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#1 NyaDC
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I don't even want to explain this, you guys really need to read this article to understand its absolute absurdity...

Where does GameSpot find these people?

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/dirt-rally-is-a-formidable-thrillride-even-better-/1100-6434297/

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#2 Legend002
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The game is good and it's even better on consoles. What's wrong with that?

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@nyadc said:

I don't even want to explain this, you guys really need to read this article to understand its absolute absurdity...

Where does GameSpot find these people?

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/dirt-rally-is-a-formidable-thrillride-even-better-/1100-6434297/

lol

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#4 A-new-Guardian
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SDC as usual.

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#5 xhawk27
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@Legend002: Only on the PS4, right?

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#6 soulitane
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As the article stated. He thought it was better when being played with a controller on console vs a controller on PC. I don't really see what's wrong with that especially as he did back up his opinion on the matter.

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that was so bad its damm near laughable.

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#8  Edited By NyaDC
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@Legend002 said:

The game is good and it's even better on consoles. What's wrong with that?

But it's not, did you even read the article?

Controller haptic feedback, that is the argument for this game being "even better" on consoles.. CONTROLLER haptic feedback... It's a rally simulation, one which people use thousands of dollars in sim equipment to race with on PC at dramatically higher resolutions, settings and frame rates...

Even some of the lowest end wheel and pedal sets provide a better experience and level of control and feedback than could ever be even remotely gotten with a controller...

This article is insanity...

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#9 Legend002
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@nyadc: Seems fine with me. There's nothing to cry about.

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Haptic feedback on the triggers = better game on consoles supposedly.....

So im gettiing a lesser experience at 5960x1080 (3 monitors) @ 100+fps with a TM T150 force feedback wheel??....lulz

ok.

As always its just a headline to bait people in :P

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#11  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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HO HUM - BA HUMBUG!!!!

PC can't be beat. This is absurdity.

RAWR!!!!

Seriously, it's not like it can't happen or that some ppl dont think this way about some games.

Shocking I know.

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how is it better? I play with a controller and I also play it in 1440p 60fps 21:9 wide screen format...

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#13 NyaDC
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@naz99 said:

Haptic feedback on the triggers = better game on consoles supposedly.....

So im gettiing a lesser experience at 5960x1080 (3 monitors) @ 100+fps with a TM T150 force feedback wheel??....lulz

ok.

As always its just a headline to bait people in :P

Right lol? My jaw actually dropped when I was reading what this guy posted, look at the comments man, it's hilarious.

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#14 Ant_17
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So you're upset that the console versions are not sh*t?

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#16  Edited By naz99
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@Ant_17 said:

So you're upset that the console versions are not sh*t?

No nobody said that at all...

Edit: apart from you.....

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#17 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@Ant_17: he's upset that anyone doesn't think the stereotypical PC gamer logic that everything on console is shit.

Bc we all know that's what the cool kids are saying.

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@Ant_17: he's upset that anyone doesn't think the stereotypical PC gamer logic that everything on console is shit.

Bc we all know that's what the cool kids are saying.

Nobody is upset, why do you guys keep coming to this conclusion? The point is to highlight the absurdity of what that guy is saying as the console version is better in literally zero capacity.

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#19 Ant_17
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@naz99 said:
@Ant_17 said:

So you're upset that the console versions are not sh*t?

No nobody said that at all...

Edit: apart from you.....

Then what?

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#20  Edited By naz99
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@Ant_17: he's upset that anyone doesn't think the stereotypical PC gamer logic that everything on console is shit.

Bc we all know that's what the cool kids are saying.

Its amazing how your brain comes to that conclusion.......

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lol what prevents someone in using a Xbox One,360,PS3,or PS4 controller........ its the same control experience

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#22 naz99
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@nyadc said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

@Ant_17: he's upset that anyone doesn't think the stereotypical PC gamer logic that everything on console is shit.

Bc we all know that's what the cool kids are saying.

Nobody is upset, why do you guys keep coming to this conclusion? The point is to highlight the absurdity of what that guy is saying as the console version is better in literally zero capacity.

Exactly, and nobody is saying its worse either.

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#23  Edited By naz99
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@04dcarraher said:

lol what prevents someone in using a Xbox One,360,PS3,or PS4 controller........ its the same control experience

The triggers on the pc verson of the game do not have haptic feedback like they do on the consoles so you cant feel the accelleration/deceleration, thats it basically so according to the author that means its the best version of the game overall even compared to people playing the game at much better performance and on multiple monitors using wheels, if he was comparing controller vs controller across platforms he would have a point, but he didnt he made a blanket statement.

