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#51 Camer999
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He is probably talking about the , 3GS NOT the 3G, also the iphone has never had any devs work on it multiple times/seriously enough to sqeeze the juice out of it.

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#52 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]I've yet to see the Wii pass the original Xbox... so, I wouldn't be surprised if the iPhone 3Gs is more powerful.Shinobishyguy

Not really.

re4 iphone

re4 wii edition

Ew. That's just plain ugly -- though the game looks horrendous to begin with.

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#53 AmayaPapaya
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Wow...Why is it people alwase says the Wii is less powerful than this, or that...what ever. It's the third most powerful console/thing out there! Well...The Wii and X box graphics are debatable i guess. I think the Wiis graphics are better.

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#54 svetzenlether
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Wii is a weak system.. only has the power of a PS1 IF THAT.. im not surprised an Apple has more power than itDweedledude5000

I like the sarcasm, there...post of the day, maybe?

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#55 loco145
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The IPhone is a beast, just look at what Carmak could achieve! (On rails)

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#56 ViewtifulScott
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*Looks at RE4 Wii Edition*

*Looks at RE4 Iphone*

Uh... no.

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#57 metroidfood
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The IPhone is a beast, just look at what Carmak could achieve! (On rails)

loco145

Yeah, I think the iPhone has a long way to go before it even passes the PSP, much less the Wii.

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#58 enygma500
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I sort of doubt that, but I'd totally believe that it is more powerful than the PSP. Commander-Gree
the i-phone? PSP is near PS2 spec and isn't far off the Wii. In fact I find some PSP games to have FAR better graphics then anything I've seen on Wii so far. That could be due to the small screen though.

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#59 darth-pyschosis
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well the iPhone has a 533Mhz CPU, and 128MB system RAM. (But Apple underclocks the games to aroudn 200Mhz so, yea)

So, yes in some aspects it is.

i mean, my Palm has half as much system RAM as the PS3.

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#60 kenakuma
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I've played around with the I-phone in a gaming sense quite a bite and I have to say its control scheme is VERY crippling the majority of the time :(

As such I just can't take it seriously as a "gaming" platform.

Controls are very important!

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#61 mdisen2
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I feel sorry for anyone who believes this, especially a game developer. Just look at Resident Evil 4. :roll:

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#62 789shadow
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On Mars, perhaps.

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#63 Guybrush_3
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The IPhone is a beast, just look at what Carmak could achieve! (On rails)

loco145

Well if that is what Carmak's work looks like then you know the first is full of crap and is just a *****y programer looking for an excuse to cover for his shoddy work.

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#64 VendettaRed07
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is he talking about the iphone sg? because i heard that they made the graphics card like alot better in that, i still doubt its more powerful than the wii, but do we know what its specs are because i dont think there are any games that have been made specifically for that yet

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#65 caryslan2
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Somehow, I doubt the Iphone can even match the PS2 in power. There's no way in hell it outclasses the Wii which has more power than the PS2, Xbox and Gamecube.

And yes, its been proven that the Wii is more powerful than the Gamecube, so its not astretchto say that it outclasses theoriginalXbox. What dilutes the argument is that alot of crappy looking games have found their way onto the Wii. If you want proof of the Wii's power, one simply needs to compare Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Brothers Brawl, Metorid Prime 3, or Twilight Princess.

Honestly, I'll bet the best-looking games on the PS2, Gamecube, and Xbox easily outclass anything on the iPhone.

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#66 Dweedledude5000
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the joke was " im not surprised the Wii is not more powerful than an Apple(Nudgenudge) "

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#67 nintendog66
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Uhm... no...lol.

Apple fanboys are getting desperate.

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#68 HarlockJC
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well the iPhone has a 533Mhz CPU, and 128MB system RAM. (But Apple underclocks the games to aroudn 200Mhz so, yea)

So, yes in some aspects it is.

i mean, my Palm has half as much system RAM as the PS3.

darth-pyschosis
There is nothing wrong if it is. It's much newer tech that without a contract costs more than twice the amount has a Wii.
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#69 Bentham
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This is hilarious. I bet this developer posts on System Wars, too.
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#70 asyrian758
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The ipod touch/iphone is more powerful than the DS, but definetly not the Wii. I got all 3 and graphically it goes wii>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ipod touch>>>DS

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#71 ASK_Story
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He's a programmer. He knows his stuff. You can't argue with that.
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#72 Syferonik
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LOL this is awesome but we already know that Wii is a gamecube with motion controls and overpriced by 200$
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#73 AdrianWerner
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I think it's very likely that Iphone 3GS is quite a lot more powerful than Wii specs-wise, it's just that it's built and driven by OS in such way that it's impossible to code close to the hardware like with consoles, simply put a lot of that power goes to waste

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#74 Jekken6
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The Wii is a very weak sysstem, but it's still stronger than the iphone.

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#75 Gxgear
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Telltale Games?

What have they done that's been pushing the envelope on hardware lately?

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#76 painguy1
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ACTUAL HARDWARE COMPARISON

The only reason he siad that was in terms of the CPU. the wii is 729mhz while the iphone is at 600mhz. But in reality there are extra factors in a CPU that add to its speed so the wiis speed is roughly around 876mhz to 1ghz, and the iphone is 600mhz to 780mhz (iphone has less increase because of lack of cooling).

Iphone uses a underclocked "PowerVR MBX 3d Graphics Accelerator" which was what was in the dreamcast. Apparently fanboys have resorted to comparing a Dreamcast to the Wii. The wii has a graphic card equivelent to the ATI Radeon X300 pro underclocked by 95mhz.

