Did DICE just take the Graphics Crown away from Crytek?

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#1 Xtasy26
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvj7GMhZxC8

PC's WASD icon at 1:53. :) Finally a developer who is not afraid to show PC footage as their primary instead of hiding behind the crappier console version. Never figured out what the hell Crytek was smoking with all these 360 footage they were showing initially for Crysis 2. But whatever they were smoking it was quite strong. I mean why the hell would you be showing a crappier version instead of your best version when you are demonstrating your product? Would you show your friends your used Toyota Corrola or your Lamborghini if owned one?

It's seems like Crytek went from selling exotic cars like Ferraris and Lamborghini to a used car dealer peddling crappier used cars instead of top of the line Ferraris and Lamborghinis. While DICE is the "new" dealer in town for Lamborghinis and Ferraris.

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#2 NaveedLife
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No doubt, although I want to see some MP footage.

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#3 tagyhag
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Seems like it, looks like they're not willing to bend over to consoles like Crytek is.
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#4 Sollet
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It's looking like it, but who knows :)
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#5 i5750at4Ghz
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Crysis and BF3 look about the same in screen caps. But in motion BF3 just looks far more organic. The animation are what make BF3 the better looking game imo.
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#6 tomarlyn
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I'd like to see more variety in the environments first.
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I really wanna see how the engine can handle 64 players in a big map, destruction and vehicles.

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#8 mitu123
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Yes, Crysis has been owned by an unfinished build.=p
I'd like to see more variety in the environments first.tomarlyn
If the previous BF were to go by we'll see jungles, snow, deserts and more. Plus they say you are going across the globe.
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Crysis and BF3 look about the same in screen caps. But in motion BF3 just looks far more organic. The animation are what make BF3 the better looking game imo.i5750at4Ghz

Damn those graphics sure are AMAZING. One of the best on PC. Will it beat Crysis/ Metro 2033? Probably not :P


But we can hope the game actually turns out like that..

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#10 Sollet
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Crysis and BF3 look about the same in screen caps. But in motion BF3 just looks far more organic. The animation are what make BF3 the better looking game imo.Mozelleple112
It won't look ANYWHERE NEAR as good as these gifs like your sig ... :P

lol wut have you not seen gameplay videos of BF3 (PC)?
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Crysis and BF3 look about the same in screen caps. But in motion BF3 just looks far more organic. The animation are what make BF3 the better looking game imo.Sollet
It won't look ANYWHERE NEAR as good as these gifs like your sig ... :P

lol wut have you not seen gameplay videos of BF3 (PC)?

I edited my post after I saw the video... The gif in the persons sig looks a lot like CGI. The gameplay vid looks absolutely incredible, though not quite the quality of that gif. Could be youtube.. but the textures did not have that super-high res. I noticed, out of 18 people I am the ONLY one who said Crytek is still the top dog...
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#12 Sollet
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="Sollet"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] It won't look ANYWHERE NEAR as good as these gifs like your sig ... :P

lol wut have you not seen gameplay videos of BF3 (PC)?

I edited my post after I saw the video... The gif in the persons sig looks a lot like CGI. The gameplay vid looks absolutely incredible, though not quite the quality of that gif. Could be youtube.. but the textures did not have that super-high res. I noticed, out of 18 people I am the ONLY one who said Crytek is still the top dog...

It's like you said youtube and also it's unfinished.
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[QUOTE="Sollet"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="Sollet"] lol wut have you not seen gameplay videos of BF3 (PC)?

I edited my post after I saw the video... The gif in the persons sig looks a lot like CGI. The gameplay vid looks absolutely incredible, though not quite the quality of that gif. Could be youtube.. but the textures did not have that super-high res. I noticed, out of 18 people I am the ONLY one who said Crytek is still the top dog...

It's like you said youtube and also it's unfinished.

But perhaps Dice is using a 4 way GTX 580 2560x1600 build running 30 fps? and when the game comes out they gimp the settings so that people with 1 gtx 580 can max it out... Being on PC =/= looking as good as a developer shows it off to be. The infamous "Crysis-killer" has come at least twice a year since 2007.. but they've all failed...
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="Sollet"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] I edited my post after I saw the video... The gif in the persons sig looks a lot like CGI. The gameplay vid looks absolutely incredible, though not quite the quality of that gif. Could be youtube.. but the textures did not have that super-high res. I noticed, out of 18 people I am the ONLY one who said Crytek is still the top dog...

It's like you said youtube and also it's unfinished.

But perhaps Dice is using a 4 way GTX 580 2560x1600 build running 30 fps? and when the game comes out they gimp the settings so that people with 1 gtx 580 can max it out... Being on PC =/= looking as good as a developer shows it off to be. The infamous "Crysis-killer" has come at least twice a year since 2007.. but they've all failed...