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#24 Ant_17
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@nyadc said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

@Ant_17: he's upset that anyone doesn't think the stereotypical PC gamer logic that everything on console is shit.

Bc we all know that's what the cool kids are saying.

Nobody is upset, why do you guys keep coming to this conclusion? The point is to highlight the absurdity of what that guy is saying as the console version is better in literally zero capacity.

The article does say one thing about the racing genre.

It's stagnant.

Forza, Driveclub, Pcars and the rest are just sim or sim-ish track racers, so a good rally game is a welcome change.

And even the dev said it was easier for them to work on the console, but they gave credit to the PC guys giving them feedback.

He didn't dismiss the PC, but since most console players race with a controller, it's good to hear they made an effort.

I even sent feedback, and it seems they listened.

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#25  Edited By SolidTy
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Welcome to Gamespot.

Note: This has been going on for years.

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#26 NyaDC
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@naz99 said:
@04dcarraher said:

lol what prevents someone in using a Xbox One,360,PS3,or PS4 controller........ its the same control experience

The triggers on the pc verson of the game do not have haptic feedback like they do on the consoles, thats it basically so according to the author that means its the best version even compared to people playing the game at much better performance and on multiple monitors using wheels, if he was comparing controller vs controller he would have a point, but he didnt.

I'd like to note too that this could also very well be an "as of yet" kind of situation for the feedback on these controllers for PC.

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#27  Edited By N64DD
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Where's the Michael Jackson gif when I need it?

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#28  Edited By naz99
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@Ant_17 said:
@nyadc said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

@Ant_17: he's upset that anyone doesn't think the stereotypical PC gamer logic that everything on console is shit.

Bc we all know that's what the cool kids are saying.

Nobody is upset, why do you guys keep coming to this conclusion? The point is to highlight the absurdity of what that guy is saying as the console version is better in literally zero capacity.

The article does say one thing about the racing genre.

It's stagnant.

Forza, Driveclub, Pcars and the rest are just sim or sim-ish track racers, so a good rally game is a welcome change.

And even the dev said it was easier for them to work on the console, but they gave credit to the PC guys giving them feedback.

He didn't dismiss the PC, but since most console players race with a controller, it's good to hear they made an effort.

I even sent feedback, and it seems they listened.

At the end of the day its an amzing game on both platforms, its just great to have a decent proper rally sim finally.

Strpping it down and simplifying it and just offering a raw racing experience was exactly what was needed, and iit worked :P

Less flash more substance.

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So this explains why no more updates to fix stuff like the free repairs or the random black textures/shaders bug on some AMD cards or improvements to the damage system. Focusing on consoles now...

Hopefully there will be more updates when these versions are released and also plenty DLC with some new stages, because rally is pointless once you memorize stages and also rally cross and hill climb also need something more.

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#30  Edited By naz99
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@glez13 said:

So this explains why no more updates to fix stuff like the free repairs or the random black textures/shaders bug on some AMD cards or improvements to the damage system. Focusing on consoles now...

Hopefully there will be more updates when these versions are released and also plenty DLC with some new stages, because rally is pointless once you memorize stages and also rally cross and hill climb also need something more.

I just got a patch today so im not sure about that...

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@Ant_17 said:
@nyadc said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

@Ant_17: he's upset that anyone doesn't think the stereotypical PC gamer logic that everything on console is shit.

Bc we all know that's what the cool kids are saying.

Nobody is upset, why do you guys keep coming to this conclusion? The point is to highlight the absurdity of what that guy is saying as the console version is better in literally zero capacity.

The article does say one thing about the racing genre.

It's stagnant.

Forza, Driveclub, Pcars and the rest are just sim or sim-ish track racers, so a good rally game is a welcome change.

And even the dev said it was easier for them to work on the console, but they gave credit to the PC guys giving them feedback.

He didn't dismiss the PC, but since most console players race with a controller, it's good to hear they made an effort.

I even sent feedback, and it seems they listened.

You completely missed the point of everything, what don't you understand about the bold statement of "Dirt Rally Is a Formidable Thrillride, Even Better on Console"?

