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#1 Pdiddy105
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http://planetbattlefield.gamespy.com/fullstory.php?id=160413

its good to know that theres another studio out there that isn't intent on screwing over its original fanbase.

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#2 SpruceCaboose
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I cannot wait to see the sales data for MW2 on PC. Will be interesting to see if I am correct.
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#3 clyde46
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I'll take this with a pitch of salf coming from the devs that released BF:BC on consoles only. Still least devs are sticking up for us pc lot. and LOL at the last comment on the article.

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#4 rogerjak
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Nice. I am glad I prefer BC2 to MW2 any day.

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#5 clyde46
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For the lazy.

Yesterday, Infinity Ward announced during a webcast that Modern Warfare 2 will not have dedicated servers or a server browser. A couple DICE developers have spoken out about this announcement, and have said dedicated servers are a big part of the communities needs. Thanks BF-News.de.

We feel it's important to support the unique community needs of the PC community. Dedicated servers are a big part of this, and we recognize that requirement. We're putting a server browser and matchmaking in 1943 PC and the same features are intended for BFBC2. We're working hard on the PC version with a dedicated team building and molding the game so it is not a console port. This team is lead by DICE developers responsible for Battlefield 2. Very experienced and hardcore PC gamers.

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Dedicated servers FTW. What ever secures a better online experience is a given for us.

Alan Kertz

#Battlefield You're dedicated to your game, why shouldn't your servers be dedicated too? We understand your pain #MW2 PC fans.

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@Demize99 What else would people expect from a PC game that's only a port of their console game.
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#6 MorbidToaster
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Here's what you're all missing. Sure, DEDICATED SERVERS FTW.

They've screwed the PC gamers with 1943 pretty bad. First it was same day, then it was delayed, now it's delayed too far for anyone to care. I have no faith in DICE anymore either. Show me BF 3 PC focus, and I'll be happy.

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#7 Mitjastiskovski
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Bah DICE are also bunch of assh*les. They delayed BF1943 until Q1 2010 while consoles got theirs in summer of 09. Screw DICE and Infinity Rip-off.

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#8 RadecSupreme
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Battlefield Bad company 2 will be mine. ;)

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#9 Kiyobear
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Here's what you're all missing. Sure, DEDICATED SERVERS FTW.

They've screwed the PC gamers with 1943 pretty bad. First it was same day, then it was delayed, now it's delayed too far for anyone to care. I have no faith in DICE anymore either. Show me BF 3 PC focus, and I'll be happy.

MorbidToaster

Releasing a game or games for consoles doesn't mean they have betrayed us. Besides, BF BC is a great game.

*sniffle* it makes me so happy they said what they did. If CoD MW was a new trend I would.... I would..... not play MP FPS anymore. My favorite genre.

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#10 MajorGamer531
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Considering 1943 was pretty much a BF2: WW2 Minigame, I wouldn't feel too ripped off.

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#11 hot114
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Bwahaha DICE should be one to talk after how they ripped off the PC users with 1943

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#12 lowe0
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Bah DICE are also bunch of assh*les. They delayed BF1943 until Q1 2010 while consoles got theirs in summer of 09. Screw DICE and Infinity Rip-off.

Mitjastiskovski
Given this attitude, why does anyone bother developing for such an impossible-to-please audience?
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#13 Kiyobear
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[QUOTE="Mitjastiskovski"]

Bah DICE are also bunch of assh*les. They delayed BF1943 until Q1 2010 while consoles got theirs in summer of 09. Screw DICE and Infinity Rip-off.

lowe0

Given this attitude, why does anyone bother developing for such an impossible-to-please audience?

getting upset because they make console games, too, is silly. Especially since many PC gamers also game on consoles, like me.

Trust me, the vast majority of PC gamers don't feel this way.

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[QUOTE="Mitjastiskovski"]

Bah DICE are also bunch of assh*les. They delayed BF1943 until Q1 2010 while consoles got theirs in summer of 09. Screw DICE and Infinity Rip-off.

lowe0

Given this attitude, why does anyone bother developing for such an impossible-to-please audience?

haha for real. They got Battlefield 2142 as an exclusive and they still whine.

