DF: Dirt 5 PS5 vs Xbox Series X/ Series S Comparison

• SDR on PS% has crushed blacks making it look darker but looks normal in HDR during capture
• Image quality mode gets higher shadow quality, AO, and better asstes
• All versions use dynamic resolution
• PS5 and Series X scale between 1440p and 4K. Series S tops at 1440p bu is mostly in sub 1080p-1080p range
• PS5 in image quality mode gets better texture filtering
• PS5 resolution is higher during race intros
• High resolution mode pushes resolution so it sticks closer to 4K but it stays the same on Series S
• It was hard to test but DF determined that 120Hz mode scales between 900p and 1440p on X and PS5
• Series S scales down to 600p
• PS5 uses the same settings from resolution mode in 120Hz mode but Series S/X use a lower quality setting
• Grass, Car LODs, road tesselation, texture filtering, and overall geometry are worse on Xbox than PS5 in 120hz mode
• DF thinks this might be a bug.
• IQ mode shows X and PS5 hitting 60FPS with PS5 having a negligible lead when drops occur at the start of races.
• Series S is slower but not by much. VRR will fix it.
• All consoles hit 60 consistently in resolution mode
• PS5 maintains 120 except for the first track in the game where it can tank.
• PS5 also uses adaptive sync which causes tearing in 120 and can produce judder
• Series X sticks to 120hz and does not produce judder. VRR fixes any dips
• Series S is the worst but not too bad.

XSX secret weapon is potato mode at 120 FPS.

But PS5 wins again.

About the video, the game translates really bad on YouTube, I'm afraid it will hurt game sales. And poor John, visibly stressed by all the work.

I'd prefer Watch Dogs: Legion comparison as its using raytracing stuff. And Dirt 5 isn't really a showcase and only uses 120fps on next-gen consoles. Not enough to impress me.

@BenjaminBanklin: lol that looks terrible,I hope that's a bug, because that looks like they copied and pasted the series S settings on the X , bumped the resolution and call it a day.

This is getting pretty bizarre. New hypothesis: by the time devs wrap their heads around the apparent rubics cube that is XSX development, Sony will release the PS5 Pro they are scrambling to come up with behind the scenes right now. At which point the PS5 will drop to $300 and it will be "fine" that it is finally clearly the weaker system compared to the XSX because now it's the "budget" PS option

@Zero_epyon: 120Hz mode is 900 - 1440p.

Also for the Sony fans freaking out about XSX 120Hz mode on Devil May Cry 5... It has been fixed according to DF.

XSX is a stronger console, its just that the developers are rushing these games out or a having a horrible time developing games during Covid/lockdown.

It's running in a lower LOD all around. Honestly though, there's no reason they shouldn't at least have similar image quality even if the performance wasn't the same. Codemasters needs to work on that. The PC version isn't up to snuff either from what I hear.

On Series X/PS5?

Also what are the results of that patch for DMC?

Higher clocked CU's seem to be working better for more than one game.

Yes. They said 900-1440p in 120Hz mode.

They also said the 120Hz mode on the XSX was fixed, I assume they are talking about the random performance drops that the PS5 version didn't have in DMC.

Did you not watch the video you posted?

Nope, Again watch the video DF said in DMC it was a bug but people didn't listen and low and behold it was and its now fixed... Same as this game and 120Hz mode.

The other game being DMC?... The 120Hz mode was fixed DF said so in this video.

The issues games are having is due to development time and amount of consoles and modes... Before we had one mode one game for 2 consoles, now we have 3 consoles 3 different modes for each consoles + PC. The developers are working overtime to get these games shipped in working order.

@Grey_Eyed_Elf: I’m pretty sure they said 120hz series x and PS5 was between 1080p and 1440p and 600-900p on series s. I guess I’ll have to watch again.

Yes they said they patched it but I don’t think they meant they fixed the drops in the areas that the PS5 did better. They likely patched the fact that no matter what mode you’re in, it was trying to run the game at 120hz which caused some issues on certain TVs.

another serious x win

thanks to that VRR not found in the tearing ps5

• 9:20 mark "it seems to be some where in between 900p and 1440p on average"
• And yes your right the bug that was fixed was PS5 120Hz mode.

