Did anyone ever switch from Xbox Live to PSN, or vice versa?

I had an xbox 360 first this gen (I got one the month after launch) 20GB model. My first game was Perfect Dark Zero (which turned out to be so-so) and I got COD 2 later (AWESOME GAME). Later on after beating the SP modes a bunch of time I ofcourse wanted to play onine, but I found out that I would have to pay in order to go online with it. I was angry but I sucked it up and for my birthday (I was in highschool at this time) I asked for a Gold subscription for one year instead of a game, I didn't want to do it but I sorta had to and I figured I would get a new game when Hanuckha/Christmas came around.

However then I realised that I would have to get a wifi adapter which at the time was 100$! I couldn't believe it but nonetheless I spent all my hard earned money that I earned over the summer from working to get it. Finally I had xbox live! And it was worth it, at first anyway. Over time I bought more games and kept renewing my xbox live account every birthday until eventually I got a PS3 (I was an adult living on my own at this point).

I was skeptical about PSN, I always bashed it in the past and called it "laggy" and that stuff. But after I played on it I was amazed! It was the SAME thing as xbox live (well aside from a few features) the only thing that bothered me about it was the slower updates, but I could live with that. Soon after my 360 got RROD and it was out of warrenty so I just said "screw it", I rebought the multiplats I wanted to for PS3 and never looked back.

This isn't to say I'm bashing Live or 360 or anything like that. I understand for some people the features of Xbox live are worth paying for, and that's fine because it's their choice. But for me I didn't care or ever really use any of those xbox live features so it wasn't worth it to me. And it's a shame because I spent ALL that money on xbox live!

But with my PS3 I get a Blu Ray player, access to a great and free online network, and alot of exclusives that I had more fun with than I ever did with Halo or Gears ect.. I got more for my money with PS3. But I don't go around bashing other systems or anything, I only have a problem when someone says xbox live or psn is "trash" or one service "destroys" the other. That's simply not true. Same goes for the systems, it's all just a prefrence.

Bottom line: both services are good and neither one is "inferior" to the other. It all comes down to perspective and prefences

This is the 3rd time I've seen you post this exact same message.

I use both.

This is the 3rd time I've seen you post this exact same message.

Lto_thaG

lol I know, but I figured it would be better in an actual thread where people would actually read it instead of just skipping over it. Thought it would get more attention here :P

Same s***, different toilet.

Come on man, there's only so many times you can re-skin a thread, people run out of things to say.

Dude this obsession with PSN vs XBL of yours is becoming a little annoying.

Dude this obsession with PSN vs XBL of yours is becoming a little annoying.

xX0LDSCH00LXx

This is the first thread I made about this in a LONG time. And if you read my OP I clearly state that both are good services... I think you have me confused with someone else.

Started with Xbox Live, bought PS3 and experienced PSN, sold PS3 a year later. Still on Xbox live and PC. Spellingiscool

PC online is amazing, I don't have too many games for it right now though :( .But even if I did I simply don't have the time to play many games anymore, what withcollege and everything.... I wish I did though

I had my xbox first and paid for gold right off the bat, when i finally got my ps3 i tried out psn but tbh there is a difference. IMO games on live provide a more stable connection to play from. Everytime I have ever tried to play resistence 2, mgo and the likes, the online is a laggy mess in comparison to the service that I recieve from live. Both are using a wireless network and are exactly the same difference from the router so there is no other reason as to why this is the case.firebolt53

lol the problem is your internet, it has nothing do with the games or PSN it'self. The online gameplay it'self is the same. No offense, but I don't think you know what your talking about....

[QUOTE="firebolt53"]I had my xbox first and paid for gold right off the bat, when i finally got my ps3 i tried out psn but tbh there is a difference. IMO games on live provide a more stable connection to play from. Everytime I have ever tried to play resistence 2, mgo and the likes, the online is a laggy mess in comparison to the service that I recieve from live. Both are using a wireless network and are exactly the same difference from the router so there is no other reason as to why this is the case.ShadowMoses900

lol the problem is your internet, it has nothing do with the games or PSN it'self. The online gameplay it'self is the same. No offense, but I don't think you know what your talking about....

