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In large part, it failed because it was DDIt failed because it was far too expensive upon release despite being cheaper to produce than the PSP 3000. It failed because physical titles weren't released digitally. It failed because you couldn't convert UMD games onto the PSP Go. It failed because Sony didn't take it seriously. im 100% sure all those things would have been ignored if the game would at least allow UMD[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Please don't use the PSP Go as an example. It has been established in System Wars that it failed due to completely different reasons. Just giving you a heads up.Hexagon_777
[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]It failed because it was far too expensive upon release despite being cheaper to produce than the PSP 3000. It failed because physical titles weren't released digitally. It failed because you couldn't convert UMD games onto the PSP Go. It failed because Sony didn't take it seriously. im 100% sure all those things would have been ignored if the game would at least allow UMD Because people would have happily paid $250 for a sliding PSP if it just had a UMD drive like every other model? What is the logic in that?[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] In large part, it failed because it was DDlightleggy
On PC, yes. Many developers are thanking digital for making their profits, with the latest case being Frictional Games with Amnesia: Tha Dark Descent. On consoles, definitely no. The hard drive space they offer is too small to offer a legitimate DD service along with people still wanting physical.
Nothing is wrong with obtaining a game physically or digitally. There really isn't a massive advantage or disadvantage with either format. Regardless of how you spend it, you are still obtaining the same data either way. You can even make a hard copy with digital and print out the CD cover and box art if you want the pleasure of owning physical. I understand some people's fear of digital comes from believing you do not own the game. That is false. Just about every DD store gives you the games, lets you make hard copies, and lets you download as many times as you need to. OnLive is pretty much what people fear about digital.
[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]It failed because it was far too expensive upon release despite being cheaper to produce than the PSP 3000. It failed because physical titles weren't released digitally. It failed because you couldn't convert UMD games onto the PSP Go. It failed because Sony didn't take it seriously.im 100% sure all those things would have been ignored if the game would at least allow UMD Because people would have happily paid $250 for a sliding PSP if it just had a UMD drive like every other model? What is the logic in that?Cherokee_Jack
well it has 16gb standard hdd
Eh, in my 25+ years of gaming no disc ever broke, got lost, or simply stopped working. If you can't take care of your stuff you shouldn't own anything. You won't be able to download your digital stuff forever. Only until somebody decides to switch the servers off. I prefer my hard copies, thanks.Screw collection, screw holding copies, dd is the future, I will take the amazing convenience of having all my games a click away to some imaginary collectors value.
Disks break, they get lost, they have maxiumum life, digital, good services you can download infinite times, download forever, if your harddrive dies, get a new one and just put the games on again. When a disk breaks, its gone forever, may have to re-buy the game.
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yeah....how about no? first of all I do like to have my hard copy...I like to read the manual on my way home...there is no feeling like that one...and if I ever need money/didnt liked the game I can sell it... and I dont have to be buying like a 10tb hard drive to store my games...thank you but I will remain physical in this one ;)lightleggy
I know 10 tb is an exageration, but..
1. you can remove games when need be and redownload them later (if you can be bothered:P)
2. a 1TB hard drive is only like £37 here in england. You pay ALOT more for console harddrives
Even though you weren't arguing about consoles being better, but hey.
Because people would have happily paid $250 for a sliding PSP if it just had a UMD drive like every other model? What is the logic in that?[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="lightleggy"] im 100% sure all those things would have been ignored if the game would at least allow UMDlightleggy
well it has 16gb standard hdd
You mean flash memory? You could get a memory stick of that size and a PSP 3000 for about the same price. Ultimately what Sony needed to do is launch the Go for the same price or cheaper than the PSP 3000, and have at least some system in place to exchange UMDs for download codes. If they did that, I believe it would have been a success (or at least sell hardware)Please don't use the PSP Go as an example. It has been established in System Wars that it failed due to completely different reasons. Just giving you a heads up. i didn't buy it because of DD. A lot of people didn't buy it because of DD. Valid point stands. Your objection is overruled.[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]Yes because the DD only PSPGO was proof that this is what people want. A world with no physical media....Hexagon_777
[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Please don't use the PSP Go as an example. It has been established in System Wars that it failed due to completely different reasons. Just giving you a heads up. i didn't buy it because of DD. A lot of people didn't buy it because of DD. Valid point stands. Your objection is overruled.[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]Yes because the DD only PSPGO was proof that this is what people want. A world with no physical media....fadersdream
Eh, it failed due to a few reasons. There was no real overruling reason, and no way to determine if the majority of people left it alone due to being solely DD. Not having access to a large portion of the library was also a huge blow, and the lack of ability to transfer from UMD to a fully digital format also severely hurt the system.
Digital is better for everyone.GeneralShowzerapart from the millions of people who will lose their jobs of course.
[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Digital is better for everyone.Indie_Hitmanapart from the millions of people who will lose their jobs of course. Technological advancement tends to work that way.
