Digital Foundry vs. Gears of War 3

As with all kick ass looking exclusives, DF brings another vs. This time Gears of War 3.

"It's safe to say that Gears of War 3 is one of the most advanced video games of this generation, and a ringing endorsement of what the Xbox 360 is capable of handling when the right people, the right tech, a lengthy development cycle and an inordinately large budget are in play. From a technological perspective, with just a few caveats that we've touched upon, the overall presentation is first class."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-gears-of-war-3

Definitely the graphical jump like UC1 to UC2.

Is this an article where people take pictures of walls and the ground and call it amazing?

Is this an article where people take pictures of walls and the ground and call it amazing?

Lto_thaG

It's an in depth look at the effects and framerate on display...

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

Is this an article where people take pictures of walls and the ground and call it amazing?

CorbraMax

It's an in depth look at the effects and framerate on display...

Since Gears 3 is more of a showcase for Unreal Engine 3... More so than the Xbox 360...

I have a question...

Gears 3 is so much of a refinement that it brings the graphics engine to Naughty Dog territory. But that's just it... Could we have Uncharted/Gears3 level graphics across the board in multiplats? It's a very interesting thought...

Since Gears 3 is more of a showcase for Unreal Engine 3... More so than the Xbox 360...

I have a question...

Gears 3 is so much of a refinement that it brings the graphics engine to Naughty Dog territory. But that's just it... Could we have Uncharted/Gears3 level graphics across the board in multiplats? It's a very interesting thought...

CorbraMax

Well I do think this might quiet some of the people who constantly said that Uncharted 2 level graphics could not be done on the Xbox. It does prove what many people have said in the past. With the right development team anything is possible on either of the HD twins.

Did anyone notice GS never mentioned Gears 3 graphics in their vid review?

Gears 3 have no Anti-Aliasing but is the most Technically advanced 360 game? Lol Sadrich-sac

Well the MLAA in Costume Quest on XBLA has both Gears 3 and Uncharted 3 beat. lol

AA or no AA... It is the most techinically advanced Xbox 360 game.

You can take the post process AA awayfrom Uncharted 3 and it won't really change much...

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]

Did anyone notice GS never mentioned Gears 3 graphics in their vid review?

TheGuardian03

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Gears 3 got Outstanding visuals and Technically proficient graphics :)

The direct feed shots doesn't seen to make the game justice.

Though I would say that even for a console it does not feel like the best looking game. Imo direct feed from Crysis 2 seens slightly better. Gonna see that very soon, it isn't always good to see a game from a computer monitor instead of TV.

Id like to thank epic games for creating the motivation for another thousand copycat graphics king threads over the next year... Game looks sick and gears has become the generation staple for amazing games... Almost as if the generation rode in on the hype of the first game and is riding out on the incredible third game. love it.

It's pretty impressive. Doesn't beat Uncharted 2 though, just matches it. Effects, shadows and lighting ect. look better than what we've seen in UC2, but the AA and performance are lacking. It's clear that there's nothing left in the consoles.

Not that Uncharted 3 will either, The only developer who will squeeze more (But not much more) out of the consoles are id, and probably ICO and Sony Santa monica.

But I'm fine that the consoles are tapped, because all these games look really great.

It's pretty impressive. Doesn't beat Uncharted 2 though, just matches it. Effects, shadows and lighting ect. look better than what we've seen in UC2, but the AA and performance are lacking. It's clear that there's nothing left in the consoles.

Not that Uncharted 3 will either, The only developer who will squeeze more (But not much more) out of the consoles are id, and probably ICO and Sony Santa monica.

But I'm fine that the consoles are tapped, because all these games look really great.

theuncharted34

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

It's pretty impressive. Doesn't beat Uncharted 2 though, just matches it. Effects, shadows and lighting ect. look better than what we've seen in UC2, but the AA and performance are lacking. It's clear that there's nothing left in the consoles.

Not that Uncharted 3 will either, The only developer who will squeeze more (But not much more) out of the consoles are id, and probably ICO and Sony Santa monica.

But I'm fine that the consoles are tapped, because all these games look really great.

TheEroica

Because the textures and models are up to par with what we've seen in UC2. I'm not simply looking at the art for comparsions, but the tech. Gears has more advanced effects, lighting and shadows, but at the price of performance and AA. A simple case of "to get this, I have to take away that." Consoles are tapped.

