DICE Is A Bad Developer IMO

Heres why I feel this way. This is focused on the PC version of Bad Company 2. Im sure the console versions share some problems with the PC version.

DICE hasnt even fixed VOIP, the most important feature of a team based game. Its been almost a year. Admit it. How many times do you hear someone talk in-game? Once every 3 months? The hit detection is terrible as always. The defuse/plant bugs havent been fixed. TONS of people are still having disconnection issues. People ALWAYS complaining about lag in every server. If you dont believe me, go on the EA forums and youll see what I mean.

The game is fun as hell I will admit, and I play it a lot, almost daily, but there are so many problems with this game that I think it would be better off in a hands of another developer. God or whoever you believe in will have blessed us all when Valve makes their version of Battlefield. Monthly map (actual maps and not variations) releases, constant bug fixes, community updates/events.

Being the developers they are, DICE should have more than enough funding to take care of its games after release.

Love BF. Hate DICE. Thats my current stance.

Heres why I feel this way. This is focused on Bad Company 2.

vkun

If that constitutes them as a bad developer, then I can name many way worst.

How many times do you hear someone talk in-game

Every Day.

Valve makes their version of Battlefield.

LOL WHAT!?

vkun

The hit detection isn't worse than BF2. That was by far the worst I've ever seen in my life.

Heres why I feel this way. This is focused on Bad Company 2.

DICE hasnt even fixed VOIP, the most important feature of a team based game. Its been almost a year. Admit it. How many times do you hear someone talk in-game? Once every 3 months? The hit detection is terrible as always. The defuse/plant bugs havent been fixed. TONS of people are still having disconnection issues. People ALWAYS complaining about lag in every server. If you dont believe me, go on the EA forums and youll see what I mean.vkun

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How many times do you hear someone talk in-game

Every Day.

Valve makes their version of Battlefield.

LOL WHAT!?

VensInferno

when he says valve made their own version i think he might be refering to day of defeat

TC had the idea down, but the execution was poor.

(This is all based only a few months after release. Don't know if their game got better).

DICE are bad devs because in Bad Company 2, they make the sniper class OP. Combine this with horrible vehicle spawns (takes forever to kill a half-decent player in a Chopper just for another to spawn seconds later), and weapon balance is terrible to the point were some weapons are COMPLETELY worst in every way to others. The game has a fun concept, but it's without a doubt flawed.

I also hear they helped with multiplayer in MoH, and we all saw how great that turned out...

DICE = Developer of Battlefield

Battlefield = best FPS series ever

DICE = Amazing :P

[QUOTE="vkun"]

How many times do you hear someone talk in-game

Every Day.

Valve makes their version of Battlefield.

LOL WHAT!?

VensInferno

If youre talking a console version then I believe you. No one talks in the PC version and its a well known fact that VOIP is still broken. And supposedly the PC version was supposed to be first priority but apparently it wasnt.

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[QUOTE="vkun"]

How many times do you hear someone talk in-game

Every Day.

Valve makes their version of Battlefield.

LOL WHAT!?

If youre talking a console version then I believe you. No one talks in the PC version and its a well known fact that VOIP is still broken.

DICE = Developer of Battlefield

Battlefield = best FPS series ever

DICE = Amazing :P

NaveedLife

Only your first statement is a fact. Personally, I thought Bad Company 1 & 2 were good, but would NEVER consider it the best FPS in almost any category.

DICE get's more praise then they deserve.

I strongly disagree

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millerlight89

If youre talking a console version then I believe you. No one talks in the PC version and its a well known fact that VOIP is still broken.

People use Steam, AOL, and MSN to chat. Might as well release a broken in-game text chat right? Regardless of how many people will or will not use the in-game chat, it should still work. And not everyone uses TS, Vent or Skype.

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DICE = Developer of Battlefield

Battlefield = best FPS series ever

DICE = Amazing :P

Only your first statement is a fact. Personally, I thought Bad Company 1 & 2 were good, but would NEVER consider it the best FPS in almost any category.