Trust me this looks better than Crysis unmodded - Modded Crysis may look better than this - but I can add that this game will most likely also support mods so yeaaah.
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[QUOTE="Sollet"][QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] I edited my post after I saw the video... The gif in the persons sig looks a lot like CGI. The gameplay vid looks absolutely incredible, though not quite the quality of that gif. Could be youtube.. but the textures did not have that super-high res. I noticed, out of 18 people I am the ONLY one who said Crytek is still the top dog...Mozelleple112
It's like you said youtube and also it's unfinished.

But perhaps Dice is using a 4 way GTX 580 2560x1600 build running 30 fps? and when the game comes out they gimp the settings so that people with 1 gtx 580 can max it out... Being on PC =/= looking as good as a developer shows it off to be. The infamous "Crysis-killer" has come at least twice a year since 2007.. but they've all failed...

Metro didn't fail. It just didn't support mods. Stock it does beat Crysis but the community is still split on that.

The video wasn't the greatest quality. It looks just as good as the gifs if not better. The GIFs and video were real time. If they were CGI then DICE is really bad at CGI.

Dice didn't just take the graphics crown from Crysis. They f'ing sparta kicked Nomad off the throne.

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No doubt, although I want to see some MP footage.

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Isn't Battlefield a MP game? Will it have a campaign?
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

No doubt, although I want to see some MP footage.

Zero_epyon

Isn't Battlefield a MP game? Will it have a campaign?

That WAS campaign. They have co-op campaign and MP. MP is obviously the reason to buy it though and always has been.

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yes that is the best looking game I have ever seen no doubt

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I'll wait until I see the final retail release of Crysis 2 PC completely maxed out with DX11 before I comment. It definitely surpasses Crysis 1s graphics though.
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I'll wait until I see the final retail release of Crysis 2 PC completely maxed out with DX11 before I comment. It definitely surpasses Crysis 1s graphics though.DreamCryotank

Well you'll have to wait a long time because DX11 isn't included with Crysis 2's launch. Crytek failed PC gamers and was forced to please the console market.

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[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"]I'll wait until I see the final retail release of Crysis 2 PC completely maxed out with DX11 before I comment. It definitely surpasses Crysis 1s graphics though.ChubbyGuy40

Well you'll have to wait a long time because DX11 isn't included with Crysis 2's launch. Crytek failed PC gamers and was forced to please the console market.

I think that Crytek failed big time. It doesn't play well on consoles, they disappointed PC gamers. It's gonna get 8.0-8.5 reviews, i doubt those money they poured into the engine and the game are gonna come back.
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We should wait until we see Crysis 2 campaign, shouldn't we? But yeah, there's no denying this game looks amazing.
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#23 glez13
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No doubt, although I want to see some MP footage.

NaveedLife

This. Who cares about SP in a battlefield game. Show us the real thing, the multiplayer.

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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

No doubt, although I want to see some MP footage.

glez13

This. Who cares about SP in a battlefield game. Show us the real thing, the multiplayer.

Screw showing a video of the MP.

Release a demo!

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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

No doubt, although I want to see some MP footage.

glez13

This. Who cares about SP in a battlefield game. Show us the real thing, the multiplayer.

Seeing how it's built for PC, I think the multiplayer will look about as good as the single player.
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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"]I'll wait until I see the final retail release of Crysis 2 PC completely maxed out with DX11 before I comment. It definitely surpasses Crysis 1s graphics though.GeneralShowzer

Well you'll have to wait a long time because DX11 isn't included with Crysis 2's launch. Crytek failed PC gamers and was forced to please the console market.

I think that Crytek failed big time. It doesn't play well on consoles, they disappointed PC gamers. It's gonna get 8.0-8.5 reviews, i doubt those money they poured into the engine and the game are gonna come back.

CoD gamers will eat just about anything though so it might sell well. I'd like it to sell worse than Crysis and Warhead did but that'd be bad for Crytek. I'd like them to make Crysis 3 and pay attention to PC this time.

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#27 mitu123
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[QUOTE="glez13"]

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

No doubt, although I want to see some MP footage.

ChubbyGuy40

This. Who cares about SP in a battlefield game. Show us the real thing, the multiplayer.

Screw showing a video of the MP.

Release a demo!

It will come, though some lucky guy did a 20 minute demo of it and saw jets...

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It sure llooks like it. Especially the illumination in their engine is just amazing.

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Yes, Crysis has been owned by an unfinished build.=p [QUOTE="tomarlyn"]I'd like to see more variety in the environments first.mitu123
If the previous BF were to go by we'll see jungles, snow, deserts and more. Plus they say you are going across the globe.

