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#1 kenakuma
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Pretty sure this is legal for system wars since I-phone plays games blah, blah, blah. Anyways just saw this article on IGN (Matt Casamassina none other)and thought I'd post it here:

"Monkey Island Dev: iPhone More Powerful than Wii

The maker of the Strong Band and Monkey Island WiiWare games says Apple's handheld outclasses Wii where horsepower is concerned.

by Matt Casamassina

July 29, 2009 - Uh-oh. Wii and iPhone fanboys, grab your pitchforks because a war is brewing on the official message boards of development studio Telltale Games, best known for its Strong Bad and Monkey Island WiiWare games. When a poster started a new thread to complain about the framerate in the Wii iteration of Tales of Monkey Island: Episode 1, a Telltale Games programmer going by the handle of Yare responded to defend the company's position. All well and good, but then he uttered what Wii fanboys everywhere like to call 'fighting words.'

After addressing the framerate complaint, Yare noted: "... The Wii is just not a powerful console. An iPhone is much more powerful than a Wii, even."

Later in the thread, when a poster accused the Telltale programmer of using 'strong words,' he replied: "And I stand by them. The Wii and DS are extremely underpowered and their popularity doesn't remove the hardware limitations."

This is not going to go over well for Wii owners who still don't believe the GameCube 1.5 specs IGN posted about Nintendo's console prior to its release. If you fall into that group, fret not -- we're sure the hidden potential just hasn't been unlocked yet. Someone flip the HD switch, please."

http://wii.ign.com/articles/100/1009002p1.html

Is he a complete idiot or is he on to something??? Please share your views!!!

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#2 G-O-M-J
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he cant be serious lol..
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#3 ActicEdge
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Instead of looking at specs or speculation. I think we should just look at which one has produced better looking games. That would basically settle which one can produce better graphics and tech. I think I know what the outcome will be.

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#4 danthegardner99
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until i see a game on the iphone that looks as good as red steel 2 i don't believe it

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#5 Thunderdrone
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Taking the OP's subject into consideration, and staying consistent with this developers IQ level, the only use i can think of for this thread is to post stupid wacky pics'n gifs.

I'l start...

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#6 1xcalibur1
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I think even my old Sega Mega Drive 2 is more powerful than the WII :P
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#7 G-O-M-J
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Instead of looking at specs or speculation. I think we should just look at which one has produced better looking games. That would basically settle which one can produce better graphics and tech. I think I know what the outcome will be.

ActicEdge
yeh, just look at resident evil on the iphone then compare it to the wii versions. the difference is massive lol..
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#8 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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What a twist!
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#9 HarlockJC
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It may the Iphone is newer tech than the Wii and each Iphone sells at a $200 loss where the Wii makes a profit.

Not really a big deal because in the end it's only the games that matter.

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#10 Cherokee_Jack
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Fail. Are they sure this clown is from Telltale?
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#11 Camer999
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It may the Iphone is newer tech than the Wii and each Iphone sells at a $200 loss where the Wii makes a profit.

Not really a big deal because in the end it's only the games that matter.

HarlockJC
I call BS on the 200$ loss.
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#12 Camer999
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Instead of looking at specs or speculation. I think we should just look at which one has produced better looking games. That would basically settle which one can produce better graphics and tech. I think I know what the outcome will be.

G-O-M-J

yeh, just look at resident evil on the iphone then compare it to the wii versions. the difference is massive lol..

The IPhone gets much less attention from devs than the wii, also he could be talking about the 3GS.

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#13 Commander-Gree
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I sort of doubt that, but I'd totally believe that it is more powerful than the PSP.
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#14 Guybrush_3
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I am calling BS on that. Maybe he is just a bad programmer.