DICE get's more praise then they deserve.

Have you played Vietnam yet?

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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

DICE = Developer of Battlefield

Battlefield = best FPS series ever

DICE = Amazing :P

millerlight89

Only your first statement is a fact. Personally, I thought Bad Company 1 & 2 were good, but would NEVER consider it the best FPS in almost any category.

DICE get's more praise then they deserve.

Yeah I was saying all BF games (although I only own 2142 and BC2), although even still I think BC2 blows most other FPS games out of the water. I am assuming he likes GG and their FPS, Killzone. I own KZ2 and while I love the style of the game, the controls, campaign, characters, dialog, story, and more are broken. The multiplayer was pretty good, but could have been better no doubt.

The only thing I currently hate about DICE is that they use horrible color schemes for their menu text.

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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

DICE = Developer of Battlefield

Battlefield = best FPS series ever

DICE = Amazing :P

millerlight89

Only your first statement is a fact. Personally, I thought Bad Company 1 & 2 were good, but would NEVER consider it the best FPS in almost any category.

DICE get's more praise then they deserve.

Yup. Only played Bad Company. It's still a Battfield game, and DICE's current piece of work. I'm not one to care about past successes, either. BF2 could have been the most amazing game of it's time upon release, but if the devs stay stuck in the past and don't evlove with the times, they may no longer be "great" devs anymore.

Now, I won't say this is the case for DICE, but I will say that their current jab at FPS in this day and age left me a little underwhelmed after all hype and praise they got when Bad Company (mostly BC2) was announced.

If you play the game every day, obviously they did something right...

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

DICE = Developer of Battlefield

Battlefield = best FPS series ever

DICE = Amazing :P

xYamatox

Only your first statement is a fact. Personally, I thought Bad Company 1 & 2 were good, but would NEVER consider it the best FPS in almost any category.

DICE get's more praise then they deserve.

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Only your first statement is a fact. Personally, I thought Bad Company 1 & 2 were good, but would NEVER consider it the best FPS in almost any category.

DICE get's more praise then they deserve.

xYamatox

Yup. Only played Bad Company. It's still a Battfield game, and DICE's current piece of work. I'm not one to care about past successes, either. BF2 could have been the most amazing game of it's time upon release, but if the devs stay stuck in the past and don't evlove with the times, they may no longer be "great" devs anymore.

Now, I won't say this is the case for DICE, but I will say that their current jab at FPS in this day and age left me a little underwhelmed after all hype and praise they got when Bad Company (mostly BC2) was announced.

People use Steam, AOL, and MSN to chat. Might as well release a broken in-game text chat right? Regardless of how many people will or will not use the in-game chat, it should still work. And not everyone uses TS, Vent or Skype.

vkun

Haven't experienced any of these issues on Xbox 360. I guess some of my $60/yr is going towards great VOIP on all games.

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"] Have you ONLY played the BC series?Funconsole

Yup. Only played Bad Company. It's still a Battfield game, and DICE's current piece of work. I'm not one to care about past successes, either. BF2 could have been the most amazing game of it's time upon release, but if the devs stay stuck in the past and don't evlove with the times, they may no longer be "great" devs anymore.

Now, I won't say this is the case for DICE, but I will say that their current jab at FPS in this day and age left me a little underwhelmed after all hype and praise they got when Bad Company (mostly BC2) was announced.

Last game played since I had Xbox live (had a party, and everyone wanted to use their XBL gamertags/loadouts in splitscreen).

As for the things that underwhelmed in BC2:

- Marksmen cl@ss has little drawback to him, and too many players flock to this class when others are needed.

- Engineer must face tanks/Choppers head on, needs to fire off multiple rockets to kill them (tanks at least), but can get facerolled in a single hit from almost all vehicles...

- Weapon balance is simply bad. There are a good number of weapons that are rendered completely useless when compared to others (more so then most FPS games).

