Did Sony win this Gen or what?

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#51 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="Jone_Z"]judging purely from a games perspective. MLB The Show 09 GOTY.mythrol
The 360 has more AAAe, AAe, Ae. So No.

it does? 360 has almost no AAAe at all halo 3 gears 2 and forza 3 i think is all
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#52 S3P4eeever
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its winning, it takes time to win a generation and sony is good at it

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#53 Jone_Z
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its winning, it takes time to win a generation and sony is good at it

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most insightful thing ive read all thread long
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#54 Silverbond
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Nope. The Wii's winning in sales. The PC is winning in games. No one could come up with an argument saying Sony won. Furthermore, this gen isn't over yet.

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#55 randomwiiplayer
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Or what.

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#56 JuarN18
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it does? 360 has almost no AAAe at all halo 3 gears 2 and forza 3 i think is allshadow_hosi

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pc5oLqpenpT78W87pMfgvBA&gid=1

yes, it does

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judging purely from a games perspective. MLB The Show 09 GOTY.Jone_Z

nintendo won

they sold 1,000,000,000,000 ds and wiis

they always win:P

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#58 oblivionboar
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1 more year and we will know but 2010 is the ps3 year for the 3rd straight

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#59 farnham
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Exclusives: Playstation 3

Library: 360

Sales: Wii

WadeFan
exclusives (almost every wii game is an exclusive) library (because of virtual console) and sales (look at the numbers) -> wii the wii is the leader and there is no fanboy logic that will defy that fact
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#60 get-ka12
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How I see it: N64/PS1 = tie Xbox/PS2/GC = PS2 DS/PSP = DS PS3/360/Wii = PS3 PS3 started out weak, but is pretty much on a steamroller right now.
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#61 xsalvioutlawx
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I've noticed a trend with PS3 exclusives. Great graphics, good single player, terrible online. Thus the games end up having hardly any replay value which leads to threads like "Remember Killzone 2?"

All that's left to boast about is the graphics, but really...After everyone on my friends list beat Uncharted 2, nobody plays it anymore, including myself. I might make another pass through crushing difficulty, but besides that, there's nothing to come back for, just like Killzone 2.

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#62 qewrewq
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[QUOTE="WadeFan"]

Exclusives: Playstation 3

Library: 360

Sales: Wii

farnham

exclusives (almost every wii game is an exclusive) library (because of virtual console) and sales (look at the numbers) -> wii the wii is the leader and there is no fanboy logic that will defy that fact

Thanks for the laugh, no really, thanks.

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#63 get-ka12
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[QUOTE="WadeFan"]

Exclusives: Playstation 3

Library: 360

Sales: Wii

farnham

exclusives (almost every wii game is an exclusive) library (because of virtual console) and sales (look at the numbers) -> wii the wii is the leader and there is no fanboy logic that will defy that fact

You want to count Virtual Console as an exclusive?

Technically, those are from other generations ported to the Wii.

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#64 RadecSupreme
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If I were to argue which platform won this generation PS3 wouldn't be at the top of the list. People forget, the PS3 has been at 3rd place for the majority of this generation and has only recently started being taken seriously because of Sony's efforts to push it forward at any cost. They have install base to catch up on and have yet to make an actual profit.

PS3 has to maintain its current activity for a fair while before it can be considered for anything.

AnnoyedDragon

Since when has "profit" actually affect how we enjoy the quality games it offers.

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#65 druggyjoe3000
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To cows the ps3 is winning. To sony the ps3 is losing horribley.

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#66 Pixel-Pirate
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To cows the ps3 is winning. To sony the ps3 is losing horribley.

druggyjoe3000

This. I think alot of cows believe if they just keep saying "PS3 is in the lead!" they'll alter reality and make it so.

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#67 farnham
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[QUOTE="farnham"][QUOTE="WadeFan"]

Exclusives: Playstation 3

Library: 360

Sales: Wii

get-ka12

exclusives (almost every wii game is an exclusive) library (because of virtual console) and sales (look at the numbers) -> wii the wii is the leader and there is no fanboy logic that will defy that fact

You want to count Virtual Console as an exclusive?