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#15 lowe0
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Bwahaha DICE should be one to talk after how they ripped off the PC users with 1943

hot114
How have they ripped you off? It's not like they've taken any money from you.
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Mitjastiskovski"]

Bah DICE are also bunch of assh*les. They delayed BF1943 until Q1 2010 while consoles got theirs in summer of 09. Screw DICE and Infinity Rip-off.

RadecSupreme

Given this attitude, why does anyone bother developing for such an impossible-to-please audience?

haha for real. They got Battlefield 2142 as an exclusive and they still whine.

And 1942. You guys didn't get '42. '43? I lold. I wanted to play it just for the engine, but other than that I wasn't very interested. You guys didn't really get BF 2 either. My point is...the Battlefield series has always been PC first, console second. Needless to say, the PC community is pretty pissed about 1943, whether we were really excited about it or not.
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#17 Dark_prince123
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I will buy the two upcoming Battlefield Games for the Same Price of MW 2 LOOL
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#18 Kiyobear
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[QUOTE="hot114"]

Bwahaha DICE should be one to talk after how they ripped off the PC users with 1943

lowe0

How have they ripped you off? It's not like they've taken any money from you.

Yeah, it's a crazy thing to suggest that they ripped you off by making a console game. Sad, really.

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#19 KG86
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Here's what you're all missing. Sure, DEDICATED SERVERS FTW.

They've screwed the PC gamers with 1943 pretty bad. First it was same day, then it was delayed, now it's delayed too far for anyone to care. I have no faith in DICE anymore either. Show me BF 3 PC focus, and I'll be happy.

MorbidToaster

PC gamers already have BF 1943, it's just called BF 1942.

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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Mitjastiskovski"]

Bah DICE are also bunch of assh*les. They delayed BF1943 until Q1 2010 while consoles got theirs in summer of 09. Screw DICE and Infinity Rip-off.

RadecSupreme

Given this attitude, why does anyone bother developing for such an impossible-to-please audience?

haha for real. They got Battlefield 2142 as an exclusive and they still whine.

BF is a PC fanchise, or was. BF:BC is an amazing, amazing game. It does sadden me that the focus has shifted to consoles but as long as the PC still gets support, and not console ports but real PC games, I will be happy. I gotta admit, though, BF:BC was so much fun it only needs tweaks and of course the benefits of PC communities.

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#21 Kiyobear
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[QUOTE="MorbidToaster"]

Here's what you're all missing. Sure, DEDICATED SERVERS FTW.

They've screwed the PC gamers with 1943 pretty bad. First it was same day, then it was delayed, now it's delayed too far for anyone to care. I have no faith in DICE anymore either. Show me BF 3 PC focus, and I'll be happy.

KG86

PC gamers already have BF 1943, it's just called BF 1942.

Not even remotely. Plus, there are things about 1943 that suck really, really bad, and things that rock. But 1943 is nothing like playing 1942. Not even remotely close. Just because they are noth WW2..... I mean jeez... Why do you guys have to make PC gamers look bad?

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#22 Mitjastiskovski
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[QUOTE="Mitjastiskovski"]

Bah DICE are also bunch of assh*les. They delayed BF1943 until Q1 2010 while consoles got theirs in summer of 09. Screw DICE and Infinity Rip-off.

lowe0

Given this attitude, why does anyone bother developing for such an impossible-to-please audience?

Impossible to please audiene lol? PC developers have been screwing the PC over for years now, bad ports, waiting for delayed games etc.

BF1943 got delayed the whole year nearly compared to the console version..... MW2 not including mod or dedicated serversv lol? Thats the whole point of PC gaming.

Anyway enjoy being ripped off $10 for 3 maps on the console version

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#23 organic_machine
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I cannot wait to see the sales data for MW2 on PC. Will be interesting to see if I am correct. SpruceCaboose

I think you will be correct, it will get a huge profit on PC. However, I think it will have less sales compared to MW1 and more piracy compared to MW1. I hope I am wrong, however.

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#24 RadecSupreme
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[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Given this attitude, why does anyone bother developing for such an impossible-to-please audience? Kiyobear

haha for real. They got Battlefield 2142 as an exclusive and they still whine.