Yes, it could. Not sure what that has to do with what I said though.

Hidden power of the 360! Niiice :twisted:

[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

It's pretty impressive. Doesn't beat Uncharted 2 though, just matches it. Effects, shadows and lighting ect. look better than what we've seen in UC2, but the AA and performance are lacking. It's clear that there's nothing left in the consoles.

Not that Uncharted 3 will either, The only developer who will squeeze more (But not much more) out of the consoles are id, and probably ICO and Sony Santa monica.

But I'm fine that the consoles are tapped, because all these games look really great.

theuncharted34

Because the textures and models are up to par with what we've seen in UC2. I'm not simply looking at the art for comparsions, but the tech. Gears has more advanced effects, lighting and shadows, but at the price of performance and AA. A simple case of "to get this, I have to take away that." Consoles are tapped.

Yes, it could. Not sure what that has to do with what I said though.

[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

It's pretty impressive. Doesn't beat Uncharted 2 though, just matches it. Effects, shadows and lighting ect. look better than what we've seen in UC2, but the AA and performance are lacking. It's clear that there's nothing left in the consoles.

Not that Uncharted 3 will either, The only developer who will squeeze more (But not much more) out of the consoles are id, and probably ICO and Sony Santa monica.

But I'm fine that the consoles are tapped, because all these games look really great.

theuncharted34

Because the textures and models are up to par with what we've seen in UC2. I'm not simply looking at the art for comparsions, but the tech. Gears has more advanced effects, lighting and shadows, but at the price of performance and AA. A simple case of "to get this, I have to take away that." Consoles are tapped.

Yes, it could. Not sure what that has to do with what I said though.

I think we all know what happens when we go beyond what the consoles can offer... We get Crysis 2 framerates and resolution.

High End consoleExclusives are more about what you can optimize and push rather than just brute force like what Crytek seems to like to dish out.

On the subject of textures... The textures in Gears 3 are above Uncharted 2 in terms of filtering. There's also a healthy amount of POM throughout. I would put the textures on par with Killzone 3.

Gears 3 have no Anti-Aliasing but is the most Technically advanced 360 game? Lol Sadrich-sac

On the subject of textures... The textures in Gears 3 are above Uncharted 2 in terms of filtering. There's also a healthy amount of POM throughout. I would put the textures on par with Killzone 3.

CorbraMax

[QUOTE="rich-sac"]Gears 3 have no Anti-Aliasing but is the most Technically advanced 360 game? Lol Sado0HAPPY0o

[QUOTE="CorbraMax"]

On the subject of textures... The textures in Gears 3 are above Uncharted 2 in terms of filtering. There's also a healthy amount of POM throughout. I would put the textures on par with Killzone 3.

Cow4ever

Take a good look at the Sandbar Map.

[QUOTE="rich-sac"]Gears 3 have no Anti-Aliasing but is the most Technically advanced 360 game? Lol Sado0HAPPY0o

the guy in the comments was right

Uncharted 2 wasnt a blur fest, it used 2xAA, v-sync to 30fps at all times, and most importantly, Uncharted 2 actually had color, its easy to look good when your whole game is brown and bloom

gears 3, the game is really good. just finished the campaign and i have to say its the best shooter on the system. also the mp is really amazing.

[QUOTE="o0HAPPY0o"]

[QUOTE="rich-sac"]Gears 3 have no Anti-Aliasing but is the most Technically advanced 360 game? Lol SadCow4ever

Gears 3 does have better quality textures. Check the Beta Graphics King thread.

The motion blur is there to make the game seem buttery smooth at 30fps. It's the same high quality motion blur seen in God of War 3. If you played both games you would have noticed...

The only game on PS3 with comparable shadow quality is God of War 3...

Killzone 2/3, UC1-3, and God of War 3 are filled with low resolutionalpha effects. The only game I know on PS3 with high resolution alpha effects is FFXIII.

Uncharted 3 wins

[QUOTE="Cow4ever"][QUOTE="o0HAPPY0o"] Now whats really sad is that there are ZERO PS3 games that can feature hi-res alpha, high quality textures, motion blur, shadows and lighting at 720p all together while still providing a 4 player campaign co-op. UC2, KZ3 and GOW3 can't even use hi res alpha effects like Gears3 does because of the fail limited bandwidth on PS3.

