha but you forgot these

Most bestest online service with live in the name: LIVE

Most promising game still in the head of a developer: Peter Molyneaux's dream last night

Most Hi-Tech use of bald space Marines : Gears of War 2

Most out spoken game developer: Denis Dyack

Best PR stunt: Peter Jacksons imaginary Halo game

Biggest Bosses: Reggie (That dude is a big guy)

I believe that puts the 360 in a tie for the lead.

But....

Best use of a Pinata: Viva Pinata

I think the 360 just came back on top. 8)

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[QUOTE="Sihanouk"]

Most photorealistic: Gran Turismo 5 Prologue.

Best animation: Uncharted, Metal Gear Solid 4. Soon, Killzone 2.

Best Sounds: Metal Gear Solid 4, which uses uncompressed audio, thanks to the huge space on the Blu-ray disk.

Biggest bosses: Resistance 2, not out yet, but hands-ons have confimed the existence of at least one 300 ft monster.

Biggest multiplayer shooters (that look good): Resistance. Soon, Resistance 2. Killzone 2 is expected to look good for both single and multiplayers.

Best merging of movies and games: Metal Gear Solid 4, Heavy Rain.

Most innovative, user-generated gameplay: Little Big Planet.

Most promising MMOs in development: MAG, The Agency, DC Universe, Free Realms

Most compelling 3D online social interaction: HOME

Best web-browsing: Youtube, Life with Playstation (maps, weather, Google News, etc.)

Most feature rich: Blu-ray

Most high-tech pet simulation: Eyepet

Most high-tech card-based gaming: Eye of Judgment

cakeorrdeath

LIST WARS

haha but you forgot these

Most bestest online service with live in the name: LIVE

Most promising game still in the head of a developer: Peter Molyneaux's dream last night

Most Hi-Tech use of bald space Marines : Gears of War 2

Most out spoken game developer: Denis Dyack

Best PR stunt: Peter Jacksons imaginary Halo game

Biggest Bosses: Reggie (That dude is a big guy)

I believe that puts the 360 in a tie for the lead.

But....

Best use of a Pinata: Viva Pinata

I think the 360 just came back on top. 8)

:lol: :lol:

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#27 juliusmysad
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This guy is clearly biased to the max. How can you prove that something is "best"? And the WTF is with Most high-tech card-based gaming:??? I can't even remember the last card-based game coming to a console in ages............

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whats ur deal man
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#29 kyacat
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You know, it's so true. The Xbox 360 is losing badly. I mean, it's not necessarily a bad console, it's just not anywhere near as good as the PS3.metalgear-solid
both ps3 and 360 are good console it's the fanboys who don't see it
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[QUOTE="Sihanouk"]

Most photorealistic: Gran Turismo 5 Prologue.

Best animation: Uncharted, Metal Gear Solid 4. Soon, Killzone 2.

Best Sounds: Metal Gear Solid 4, which uses uncompressed audio, thanks to the huge space on the Blu-ray disk.

Biggest bosses: Resistance 2, not out yet, but hands-ons have confimed the existence of at least one 300 ft monster.

Biggest multiplayer shooters (that look good): Resistance. Soon, Resistance 2. Killzone 2 is expected to look good for both single and multiplayers.

Best merging of movies and games: Metal Gear Solid 4, Heavy Rain.

Most innovative, user-generated gameplay: Little Big Planet.

Most promising MMOs in development: MAG, The Agency, DC Universe, Free Realms

Most compelling 3D online social interaction: HOME

Best web-browsing: Youtube, Life with Playstation (maps, weather, Google News, etc.)

Most feature rich: Blu-ray

Most high-tech pet simulation: Eyepet

Most high-tech card-based gaming: Eye of Judgment

cakeorrdeath

LIST WARS

haha but you forgot these

Most bestest online service with live in the name: LIVE

Most promising game still in the head of a developer: Peter Molyneaux's dream last night

Most Hi-Tech use of bald space Marines : Gears of War 2

Most out spoken game developer: Denis Dyack

Best PR stunt: Peter Jacksons imaginary Halo game

Biggest Bosses: Reggie (That dude is a big guy)

I believe that puts the 360 in a tie for the lead.

