Deus Ex: Mankind Divided flops in sales, but it uses Denuvo. Seems like Piracy was always a non-issue.

attackofthefanboy.com/news/deus-ex-mankind-divided-fails-match-human-revolutions-opening-week-sales/

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news/square-enix-almost-ruined-deus-ex-mankind-divided-report-1453938

Same goes for most other Denuvo games, there appears to be no sales spike with using that DRM. In other words, no correlation with Piracy effecting sales afterall. Seems like PC Piracy was never the cause of any potential sales loss, as most intelligent people have already theorized.

Well, at least now it's a fact rather than theory.

So basically, if you make a meh single-player game and load it with DLC, Microstransactions, and shady "AUGMENT YOUR PRE-ORDER", your sales will suffer. Even if it is pirate proof.

I have not played it but I really have to. as someone who consider Deus Ex 1 as greatest of all time and HR as greatest of last gen. please dont tell me this is another invisible wars.

They'll still find some way to pass the blame onto something else other than the game being a disappointment.

It's not as bad as IW, but it's not as good as HR or DX. It ends abruptly, feels like half of a game set up for you to buy DLC later on.

Figures it would flop. It looked like rehash anyways. Just go play Human Revelation for cheap. Its not all that great, but its good.

It's not a rehash at all, just the last 30% falls flat and ends abruptly to sell DLC later on.

The devs fucking lied about the game big time. They said you could play it any way you want, like really, we mean it this time. Fucking liars.

Ehh...I found that part to be true. You can go full combat or stealth or mix, and guns or no guns (cool offensive augs). Most of the issues seem to be the game being built around dlc and microtrans , sadly including the "ending".

It looked like one. It looked identical to human revolution. When i was watching all the trailers, i didnt see nothing fresh.

Going Rambo is almost impossible because you are swarmed by enemies, and you die so fast even with the titan armor aug on, plus the robotic enemies etc.

This is still selling well on Steam and will continue to do so for the forseeable future.

It's way too early to call this a flop.

@superflyzero: Yeah, i couldnt rambo in Human Revolution. The game will punish you if you try. You have to pull them and kill them one by one hiding around corners etc.

Same here, you earn almost no xp for not ghosting everywhere.

You're doing it wrong.

I'm currently doing a full Balls to Walls Combat (Rambo is the wrong word he uses mostly stealth in the movie) mode and it's easy as all hell, even on the hardest difficulty. It's ridiculous actually.

You have to max out your heart, rhino, along with titan, and use the Nano-Blade or Tesla. They are better than any gun. Find a decent cover or choke point - tactics are still important. I actually just took out the entire city police just for laughs, just to see if I could. My HP never went under 50%.

@zaryia: I'll try that, then. But they promised you could play any way you want to succeed, but apparently not. :(

I might get it, but I just bought no man's sky and a videocard, which doesn't seem to be all that better than my xboxone to run deus ex (gtx 950), had to buy a new cpu fan as well.
Normally I play games on the console but since this game is so demanding on ultra settings I might wait till I got some better hardware.

Beside fifa 17 releases in a couple of weeks so deus ex can wait.

@superflyzero: I remember theyre is like 4 ways to play. Stealth, lethal, non-lethal, and something else, i forget. Can play guns, melee, hacking, or robo. Although you have to be careful cause upgrades can make the game easier.

The way I see how you can play these:

stealth -> lethal or non lethal

combat -> lethal or non lethal

ghost -> completely avoid all enemies.

All are easily accomplished in this.

A quick google search shows the new Deus Ex at #1 in the UK for its first week. And its currently #4 on Steam top sellers in America.

Its ranked #33 on Amazon USA top sellers for PS4. But that list includes consoles, gift cards and accessories. So I wouldn't call it a flop just yet. And with a rather high ranking on Steam top sellers, PC gamers are still buying the game.

@zaryia: Have you ever killed mission people? I killed one dude and his quest line disappeared from my game, was such a rewarding power. But i think he was the only dude i could find.

It's not a "meh single player game" at all... it's quite a good game actually & I urge people to play it.

But it is a shame that Square Enix has kind of stifled the hype for this game with it's rubbish, because as I said, it's a great game.

@hrt_rulz01: How many hours to beat the game?

Not sure exactly... but took me around 20-25 hours I think. But it'll vary depending on how much exploring you do.

graphics look horrible and you need titan pascals in sli to max it out....maybe if it looked amazing id understand but nah...

human revolution ..havnt tried the pc version but remember it being extremely underwhelming on wiiu.

