Destiny players are calling out Bungie for its incompetence and constant lying

Took you long enough.

So you had "great fun" with the game for a whole year, enjoyed it enough to buy 2 DLC's, and I'm supposed to believe that Bungie still owes you.

Yep, no entitlement here.

Activision and Bungie's are gonna do what they do, who we should really be upset with is the gaming press who dropped the ball on holding their feet to the fire, TTK DLC was over price garbage that didn't do much for the game and that should be on them for reporting otherwise. Instead they told us the coast was clear. These petty nitpick on DLC like paying to level up to level 25 don't bug me as one can do that in a few hours easy. Money for ammo, again not a huge issue to me. There's more areas they dropped the ball like after lifting level cap they didn't scale House of Judgement difficulty rewards. I frankly hate the Taken as a race, we already had Hive and they were macabre enough already, and thry're everywhere now. I'd like missions that focus on Cabal or Fallen enemies or some mix like before, but presence of Taken I hate and they pop up everywhere.

I hate too how they still have content exclusively for pre-assembled fire teams without matchmaking options. This bugs the shit out of me. Plus I love co-op but feel they twist players arms to do PvP and I've no interest in competitive MP beyond just killing more than my teammates in co-op.

Admittedly I haven't touched it in months but I wouldn't take these criticisms as seriously since biggest complainers of microtransactions in a game don't actually play the games they bitch about. Destiny's problems are bigger than that and these stupid critcal interlopers are detracting from long needed discussion.

I feel bad for all the suckers who went out and supported Bungie, by purchasing all their DLCs.

@kingsfan_0333: if you can show where I said they owe me anything....I won't say you're just wanting to be a politically correct devils advocate with no real integrity.

Every shooter Sony touches whether it's exclusive deals or marketing rights, the game gets cursed and the games end up not being that good. See CoD and SWBF as recent examples. This PlayStation shooter curse followed the PS4 from PS3. Last good shooter was probably SoCom on the PS2 days.

Yeah, i've been reading a bunch of shit on their forums yesterday, fanboys of this game are finally waking up. Why did ya'll took you so long? The more shit they receive for Destiny, higher's the chance of not only getting a decent game out off of Destiny 2 but also (VERY important) we may actually see the sequel running on an engine that isn't plugged into a potato somewhere in Ukraine. Fallout 4's engine is an outdated shit but Destiny's engine, destiny engine is like GW2's engine, game killing for 2016 standards.

@foxhound_fox: True. I can only make it up with a simple seppuku.

@silversix_: FO4 engine is worse.

FO4 engine is still the Morrowind engine if I recall correctly. It's about fucking time to stop making minor enhancements and make or buy another one.

FO4 looks and plays like last gen....and if the next TES uses it....I won't be buying it.

Blaming Sony lmfaoo

I guess he has selective memory and blocks out the dead on arrival flop that was Titanfall.

how was it a dead on arrival flop?

No one plays it and it was hyped up to be the next big thing. M$ clearly expected it to be the next Halo/Gears/CoD4 type of success story yet it ended up being a glorified Brink.

Bungie sucks, a glorified one hit wonder getting exposed.

I don't see how that makes it a dead on arrival flop. It was well received by critics, and has a sequel coming for the 3 major platforms

Battlefront, Destiny, BLOPS3, Killzone. All shit. All were promoted as exclusives for sony.

Lol more Destiny hate.

You kids make more posts about Destiny than the players that actually enjoy the game. It's sad, really.

So what? Lots of shit games no one plays get sequels. It's easy for almost any FPS with a ton of marketing hype behind it to sell enough copies to profit. Keeping a community for more than a month is what almost no one knows how to do anymore.

...so it wasn't a dead on arrival flop after all

...except in this case finalstar is one of those people who would post about how much he enjoys the game

@finalstar2007:

Remove Bungie? The problem is clearly activision.

thousands of people still play titanfall.

Sure. Just like Killzone is some amazing success story because it got a few sequels right? Or Evolve because Take-Two said that is getting a sequel.

I didn't get farther than the title and I can already see this is just another predictable and sad Destiny hate train.

Like 2 or 3k lol.

I never said any of that. Just pointing out that it doesn't appear to be a dead on arrival flop

more like 5-10k

My point is that finalstar isn't someone who goes around just hating on destiny. I'm pretty sure he's put in hundreds of hours, and brags about that fact, so it's a bit more significant for him to be pissed about Destiny compared to the usual "lol Destiny DLC, emotes, etc"

yes, its ancient but it doesn't take a whole day to change a minor thing on the map. Dunno if you know this but Destiny's engine is an extreme pain in the ass to work with. FO4 may look fugly but its engine is flexible af, just look at all the things mods alone have implemented into the game.