But....

Best use of a Pinata: Viva Pinata

I think the 360 just came back on top. 8)

:lol:

Oh lord..this thread, what a dreadful attempt.

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Why the trouble? Because the 360 is trying hard to fight two wars at once--the hardcore and the casuals--and it's losing them both. That's why, on Amazon, the best selling Xbox 360 SKU is rarely in the top 50 while the PS3 is consistently in the top 15. http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/videogame.

Let's see why the 360 can't win.

HARD CORE FIGHT: Winner PS3

Neither Xbox 360 or the Wii can now compete with the PS3 for hardcore gaming. 2005, 2006, and 2007 are long gone. In 2008, the biggest (Resistance 2) and most advanced games (Metal Gear Solid 4) are on the PS3. No matter how Microsoft and fanboys try to spin it, Xbox 360 is showing its age; it is no longer the console that pushes the boundaries in HD gaming. In fact, it's the PS3 that wins the following:

Most photorealistic: Gran Turismo 5 Prologue.

Best animation: Uncharted, Metal Gear Solid 4. Soon, Killzone 2.

Best Sounds: Metal Gear Solid 4, which uses uncompressed audio, thanks to the huge space on the Blu-ray disk.

Biggest bosses: Resistance 2, not out yet, but hands-ons have confimed the existence of at least one 300 ft monster.

Biggest multiplayer shooters (that look good): Resistance. Soon, Resistance 2. Killzone 2 is expected to look good for both single and multiplayers.

Best merging of movies and games: Metal Gear Solid 4, Heavy Rain.

Most innovative, user-generated gameplay: Little Big Planet.

Most promising MMOs in development: MAG, The Agency, DC Universe, Free Realms

Most compelling 3D online social interaction: HOME

Best web-browsing: Youtube, Life with Playstation (maps, weather, Google News, etc.)

Most feature rich: Blu-ray

Most high-tech pet simulation: Eyepet

Most high-tech card-based gaming: Eye of Judgment

As such, you are no longer a hardcore gamer this generation if you don't own the PS3. Microsoft is not really using its billions to push the boundaries of next-gen gaming. Instead, it digs its deep pockets to reduce the price of the 360. Why? Because, it knows it can't win on most of the categories listed above. Xbox 360 is simply less advanced than the PS3. That's why Microsoft is focusing on expanding its audience and fight for the casuals.

CASUAL FIGHT: Winner Wii

Sure, Xbox 360 is technechnically the cheapest console right now. If you count the most feature-less SKU, which is the Arcade bundle. On Amazon, at least, the Arcade bundle is far from being the most popular. In any case, the fight for casuals is way beyond the 360's ability.

Free-Online: PS3 > Wii > 360

Cheap games: Wii > 360> PS3

Most casual-oriented games: Wii > 360, PS3

Most casual friendly features: Wii (intuitive controls) > PS3, 360

Most useful non-gaming features: PS3 > Xbox 360 > Wii. Causals don't play games that much and thus they appreciate non-gaming features more.

Cheapest accessories: Wii > PS3 > Xbox 360

Worldwide brand name: PS3, Wii > Xbox 360

Ladies and fanboys, Xbox 360 is stuck between a rock and a hard place. It is stuck between the hard-core and the causals, neither of them seeing the 360 as the console of choice. Mark my words, price cuts and all, Xbox 360 will sell less than most gaming sites expected.

Sihanouk

A very nice and factfull thread.But a very dirty place to post it ! Most of the people here are fanboys and little ki&s.They will NEVER want to agree with you.

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Stopped after the first paragraph. :| Amazon does not represent the world.
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I see that you (TC) dont know what HARDCORE means thats for sure

Call me back when you finish Super Mario Bros in 5 minutes

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[QUOTE="Sihanouk"]

Why the trouble? Because the 360 is trying hard to fight two wars at once--the hardcore and the casuals--and it's losing them both. That's why, on Amazon, the best selling Xbox 360 SKU is rarely in the top 50 while the PS3 is consistently in the top 15. http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/videogame.

Let's see why the 360 can't win.