BF is a PC fanchise, or was. BF:BC is an amazing, amazing game. It does sadden me that the focus has shifted to consoles but as long as the PC still gets support, and not console ports but real PC games, I will be happy. I gotta admit, though, BF:BC was so much fun it only needs tweaks and of course the benefits of PC communities.

Well you guys are going to get BC 2 which is 10x better than BC1 because it will have fully destructible environments and awesome graphics with better weapons. Well everyone is getting it but we know the PC community will make it better with support and mods.

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#25 MorbidToaster
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[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

haha for real. They got Battlefield 2142 as an exclusive and they still whine.

RadecSupreme

BF is a PC fanchise, or was. BF:BC is an amazing, amazing game. It does sadden me that the focus has shifted to consoles but as long as the PC still gets support, and not console ports but real PC games, I will be happy. I gotta admit, though, BF:BC was so much fun it only needs tweaks and of course the benefits of PC communities.

Well you guys are going to get BC 2 which is 10x better than BC1 because it will have fully destructible environments and awesome graphics with better weapons. Well everyone is getting it but we know the PC community will make it better with support and mods.

I wasn't a huge fan of BC actually. I ended up back on BF 2 pretty quick. I want that new engine they're running on my PC, it's taking too long. D:
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[QUOTE="Kiyobear"]

[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

haha for real. They got Battlefield 2142 as an exclusive and they still whine.

RadecSupreme

BF is a PC fanchise, or was. BF:BC is an amazing, amazing game. It does sadden me that the focus has shifted to consoles but as long as the PC still gets support, and not console ports but real PC games, I will be happy. I gotta admit, though, BF:BC was so much fun it only needs tweaks and of course the benefits of PC communities.

Well you guys are going to get BC 2 which is 10x better than BC1 because it will have fully destructible environments and awesome graphics with better weapons. Well everyone is getting it but we know the PC community will make it better with support and mods.

I am pysched. I am still a little annoyed that BF 3 isn't here but I love BF:BC. I played the hell out of that game. I am not really a hermit I just prefer PC's. But I can't go without my Fable 2 and Demon's Souls; Uncharted; Dead Rising (the original); you get the idea. My 360 died, though. I will replace it before Fable 3.

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]I cannot wait to see the sales data for MW2 on PC. Will be interesting to see if I am correct. organic_machine

I think you will be correct, it will get a huge profit on PC. However, I think it will have less sales compared to MW1 and more piracy compared to MW1. I hope I am wrong, however.

I call it about even, because my theory is that many of the loudest complainers are also the same that pirate games. We will see. Either way, I will be shocked if the PC version fails to profit.
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#28 organic_machine
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I will be shocked if the PC version fails to profit. SpruceCaboose
Me too. I'm pretty sure it has to make a profit, Modern Warfare is the Halo of this generation... everyone knows it.

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]I will be shocked if the PC version fails to profit. organic_machine

Me too. I'm pretty sure it has to make a profit, Modern Warfare is the Halo of this generation... everyone knows it.

I love the original Halo but I gotta tell ya the original CoD being one of my favorite games of all time I can't stand where the series went. In other words, it being the Halo of this generation is not a good thing to me.

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MW 2 PC is really in no jepordy or 'flopping'. Alot of the whiners are pirates, and alot of the whiner (like me) will still be buying it (like me).

I played alot of the first on console, so I know what it'll be like, and it's not the end of the world.

I'm more upset about a lack of mods than latency issues.

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Nice to see them taking advantage of Infinity Ward being jerks. Lately EA has been really proactive when it comes to creating goodwill in this fashion. Making themselves out to be crusaders of supreme PC justice puts them in a precarious situation where they're more vulnerable to criticism though. I now hold them to a higher standard when it comes to related issues. Walk the walk.

And what this PR move does for me is remind me that DICE needs to get all their side projects out of the way so they can focus on BF3 already. That's what most PC gamers would prefer I'm sure.

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[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]Nice to see them taking advantage of Infinity Ward being jerks. Lately EA has been really proactive when it comes to creating goodwill in this fashion. Making themselves out to be crusaders of supreme PC justice puts them in a precarious situation where they're more vulnerable to criticism though. I now hold them to a higher standard when it comes to related issues. Walk the walk. And what this PR move does for me is remind me that DICE needs to get all their side projects out of the way so they can focus on BF3 already.