He said Xbox series S drops as low as 586p in 120hrz mode......yikes. I feel bad for anyone that got duped into buying that pos console.

OMG, the xbsex looks fugly, but my gawd does the s series look like its from 2 gens back.

Xbox was a mistake

Got it. I edited the summary.

PS5 kicking ass as always

I think Xbox Series games will start to improve by next years releases. As far as I'm concerned, like every gen, these are just launch titles, so I'm not phased at all by the poor performance.

Just because development is less complicated, these consoles are not an on/off switch between minimum and maximum performance, so it will take time at the beggining to get the best out of the consoles.

Do I think the Xbox Series X is better than the PS5, no, but that's not my point and I don't really care about that.

Don't expect a price drop for a long time. I think If MS thought they could drop the price, they would have never released the Series S or designed it for that price point. For the hardware budget/cost, I think Sony and MS are pretty much squeezing the very most you can get out of all these consoles.

Devs were giving the heads up months ago that Series S was gonna be trash. They got shouted down, per usual. It's even worse than what they projected.

Also, this gave me a good laugh on n4g.

900p-1440p X/PS5

Sub-HD in 2020 S

@BenjaminBanklin said:

@general_solo76 said:

He said Xbox series S drops as low as 586p in 120hrz mode......yikes. I feel bad for anyone that got duped into buying that pos console.

Devs were giving the heads up months ago that Series S was gonna be trash. They got shouted down, per usual. It's even worse than what they projected.

Also, this gave me a good laugh on n4g.

Dude lol

DAMN that Zen 3 PS5 CPU holds at 60 FPS while having higher resolution, better AA and better graphics overall. Mark Cerny is a genius.

@Tessellation

@RR360DD

Where are you? Come defend your weaksauce console.

@HalcyonScarlet: honestly, I'm confused about your comment and how it is responding to mine.

@HalcyonScarlet: Series X will probably end up the gen on top, but then again, it will be a minimal advantage. No one will notice it, just like no one notices current PS5's advantage without the help of digital foundry.

The problem with fanboys is that they always expect a massive difference out from slightly better hardware. It happened in 7th gen and is happening again....and is always hilarious from the perspective of coherent people lol

@PAL360: I expect the XSX to preform on average 400% above the PS5.

Why do you think SXS will beat the PS5? The PS5 has custom hardware that let it hit its theoretical power a lot better than XSX off-the-shelf parts. PS5 has infinity cache like on the Zen 3 and GPU cache scrubbers.

You can stop making excuses. PS5 is the superior machine.

@gamingisbad: Hehe you funny really do enjoy your posts Phlop

@gamingisbad: The fact you think i said Series X was superior proves my point. As i have said a million times, i expect both consoles show similar results through the gen. If Series X ends up on top it will be a ridiculously small advantage....something people will not even notice.

Ouch Lems, ouch. This is just sad. I'd leave this place for a while if I were you.

Series X will probably end up the gen on top

I think it just goes to show that the series x and s are really raw out the gate and that the development is far behind ps5 which is more polished, farcry 6 is suppose to be going all out on rdna 2 so we will see what happens with series x and ps5 when it comes to that game, even so it looks like you can't not loose with any console you choose because they are both awesome..

Or maybe the PS5 is the more capable machine. I expect the gap to widen in PS5's favor as the gen goes on. There are more things in the PS5 that devs have to unlock, while XSX is just off-the-shelf parts.

@gamingisbad: I am sorry but that is pure fud, the series x has a better gpu and cpu plus memory bandwidth, it is purely down to brand new hardware in the series x as opposed to a beefed up ps4 gpu,, and also the fact that developers have got to sort out the series s to which I personally think is having a knock on effect which if you look at the dirt 5 Digital Foundry comparison it makes sense..

PS5 has infinity cache on its CPU similar to Zen 3.

PS5 has GPU cache scrubbers + higher clocks lead to better performance in other areas of the GPU.

XSX only has a theoretical TF advantage that will never be realized in actual games. Return your XSX and buy a PS5.

@gamingisbad: Seriously, man?!