HARD CORE FIGHT: Winner PS3

Neither Xbox 360 or the Wii can now compete with the PS3 for hardcore gaming. 2005, 2006, and 2007 are long gone. In 2008, the biggest (Resistance 2) and most advanced games (Metal Gear Solid 4) are on the PS3. No matter how Microsoft and fanboys try to spin it, Xbox 360 is showing its age; it is no longer the console that pushes the boundaries in HD gaming. In fact, it's the PS3 that wins the following:

Most photorealistic: Gran Turismo 5 Prologue.

Best animation: Uncharted, Metal Gear Solid 4. Soon, Killzone 2.

Best Sounds: Metal Gear Solid 4, which uses uncompressed audio, thanks to the huge space on the Blu-ray disk.

Biggest bosses: Resistance 2, not out yet, but hands-ons have confimed the existence of at least one 300 ft monster.

Biggest multiplayer shooters (that look good): Resistance. Soon, Resistance 2. Killzone 2 is expected to look good for both single and multiplayers.

Best merging of movies and games: Metal Gear Solid 4, Heavy Rain.

Most innovative, user-generated gameplay: Little Big Planet.

Most promising MMOs in development: MAG, The Agency, DC Universe, Free Realms

Most compelling 3D online social interaction: HOME

Best web-browsing: Youtube, Life with Playstation (maps, weather, Google News, etc.)

Most feature rich: Blu-ray

Most high-tech pet simulation: Eyepet

Most high-tech card-based gaming: Eye of Judgment

As such, you are no longer a hardcore gamer this generation if you don't own the PS3. Microsoft is not really using its billions to push the boundaries of next-gen gaming. Instead, it digs its deep pockets to reduce the price of the 360. Why? Because, it knows it can't win on most of the categories listed above. Xbox 360 is simply less advanced than the PS3. That's why Microsoft is focusing on expanding its audience and fight for the casuals.

CASUAL FIGHT: Winner Wii

Sure, Xbox 360 is technechnically the cheapest console right now. If you count the most feature-less SKU, which is the Arcade bundle. On Amazon, at least, the Arcade bundle is far from being the most popular. In any case, the fight for casuals is way beyond the 360's ability.

Free-Online: PS3 > Wii > 360

Cheap games: Wii > 360> PS3

Most casual-oriented games: Wii > 360, PS3

Most casual friendly features: Wii (intuitive controls) > PS3, 360

Most useful non-gaming features: PS3 > Xbox 360 > Wii. Causals don't play games that much and thus they appreciate non-gaming features more.

Cheapest accessories: Wii > PS3 > Xbox 360

Worldwide brand name: PS3, Wii > Xbox 360

Ladies and fanboys, Xbox 360 is stuck between a rock and a hard place. It is stuck between the hard-core and the causals, neither of them seeing the 360 as the console of choice. Mark my words, price cuts and all, Xbox 360 will sell less than most gaming sites expected.

lesner87

A very nice and factfull thread.But a very dirty place to post it ! Most of the people here are fanboys and little ki&s.They will NEVER want to agree with you.

So anyone that disagrees is a fanboy? What are you the now the president of tC's fanclub? I think you are a bigger fanboy iof you agree with TC...

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You're not a hardcore gamer unless you own all systems. Real gamers don't take sides. ejstrup

QFT!

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#36 cakeorrdeath
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[QUOTE="ejstrup"]You're not a hardcore gamer unless you own all systems. Real gamers don't take sides. Lidve

QFT!

A gamer is anyone who plays games.

Hardcore means that you are intensely loyal and generally resistant to change. I say people who obssess over one platform match up with that well.

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#37 swamplord666
Member since 2007 • 1873 Posts
excellent! i finally found my sony fanboy! a new sig will come shorty with the system fanboy award :D
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#38 Burnsmiesta
Member since 2004 • 1672 Posts
Yet again he makes a thread and doesn't reply.

