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#1 Vinegar_Strokes
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"Blizzard has revealed that Diablo III will allow players to trade in-game items for real money via an officially sanctioned auction house, integrated in the game.

The move was revealed to press at a preview event for the game's beta at the company's offices in Irvine, California.

It was also confirmed that the game will require an internet connection to play at all times.

The auction house, the first of its kind, will be exclusively for player-to-player trading; Blizzard will not sell items through it. The aim, explained executive producer Rob Pardo, is to provide a secure and fun environment for a player-driven economy to develop around the game, which focuses on the acquisition of randomised loot.

Blizzard will take a "nominal" flat-rate fee for each listing and sale, and an additional fee if players choose to cash out payments for sold items via a third-party payment provider such as PayPal.

There will be separate auction houses for each region and currency. Another separate, but functionally identical auction house will exist for players who wish to trade using in-game gold rather than real currency.

Players will be able to trade items, components and game gold on the auction house. Blizzard is considering allowing the sale of game characters, too. Trading via the auction house will be completely anonymous.

Players will be allowed a small number of free listings per week to encourage participation in the currency auction house, making it possible to begin trading without making any payments.

Once an auction has sold, sellers can choose either to pay the proceeds into their Battle.net account balance, or cash out via the third-party payment provider. There will be one approved partner for payments, but Blizzard did not name the company as the deal has not yet been struck.

Money earned from auction sales and paid into a Battle.net account can be spent in the Diablo III auction house, but also at the Blizzard Store on merchandise, games, or services such as World of Warcraft subscriptions and character transfers.

Other auction house features include a "smart search" function that finds loot appropriate to your characters, automated bidding and buyout opions.

Blizzard said it did not plan to create a similar real money auction house for World of Warcraft, despite the prevalence of unauthorised real money trading around the massively popular MMO. Pardo explained that Blizzard felt the idea did not suit the "prestige system" of WOW's item game, where items are tied to specific achievements and bind to game characters. But it was considered a good fit for the "merchant economy" stimulated by Diablo's randomly created and freely tradable items.

By collecting a fixed rather than a percentage fee on auction house sales, Blizzard will have no incentive to manipulate the game design in order to make more money from the auction house, Pardo argued.

He also stated that there would be no other charges or micro-transaction costs for playing Diablo III.

Pardo further confirmed that the game will only be playable online. This, he said, was due to the deep integration of Battle.net online features and the desire for all player characters to be persistent and able to move seamlessly between solo and co-op play, as well as to prevent cheating and improve security.

Other Battle.net features announced for Diablo III included matchmaking for the Versus player-versus-player mode, a public game finder for co-op, immediate drop-in co-op for friends, and a Banner system that displays your achievements and play ****to other players.

Blizzard also showed a new, radically streamlined skill system for the game, which allows players to freely customise their characters on the fly. The public beta test was revealed to cover the early stages of the game, taking players up to a low-level boss fight with returning foe the Skeleton King at Tristram cathedral. All five character ****s will be playable."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-08-01-diablo-iii-has-real-money-auction-house

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#2 Metric_Fantasie
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Is this really that big of a deal?
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#3 Banjo_Kongfooie
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Is this really that big of a deal?Metric_Fantasie
For those who love playing Diablo offline it is...
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#4 Vinegar_Strokes
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Is this really that big of a deal?Metric_Fantasie
i don't think so, no. but im sure there is plenty that will
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#5 Metric_Fantasie
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[QUOTE="Metric_Fantasie"]Is this really that big of a deal?Banjo_Kongfooie
For those who love playing Diablo offline it is...

You can still play single player, yes you need a internet connection. Who doesn't have an internet connection in this day and age? It doesn't even need to be a good internet connection.
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#6 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"][QUOTE="Metric_Fantasie"]Is this really that big of a deal?Metric_Fantasie
For those who love playing Diablo offline it is...

You can still play single player, yes you need a internet connection. Who doesn't have an internet connection in this day and age? It doesn't even need to be a good internet connection.