I used to play on my 360 way more but I haven't touched the thing in about a year. Only like once to make sure it worked. There is pretty much no difference between PSN and XBL besides the fee and party / private chat.

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[QUOTE="firebolt53"]I had my xbox first and paid for gold right off the bat, when i finally got my ps3 i tried out psn but tbh there is a difference. IMO games on live provide a more stable connection to play from. Everytime I have ever tried to play resistence 2, mgo and the likes, the online is a laggy mess in comparison to the service that I recieve from live. Both are using a wireless network and are exactly the same difference from the router so there is no other reason as to why this is the case.JohnF111

lol the problem is your internet, it has nothing do with the games or PSN it'self. The online gameplay it'self is the same. No offense, but I don't think you know what your talking about....

Resistance 2 also runs on well maintained dedicated servers and RARELY lags. Like I said the problem is thate either his PS3 wifi reciever is broken or something is blocking it's signal, or he is lying.

i use both i'm not a console fanboy

[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

lol the problem is your internet, it has nothing do with the games or PSN it'self. The online gameplay it'self is the same. No offense, but I don't think you know what your talking about....

ShadowMoses900

Resistance 2 also runs on well maintained dedicated servers and RARELY lags. Like I said the problem is thate either his PS3 wifi reciever is broken or something is blocking it's signal, or he is lying.

I got both. I was really starting to believe that LIVE was better then PSN until I got the 360 this year and lagged the hell out of BLOPS. Got it on both systems and they both lag like crazy. I just laugh at anyone who actually tries to convince anyone that LIVE lags less. You pay for the bells and whistles, not the game connection itself. With that being said, if LIVE allowed free gameplay and a bells and whistle package on the side, it'll be perfect. Or if PSN had all the features of LIVE as PSN+ and free gameplay then it'll be perfect as well. Too bad both companies are too stupid/arrogant to do it right.

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[QUOTE="JohnF111"] Resistance 2 has 60 player MP remember, not many games go beyond 32 players on a console.JohnF111

Resistance 2 also runs on well maintained dedicated servers and RARELY lags. Like I said the problem is thate either his PS3 wifi reciever is broken or something is blocking it's signal, or he is lying.

Ya anyone who understands networking and how it works can easily tell that anyone who brings up the argument that they get "lag"" more on one srevice than the other is full of BS. Lag depends on you OWN internet connection, the HOSTS internet connection. That's it. Well game net code also plays a role aswell (reason why Gears 2 lags) and if the game is on a dedicated server or just p2p.

But the main thing that causes lag and disconnects is your internet connection and the hosts internet connection. That's the main thing...

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="firebolt53"]I had my xbox first and paid for gold right off the bat, when i finally got my ps3 i tried out psn but tbh there is a difference. IMO games on live provide a more stable connection to play from. Everytime I have ever tried to play resistence 2, mgo and the likes, the online is a laggy mess in comparison to the service that I recieve from live. Both are using a wireless network and are exactly the same difference from the router so there is no other reason as to why this is the case.JohnF111

lol the problem is your internet, it has nothing do with the games or PSN it'self. The online gameplay it'self is the same. No offense, but I don't think you know what your talking about....

I use both, but at one time I switched from Live to PSN. Now I probably use Live more than PSN. Honestly for online multi-player they both work about the same, but I think Live has more features I prefer to use.

when making my transition, the biggest thing I missed was the party chat. To me, that's huge.

I've used both from the beginning and have a decent sized friends list on both.

My online time is spent on Xbox Live because it has features that I use on a regular basis like the party system and cross game invites, both of which are available at the OS level. No need to launch separate apps or worry if a game doesnt' support it. There's also some behind-the-scenes things going on that I appreciate as a parent like their push to educate legislators and parents about online gaming and their active policy enforcement staff.

Those are enough for me to stay with XBL Gold.