You know the funniest thing is to see the people that agree with him. These threads are never any different, the only people taking the bait now are the ones who agree with him.
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#39 Iceman2911
Member since 2006 • 2669 Posts

yeah the 360 is going to do bad this holiday season and gears is going to flop hard

jk

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#40 lesner87
Member since 2004 • 2441 Posts

So anyone that disagrees is a fanboy? What are you the now the president of tC's fanclub? I think you are a bigger fanboy iof you agree with TC...AlphaGamer469

Not my point buddy.This is system wars,even if proof comes in from one side and the other side has nothing to say..the fights will STILL never end.Has there been any topic YET in which Cows or lemmings or hermits shut themselves up and accept the defeat ? HELL NO ! So deal with it .....

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#41 killerfist
Member since 2005 • 20155 Posts

Best merging of movies and games: Metal Gear Solid 4

Sihanouk

I agree with this.

Most high-tech pet simulation: Eyepet

Most high-tech card-based gaming: Eye of Judgment

Sihanouk

But these two make me wonder....ARE YOU SERIES?

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#42 omgimba
Member since 2007 • 2645 Posts

Hardcore fight? There is no such thing for onsole manufacturers..

There is only the casual fight, where the winner is declared by the most money earned.. Thats all MS, Sony and Nintendo cares about.

(Its not like PS2 was most "hardcore" last gen, it won cause it had the most casual appeal)

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#43 dr_jashugan
Member since 2006 • 2665 Posts
Sihanouk,

You forgot ONE extremely important aspect of why the X360 is in trouble:


The RRoD Curse. 8)
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#44 SpruceCaboose
Member since 2005 • 24589 Posts

You just really hate the 360, don't you?

Every thread from you is predictable and ultimately fails. No one here takes anything you write seriously, as you are constantly and continually a cheerleader for Team Sony to the complete exclusion of anything remotely positive about the competition.

I know people love to throw around the conspiracy of paid posters as advertisers, and I don't really believe any of them, but man, that is exactly what you sound like every single time you create a thread.

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#45 -Ninja_Dog-
Member since 2005 • 4197 Posts

360>>PS3 imo.

Its a better overall experince.

I will be a PS3 owner at some point , but right now its just not not worth it.

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#46 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Sihanouk"]

Most photorealistic: Gran Turismo 5 Prologue.

Best animation: Uncharted, Metal Gear Solid 4. Soon, Killzone 2.

Best Sounds: Metal Gear Solid 4, which uses uncompressed audio, thanks to the huge space on the Blu-ray disk.

Biggest bosses: Resistance 2, not out yet, but hands-ons have confimed the existence of at least one 300 ft monster.

Biggest multiplayer shooters (that look good): Resistance. Soon, Resistance 2. Killzone 2 is expected to look good for both single and multiplayers.

Best merging of movies and games: Metal Gear Solid 4, Heavy Rain.

Most innovative, user-generated gameplay: Little Big Planet.

Most promising MMOs in development: MAG, The Agency, DC Universe, Free Realms

Most compelling 3D online social interaction: HOME

Best web-browsing: Youtube, Life with Playstation (maps, weather, Google News, etc.)

Most feature rich: Blu-ray

Most high-tech pet simulation: Eyepet

Most high-tech card-based gaming: Eye of Judgment

cakeorrdeath

LIST WARS

haha but you forgot these

Most bestest online service with live in the name: LIVE

Most promising game still in the head of a developer: Peter Molyneaux's dream last night

Most Hi-Tech use of bald space Marines : Gears of War 2

Most out spoken game developer: Denis Dyack

Best PR stunt: Peter Jacksons imaginary Halo game

Biggest Bosses: Reggie (That dude is a big guy)

I believe that puts the 360 in a tie for the lead.

But....

Best use of a Pinata: Viva Pinata

I think the 360 just came back on top. 8)

:lol::lol:

And the Mod of the Year award goes to... *ruffle* CAKEORRDEATH!!! :D

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#47 woobabooba
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Why the trouble? Because the 360 is trying hard to fight two wars at once--the hardcore and the casuals--and it's losing them both. That's why, on Amazon, the best selling Xbox 360 SKU is rarely in the top 50 while the PS3 is consistently in the top 15. http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/videogame.

Let's see why the 360 can't win.