Technically, those are from other generations ported to the Wii.

no i said virtual console in terms of library and it is no exaggeration that almost every wii game is an exclusive even games like cod or shawn white snowboarding differ greatly from ther hd counterparts
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#68 farnham
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[QUOTE="farnham"][QUOTE="WadeFan"]

Exclusives: Playstation 3

Library: 360

Sales: Wii

qewrewq

exclusives (almost every wii game is an exclusive) library (because of virtual console) and sales (look at the numbers) -> wii the wii is the leader and there is no fanboy logic that will defy that fact

Thanks for the laugh, no really, thanks.

so in other words... you couldnt come up with a counterargument so you are insulting me.. great choice
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#69 farnham
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

If I were to argue which platform won this generation PS3 wouldn't be at the top of the list. People forget, the PS3 has been at 3rd place for the majority of this generation and has only recently started being taken seriously because of Sony's efforts to push it forward at any cost. They have install base to catch up on and have yet to make an actual profit.

PS3 has to maintain its current activity for a fair while before it can be considered for anything.

RadecSupreme

Since when has "profit" actually affect how we enjoy the quality games it offers.

well if the game makes no profit you wont be seing a sequel thats for sure
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#70 get-ka12
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[QUOTE="get-ka12"]

[QUOTE="farnham"] exclusives (almost every wii game is an exclusive) library (because of virtual console) and sales (look at the numbers) -> wii the wii is the leader and there is no fanboy logic that will defy that factfarnham

You want to count Virtual Console as an exclusive?

Technically, those are from other generations ported to the Wii.

no i said virtual console in terms of library and it is no exaggeration that almost every wii game is an exclusive even games like cod or shawn white snowboarding differ greatly from ther hd counterparts

I don't even really count library that much anyway.

To me, the games have to be good. A console could have a library of 10,000 games, but if they are all junk, it is not worth counting.

Likewise, if a console had a library of only five games, but they were all amazing, that would easily beat the console with the 10,000 bad games.

Basically, for me, the console has to have games that I love and care about. That's all it really comes down to.

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#71 PAL360
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I dont get it. Doesnt 360 has more good games and Wii more sales?? :| Also this gen is not finished yet.....right now PS3 is just in last place

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#72 farnham
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[QUOTE="farnham"][QUOTE="get-ka12"]

You want to count Virtual Console as an exclusive?

Technically, those are from other generations ported to the Wii.

get-ka12

no i said virtual console in terms of library and it is no exaggeration that almost every wii game is an exclusive even games like cod or shawn white snowboarding differ greatly from ther hd counterparts

I don't even really count library that much anyway.

To me, the games have to be good. A console could have a library of 10,000 games, but if they are all junk, it is not worth counting.

Likewise, if a console had a library of only five games, but they were all amazing, that would easily beat the console with the 10,000 bad games.

Basically, for me, the console has to have games that I love and care about. That's all it really comes down to.

yeah thats great for you but who determines if a game is good or not.. at the end its your own taste isnt it..
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#73 farnham
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I dont get it. Doesnt 360 has more good games and Wii more sales?? :| Also this gen is not finished yet.....right now PS3 is just in last place

PAL360
nah the wii has more good games.. but other people might have other opinions
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#74 qewrewq
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so in other words... you couldnt come up with a counterargument so you are insulting me.. great choicefarnham

no you see, it's not that I can't come up with a counter argument, I just think that it's pointless, all your posts are basically "nintendo is god, wii is best LULZ!", and in your last post you even said that "no fanboy logic can defy that", so you're basically saying "Wii has the best library period! not arguably, factually.", which is VERY laughable. Also that was hardly an insult, stop being so sensitive.

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#75 PAL360
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[QUOTE="mythrol"][QUOTE="Jone_Z"]judging purely from a games perspective. MLB The Show 09 GOTY.shadow_hosi
The 360 has more AAAe, AAe, Ae. So No.

it does? 360 has almost no AAAe at all halo 3 gears 2 and forza 3 i think is all

XBOX 360


AAAE - 8

Forza 2
PDZ
GRAW
Halo 3
Gears 2
Halo 3 ODST
Forza 3
GTA Episodes from Liberty City

AAE - 12

DOA4
PGR3
Kameo
Banjo Kazooie
Fable 2
Viva Pinata 2
Ace Combat 6
PGR4
Dead Rising
Saints Row
MotoGP 06
Scene it

AE - 11

Stoked
Race Pro
Chromehounds
Crackdown
Amped 3
Namco Museum
Lost Odyssey
Scene it?
Naruto
Naruto The Broken Bond
Ninja Blade