@superflyzero: no they didn't. you can play it in many ways but you need to use your brain and augs because it's not a freaking shooter

Yeah, lure people to a door or find a vent or a roof were u can shoot from, and you pretty much have the whole level beat. Can't just go in middle of a room when doing full combat.

Well, I enjoyed it.

@zaryia: you can win a full combat if you're prepared, the best combination to win fights is focus mode+titan shield+nano blade+battle rifle+grenade launcher+icarus dash, you can win any fight using these.

@superflyzero: 20-35, it depends on your gameplay approach. if you explore all the areas, read emails/ebooks and do all the side quests without dying too much you can finish the game in 35 hours. the game has a new game plus mode and the replay value is high. breach mode is fun but it becomes grindy after 7 hours or so.

The game is awesome on PS4. Highly recommend it.

DeusEx not selling is fucking sad. Such an excellent game like holy shiz. For now, this is my 2nd fav game in 2016 and its above the rest by a long shot.

No it doesn't end abruptly.

It follows a proper three act structure, and ends the actual main plot thread of the game. The game is just shorter in its main plot than HR, but it has more side content and hub gameplay.

The plot falls flat, very anti-climactic. Feels like a mid-game arc.

But it isn't. It has a three act structure and actually, it was the first DX and Human Revolution that has the pacing issues.

Nevermind unlike in other Deus Ex games, past choices matter in the finale and that the hero can end the game failing to stop the villain's plans. The final mission has different ways things can go down.

You can't tell me how I felt, or change my opinion. A plot can be properly structured and fall flat and/or be anti-climactic.....

A majority of reviewers (professional and user) agree with me. Does that make my opinion a fact? No. But it makes it pretty much what a majority feel on MD's story.

Felt like something I would expect from the middle of any other great video game. After that final battle, I would expect to go after {Spoilers} and to find out who {Spoilers} is. Instead, they are saving the main course for the DLC.

I don't like beating a henchman/pawn as the main ending. It felt unfinished. This is a prime example of Anti-Climactic. I'm glad it got a low 82%, and even lower User Score.

What I'd like to know is why this took like 5 years to develop? The lip sync isn't even on par with the first fucking Mass Effect.

The reviewers have no grasp of story structure. They want a big bang plot and they did not get it.

Next, the ringleaders are in the first Deus Ex, sorry, but Jansen will not defeat them, that's JC's job. It seems reviewers missed this fact.

And here is the thing, Jansen's goal was to stop the Human Restoration Act, which he can succeed or not, and find the one behind the train bombing and the Dubai incident, which he does. That's what the plot is about.

Disagreed. I felt exactly what the reviewers felt. I did not read their articles until after I finished.

You can't possibly tell me a vast majority of critics, and myself, had our brains/emotions somehow be "wrong" on how the story left us. That we missed something. Nah, It was just anti-climactic. I mean, if it looks like a duck, talks like a duck....

It wasn't anti climatic, its just that the finale plays differently than most games and that once again, the hero can fail based on your actions.

The vast majority of critics want big bang moments and judge how the story is based on that. Sorry, but big bang moments alone doesn't make a good story.

The main plot arc was finished in the end, whether you like it or not.

And the first DLC is definitely a side story more than a continuation.

You haven't changed my opinion, or the scores which all pretty much agree. So I'm not sure why you're saying "but it wasn't".

I guess we'll leave it at that.

But the fact is that the main story arc was concluded, whether you like it or not.

I know I'm saying me, and most reviewers, understand it was concluded. It just felt like anti-climactic shit, made for DLC. That is how we felt, it is our opinion.

I'm 25 hours in and loving it. Doing everything I can (without looking anything up) first play through, second play through I'll see if I can kill everyone in the game.

@sailor232: That would be a fun play through, trying to kill everything you can.

How is it made for DLC?

The first DLC in fact has nothing to do with the loose ends Mankind Divided has, and a sequel would be more adept at addressing clear loose ends.

The fact is though, the plot itself is resolved in the final act and the chapter is closed. Its a complete story in this arc.

And it by far wasn't anti-climatic, it was just once again, a different style of final mission.

It's very unfortunate the direction they took. Adam Jensen is a very poor protagonist, but it seems they wanted their Solid Snake or Sam Fisher, while Icarus Effect was relegated to a mediocre mobile game that will probably never get it's episodic content.

Is anyone surprised? There was very little hype for this game, it got good but not great reviews and released the same day as Madden which is going to sell millions no matter what.

@NathanDrakeSwag: I was surprised, many love this game to death, and many sites were praising it.

Sad if his source was true.

Oh poor Sniper, Just wait and see how Mass Effect Andromeda owns your Mankind Divided in critical reception and sales next year XD.