HARD CORE FIGHT: Winner PS3

Neither Xbox 360 or the Wii can now compete with the PS3 for hardcore gaming. 2005, 2006, and 2007 are long gone. In 2008, the biggest (Resistance 2) and most advanced games (Metal Gear Solid 4) are on the PS3. No matter how Microsoft and fanboys try to spin it, Xbox 360 is showing its age; it is no longer the console that pushes the boundaries in HD gaming. In fact, it's the PS3 that wins the following:

Most photorealistic: Gran Turismo 5 Prologue.

Best animation: Uncharted, Metal Gear Solid 4. Soon, Killzone 2.

Best Sounds: Metal Gear Solid 4, which uses uncompressed audio, thanks to the huge space on the Blu-ray disk.

Biggest bosses: Resistance 2, not out yet, but hands-ons have confimed the existence of at least one 300 ft monster.

Biggest multiplayer shooters (that look good): Resistance. Soon, Resistance 2. Killzone 2 is expected to look good for both single and multiplayers.

Best merging of movies and games: Metal Gear Solid 4, Heavy Rain.

Most innovative, user-generated gameplay: Little Big Planet.

Most promising MMOs in development: MAG, The Agency, DC Universe, Free Realms

Most compelling 3D online social interaction: HOME

Best web-browsing: Youtube, Life with Playstation (maps, weather, Google News, etc.)

Most feature rich: Blu-ray

Most high-tech pet simulation: Eyepet

Most high-tech card-based gaming: Eye of Judgment

As such, you are no longer a hardcore gamer this generation if you don't own the PS3. Microsoft is not really using its billions to push the boundaries of next-gen gaming. Instead, it digs its deep pockets to reduce the price of the 360. Why? Because, it knows it can't win on most of the categories listed above. Xbox 360 is simply less advanced than the PS3. That's why Microsoft is focusing on expanding its audience and fight for the casuals.

CASUAL FIGHT: Winner Wii

Sure, Xbox 360 is technechnically the cheapest console right now. If you count the most feature-less SKU, which is the Arcade bundle. On Amazon, at least, the Arcade bundle is far from being the most popular. In any case, the fight for casuals is way beyond the 360's ability.

Free-Online: PS3 > Wii > 360

Cheap games: Wii > 360> PS3

Most casual-oriented games: Wii > 360, PS3

Most casual friendly features: Wii (intuitive controls) > PS3, 360

Most useful non-gaming features: PS3 > Xbox 360 > Wii. Causals don't play games that much and thus they appreciate non-gaming features more.

Cheapest accessories: Wii > PS3 > Xbox 360

Worldwide brand name: PS3, Wii > Xbox 360

Ladies and fanboys, Xbox 360 is stuck between a rock and a hard place. It is stuck between the hard-core and the causals, neither of them seeing the 360 as the console of choice. Mark my words, price cuts and all, Xbox 360 will sell less than most gaming sites expected.

Sihanouk

pc wins....consoles fail

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#48 flowdee79
Member since 2007 • 4483 Posts
Come on guys TC worked really hard on that first post.
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#49 sirk1264
Member since 2003 • 6242 Posts
[QUOTE="whocares4peace"]

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]I'm beginning to wonder. With the relentless amount of threads Sihanouk makes on the same damn identicle topic, is he trying to convince others... or himself? You know, like how they say, "keep telling yourself that, one day you'll believe it".AdobeArtist

Im thinking hes Ken Kutaragi.

Or at least a Sony marketing employee who gets paid per pro-Sony thread he makes.

All his threads really come across as a marketing pitch. You can almost hear the "but wait, there's more" and "order your PS3 now and receive 4 free Blu Ray movies" just on the cusp of his lips :lol:

And is he F'N serious about PS3 being "best web browsing experience"?? When did that become better than Firefox on a PC? :|

I love your sig.

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#50 AdobeArtist  Moderator
Member since 2006 • 25184 Posts

Come on guys TC worked really hard on that first post.flowdee79

Since when is effort involved in just recycling the same post over and over again. Just check this guys history, he uses the same theme each time. It's just laziness at its worst.\

Of course you could have just been sarcastic :P :P