PS3


AAAAE - 1

MGS4

AAAE - 6

LittleBigPlanet
Killzone 2
Resistance 2
inFamous
Demon´s Souls
Uncharted 2

AAE - 8

Resistance
Valkyria Chronicles
Warhawk
Motorstorm PR
Uncharted
Heavenly Sword
Ridge Racer 7
R&C Future: A Crack in Time

AE - 12

Motorstorm
Katamari Forever
Naruto
Disgaea 3
Buzz!
SingStar
Gran Turismo Prologue
Hot Shots Golf
Ratchet and Clank
The Eye of Judgement
SingStar V3
Folklore

:P

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#76 brennan7777
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[QUOTE="S3P4eeever"]

i think sony is winning,

charizard1605

Winning my crap filled ***. Sony's not winning, Sony's only demonstrating to the world how a console should NOT be marketed or sold.

And nintendo is demonstrating how to ruin your fanbase by coming out with grabage gimmicks and shovelware.

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#77 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="S3P4eeever"]

i think sony is winning,

brennan7777

Winning my crap filled ***. Sony's not winning, Sony's only demonstrating to the world how a console should NOT be marketed or sold.

And nintendo is demonstrating how to ruin your fanbase by coming out with grabage gimmicks and shovelware.

Please name one shovelware nintendo game. First party only, please.

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#78 Fizzman
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Exclusives: Playstation 3

Library: 360

Sales: Wii

WadeFan

360 has a bigger library, and more exclusives.....

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#79 qewrewq
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[QUOTE="brennan7777"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Winning my crap filled ***. Sony's not winning, Sony's only demonstrating to the world how a console should NOT be marketed or sold.Pixel-Pirate

And nintendo is demonstrating how to ruin your fanbase by coming out with grabage gimmicks and shovelware.

Please name one shovelware nintendo game. First party only, please.

Lonpos for the Wii.

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#80 brennan7777
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[QUOTE="brennan7777"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Winning my crap filled ***. Sony's not winning, Sony's only demonstrating to the world how a console should NOT be marketed or sold.Pixel-Pirate

And nintendo is demonstrating how to ruin your fanbase by coming out with grabage gimmicks and shovelware.

Please name one shovelware nintendo game. First party only, please.

I would consider all their new first party IPs gimmickyshovelware.

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#81 clone01
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Exclusives: Playstation 3

Library: 360

Sales: Wii

WadeFan
a very good summation, imo.
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#82 Silverbond
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And nintendo is demonstrating how to ruin your fanbase by coming out with grabage gimmicks

brennan7777

And yet, Sony and Microsoft are trying so hard to recreate those garbage gimmicks on their consoles.

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#83 deactivated-652663614c5e5
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This gen isn't over yet :|

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#84 brennan7777
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[QUOTE="WadeFan"]

Exclusives: Playstation 3

Library: 360

Sales: Wii

Fizzman

360 has a bigger library, and more exclusives.....

Just because it has more exclusives that doesnt meanthey arebetter...

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#85 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="WadeFan"]

Exclusives: Playstation 3

Library: 360

Sales: Wii

brennan7777

360 has a bigger library, and more exclusives.....

Just because it has more exclusives that doesnt meanthey arebetter...

more AAA exclusives

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#86 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="WadeFan"]

Exclusives: Playstation 3

Library: 360

Sales: Wii

brennan7777

360 has a bigger library, and more exclusives.....

Just because it has more exclusives that doesnt meanthey arebetter...

Nah. 360 has more quality exclusives than the PS3.

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#87 brennan7777
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[QUOTE="brennan7777"]

And nintendo is demonstrating how to ruin your fanbase by coming out with grabage gimmicks

Silverbond

And yet, Sony and Microsoft are trying so hard to recreate those garbage gimmicks on their consoles.

As long as they are pumping out games like UC2, Killzone, Alan Wake, GoW, Last Guardian, SC:C I dont care i they are trying to recreate garbage gimmicks.

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#88 brennan7777
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[QUOTE="brennan7777"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

360 has a bigger library, and more exclusives.....

Fizzman

Just because it has more exclusives that doesnt meanthey arebetter...

more AAA exclusives

Dont tell me that you are one of those people that dont understand the concept of "opnion."

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#89 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="brennan7777"]

And nintendo is demonstrating how to ruin your fanbase by coming out with grabage gimmicks

brennan7777

And yet, Sony and Microsoft are trying so hard to recreate those garbage gimmicks on their consoles.