I'm' sure 56k users, if there are any out there any more, will have trouble. Just downloading a 100mb with 56k will put you in hibernation.
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#7 Metric_Fantasie
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[QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="Metric_Fantasie"][QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"] For those who love playing Diablo offline it is...

You can still play single player, yes you need a internet connection. Who doesn't have an internet connection in this day and age? It doesn't even need to be a good internet connection.

I'm' sure 56k users, if there are any out there any more, will have trouble. Just downloading a 100mb with 56k will put you in hibernation.

They'll still be fine. I played Diablo 2 on my 56k connection no problem.
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#8 Santesyu
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lan is dead.

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#9 agpickle
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>:O Do not want.

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#10 deactivated-5d0e4d67d0988
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"Blizzard has revealed that Diablo III will allow players to trade in-game items for real money via an officially sanctioned auction house, integrated in the game.

Vinegar_Strokes

Let the item duping begin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxQmOR_QLfQ&feature=player_embedded#at=20
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#11 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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Not buying it. I refuse to play games with Draconian DRM and this is stepping over the line.

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#12 ChubbyGuy40
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Blizzard...I do not approve of your decision.

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#13 Elann2008
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Not buying it. I refuse to play games with Draconian DRM and this is stepping over the line.

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Sorry I had to laugh at the draconian DRM comment. That is true. :)
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#14 TheShadowLord07
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thats a shame since my internet connection goes out from time to time. hopefully blizzard wont do this

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#15 Elann2008
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thats a shame since my internet connection goes out from time to time. hopefully blizzard wont do this

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So you'll probably lose a lot of your progress. What's up with your internet connection though?
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#16 scar-hawk
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Meh IDC. I'm getting Diablo 3 no matter what. Maybe not at launch though.
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#17 rzepak
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I really dont care about the need for a constant connection because unlike Ubisofts games Diablo 3 is a PC game and it allows save anywhere so I wont lose any progress at all. In other new I love that Ill be able to get real cash for items, hells yeah thats just awesome.

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#18 Elann2008
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I really dont care about the need for a constant connection because unlike Ubisofts games Diablo 3 is a PC game and it allows save anywhere so I wont lose any progress at all. In other new I love that Ill be able to get real cash for items, hells yeah thats just awesome.

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Good point. Just hit save like we do with most games that have "quick save." :)
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#19 biggest_loser
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I don't care about the Internet connection part because anyone still with a 56K modem is stuck in the Stone Age and is probably not that interested in modern gaming What I don't like is the real money thing. We're slowly building towards having to pay for certain features. You can feel it. But which company will take the plunge first? It might only take one and thats scary!
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#20 topgunmv
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Guess I won't be buying it then. Torchlight 2 is probably going to be better anyways, considering that most of the guys that actually made the previous diablo games are making that.

I use wireless internet, and I'm not going to put up with crap like that for the singleplayer portion of a game.

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#22 KC_Hokie
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That really sucks for PC gamers. This DRM/having to be online just to play trend really sucks for PC gamers.
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#23 topgunmv
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I don't care about the Internet connection part because anyone still with a 56K modem is stuck in the Stone Age and is probably not that interested in modern gaming What I don't like is the real money thing. We're slowly building towards having to pay for certain features. You can feel it. But which company will take the plunge first? It might only take one and thats scary! biggest_loser

Newsflash, a large amount of people don't have access to reliable fast landline internet service.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-internet-access-in-america-disaster/

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#24 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]I don't care about the Internet connection part because anyone still with a 56K modem is stuck in the Stone Age and is probably not that interested in modern gaming What I don't like is the real money thing. We're slowly building towards having to pay for certain features. You can feel it. But which company will take the plunge first? It might only take one and thats scary! topgunmv

Newsflash, a large amount of people don't have access to fast landline internet service.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-internet-access-in-america-disaster/

Seeing as how AT&T is buying everyone, maybe even T-Mobile. With their crappy DSL service with a slow 5mb or something around that much internet speed.. I am inclined to agree with you. :P I've used AT&T for years and I'll never go back!
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#25 TheShadowLord07
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[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

thats a shame since my internet connection goes out from time to time. hopefully blizzard wont do this

Elann2008

So you'll probably lose a lot of your progress. What's up with your internet connection though?

liken no kidding. and I think its the routers fault why my connection goes out once in awhile. I might have to get that replace.