[QUOTE="fadersdream"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Please don't use the PSP Go as an example. It has been established in System Wars that it failed due to completely different reasons. Just giving you a heads up.lundy86_4i didn't buy it because of DD. A lot of people didn't buy it because of DD. Valid point stands. Your objection is overruled.Eh, it failed due to a few reasons. There was no real overruling reason, and no way to determine if the majority of people left it alone due to being solely DD. Not having access to a large portion of the library was also a huge blow, and the lack of ability to transfer from UMD to a fully digital format also severely hurt the system.Yea, fadersdream! :P
[QUOTE="groowagon"][QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"]you know what? physical copies of games have collection value. just look at some PS1 game prices at ebay... When people can start purchasing the same old games for less digitally, people will stop purchasing the physical versions no matter how rare it is. This is evident from GOG's popularity. Eventually people will try to sell copies of unopened FF7 and won't get more than original retail face value for it at best unless you find the very rare die hard collector. The opposite will actually be true. As games move to DD, it will become increasingly rare for physical copies, driving up the prices.most posters in SW seem to have a weird thing for DVD cases so will hate the fact that DD is becoming more and more popular.
gamer620
[QUOTE="Indie_Hitman"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Digital is better for everyone.Cherokee_Jackapart from the millions of people who will lose their jobs of course. Technological advancement tends to work that way.As old jobs are made redundant, new jobs will be created.
I think both physical and digital copies will coexist, atm I prefer physical copies due to my crappy connection.
Who knows, maybe the consoles will say DD is not for us and stay with physical copies? :) I like DD but I hate it. I'd say maybe in 5 years it might overtake physical, but I still doubt it. Many people still use satellite which has a very low bandwidth limit.I've fully accepted that DD will surpass physical discs very soon. While I absolutely prefer having actual discs of my games, there's no going back whether people like it or not.
DD salemight overtake Disc sales for PC this year but I stil think consoles are a few years off.
I don't play on PC at all so this suits me down to the ground.
balfe1990
ohhhhh, you showed me!!! except that is a reason it failed, and that IS the reason I didn't buy it. Some people WANT DD and some people don't. Bias can make you believe in your argument.
I don't really care. the "over ruled" was a joke. I find it funny when people support something and disregard any opinion that's different from theirs.
ohhhhh, you showed me!!! except that is a reason it failed, and that IS the reason I didn't buy it. Some people WANT DD and some people don't. Bias can make you believe in your argument.
I don't really care. the "over ruled" was a joke. I find it funny when people support something and disregard any opinion that's different from theirs.
fadersdream
I said that there was no real overruling reason, or one that would be easily proveable in any case. There were a number of noteable reasons for it's downfall, I wassimply outlining them as you only seemed to have one in mind.
I'm not stating the reason that you didn't buy it was incorrect in any way, nor did I single that out. You, however, stated that a lot of people didn't buy it due to DD, which you do not know for a fact, nor can anybody prove. Hence why I outlined the larger picture rather than focussing in on a particular reason which may or may not have been the cause.
I dunno if you are making any particular remarks about me in your point here, or the user/users you were quoting. So I won't comment on your remarks about bias and disregarding opinions. Furthermore you may wish to actually quote me, otherwise your post looks to be rather random, and I actually had to read and decide whether you were, in fact, addressing me with your post.
i really hope not
there is a lot of problems for DD on consoles
1) unlike PC there are generations of consoles what will happen when the next gen console come ( imagine that you can't play games from your PS1 or NES or Xbox )
2) it will be controlled by the companies ( SONY , MS and NINTENDO ) that own the consoles so they will be the one's controlling the prices so you can't garantee a price drop after the release of the game and you can't find used copies
3) with the current war between SONY and hackers it will be very likely that there will a lot of restrictions on it
4) you need a very fast internet connection in order to download the big games like GT5 otherwise it will take forever
5) usually there are more than one person using consoles so it will take a lot of space if every one want to keep there games and actually keeping several games on the hard drive will take a very very huge amount of space ( i have GT5 , GOW 1,2,3 , MGS4 , TES4 Oblivion , GTA4 , RDR , ... and a lot more that is almost all of my collection ) so if someone wants to do that he/she/they probably won't be able to unless the system has something like 1TB of HDD ( not counting any patches or DLCs )
I think this is where you've got it a bit backwards. There are collected items which are, literally, hundreds of years old still kicking around. A digital item you "own" will last only as long as the company that sold it to you, and by whose good graces they continue to support it and let you use it. In a world where superpowers have gone under in the past 20 years, the faith many of you kids have in these companies not only lasting for so long but also continuing to support old things in the breakneck pace realm of technical achievement, well... Such faith is just mindboggling. Digital distribution won't make your items permanent - in fact, it'll probably set a firm, limited shelf life on items you "own," dependent on the stability of technical norms and the financial world. It'll make things convenient, it'll make things cheap, but don't try and give it accolades it simply doesn't deserve.Screw collection, screw holding copies, dd is the future, I will take the amazing convenience of having all my games a click away to some imaginary collectors value.
Disks break, they get lost, they have maxiumum life, digital, good services you can download infinite times, download forever, if your harddrive dies, get a new one and just put the games on again. When a disk breaks, its gone forever, may have to re-buy the game.
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I really doubt it. However, when the next generation of consoles come out you better believe that it's going to be DD only.
I really doubt it. However, when the next generation of consoles come out you better believe that it's going to be DD only.
gamerfan85
I don't think so.
I say hell freaking no!!!!! I like physical copy's of the games I buy, DC is good for small game's and extra content not for full games. Of course all the developers would be pushing for this no wasting money on distributing, putting it on dics, or printable material like manuals. It would be pure profit on their end.
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