As long as they are pumping out games like UC2, Killzone, Alan Wake, GoW, Last Guardian, SC:C I dont care i they are trying to recreate garbage gimmicks.

And Nintendo isn't pumping out quality games?

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judging purely from a games perspective. MLB The Show 09 GOTY.Jone_Z
About as much chance as Forza 3 has. And if Sony won anything this gen it's the "blown domination award". This is a business. The purpose is to move product and make profit. Nintendo wiped the floor with MS and Sony this gen.
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#91 brennan7777
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[QUOTE="brennan7777"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

And yet, Sony and Microsoft are trying so hard to recreate those garbage gimmicks on their consoles.

Silverbond

As long as they are pumping out games like UC2, Killzone, Alan Wake, GoW, Last Guardian, SC:C I dont care i they are trying to recreate garbage gimmicks.

And Nintendo isn't pumping out quality games?

In my opinion no. They arnt coming out with quality new IPS.Their old IPS have little to no evolution. Nintendo is just an overall dissappointment to me this gen, and thats coming from someone whose favorite console 2 gens ago was N64, and favorite console last gen was gamecube.

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#92 Burning-Sludge
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="S3P4eeever"]

i think sony is winning,

brennan7777

Winning my crap filled ***. Sony's not winning, Sony's only demonstrating to the world how a console should NOT be marketed or sold.

And nintendo is demonstrating how to ruin your fanbase by coming out with grabage gimmicks and shovelware.

The "core" audience never came out for Nintendo when the could avoid it, evidenced by the Game Cube's failure.

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#93 clone01
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="brennan7777"] As long as they are pumping out games like UC2, Killzone, Alan Wake, GoW, Last Guardian, SC:C I dont care i they are trying to recreate garbage gimmicks.

brennan7777

And Nintendo isn't pumping out quality games?

In my opinion no. They arnt coming out with quality new IPS.Their old IPS have little to no evolution. Nintendo is just an overall dissappointment to me this gen, and thats coming from someone whose favorite console 2 gens ago was N64, and favorite console last gen was gamecube.

your opinion is duly noted.
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#94 TheEroica  Moderator
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I think Im gonna be sick... "did sony win this gen?" seriously, people? seriously? im not even saying the ps3 is a bad console by any stretch, but if losing the massive commanding lead you had last gen and basically erasing your brand name as the industry standard in literally ONE console cycle determines you as winning the gen then I must be a complete lunatic. Of course there are southerners who still believe the south won the civil war, and oh there were those crazy hail bopp people 10 years ago who drank cool aid to get to the promised land.... I gues people could believe anything.

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#95 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

If I were to argue which platform won this generation PS3 wouldn't be at the top of the list. People forget, the PS3 has been at 3rd place for the majority of this generation and has only recently started being taken seriously because of Sony's efforts to push it forward at any cost. They have install base to catch up on and have yet to make an actual profit.

PS3 has to maintain its current activity for a fair while before it can be considered for anything.

RadecSupreme

Since when has "profit" actually affect how we enjoy the quality games it offers.

It doesn't affect the how much you currently enjoy their games. It could have a huge affect on how they make future games though...

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#96 foxhound_fox
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1) The gen is not even over yet.
2) There is a lot more to "winning" than just games, or just sales.

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#97 Burning-Sludge
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1) The gen is not even over yet.
2) There is a lot more to "winning" than just games, or just sales.

foxhound_fox

  1. True, but that alone doesn't get Sony out of last place.
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#98 Yankees718
Member since 2009 • 1033 Posts

[QUOTE="druggyjoe3000"]

To cows the ps3 is winning. To sony the ps3 is losing horribley.

Pixel-Pirate

This. I think alot of cows believe if they just keep saying "PS3 is in the lead!" they'll alter reality and make it so.

Agreed. Sony is still losing money on the ps3. So in turn the more ps3s they sell the more money they'll lose.

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#99 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="brennan7777"] And nintendo is demonstrating how to ruin your fanbase by coming out with grabage gimmicks and shovelware.

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Please name one shovelware nintendo game. First party only, please.

Lonpos for the Wii.

Pretty sure that is, at best, second party? If even that. Developed by Genki, published by Nintendo. Is Genki owned by Nintendo?

Also Lonpos is a Wiiware game.

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#100 djsifer01
Member since 2005 • 7238 Posts

Exclusives: Playstation 3

Library: 360

Sales: Wii

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I agree with this.