For some reason, maybe it's the xmedia bar layout, but there's a wierd disconnect between me and the larger community. Playing on the PS3 still feels largely like a solitary experience. Maybe it's just me. I haven't quite put my finger on it.

[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

lol the problem is your internet, it has nothing do with the games or PSN it'self. The online gameplay it'self is the same. No offense, but I don't think you know what your talking about....

ShadowMoses900

Resistance 2 also runs on well maintained dedicated servers and RARELY lags. Like I said the problem is thate either his PS3 wifi reciever is broken or something is blocking it's signal, or he is lying.

I had Xbox live since release of 360, I then tried PSN out in 2007 and it sucked balls so I went back to Xbox live. PSN is nowhere like XBL IMO. XBox live is very worth the $60 price tag.

[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

lol the problem is your internet, it has nothing do with the games or PSN it'self. The online gameplay it'self is the same. No offense, but I don't think you know what your talking about....

ShadowMoses900

Resistance 2 also runs on well maintained dedicated servers and RARELY lags. Like I said the problem is thate either his PS3 wifi reciever is broken or something is blocking it's signal, or he is lying.

I have both, but use my ps3 a lot more. I also prefer psn to xbox live. To me, I prefer the slowness of psn to the glitchyness of live.

I have both, but use my ps3 a lot more. I also prefer psn to xbox live. To me, I prefer the slowness of psn to the glitchyness of live.

mysticstryk

Xbox live is glitchy? :lol:

This has to be so biased.

[QUOTE="mysticstryk"]

I have both, but use my ps3 a lot more. I also prefer psn to xbox live. To me, I prefer the slowness of psn to the glitchyness of live.

shahilsyed

Xbox live is glitchy? :lol:

This has to be so biased.

Perhaps you are the one who is biased. It does lag and glitch when moving through menus and the like. I'm not gonna apologize for liking one service over another. Laughing at someone else because you don't agree with them tells me one of two things. Your either a child, or biased.

[QUOTE="shahilsyed"]

[QUOTE="mysticstryk"]

I have both, but use my ps3 a lot more. I also prefer psn to xbox live. To me, I prefer the slowness of psn to the glitchyness of live.

mysticstryk

Xbox live is glitchy? :lol:

This has to be so biased.

Perhaps you are the one who is biased. It does lag and glitch when moving through menus and the like. I'm not gonna apologize for liking one service over another. Laughing at someone else because you don't agree with them tells me one of two things. Your either a child, or biased.

[QUOTE="mysticstryk"]

[QUOTE="shahilsyed"]

Xbox live is glitchy? :lol:

This has to be so biased.

shahilsyed

Perhaps you are the one who is biased. It does lag and glitch when moving through menus and the like. I'm not gonna apologize for liking one service over another. Laughing at someone else because you don't agree with them tells me one of two things. Your either a child, or biased.

No its not connection. But anyways, we all have our opinions.

[QUOTE="shahilsyed"][QUOTE="mysticstryk"]

Perhaps you are the one who is biased. It does lag and glitch when moving through menus and the like. I'm not gonna apologize for liking one service over another. Laughing at someone else because you don't agree with them tells me one of two things. Your either a child, or biased.

mysticstryk

No its not connection. But anyways, we all have our opinions.

[QUOTE="shahilsyed"][QUOTE="mysticstryk"]

Perhaps you are the one who is biased. It does lag and glitch when moving through menus and the like. I'm not gonna apologize for liking one service over another. Laughing at someone else because you don't agree with them tells me one of two things. Your either a child, or biased.

mysticstryk

No its not connection. But anyways, we all have our opinions.

I was angry but I sucked it up and for my birthday (I was in highschool at this time) I asked for a Gold subscription for one year instead of a game,

ShadowMoses900

Damn I feel for you man

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I was angry but I sucked it up and for my birthday (I was in highschool at this time) I asked for a Gold subscription for one year instead of a game,

Ironbash

Damn I feel for you man

Yeah it was pretty bad but I didn't really have a choice you know? Sure you don't HAVE to get xbox gold, but let's be serious here, you kinda are forced to. You want to play online with friends right? You want to experience Halo online or your other MP games right? Well you have to pay up.