The iphone specs are way behind the wii so this dev is just an idiot. If he can produce a game better looking than Super Mario Galaxy then he is right. The problem is that the iphone cant even render bumpmaps (aswell as a butt load of other effects) so its impossible. The iphone is only graphically superior than the DS (even the games arent as good), and only the proccessor is better than the PSP. The GPU is not. the GPU of the psp is 1.4 times stronger than the iphone.

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#77 Renzokucant
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LOL i bet it is! Wii's a joke!

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#78 kenakuma
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ACTUAL HARDWARE COMPARISON

The only reason he siad that was in terms of the CPU. the wii is 729mhz while the iphone is at 600mhz. But in reality there are extra factors in a CPU that add to its speed so the wiis speed is roughly around 876mhz to 1ghz, and the iphone is 600mhz to 780mhz (iphone has less increase because of lack of cooling).

Iphone uses a underclocked "PowerVR MBX 3d Graphics Accelerator" which was what was in the dreamcast. Apparently fanboys have resorted to comparing a Dreamcast to the Wii. The wii has a graphic card equivelent to the ATI Radeon X300 pro underclocked by 95mhz.

The iphone specs are way behind the wii so this dev is just an idiot. If he can produce a game better looking than Super Mario Galaxy then he is right. The problem is that the iphone cant even render bumpmaps (aswell as a butt load of other effects) so its impossible. The iphone is only graphically superior than the DS (even the games arent as good), and only the proccessor is better than the PSP. The GPU is not. the GPU of the psp is 1.4 times stronger than the iphone.

painguy1

Nice data! By the way, are those I-phone 3G or 3GS specs?

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#79 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Uhm... no...lol.

Apple fanboys are getting desperate.

nintendog66

That's not the Wii version. :|

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#80 PandaBear86
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iPhone 3GS is more powerful than the Wii.
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#81 bf2nutta
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[QUOTE="nintendog66"]

Uhm... no...lol.

Apple fanboys are getting desperate.

Stevo_the_gamer

That's not the Wii version. :|

maybe not but just screenshots on IGN or Gamespot and you would see its still far better the iPhone's version

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#82 anshul89
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Uhm... no...lol.

Apple fanboys are getting desperate.

nintendog66

Oh the irony :lol:

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#83 manicfoot
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Completely disagree. On the actual article the guy was complaining about the 40mb limit on Wiiware. He said that's why the textures look horrible on their games because they have to get compressed. Its strange how 2D Boy (World of Goo) never complained about it. Does the iPhone have any size limit on its games? I know very little about it.

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#84 ForceFreeze
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That so called game 'developer' is obviously trying to get attention....

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#85 CoralMark
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I'm unaware of it ... but do they provide the same pixel-count for images?

I'd guess there's a lot more pixels generated by the Wii ... and most often [in photography], the smaller screen - even with fewer pixels - LOOKS crisper. That said, I bet there's more actual data/pixels generated by the Wii.

If I watch a video on my PC [that's been compressed], it looks grainy and blotchy on my PC. Put the same video on my iPod ... looks crisp and sharp. That doesn't mean the iPod is displaying more data or it's truly crisper - it just means different screens/sizes play tricks on the eye.

JMO.

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#86 masterman280
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lol that is a lie

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#87 Rocky32189
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I'll believe it when I see a game that looks better than Super Mario Galaxy on the iPhone.
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#88 Brownesque
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Look at the specs on the iPhone. I'm not entirely clear but it looks like it maxes out at a 600 Mhz CPU with more memory than the Wii. The Wii has a 700 Mhz CPU. I can't exactly compare their GPU specs, presumably they both suck. They're definitely comparable. Like both "game systems" being current-gen hardware, that caliber of being comparable, very close.
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#89 bobbetybob
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until i see a game on the iphone that looks as good as red steel 2 i don't believe it

danthegardner99
I haven't even seen a game that looks as good as Red Steel 1...
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#90 skektek
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he cant be serious lol..G-O-M-J

Have you played the Wii?

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#91 haziqonfire
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Super Mario Galaxy. That is all.
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#92 froidnite
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Everyone saying the guy who said that is an idiot needs to understand that just because iphone is more powerful than Wii, doesn't necessarily mean better looking games on the iphone. iphone needs to run a lot of other applications in the background to make sure the phone part is functioning which all take up resources.

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#93 SecretPolice
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I'm :shock:

iPhone .... uWii :P

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#94 loco145
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They're definitely comparable. Like both "game systems" being current-gen hardware, that caliber of being comparable, very close.Brownesque
All the iPhone games so far look closer to the N64 than the PSP. Let alone the wii.

Just look at what the Tech Guru Carmak was able to achieve on the iPhone:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U53wYKApgPk

Resistance: Retribution looks generations ahead, let alone MP3 or The Conduit.

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#95 Shinobishyguy
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He's a programmer. He knows his stuff. You can't argue with that.ASK_Story
untill we see games that prove that the iphone is stronger than the wii we can argue with that. As of right now I have yet to see an iphone game surpass GC games..let alone mario galaxy
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#96 789shadow
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LOL this is awesome but we already know that Wii is a gamecube with motion controls and overpriced by 200$Syferonik

Really? I thought that was just a delusion of yours.

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#97 aero250
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Im not surprised.
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#98 DaBrainz
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Did he seriously just cite a videogame forumas an information source? Journalists really need to grow some hair on their peaches and do a little more front work.

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#99 aero250
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[QUOTE="Syferonik"]LOL this is awesome but we already know that Wii is a gamecube with motion controls and overpriced by 200$789shadow

Really? I thought that was just a delusion of yours.

Syferonik has a point.
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#100 BuryMe
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:lol: please tell me that article was a joke. No game on the iPhhone looks anywhere near as good as SMG. There's no way it culd keep up with a game like SSBB. I can produce nice graphics, but it's nowhere near the same