I'll believe it when I see it. 'Oh, we'll have dedicated servers for sure...but the PC version is delayed a few months. Oh, you want BF 3...Sorry, we're working on BC 3 before you have 2?'
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MW 2 PC is really in no jepordy or 'flopping'. Alot of the whiners are pirates, and alot of the whiner (like me) will still be buying it (like me).

I played alot of the first on console, so I know what it'll be like, and it's not the end of the world.

I'm more upset about a lack of mods than latency issues.

MorbidToaster

I could never play a PC game without a community server and mod's (user maps are always the best). I never pirate, either. So, I won't miss the game, though. Without servers that turn the leveling and AI choppers and stuff off the game is a total mess. For me it was only playable mod'ed.

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]I cannot wait to see the sales data for MW2 on PC. Will be interesting to see if I am correct. organic_machine

I think you will be correct, it will get a huge profit on PC. However, I think it will have less sales compared to MW1 and more piracy compared to MW1. I hope I am wrong, however.

You hope ? Why? I hope it will sell like crap compared to MW1

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[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]Nice to see them taking advantage of Infinity Ward being jerks. Lately EA has been really proactive when it comes to creating goodwill in this fashion. Making themselves out to be crusaders of supreme PC justice puts them in a precarious situation where they're more vulnerable to criticism though. I now hold them to a higher standard when it comes to related issues. Walk the walk. And what this PR move does for me is remind me that DICE needs to get all their side projects out of the way so they can focus on BF3 already.MorbidToaster
I'll believe it when I see it. 'Oh, we'll have dedicated servers for sure...but the PC version is delayed a few months. Oh, you want BF 3...Sorry, we're working on BC 3 before you have 2?'

I honestly don't know why they bother. At this rate BF1943 will be released in time to compete with BC2, which certainly could not be preferable.

Does anyone particularly care much for a PC version of Bad Company 2 anyway? It is a console series first and I expect there to be parity between the different versions. So their "console port" jab rings a bit hypocritical to my ears at this point. Up to them to prove me wrong.

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#36 adamosmaki
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Here's what you're all missing. Sure, DEDICATED SERVERS FTW.

They've screwed the PC gamers with 1943 pretty bad. First it was same day, then it was delayed, now it's delayed too far for anyone to care. I have no faith in DICE anymore either. Show me BF 3 PC focus, and I'll be happy.

MorbidToaster
I dont think DICE betrayed us just becaused of 1943 At the same time DICE is constantly releasing patches and updates for both BF2 and 2142 while they released a freetoplay BF ( Battlefield heroes) and they also bringing BC2 on PC where as the first one wasnt and they also unveiled that BF3 is on the works
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This is coming from the guys who don't even make Bad Company for the PC? Infinity Ward should be like them and not make Modern Warfare for the PC at all. Then we would really see some fireworks. It's became a console franchise anyway.
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This is coming from the guys who don't even make Bad Company for the PC? Infinity Ward should be like them and not make Modern Warfare for the PC at all. Then we would really see some fireworks. It's became a console franchise anyway.Couth_
Did you want Bad Company for PC? I'm under the impression that no one really cared about the lack of its existence. I know I didn't and I'm about as big of a Battlefield fan there is. I consider all these spin-offs and expansions wastes of time. It's good that they're expanding the franchise onto multiple platforms, and for what it is Bad Company is great, but when it comes to PC there's only one thing I care about, and that is proper sequels.
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[QUOTE="Couth_"]This is coming from the guys who don't even make Bad Company for the PC? Infinity Ward should be like them and not make Modern Warfare for the PC at all. Then we would really see some fireworks. It's became a console franchise anyway.InsaneBasura
Did you want Bad Company for PC? I'm under the impression that no one really cared about the lack of its existence. I know I didn't and I'm about as big of a Battlefield fan there is. I consider all these spin-offs and expansions wastes of time. It's good that they're expanding the franchise onto multiple platforms, and for what it is Bad Company is great, but when it comes to PC there's only one thing I care about, and that is proper sequels.

Dear DICE,

Give me BF 3 as a PC exclusive with all the features we know and love. If you do, I will love you forever...until we need BF 4.