This isn't to say that I think Live is a bad service or anything like that, it's a good service and has some nice features that (some) people enjoy and find worth paying for. But the principle it'self for paying to play online doesn't make sense, there really isn't a reason for MS to charge for online MP. There is no reason at all...

This is why I like PSN more, I can get my game and be able to have FULL access to it, no one is taking away half my game and holding it hostage. I can just buy my game and go online with it an play with friends, and that's all I really want. Some people need those extra features that Live provides but I don't care about that stuff at all.

Wow you love XBL Vs. PSN huh TC?

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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I was angry but I sucked it up and for my birthday (I was in highschool at this time) I asked for a Gold subscription for one year instead of a game,

ShadowMoses900

Damn I feel for you man

Yeah it was pretty bad but I didn't really have a choice you know? Sure you don't HAVE to get xbox gold, but let's be serious here, you kinda are forced to. You want to play online with friends right? You want to experience Halo online or your other MP games right? Well you have to pay up.

This isn't to say that I think Live is a bad service or anything like that, it's a good service and has some nice features that (some) people enjoy and find worth paying for. But the principle it'self for paying to play online doesn't make sense, there really isn't a reason for MS to charge for online MP. There is no reason at all...

This is why I like PSN more, I can get my game and be able to have FULL access to it, no one is taking away half my game and holding it hostage. I can just buy my game and go online with it an play with friends, and that's all I really want. Some people need those extra features that Live provides but I don't care about that stuff at all.

Its just that you had to choose 1, my parents just bought XBL as mandatory every year without counting it like a game. Man in younger situations I guess XBL sucks in terms of pricing for use. But it does have benefits like arcade game demo trials, infinite downloads , cross game chat, acheivement linking, ESPN 2.0, cross game party etc.

[QUOTE="xX0LDSCH00LXx"]

Dude this obsession with PSN vs XBL of yours is becoming a little annoying.

ShadowMoses900

This is the first thread I made about this in a LONG time. And if you read my OP I clearly state that both are good services... I think you have me confused with someone else.

...You said that psn was laggy without actually ever playing on it?

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Ironbash"]

Damn I feel for you man

Ironbash

Yeah it was pretty bad but I didn't really have a choice you know? Sure you don't HAVE to get xbox gold, but let's be serious here, you kinda are forced to. You want to play online with friends right? You want to experience Halo online or your other MP games right? Well you have to pay up.

This isn't to say that I think Live is a bad service or anything like that, it's a good service and has some nice features that (some) people enjoy and find worth paying for. But the principle it'self for paying to play online doesn't make sense, there really isn't a reason for MS to charge for online MP. There is no reason at all...

This is why I like PSN more, I can get my game and be able to have FULL access to it, no one is taking away half my game and holding it hostage. I can just buy my game and go online with it an play with friends, and that's all I really want. Some people need those extra features that Live provides but I don't care about that stuff at all.

Its just that you had to choose 1, my parents just bought XBL as mandatory every year without counting it like a game. Man in younger situations I guess XBL sucks in terms of pricing for use. But it does have benefits like arcade game demo trials, infinite downloads , cross game chat, acheivement linking, ESPN 2.0, cross game party etc.

Agreed, I'm an adult college student now so I could afford xbox live if I wanted to. But I don't see the value in it, I realise some people do though and that's OK. But for me personally I don't care about arcade demo's, Cross Chat, ESPN or any of that stuff. It feels like just extra "fluff" IMO.

The only thing I miss about xbox live are the faster updates, but that isn't worth 60$ IMO. And I didn't ever use cross chat much when I had xbox live either, once in awhile it was fun chatting with a few buddies, but after awhile I would get annoyed. Especially when I was playing a SP game like Oblivion or Mass Effect ect..

I just personally didn't enjoy those features.