@silversix_: I can deal with devs needing lots of time if the engine works to effect.

I mean, I'm not doing the work I'm playing so looks is more important to me in that regard.

Oh, so this isn't a predictable and sad Destiny hate train?

Oh, whoops, it is. Carry on, fellas.

yes you're playing. You're also not receive any other content than "nerfs" because they can't tweak shit on that engine. Even IF Bungievision wasn't as greedy as they're, they wouldn't be able to offer content like a "normal" game would. And since this is an mmo, no constant flow of content (free or not) is bad news.

Sure, they bitch about the game. But lets see if they can put their money where their mouth is, as in, not keep supporting bullshit business that's screwing their consumer base.

Ha ha so true. To think I bought the PS4 earlier because of this game but the beta turned me off big time.

@silversix_: they've given updates even with it not being an mmo. I fully believe they made it clear it wasn't an mmo.

It's just that the value of the major updates which were the DLC were fucking worth shit for what they charged.

If the FO engine was so great they should have been able to make the game look better and better animated.

they aren't fooling anyone with Destiny not being an mmo. They don't want the MMO's image, that's why they never admitted Destiny being an mmo. I never said fallout 4's engine is good lol. I said its better than the slow ass Destiny's engine. FO4 animations ARE THE worst in the gaming industry hands down.

@silversix_: maybe I'm not understanding you.

What do you mean by "slow"?

Insanely slow and clunky to develop content with. Have a read. http://kotaku.com/the-messy-true-story-behind-the-making-of-destiny-1737556731

It’s not uncommon for a game’s scope to reduce during development, but Bungie had a unique problem. People who worked on this projectsay that one of Bungie’s fundamental issues over the past few years has been the game’s engine, which the studio built from scratch alongside Destiny. Four sources pointed to Destiny’s technology—the tools they use to design levels, render graphics, and create content—as an inhibiting factor in the game’s development.

“Let’s say a designer wants to go in and move a resource node two inches,” said one person familiar with the engine. “They go into the editor. First they have to load their map overnight. It takes eight hours to input their map overnight. They get [into the office] in the morning. If their importer didn’t fail, they open the map. It takes about 20 minutes to open. They go in and they move that node two feet. And then they’d do a 15-20 minute compile. Just to do a half-second change.”

People who have worked with Destiny’s tech say the company is capable of powering incredible things behind the scenes, like player matchmaking. It’s also clear that Destiny is one of the best-looking video games ever made. But as a tool-set for designers, sources say, Destiny’s engine is subpar, and creating new maps and missions at Bungie can be grueling for developers.

Just let it die. Stop supporting garbage. It amazes me how people continue to play this game. The smart ones left over a year ago or didn't even buy it.

Bought Destiny for the first time recently with all dlc for around 35 bucks new.

Sofar so good, I've already gotten my money's worth.

@jg4xchamp: Oni, Myth, Halo...they are good. Its just that they are not as wise when it comes to MMO.

So in that sense, they could learn a few things from Blizzard.

Well duh. Destiny was a blatant cash-grab game designed around milking your wallet dry.

No offense to anyone who has enjoyed this game since it launched, but I can think of no worse example of gen 8 gaming than the shenanigans found in the Destiny franchise.

Oni sucks, and Myth was an aight RTS game that got a lot more love than it should have because it was a mac game, just like Marathon, had it been on PC, both would have been forgotten games because they would have been outclassed by the mid-late 90s FPS and RTS games the PC was getting.

Halo is their one hit.

If you can show me where I said that you said they owe you anything, I'll pretend to care about anything you've said up to this point.

Remove the developer? I'm not sure about that. They don't need to lose their jobs. But I would rather them go with a different publisher. I do find it funny that the severe lack of content, almost non-existent story, terribly repetitive zones, and monotonous objectives aren't what made people not want to play; instead it was messing with their KDs and a boring game mode.

Everyone blaming Activision when obviously Bungie is at fault

you do realize Call of Duty devs not only pack every single game with lots of content but they also have much, much better communication skills with the playrs than bungie

Just yesterday Bungie replied to everyone's complaints regarding the stupid matchmaking they decided to have and lie to everyone about saying that they will only change it for a single match mode for a week to gather data and MAYBEEE change it to other playlists too.. i mean if this reply dosent tell shitty dev team i dont what does

Bungie is the issue not activision

This, after playing many MMOs ... this game was dead on arrival ... pretty bland in all aspects.. even the fact that it was practically Halo gameplay couldn't save the tedium ....

But then, that sums up bungie to me... got lucky by making a slow paced moonwalking casual console shooter work on consoles for the first time to a ACCEPTABLE degree ..... 1 trick-ponies.