Love, Someone who doesn't really care about BF:BC

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#40 ManicAce
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Lets see what becomes of BC2 and BF3 before crucifying them. BF2 wasn't THAT long ago, it sold over 2m and is still 6th most played game in xfire, they know where the BF audience is. Since then they've brought BF2142 and add-ons for both as well as BF Heroes.

Bad Company and BF1943 were their gate to console market and they most likely didn't want PC versions stealing the spotlight, especially considering that 1943 in turn would had stolen the spotlight from Heroes.

Not to mention all the hassle tweaking the new engine for PC might be, I'm confident BF:BC2 will be great on PC and BF3 will retain its PC focus, even more so after their recent statements.

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I am happy to hear that DICE still supports the PC strongly. Probably why Battlefield 3 is coming exclusively to the PC.

BF 1943 and BFBC 2 will hold me off until that.

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#42 tutt3r
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yes i love dice they are bringing battlefield bad company where it belongs to the pc and they don't mess with us like activision/infinity ward

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[QUOTE="Couth_"]This is coming from the guys who don't even make Bad Company for the PC? Infinity Ward should be like them and not make Modern Warfare for the PC at all. Then we would really see some fireworks. It's became a console franchise anyway.InsaneBasura
Did you want Bad Company for PC? I'm under the impression that no one really cared about the lack of its existence. I know I didn't and I'm about as big of a Battlefield fan there is. I consider all these spin-offs and expansions wastes of time. It's good that they're expanding the franchise onto multiple platforms, and for what it is Bad Company is great, but when it comes to PC there's only one thing I care about, and that is proper sequels.

Not at all but by the same token do PC gamers want Modern Warfare 2? I was under the impression that it had become so consolized and it has deviated so far from what Call of Duty began as on the PC, they didn't even want it anymore. Yet their recent revelations have the internet up in arms. MW2 is as much of a console gamers game than Bad Company, at least IW is still bothering to put it on PC. Even though it's technically a spin off their Battlefield franchise, I'm sure there are some PC gamers that would love to have it. Regardless I hope they bring out BF3 asap.
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#44 dolph1073
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I cannot wait to see the sales data for MW2 on PC. Will be interesting to see if I am correct. SpruceCaboose
a pure 100% console port? even in price? yeah....that wont sell amongst the informed gamers then again there are tons of uninformed pc gaemers out there so it will sell a bit
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#45 Enosh88
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And what this PR move does for me is remind me that DICE needs to get all their side projects out of the way so they can focus on BF3 already. That's what most PC gamers would prefer I'm sure.

InsaneBasura

personaly I don't see anything that DICE could add in BF3 that won't already be in BC2...

maybe playable jets, but most people hate those and play on infantry only servers anyway, so...

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I cannot wait to see the sales data for MW2 on PC. Will be interesting to see if I am correct. SpruceCaboose

The problem is, the piracy rate is going to be through the roof and IW/Activision will respond by saying "see! see! look at how little PC gamers care about gaming!" and then stop making PC games, with justification for doing so.

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#47 rolo107
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I almost want to cancel my pre-order of Battlefield BC2... I hate when developers trash other developers like this. It's sickening.
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#48 SLIisaownsystem
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well let hope that they releasing a good BC2 on PC, but what i have seen of the Mirrors Edge port (2 month latter+physx graphics) dont let me doubt it.

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#49 solidgamer
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I cannot wait to see the sales data for MW2 on PC. Will be interesting to see if I am correct. SpruceCaboose
I would not be surprised if MW2 becomes one of the most pirated games on PC this year, Just to give the finger to Activision. This is just outrageous Hike on the price No mods, wanting to charge Players for Maps (which im ok with) and the Europe PC delay. What next force us to play with the 360 controller.
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#50 Enosh88
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]I cannot wait to see the sales data for MW2 on PC. Will be interesting to see if I am correct. solidgamer
I would not be surprised if MW2 becomes one of the most pirated games on PC this year, Just to give the finger to Activision. This is just outrageous Hike on the price No mods, wanting to charge Players for Maps (which im ok with) and the Europe PC delay. What next force us to play with the 360 controller.

MW2 would have been the most pirated game this year anyway...