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#26 rzepak
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and people thought they were going to be happy with Blizzard saying they would not charge a monthly fee for this ... lololol ....

they always find a way to get their money and more of it

Blizzard just stop with this dumb idea and admit you wanted to attach a sub to Diablo 3

DeViLzzz

How did you come to this conclusion...

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#27 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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That's f***ing stupid. What the hell are you doing Blizzard?
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#28 SaltyMeatballs
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Well that sucks, and for what reason? I hope not piracy as it will get cracked anyway...
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#29 sinpkr
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meh im sad , was rlly looking forward to this game ,but my internet connection is iffy . i dont get it . if itss linked to ur bliz account why would u need to be always need constant internet connection. if u wanna play online u will have to use ur linked account . if u don want to play online u shpuldnt need to be connected to b-net. ill pass blizzard intill warcraft 4 . ill be picking up torchlight 2 i suppose

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#30 Vaasman
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This is just getting pathetic. Why can't developers put any faith in legitimate gamers whatsoever? How the hell am I supposed to play on a laptop if I'm not at home or near the internet? What if my internet goes down for maintenance or just becomes bad or I have to reset the router? I'm screwed I guess.

Honestly I'm not sure I even want the game, plenty of great action RPG's around that won't treat me like I'm a suspected cheater and criminal.

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Bye bye miss American pie...
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#32 ultraking
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Did I read that right? Players can auction off items for "real" money? Keep this game far away from ps3
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#33 Rekunta
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Thanks Blizzard you just saved me money. I'll be sure to enjoy your game though, IF I buy it used 10 years from when it comes out. No way a single cent of my money is going to support this. What a bunch of BS....yea, we need to constantly be connected for "auctions" and such. Sure. Grow some balls Blizzard and simply state it because of piracy.
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#34 garrett_daniels
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I'll be sure to enjoy your game though, IF I buy it used 10 years from when it comes out.Rekunta

Ah, but your used copy is a worthless coaster because the bundled CD key is irrevocably tied to a Battle.NET account... :(

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#35 Rekunta
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[QUOTE="Rekunta"]I'll be sure to enjoy your game though, IF I buy it used 10 years from when it comes out.garrett_daniels

Ah, but your used copy is a worthless coaster because the bundled CD key is irrevocably tied to a Battle.NET account... :(

Then I'll have to weigh my other options. ;)
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#36 GeneralShowzer
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Never had a single issue with Starcraft 2. Also, it's not about piracy, Starcraft 2 was cracked pretty quickly. It's about online/social integration.
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#37 Rekunta
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Never had a single issue with Starcraft 2. Also, it's not about piracy, Starcraft 2 was cracked pretty quickly. It's about online/social integration.

It partly is, even Blizzard stated as much in an interview with PC gamer. There's absolutely no reason they couldn't make SP offline.
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#38 GTSaiyanjin2
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Its the same as it was with SC2 they dont want any local MP, as then it would be possible to play online with someone who didnt buy the game. Or have a whole lan party with just one copy of the game.

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#39 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="Rekunta"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Never had a single issue with Starcraft 2. Also, it's not about piracy, Starcraft 2 was cracked pretty quickly. It's about online/social integration.

It partly is, even Blizzard stated as much in an interview with PC gamer. There's absolutely no reason they couldn't make SP offline.

Disheartening to hear. However as I said I never ran into any problems with Starcraft II and as long as the service and the game is of the same quality I see no issues.
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#40 SapSacPrime
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I don't mind the being online at all times part since I would play it online mainly anyway, I really don't like the sound of that auction house though :| I strongly dislike these games where people can pump crap loads of cash into them to succeed, I would rather have a monthly fee but there you go.

