He is probably talking about the , 3GS NOT the 3G, also the iphone has never had any devs work on it multiple times/seriously enough to sqeeze the juice out of it.
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]I've yet to see the Wii pass the original Xbox... so, I wouldn't be surprised if the iPhone 3Gs is more powerful.Shinobishyguy
Not really.
re4 iphone
re4 wii edition
Ew. That's just plain ugly -- though the game looks horrendous to begin with.
Wow...Why is it people alwase says the Wii is less powerful than this, or that...what ever. It's the third most powerful console/thing out there! Well...The Wii and X box graphics are debatable i guess. I think the Wiis graphics are better.
Wii is a weak system.. only has the power of a PS1 IF THAT.. im not surprised an Apple has more power than itDweedledude5000
I like the sarcasm, there...post of the day, maybe?
The IPhone is a beast, just look at what Carmak could achieve! (On rails)
loco145
Yeah, I think the iPhone has a long way to go before it even passes the PSP, much less the Wii.
I sort of doubt that, but I'd totally believe that it is more powerful than the PSP. Commander-Greethe i-phone? PSP is near PS2 spec and isn't far off the Wii. In fact I find some PSP games to have FAR better graphics then anything I've seen on Wii so far. That could be due to the small screen though.
well the iPhone has a 533Mhz CPU, and 128MB system RAM. (But Apple underclocks the games to aroudn 200Mhz so, yea)
So, yes in some aspects it is.
i mean, my Palm has half as much system RAM as the PS3.
The IPhone is a beast, just look at what Carmak could achieve! (On rails)
loco145
Well if that is what Carmak's work looks like then you know the first is full of crap and is just a *****y programer looking for an excuse to cover for his shoddy work.
is he talking about the iphone sg? because i heard that they made the graphics card like alot better in that, i still doubt its more powerful than the wii, but do we know what its specs are because i dont think there are any games that have been made specifically for that yet
Somehow, I doubt the Iphone can even match the PS2 in power. There's no way in hell it outclasses the Wii which has more power than the PS2, Xbox and Gamecube.
And yes, its been proven that the Wii is more powerful than the Gamecube, so its not astretchto say that it outclasses theoriginalXbox. What dilutes the argument is that alot of crappy looking games have found their way onto the Wii. If you want proof of the Wii's power, one simply needs to compare Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Brothers Brawl, Metorid Prime 3, or Twilight Princess.
Honestly, I'll bet the best-looking games on the PS2, Gamecube, and Xbox easily outclass anything on the iPhone.
There is nothing wrong if it is. It's much newer tech that without a contract costs more than twice the amount has a Wii.well the iPhone has a 533Mhz CPU, and 128MB system RAM. (But Apple underclocks the games to aroudn 200Mhz so, yea)
So, yes in some aspects it is.
i mean, my Palm has half as much system RAM as the PS3.
darth-pyschosis
The ipod touch/iphone is more powerful than the DS, but definetly not the Wii. I got all 3 and graphically it goes wii>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ipod touch>>>DS
I think it's very likely that Iphone 3GS is quite a lot more powerful than Wii specs-wise, it's just that it's built and driven by OS in such way that it's impossible to code close to the hardware like with consoles, simply put a lot of that power goes to waste
ACTUAL HARDWARE COMPARISON
The only reason he siad that was in terms of the CPU. the wii is 729mhz while the iphone is at 600mhz. But in reality there are extra factors in a CPU that add to its speed so the wiis speed is roughly around 876mhz to 1ghz, and the iphone is 600mhz to 780mhz (iphone has less increase because of lack of cooling).
Iphone uses a underclocked "PowerVR MBX 3d Graphics Accelerator" which was what was in the dreamcast. Apparently fanboys have resorted to comparing a Dreamcast to the Wii. The wii has a graphic card equivelent to the ATI Radeon X300 pro underclocked by 95mhz.
The iphone specs are way behind the wii so this dev is just an idiot. If he can produce a game better looking than Super Mario Galaxy then he is right. The problem is that the iphone cant even render bumpmaps (aswell as a butt load of other effects) so its impossible. The iphone is only graphically superior than the DS (even the games arent as good), and only the proccessor is better than the PSP. The GPU is not. the GPU of the psp is 1.4 times stronger than the iphone.
ACTUAL HARDWARE COMPARISON
The only reason he siad that was in terms of the CPU. the wii is 729mhz while the iphone is at 600mhz. But in reality there are extra factors in a CPU that add to its speed so the wiis speed is roughly around 876mhz to 1ghz, and the iphone is 600mhz to 780mhz (iphone has less increase because of lack of cooling).
Iphone uses a underclocked "PowerVR MBX 3d Graphics Accelerator" which was what was in the dreamcast. Apparently fanboys have resorted to comparing a Dreamcast to the Wii. The wii has a graphic card equivelent to the ATI Radeon X300 pro underclocked by 95mhz.
The iphone specs are way behind the wii so this dev is just an idiot. If he can produce a game better looking than Super Mario Galaxy then he is right. The problem is that the iphone cant even render bumpmaps (aswell as a butt load of other effects) so its impossible. The iphone is only graphically superior than the DS (even the games arent as good), and only the proccessor is better than the PSP. The GPU is not. the GPU of the psp is 1.4 times stronger than the iphone.
painguy1
Nice data! By the way, are those I-phone 3G or 3GS specs?
Completely disagree. On the actual article the guy was complaining about the 40mb limit on Wiiware. He said that's why the textures look horrible on their games because they have to get compressed. Its strange how 2D Boy (World of Goo) never complained about it. Does the iPhone have any size limit on its games? I know very little about it.
I'm unaware of it ... but do they provide the same pixel-count for images?
I'd guess there's a lot more pixels generated by the Wii ... and most often [in photography], the smaller screen - even with fewer pixels - LOOKS crisper. That said, I bet there's more actual data/pixels generated by the Wii.
If I watch a video on my PC [that's been compressed], it looks grainy and blotchy on my PC. Put the same video on my iPod ... looks crisp and sharp. That doesn't mean the iPod is displaying more data or it's truly crisper - it just means different screens/sizes play tricks on the eye.
JMO.
I haven't even seen a game that looks as good as Red Steel 1...until i see a game on the iphone that looks as good as red steel 2 i don't believe it
danthegardner99
Everyone saying the guy who said that is an idiot needs to understand that just because iphone is more powerful than Wii, doesn't necessarily mean better looking games on the iphone. iphone needs to run a lot of other applications in the background to make sure the phone part is functioning which all take up resources.
They're definitely comparable. Like both "game systems" being current-gen hardware, that caliber of being comparable, very close.BrownesqueAll the iPhone games so far look closer to the N64 than the PSP. Let alone the wii.
Just look at what the Tech Guru Carmak was able to achieve on the iPhone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U53wYKApgPk
Resistance: Retribution looks generations ahead, let alone MP3 or The Conduit.
He's a programmer. He knows his stuff. You can't argue with that.ASK_Storyuntill we see games that prove that the iphone is stronger than the wii we can argue with that. As of right now I have yet to see an iphone game surpass GC games..let alone mario galaxy
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