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#15 thelastguy
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I am not a dev, so I guess we will have to wait for another dev to prove him wrong

or we could just compare games, and we all know who the winner is there

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#17 funsohng
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no matter how powerfull iPhone is, I am not buying another apple product.
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#18 SMR-Venom
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I am not a dev, so I guess we will have to wait for another dev to prove him wrong

or we could just compare games, and we all know who the winner is there

thelastguy
Iphone obviously.
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[QUOTE="Commander-Gree"]I sort of doubt that, but I'd totally believe that it is more powerful than the PSP. Guybrush_3

and the origional xbox

I have yet to see anything on the iPhone look better than Halo 2, but who knows....the tech could be there.

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#20 Dweedledude5000
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Wii is a weak system.. only has the power of a PS1 IF THAT.. im not surprised an Apple has more power than it
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#21 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

It may the Iphone is newer tech than the Wii and each Iphone sells at a $200 loss where the Wii makes a profit.

Not really a big deal because in the end it's only the games that matter.

Camer999

I call BS on the 200$ loss.

With a contract Iphones cost $199 or $299 without a contract Iphones cost $599/$699. When they sell though a contact At&t pays Apple the extra money to make up for the loss. Think about that without a contract you can buy a PS3 and an Arcade 360.

Edit: This is normal for cell phones most of them cell at a loss and make the money back through the contract.

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#22 Guybrush_3
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[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

[QUOTE="Commander-Gree"]I sort of doubt that, but I'd totally believe that it is more powerful than the PSP. Commander-Gree

and the origional xbox

I have yet to see anything on the iPhone look better than Halo 2, but who knows....the tech could be there.

I misread his post. I thought he was doubting that it was stronger than the PSP

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I've yet to see the Wii pass the original Xbox... so, I wouldn't be surprised if the iPhone 3Gs is more powerful.
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#24 Camer999
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I've yet to see the Wii pass the original Xbox... so, I wouldn't be surprised if the iPhone 3Gs is more powerful.Stevo_the_gamer

MH3?

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#25 kenakuma
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[QUOTE="Camer999"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

It may the Iphone is newer tech than the Wii and each Iphone sells at a $200 loss where the Wii makes a profit.

Not really a big deal because in the end it's only the games that matter.

HarlockJC

I call BS on the 200$ loss.

Without a contract Iphones cost $199 or $299 with out a contract Iphones cost $599/$699. When they sell though a contact At&t pays Apple the extra money to make up for the loss. Think about that without a contract you can buy a PS3 and an Arcade 360.

Not even! I just bought a brand new I-phone 3G for only $99 with contract!

Needless to say as a gaming platform its by far the worst I have ever own, but then again I'm not using it for gaming so its cool!

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#26 thelastguy
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[QUOTE="thelastguy"]

I am not a dev, so I guess we will have to wait for another dev to prove him wrong

or we could just compare games, and we all know who the winner is there

SMR-Venom

Iphone obviously.

:lol:

My sarcasm detector went off there :P

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:( No ones noticed my joke
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#28 Commander-Gree
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="Camer999"] I call BS on the 200$ loss.kenakuma

Without a contract Iphones cost $199 or $299 with out a contract Iphones cost $599/$699. When they sell though a contact At&t pays Apple the extra money to make up for the loss. Think about that without a contract you can buy a PS3 and an Arcade 360.

Not even! I just bought a brand new I-phone 3G for only $99 with contract!

Needless to say as a gaming platform its by far the worst I have ever own, but then again I'm not using it for gaming so its cool!

I think there was an error in his original post. It is much cheaper to buy a phone with a contract. An iPhone without a contract cost about $600.

EDIT: Nevermind. I see what you mean.

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#29 HarlockJC
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Not even! I just bought a brand new I-phone 3G for only $99 with contract!

Needless to say as a gaming platform its by far the worst I have ever own, but then again I'm not using it for gaming so its cool!

kenakuma

$199 cost from AT&T notice it says with 2 year contract

They don't show on their website what it cost with out one here the link

EDIT: Sorry I made an error in my last post. I will correct it

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#30 calvinx6
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What a twist!siLVURcross

Best Qoute so far.

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#31 kenakuma
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[QUOTE="kenakuma"]

Not even! I just bought a brand new I-phone 3G for only $99 with contract!