CorbraMax

Gears 3 does have better quality textures. Check the Beta Graphics King thread.

The motion blur is there to make the game seem buttery smooth at 30fps. It's the same high quality motion blur seen in God of War 3. If you played both games you would have noticed...

The only game on PS3 with comparable shadow quality is God of War 3...

Killzone 2/3, UC1-3, and God of War 3 are filled with low resolutionalpha effects. The only game I know on PS3 with high resolution alpha effects is FFXIII.

Pictures of the floor.

I called it.

the guy in the comments was right

Uncharted 2 wasnt a blur fest, it used 2xAA, v-sync to 30fps at all times, and most importantly, Uncharted 2 actually had color, its easy to look good when your whole game is brown and bloom

HaloinventedFPS

So according to you... God of War 3 is a blur fest since it also had high quality camera and object based motion blur...

Don't knock the tech because Uncharted 2 is lacking in certain areas.

And Gears 3 gets very colorful in the campaign. Play the game to find out. Or just play Sandbar in the MP...

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

the guy in the comments was right

Uncharted 2 wasnt a blur fest, it used 2xAA, v-sync to 30fps at all times, and most importantly, Uncharted 2 actually had color, its easy to look good when your whole game is brown and bloom

CorbraMax

So according to you... God of War 3 is a blur fest since it also had high quality camera and object based motion blur...

Don't knock the tech because Uncharted 2 is lacking in certain areas.

And Gears 3 gets very colorful in the campaign. Play the game to find out. Or just play Sandbar in the MP...

[QUOTE="o0HAPPY0o"]

[QUOTE="rich-sac"]Gears 3 have no Anti-Aliasing but is the most Technically advanced 360 game? Lol SadMozelleple112

just to get it out of the way. i have gears 3 and finished the campaign and played enough online to reach level 17. gears 3 is graphically superior to uncharted 2 graphics and just in case u r wondering i have a ps3. uncharted 3 might be better graphically than gears 3 only time will tell. but gears 3 is better graphically than U2.

Uncharted 3 wins

Cow4ever

Nope. Textures are better in Gears 3. Notice the poor filtering in that UC3 shot...

[QUOTE="Cow4ever"][QUOTE="o0HAPPY0o"] Now whats really sad is that there are ZERO PS3 games that can feature hi-res alpha, high quality textures, motion blur, shadows and lighting at 720p all together while still providing a 4 player campaign co-op. UC2, KZ3 and GOW3 can't even use hi res alpha effects like Gears3 does because of the fail limited bandwidth on PS3.

CorbraMax

Gears 3 does have better quality textures. Check the Beta Graphics King thread.

The motion blur is there to make the game seem buttery smooth at 30fps. It's the same high quality motion blur seen in God of War 3. If you played both games you would have noticed...

The only game on PS3 with comparable shadow quality is God of War 3...

Killzone 2/3, UC1-3, and God of War 3 are filled with low resolutionalpha effects. The only game I know on PS3 with high resolution alpha effects is FFXIII.

[QUOTE="o0HAPPY0o"]

[QUOTE="rich-sac"]Gears 3 have no Anti-Aliasing but is the most Technically advanced 360 game? Lol SadMozelleple112

[QUOTE="Cow4ever"]

Uncharted 3 wins

CorbraMax

Nope. Textures are better in Gears 3. Notice the poor filtering in that UC3 shot...

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="o0HAPPY0o"] Now whats really sad is that there are ZERO PS3 games that can feature hi-res alpha, high quality textures, motion blur, shadows and lighting at 720p all together while still providing a 4 player campaign co-op. UC2, KZ3 and GOW3 can't even use hi res alpha effects like Gears3 does because of the fail limited bandwidth on PS3.

o0HAPPY0o

[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"][QUOTE="o0HAPPY0o"] Now whats really sad is that there are ZERO PS3 games that can feature hi-res alpha, high quality textures, motion blur, shadows and lighting at 720p all together while still providing a 4 player campaign co-op. UC2, KZ3 and GOW3 can't even use hi res alpha effects like Gears3 does because of the fail limited bandwidth on PS3.

o0HAPPY0o

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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"] And yet reviewers don't mention anything about Gears 3's graphics in their reviews, while UC2, KZ3, Gow3 etc get called "best graphics ever" etc.Cow4ever