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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="Rekunta"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Never had a single issue with Starcraft 2. Also, it's not about piracy, Starcraft 2 was cracked pretty quickly. It's about online/social integration.

It partly is, even Blizzard stated as much in an interview with PC gamer. There's absolutely no reason they couldn't make SP offline.

Disheartening to hear. However as I said I never ran into any problems with Starcraft II and as long as the service and the game is of the same quality I see no issues.

Hopefully BN's more stable than Ubi's servers for Silent Hunter 5. They were a nightmare and dropped out constantly, so I have good reason to be wary. I also would like to be able to play this on the go on my laptop. It's like buying a car and being told I can only drive on select roads. I paid for the rights to play the game....or at least I thought that's how it worked. As long as I'm not harming anyone or making a profit off of it, I should be able to use it anywhere I wish with no restrictions.
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#43 Metaw
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It's 2011, no surprise at all. Are there any refrigerators with online functionality yet? If not they should totally fix that. Come on, online 24/7, you know you want it.

Won't hinder my online/offline playability.

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". Wilson added further that if a player's connection drops, a player could die but the in-game penalty wouldn't be harsh (specifically a 10 percent decrease in durability for equipped weapons and items) unless the player is on Hardcore mode, in which case he or she loses the character permanently. He also said that piracy was a factor in this decision, but it wasn't "a deciding factor"."

Lame, all I'm saying, but I'd still love to play this game sadly.

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#45 lawlessx
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". Wilson added further that if a player's connection drops, a player could die but the in-game penalty wouldn't be harsh (specifically a 10 percent decrease in durability for equipped weapons and items) unless the player is on Hardcore mode, in which case he or she loses the character permanently. He also said that piracy was a factor in this decision, but it wasn't "a deciding factor"."

Lame, all I'm saying, but I'd still love to play this game sadly.

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looks like they just gave people a reason to not play in hardcore mode

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#46 silversix_
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I don't like diablo but i may get this just to make money lol.
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#47 R3FURBISHED
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Blizzard has to do something to try and deal with pirates, shame it has to be this. But is LAN support cancelled yet?
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#48 SakusEnvoy
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Thanks Blizzard you just saved me money. I'll be sure to enjoy your game though, IF I buy it used 10 years from when it comes out. No way a single cent of my money is going to support this. What a bunch of BS....yea, we need to constantly be connected for "auctions" and such. Sure. Grow some balls Blizzard and simply state it because of piracy. Rekunta
[Laughs at the fact that this thread would be full of 'Ubisoft sucks!' posts if the word "Blizzard" was replaced with "Ubisoft" in the article.

Always-on DRM: is it because of piracy? No, no of course not... it's a feature! Now even your single player games can be "social", which is of course what you must have wanted when you clicked the option for 'single player'...]

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#49 Birdy09
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Not a problem, Diablo is pretty much an MMO now im guessing anyway. Store shop is a good idea since you wont have to go through illegal channels to buy items, and the cost would be player driven, or even if it is chinese farmers they have to bend to the same rules as a player. I think this kind of step was inevitable for the MMO market. Constant internet connect to me is a GOOD thing, no cheats, not item dupes game saved on the server. I can see why some might complain, but quite frankly, you wont be missed.
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[QUOTE="Luxen90"]

". Wilson added further that if a player's connection drops, a player could die but the in-game penalty wouldn't be harsh (specifically a 10 percent decrease in durability for equipped weapons and items) unless the player is on Hardcore mode, in which case he or she loses the character permanently. He also said that piracy was a factor in this decision, but it wasn't "a deciding factor"."

Lame, all I'm saying, but I'd still love to play this game sadly.

lawlessx

looks like they just gave people a reason to not play in hardcore mode

Honestly, that's much, much worse than anything else. They punish you for losing your internet connection? :?