Come on now this is starting to become obvious. Series X issues look like the game not the hardware.

At what point do we let go of incompetent devs or gdk excuse? I think what's being shown in all multiplats is the obvious answer: The PS5 is the more powerful console.

@Sagemode87: What’s sad is fanboys like you saying shit like that lol

Is if rushed on xbox is rushed on PS5 as well how come the PS5 comes on top?

Rush or not both are under the pressure from covid lockdown.

This is another part were you were wrong as well as other system wars analyst that cry 30 or 40% gap in favor of the series X, when this 2 machines are a spit from each other.

Yeah VRR doesn't fix the low quality settings and lower resolution on xbox.

@BenjaminBanklin said:

Devs were giving the heads up months ago that Series S was gonna be trash. They got shouted down, per usual. It's even worse than what they projected.

Also, this gave me a good laugh on n4g.

Can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm seriously considering getting a Series S instead of X... at least initially. Because my first priority is getting this rumoured Switch Pro next year, so I think I'd be happy with Series S for now. Definitely going to think about it.

Seems to me Sony has the better tools and its a lot easier to develop games on PS5 then XsX. Just looks really bad for MS right now with all the power talk they preached and 1st impressions are bad for them so far. Most likely in a year we might get to see what XsX is capable of

I see the tools broke again for this game but not for COD.🤣🤣🤣

Wait until Pedro gets here with its usual tears and denial IF he comes.😂😂

When the gen matures enough and things are still the same then we can let this go. As the video says the series x looks like its running a lower quality version of the game meant for the lower consoles. Devs are looking into it. If the devs say hey that the best it can do then that answers that. For now as shown in some of the stages looks like it at least has headroom to bumb up the quality to the ps5 version. Maybe it will suffer more but who knows lets see if updates comes for the game first.

Devs are never going to say one version is better than the other. They're going to say "We'll look into it" and never follow up with it.

It's the RX 6000 GPUs that have the Infinity Cache, Zen 3 has a unified level 3 cache instead of a split one like in Zen 2, from what I understand. That's it's big thing. There's nothing Zen 3 about the CPUs in consoles.

A lot of this RDNA 2 and Zen 3 stuff came after the PS5 was finalised. MS was the only ones that waited specifically for for RDNA 2 completion. It's not off the shelf and just plonked in there, MS built the console around it those features.

Also, the custom choices Sony made, were for what is best for their console and their development choices and software. To say it's better would imply that they're better at GPU designing than AMD, a company that just matched Nvidia's Ampere architecture with their RDNA 2 architecture, something no one saw coming.

Now the explanation that the PS5 is using much more mature development tools is either an argument that you're going to accept or not. But I wouldn't cling to the notion of PS5 having secret sauce tech.

Now I don't care if the PS5 is more powerful, it won't impact me. My argument is that all consoles have more to give than what launch games would suggest in all areas. But imo, it seems to me that to a lot of console gamers here, it's so important, that they are willing to throw logic out of the window to justify the results they want.

I thought that the PS5 was supposed to be the weaker console. It has better graphics than the Series X even though the PS5 has less tflops of power.

Please provide proof that RDNA2 features came after the PS5 was finalize same with Zen 3, now i am sure Zen 3 is not inside the PS5 in any form, but what you are saying there is based on MS PR which has nothing to do with Sony.

And yes is based on the whole shit of we waited until RDNA2 was complete crap MS was spewing, Cerny was very clear about the PS5 been RDNA2 based, they chose what serve then best and what not they leave it behind, hell the Pro had rapid pack math which is a Vega feature and the xbox one X didn't have it even that it came 1 year latter.

I am sure sony as well as MS had all full RDNA2 to pick from and they chose what they liked, have you heard about infinity cache on series X? Because we haven't and is in RDNA2, yet the PS5 has cache scrubbers, and Cerny claimed on record that if a feature similar to their product came around the same time as the PS5 it means their collaboration with AMD was successful.

MS doesn't give and inch when it knows it has an advantage, which is why they have ride BC so hard.

Yet you have not read about infinity cache on series X.

Come on man you clearly are butthurt about the PS5 winning this test.