[QUOTE="Ironbash"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I was angry but I sucked it up and for my birthday (I was in highschool at this time) I asked for a Gold subscription for one year instead of a game,

ShadowMoses900

Damn I feel for you man

Yeah it was pretty bad but I didn't really have a choice you know? Sure you don't HAVE to get xbox gold, but let's be serious here, you kinda are forced to. You want to play online with friends right? You want to experience Halo online or your other MP games right? Well you have to pay up.

This isn't to say that I think Live is a bad service or anything like that, it's a good service and has some nice features that (some) people enjoy and find worth paying for. But the principle it'self for paying to play online doesn't make sense, there really isn't a reason for MS to charge for online MP. There is no reason at all...

This is why I like PSN more, I can get my game and be able to have FULL access to it, no one is taking away half my game and holding it hostage. I can just buy my game and go online with it an play with friends, and that's all I really want. Some people need those extra features that Live provides but I don't care about that stuff at all.

I don't buy the "I am forced to pay" or "holding half the game hostage" argument. No one's forcing anything. It's all optional. Heck, videogaming is optional.

Sure your friends have XBL, but obviously, they have PSN as well....so what's being forced here? You very clearly have a choice.

You and/or your parents had a choice with other platforms. You knew what playing online would entail. It's on the console box. It's on every single game box. It's on all print ads. The whole time, there was a choice to get the console at all, it being abundantly clear what the Xbox Live and the competition is all about. Where's the disconnect here? Did the fee somehow come as a surprise after the console was bought and paid for? I don't get it.

As for the reasons to pay for XBL, you said it yourself "it's a good service and has some nice features that (some) people enjoy and find worth paying for". When you get a little older, you'll realize that the principle of a thing has to be measured against reality. The reality is... well, exactly what I quoted from you.

If you don't care about XBL features, then maybe PSN is a better fit for you. For others, XBL is the better fit.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Ironbash"]

Damn I feel for you man

VoodooHak

Yeah it was pretty bad but I didn't really have a choice you know? Sure you don't HAVE to get xbox gold, but let's be serious here, you kinda are forced to. You want to play online with friends right? You want to experience Halo online or your other MP games right? Well you have to pay up.

This isn't to say that I think Live is a bad service or anything like that, it's a good service and has some nice features that (some) people enjoy and find worth paying for. But the principle it'self for paying to play online doesn't make sense, there really isn't a reason for MS to charge for online MP. There is no reason at all...

This is why I like PSN more, I can get my game and be able to have FULL access to it, no one is taking away half my game and holding it hostage. I can just buy my game and go online with it an play with friends, and that's all I really want. Some people need those extra features that Live provides but I don't care about that stuff at all.

I don't buy the "I am forced to pay" or "holding half the game hostage" argument. No one's forcing anything. It's all optional. Heck, videogaming is optional.

Sure your friends have XBL, but obviously, they have PSN as well....so what's being forced here? You very clearly have a choice.

You and/or your parents had a choice with other platforms. You knew what playing online would entail. It's on the console box. It's on every single game box. It's on all print ads. The whole time, there was a choice to get the console at all, it being abundantly clear what the Xbox Live and the competition is all about. Where's the disconnect here? Did the fee somehow come as a surprise after the console was bought and paid for? I don't get it.

As for the reasons to pay for XBL, you said it yourself "it's a good service and has some nice features that (some) people enjoy and find worth paying for". When you get a little older, you'll realize that the principle of a thing has to be measured against reality. The reality is... well, exactly what I quoted from you.

If you don't care about XBL features, then maybe PSN is a better fit for you. For others, XBL is the better fit.

He didnt have a choice, back in 2005 the ps3 was still 2 years away so he had to buy it.

Agreed, I'm an adult college student now so I could afford xbox live if I wanted to. But I don't see the value in it, I realise some people do though and that's OK. But for me personally I don't care about arcade demo's, Cross Chat, ESPN or any of that stuff. It feels like just extra "fluff" IMO.