Needless to say as a gaming platform its by far the worst I have ever own, but then again I'm not using it for gaming so its cool!

HarlockJC

$199 cost from AT&T notice it says with 2 year contract

They don't show on their website what it cost with out one here the link

EDIT: Sorry I made an error in my last post. I will correct it

$199? Maybe for the 3GS but the 3G definetly goes for $99 with contract now!

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#32 HarlockJC
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$199? Maybe for the 3GS but the 3G definetly goes for $99 with contract now!

kenakuma

I think that deal is only until they sell out. Then they will not be carrying it any more

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#33 Commander-Gree
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[QUOTE="kenakuma"]

Not even! I just bought a brand new I-phone 3G for only $99 with contract!

Needless to say as a gaming platform its by far the worst I have ever own, but then again I'm not using it for gaming so its cool!

HarlockJC

$199 cost from AT&T notice it says with 2 year contract

They don't show on their website what it cost with out one here the link

EDIT: Sorry I made an error in my last post. I will correct it

The day the 3GS was announced the 3G's price was cut in half to $99. I remember because my brother had just bought one a week before that for $200. :lol:

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#34 Shinobishyguy
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I've yet to see the Wii pass the original Xbox... so, I wouldn't be surprised if the iPhone 3Gs is more powerful.Stevo_the_gamer

Not really.

re4 iphone

re4 wii edition

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#35 metroidfood
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What he says is true, just look at the pics of RE4 on the two platforms!

RE4 Wii:

RE4 Iphone:

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#36 cutmaclass1
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It's incredibly sad that the Wii is more comparable to a phone than to the other game consoles.
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#37 bc1391
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RE4 says otherwise.....

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#38 waffle57
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What he says is true, just look at the pics of RE4 on the two platforms!

RE4 Wii:

RE4 Iphone:

metroidfood

I see wut u did thar.

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#39 HarlockJC
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Is there anything Capcom will not put RE4 on. I am amazed it's not my daughter's vtech yet
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#40 Yunask
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Wii is a weak system.. only has the power of a PS1 IF THAT.. im not surprised an Apple has more power than itDweedledude5000

there is absolutely no way you typed that out in seriousness.

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#41 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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Okay, well... No one really cares for the games on the iPhone, I reckon, and it's not even something I would call a gaming platform, plus it has crap controls, so it doesn't really matter.
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#42 Wanderer5
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I sort of doubt that, but I'd totally believe that it is more powerful than the PSP. Commander-Gree

I really doubt that. I haven't seen a iphone game that looks better than PSP games like Dissidia: FF, Birth By Sleep, Resistance, and many more.

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#43 DarthBilf
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That sounds impossible. It seems like it's just a dev making excuses for an imperfect game on the Wii.
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#44 nintendoboy16
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:lol: Really, what is this guy saying? :lol:
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#45 Wanderer5
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Such BS.Sounds like he just desperate of finding a excuse.

And isn't Tales of Monkey Island a Wiiware game? Maybe the game is a bit too much for Wiiware, and that why it has framerate problems. I am sure that if they released all the 5 Episodes together in a retail box for the Wii, the game wouldn't have as much problems and can look cleaner.

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#46 Im_single
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The Wii is nowhere near as powerful as a 360, or a PS3 but Iphone? Ha ha ha, this dev is on drugs, the Iphone has surely passed most peoples expectations as far as hardware goes but it is nowhere near Wii level graphics.
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#47 loco145
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Then why the iPhone games look worse than the PSPs?
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#48 kenakuma
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Whats even more questionable is how this made it into the daily news section over at IGN for the wii?!

I mean GS sometimes has nonsense news stories sometimes, but this? C'mon IGN!

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Wii is a weak system.. only has the power of a PS1 IF THAT.. im not surprised an Apple has more power than itDweedledude5000
lol... Why even bother posting. The PS1 was a 32bit console.. I think, that the wii is capable of more then 32bit graphics?
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Wii is a weak system.. only has the power of a PS1 IF THAT.. im not surprised an Apple has more power than itDweedledude5000

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