Crysis obviously has jaw dropping jungle and ice environments, it will take a lot to beat. Thing is Cysis had the benefit of being built specifically around those two environments so we'll see.
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It sure as hell looks like Crytek might be in trouble.
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Crysis only looked good in jungles. Bring the game to cities and it won't be as good. (Crysis 2)

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Crysis only looked good in jungles. Bring the game to cities and it won't be as good. (Crysis 2)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX6-8bAKhYI That video disagrees. Too bad the consoles ruined what could have been....
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[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

Crysis only looked good in jungles. Bring the game to cities and it won't be as good. (Crysis 2)

DreamCryotank
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX6-8bAKhYI That video disagrees. Too bad the consoles ruined what could have been....

Please crysis 2 looks great in the city. All the hate is unwarranted.
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DICE has stomped everything in the graphics market, everything... no game till this has looked this realistic Crytek = Fetal position
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Well you'll have to wait a long time because DX11 isn't included with Crysis 2's launch. Crytek failed PC gamers and was forced to please the console market.

i5750at4Ghz

I think that Crytek failed big time. It doesn't play well on consoles, they disappointed PC gamers. It's gonna get 8.0-8.5 reviews, i doubt those money they poured into the engine and the game are gonna come back.

I think you fail.

Basing your entire opinion of the game on limited multiplayer demos.

FYI the single player is fantastic.

Please don't resort to petty insults. We've all seen just how consolised this game is. Crytek lied to our face how this game "Will blow everything away graphically " and "Be a true PC game".

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So far I believe they have. I also believe BF3 is the second DX11 native PC game... crysis 2 isn't even DX11 native.

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#38 GeneralShowzer
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So far I believe they have. I also believe BF3 is the second DX11 native PC game... crysis 2 isn't even DX11 native.

Espada12
What's the first, for information? And yes, they are going to patch DX11 in, sounds tacked on. Like something Nvidia forced them to do to sell cards.
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[QUOTE="DreamCryotank"][QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

Crysis only looked good in jungles. Bring the game to cities and it won't be as good. (Crysis 2)

i5750at4Ghz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX6-8bAKhYI That video disagrees. Too bad the consoles ruined what could have been....

Please crysis 2 looks great in the city. All the hate is unwarranted.

I'm not hating. I personally think Crysis 2 looks fantastic, and certainly better than Crysis 1 when it comes to design, and atmosphere. But it could have been better, there's no denying that.
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#40 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] I think that Crytek failed big time. It doesn't play well on consoles, they disappointed PC gamers. It's gonna get 8.0-8.5 reviews, i doubt those money they poured into the engine and the game are gonna come back.GeneralShowzer

I think you fail.

Basing your entire opinion of the game on limited multiplayer demos.

FYI the single player is fantastic.

Please don't resort to petty insults. We've all seen just how consolised this game is. Crytek lied to our face how this game "Will blow everything away graphically " and "Be a true PC game".

And it is all those things. Consolised is a baseless term. A great game is a great game regardless of platform. None of the complaits about Crysis 2 have anything at all to do with actual gameplay. You guys treat the game like it's a benchmark.
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#41 i5750at4Ghz
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So far I believe they have. I also believe BF3 is the second DX11 native PC game... crysis 2 isn't even DX11 native.

Espada12
I think it's the first DX11 native. All the rest are DX10 native. Could be wrong.
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

So far I believe they have. I also believe BF3 is the second DX11 native PC game... crysis 2 isn't even DX11 native.

GeneralShowzer

What's the first, for information? And yes, they are going to patch DX11 in, sounds tacked on. Like something Nvidia forced them to do to sell cards.

I think the first was Civ5.. could be wrong though haha.

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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] I think you fail.

Basing your entire opinion of the game on limited multiplayer demos.

FYI the single player is fantastic.

i5750at4Ghz

Please don't resort to petty insults. We've all seen just how consolised this game is. Crytek lied to our face how this game "Will blow everything away graphically " and "Be a true PC game".

And it is all those things. Consolised is a baseless term. A great game is a great game regardless of platform. None of the complaits about Crysis 2 have anything at all to do with actual gameplay. You guys treat the game like it's a benchmark.

Isn't the game a corridor shooter now? That is the impression i get.

Not to mention the graphics (in the demo) have a very "console" feel; not sharp and precise like a PC.

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#44 mitu123
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

So far I believe they have. I also believe BF3 is the second DX11 native PC game... crysis 2 isn't even DX11 native.

Espada12

What's the first, for information? And yes, they are going to patch DX11 in, sounds tacked on. Like something Nvidia forced them to do to sell cards.

I think the first was Civ5.. could be wrong though haha.

List of games in DX11.