When the sheer reality is this is completely untrue... I'm not doing this runaround with you trying to bring other elements into this discussion so it appears that you have some kind of a point, you don't, leave it.

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#32 silversix_
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where they find them? at www.fired-IGNorance-employees.com. Cheap and reliable to deliver shit.

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#33 Ant_17
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@naz99 said:

At the end of the day its an amzing game on both platforms, its just great to have a decent proper rally sim finally.

Tell me about it.

WRC4 was an insult to Rally fans, and i'm glad i can throw it away now.

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#34 naz99
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@Ant_17: Yep it also seems like WRC5 has turned out less that great also :(

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@naz99: bc it's accurate?

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#36 Ant_17
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@nyadc: So tell me, what steering wheel are you using?

Have you played the game?

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#37 NyaDC
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@Ant_17 said:

@nyadc: So tell me, what steering wheel are you using?

Have you played the game?

I don't have this game yet, and I'm currently in the market for a well priced G27 anyways, I have yet to purchase it because I do not have a wheel yet.

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#38  Edited By glez13
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@naz99 said:
@glez13 said:

So this explains why no more updates to fix stuff like the free repairs or the random black textures/shaders bug on some AMD cards or improvements to the damage system. Focusing on consoles now...

Hopefully there will be more updates when these versions are released and also plenty DLC with some new stages, because rally is pointless once you memorize stages and also rally cross and hill climb also need something more.

I just got a patch today so im not sure about that...

Oh, yes, just tried to play and it's updating to v1.03. Sadly it doesn't seem to fix anything important.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

how is it better? I play with a controller and I also play it in 1440p 60fps 21:9 wide screen format...

Why do you have to specify it every time you post?

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#40 gamecubepad
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So does the PC version not support rumble?

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#41 Ant_17
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@nyadc said:
@Ant_17 said:

@nyadc: So tell me, what steering wheel are you using?

Have you played the game?

I don't have this game yet, and I'm currently in the market for a well priced G27 anyways, I have yet to purchase it because I do not have a wheel yet.

Well, hope you find a G27 and enjoy the game, cause every one is.

You want to get in balls deep in the genre, get an HKS controller.

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#42 glez13
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@gamecubepad said:

So does the PC version not support rumble?

Even if you use an XBONE controller you will just get the old standard rumble like with a 360 or any other third party controller.

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#43 jun_aka_pekto
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Controllers are better on the console versions. I don't see anything wrong with that.

However, I also think no controller can match a set of driving wheel and pedals for driving games.

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#44  Edited By gamecubepad
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@glez13:

I see.

I read the review and he seemed to be talking about both DS4 and XO controller, so I thought it was missing altogether. So does the DS4 have trigger feedback, or is there a difference in implementation? I guess I'm still having trouble understanding what's up here.

"It’s not an empty boast either. Both console controllers can accurately tell you where your driving is going wrong with this improved haptic feedback, even more so than the PC version in some cases. You can tell which part of your car is losing its grip by the way the motors are vibrating in your pad, and in the case of the Xbox One, the triggers can give you feedback on wheelspin and brake lock-ups, the latter being something that Codemasters was unable to implement with the PC build."

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#45  Edited By Ant_17
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@jun_aka_pekto said:

Controllers are better on the console versions. I don't see anything wrong with that.

However, I also think no controller can match a set of driving wheel and pedals for driving games.

With curent consoles, yes.

But this thing is great as well

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#46 uninspiredcup
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Not seeing the issue.

Even though he should have, he didn't claim PC gaming was shit.

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#47 jun_aka_pekto
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@Ant_17 said:

With curent consoles, yes.

But this thing is great as well

That's fine for those who need just eye/hand coordination. Me? I still prefer eye/hand/feet coordination for driving games. It's deeply ingrained in me much like keyboard and mouse for FPS games. ;)

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#48 Ant_17
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@jun_aka_pekto said:
@Ant_17 said:

With curent consoles, yes.

But this thing is great as well

That's fine for those who need just eye/hand coordination. Me? I still prefer eye/hand/feet coordination for driving games. It's deeply ingrained in me much like keyboard and mouse for FPS games. ;)

Oh, no dought.

But going over to a friend and doing lan helps with the luging.

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#49 foxhound_fox
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Whoa, hold on...

You take what the staff at Gamespot has to say seriously?

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#50 casharmy
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*reads article*

Ok, what's the problem?