- Lower ranked players are at a HUGE disadvantage when higher ranks are running around with higher bullet DMG, Armor, etc.

- While some vehicles have a decent learning curve, someone who has half a brian and literally spawn-camp a team at base, killing threatening Engineers only seconds after they spawn. Once it's FINALLY taken down, a new chopper is spawned only moments later.

- Do I have to mention the poor single player? I know most FPS games aren't geared to Single Player these days, but this literally felt tacked on.

- Fully destructable buildings are cool, but when every building looks almost the same, it makes the maps look rather bland.

- "Free DLC Multiplayer Maps" that were on the disk the whole time...

I'm sure there are other things I can't recall at the moment. With that said, I don't think BC2 is a bad game by any means (I even said ealier I thought it was good), but not anywhere near the quality people treat it. It does a lot of the crummy things that CoD get's hated for, just in a slightly different way.

because they expect you to have another form of communication if you're a PC gamer.

vent, TS, or even steam/skype are good places to start.

If the hit detection was better(not bad but not as good as most shooters) and they had fixed the glitches, the game would had been perfect IMO.

Yup. Only played Bad Company. It's still a Battfield game, and DICE's current piece of work. I'm not one to care about past successes, either. xYamatox

because they expect you to have another form of communication if you're a PC gamer.

vent, TS, or even steam/skype are good places to start.

Dead-Memories

Makes no difference at all, and sounds like an excuse if anything. I can always talk to my friend over the phone via bluetooth headset (same one I game with) if we are playing different games on the PS3, but that doesn't discredit the lack of Cross Game Chat support.

I can always talk to my friend over the phone via bluetooth headset >xYamatox

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Yup. Only played Bad Company. It's still a Battfield game, and DICE's current piece of work. I'm not one to care about past successes, either. millerlight89

While I don't disagree that BF2 was probably an amazing game for it's time, I think saying that it's better than most FPS games this gen might be more nostalgia playing it's tricks than the actual game.

With that said, the only experience I have with DICE is the Bad Company series, and word-of-mouth from MoH's multiplayer (which isn't great from what I gather). From the last three games DICE have worked on, only one received a AAA score (only 2 have received AAA in their lifetime). Take that for what you will.

DICE = Developer of Battlefield

Battlefield = best FPS series ever

DICE = Amazing :P

NaveedLife

Really ?

then you need to play more FPS :P

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DICE = Developer of Battlefield

Battlefield = best FPS series ever

DICE = Amazing :P

badtaker

Really ?

then you need to play more FPS :P

Bah you know the saying, you play other FPSes besides Counter Strike, Quake, and Battlefield and you've played them all. 'Cause they're all the same :P

Battlefield is the best MULTIPLAYER FPS of all time though :D

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because they expect you to have another form of communication if you're a PC gamer.

vent, TS, or even steam/skype are good places to start.

xYamatox

Makes no difference at all, and sounds like an excuse if anything. I can always talk to my friend over the phone via bluetooth headset (same one I game with) if we are playing different games on the PS3, but that doesn't discredit the lack of Cross Game Chat support.

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

DICE = Developer of Battlefield

Battlefield = best FPS series ever

DICE = Amazing :P

badtaker

Really ?

then you need to play more FPS :P

Lettuce be reality, BF2 was the best mp game ever DivergeUnify

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[QUOTE="xYamatox"]

Yup. Only played Bad Company. It's still a Battfield game, and DICE's current piece of work. I'm not one to care about past successes, either. xYamatox

While I don't disagree that BF2 was probably an amazing game for it's time, I think saying that it's better than most FPS games this gen might be more nostalgia playing it's tricks than the actual game.

With that said, the only experience I have with DICE is the Bad Company series, and word-of-mouth from MoH's multiplayer (which isn't great from what I gather). From the last three games DICE have worked on, only one received a AAA score (only 2 have received AAA in their lifetime). Take that for what you will.