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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Please don't resort to petty insults. We've all seen just how consolised this game is. Crytek lied to our face how this game "Will blow everything away graphically " and "Be a true PC game".

haberman13

And it is all those things. Consolised is a baseless term. A great game is a great game regardless of platform. None of the complaits about Crysis 2 have anything at all to do with actual gameplay. You guys treat the game like it's a benchmark.

Isn't the game a corridor shooter now? That is the impression i get.

Not to mention the graphics (in the demo) have a very "console" feel; not sharp and precise like a PC.

Not even close if anything you have more options and more terrain to play with. Again I have no clue what you mean by a console feel. Games are games.
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#46 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] I think you fail.

Basing your entire opinion of the game on limited multiplayer demos.

FYI the single player is fantastic.

i5750at4Ghz

Please don't resort to petty insults. We've all seen just how consolised this game is. Crytek lied to our face how this game "Will blow everything away graphically " and "Be a true PC game".

And it is all those things. Consolised is a baseless term. A great game is a great game regardless of platform. None of the complaits about Crysis 2 have anything at all to do with actual gameplay. You guys treat the game like it's a benchmark.

Well, it was a benchmark among being one of the best shooter of the generation. The jump from 2007 and 2011 is not really a jump. It's a step back. The destruction is toned down, the environments are smaller, the game is more restricted. There isn't even a dynamic skyline or other things. The water looks terrible. Crysis had amazing water. And they said that this won't happen. This game doesn't look like anything special. It's just a big step back. Filled with horrible post-processing effects and bloom. And yes it's consolised. The FOV, limited graphical settings, some of the control don't really work, the nano-suit is gimped, the menus, the UI. You can just see this kind of stuff.
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#47 Xtasy26
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] I think you fail.

Basing your entire opinion of the game on limited multiplayer demos.

FYI the single player is fantastic.

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Please don't resort to petty insults. We've all seen just how consolised this game is. Crytek lied to our face how this game "Will blow everything away graphically " and "Be a true PC game".

And it is all those things. Consolised is a baseless term. A great game is a great game regardless of platform. None of the complaits about Crysis 2 have anything at all to do with actual gameplay. You guys treat the game like it's a benchmark.

And what is wrong with expecting Crytek to raise the graphical bar once again like they did with Crysis 1. There has been at least 3 generations of GPUs that have come out since 2007 when Crysis was released. Not to mention most people have even more RAM typically 4GB. So, why not take FULL ADVANTAGE of these two to make a game that is mindblowing like Crysis 1 was? This is why PC gamers feel let down. The bar hasn't been raised like Crysis 1 did.

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#48 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Please don't resort to petty insults. We've all seen just how consolised this game is. Crytek lied to our face how this game "Will blow everything away graphically " and "Be a true PC game".

Xtasy26

And it is all those things. Consolised is a baseless term. A great game is a great game regardless of platform. None of the complaits about Crysis 2 have anything at all to do with actual gameplay. You guys treat the game like it's a benchmark.

And what is wrong with expecting Crytek to raise the graphical bar once again like they did with Crysis 1. There has been at least 3 generations of GPUs that have come out since 2007 when Crysis was released. Not to mention most people have even more RAM typically 4GB. So, why not take FULL ADVANTAGE of these two to make a game that is mindblowing like Crysis 1 was? This is why PC gamers feel let down. The bar hasn't been raised like Crysis 1 did.

It's a big step back too. That's the biggest let down.
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] And it is all those things. Consolised is a baseless term. A great game is a great game regardless of platform. None of the complaits about Crysis 2 have anything at all to do with actual gameplay. You guys treat the game like it's a benchmark. GeneralShowzer
Well, it was a benchmark among being one of the best shooter of the generation. The jump from 2007 and 2011 is not really a jump. It's a step back. The destruction is toned down, the environments are smaller, the game is more restricted. There isn't even a dynamic skyline or other things. The water looks terrible. Crysis had amazing water. And they said that this won't happen. This game doesn't look like anything special. It's just a big step back. Filled with horrible post-processing effects and bloom. And yes it's consolised. The FOV, limited graphical settings, some of the control don't really work, the nano-suit is gimped, the menus, the UI. You can just see this kind of stuff.

And it is all those things. Consolised is a baseless term. A great game is a great game regardless of platform. None of the complaits about Crysis 2 have anything at all to do with actual gameplay. You guys treat the game like it's a benchmark.




Again you didn't name one thing concering the gameplay. I don't care if it looked like a ps2 game. The game is freaking great. The single player is improved in almost everyway. The soundtrack and the way they use it alone made the experence wonderful. The gun play is much improved, as is the AI. No more EZ mode stealth. The AI knows what power you're using and reacts acordingly. The cover system is great. You have complete freedom of movemel in all four directions.

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#50 KHAndAnime
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DICE really managed to earn my respect. Disregarding BF3, they have the best recent multiplayer shooter on the PC.