The only thing I miss about xbox live are the faster updates, but that isn't worth 60$ IMO. And I didn't ever use cross chat much when I had xbox live either, once in awhile it was fun chatting with a few buddies, but after awhile I would get annoyed. Especially when I was playing a SP game like Oblivion or Mass Effect ect..

I just personally didn't enjoy those features.

ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Agreed, I'm an adult college student now so I could afford xbox live if I wanted to. But I don't see the value in it, I realise some people do though and that's OK. But for me personally I don't care about arcade demo's, Cross Chat, ESPN or any of that stuff. It feels like just extra "fluff" IMO.

The only thing I miss about xbox live are the faster updates, but that isn't worth 60$ IMO. And I didn't ever use cross chat much when I had xbox live either, once in awhile it was fun chatting with a few buddies, but after awhile I would get annoyed. Especially when I was playing a SP game like Oblivion or Mass Effect ect..

I just personally didn't enjoy those features.

cain006

I know there are chaper options, but I don't care. Nothing about Xbox Live is worth paying for IMO. If it is for you and others than that's perfectly fine, but I don't see the real value in it. PSN is prefect for my online console needs.

I know there are chaper options, but I don't care. Nothing about Xbox Live is worth paying for IMO. If it is for you and others than that's perfectly fine, but I don't see the real value in it. PSN is prefect for my online console needs.

ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Ironbash"]

Damn I feel for you man

VoodooHak

Yeah it was pretty bad but I didn't really have a choice you know? Sure you don't HAVE to get xbox gold, but let's be serious here, you kinda are forced to. You want to play online with friends right? You want to experience Halo online or your other MP games right? Well you have to pay up.

This isn't to say that I think Live is a bad service or anything like that, it's a good service and has some nice features that (some) people enjoy and find worth paying for. But the principle it'self for paying to play online doesn't make sense, there really isn't a reason for MS to charge for online MP. There is no reason at all...

This is why I like PSN more, I can get my game and be able to have FULL access to it, no one is taking away half my game and holding it hostage. I can just buy my game and go online with it an play with friends, and that's all I really want. Some people need those extra features that Live provides but I don't care about that stuff at all.

I don't buy the "I am forced to pay" or "holding half the game hostage" argument. No one's forcing anything. It's all optional. Heck, videogaming is optional.

Sure your friends have XBL, but obviously, they have PSN as well....so what's being forced here? You very clearly have a choice.

You and/or your parents had a choice with other platforms. You knew what playing online would entail. It's on the console box. It's on every single game box. It's on all print ads. The whole time, there was a choice to get the console at all, it being abundantly clear what the Xbox Live and the competition is all about. Where's the disconnect here? Did the fee somehow come as a surprise after the console was bought and paid for? I don't get it.

As for the reasons to pay for XBL, you said it yourself "it's a good service and has some nice features that (some) people enjoy and find worth paying for". When you get a little older, you'll realize that the principle of a thing has to be measured against reality. The reality is... well, exactly what I quoted from you.

If you don't care about XBL features, then maybe PSN is a better fit for you. For others, XBL is the better fit.

I was forced to pay it, let's face the facts here. No one buys Halo for the campaign, no one buys COD or alot of other games for the SP expreience. They buy it because of the MP. And in order to access that feature that is ALREADY on the disc you bought, you have to pay again to access it. There is no way around this...they took a part of your game that you paid forand locked a feature out, forcing you to pay again.

Again I'm not calling XBL a bad service or anything, I can understand if some people like it better than PSN (not Steam though) as they like the features of Live and the way it's maintained better (with updates being faster ect..) But I don't care about any of that. At that age I didn't have a "choice", I couldn't "choose" for myself. I got the system that my parents bought me for Hanuckah/Christmas (My fatheris Jewish, my mother christian) so I got stuck with a 360. I didn't get any say in what system I wanted, but I was happy with 360 until Igot a PS3. Not saying it's "better" or anything but it's just more suited to my tastes...

As an adult I can make my own decisions, but when I was a kid not so much...