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#101 Lach0121
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[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

which does not mean that GTA V will be, especially considering some of the great ports rockstar has put out

lostrib

Agreed, however... when is the last time they put out an open world port for the pc?

Max payne 3 ran great, not open world though.

no idea. But considering the advertisement for a talented PC programmer recently. I would hope they have learned from past mistakes

Oh I would too.

I am not a fan of GTA.. However I am still willing to give 5 a go, if it is decently optimized for the pc.  

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#102 Mickeyminime
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besides, GTA5 will most likely be on PS4 anyway, just the PS3 version
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#103 lostrib
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besides, GTA5 will most likely be on PS4 anyway, just the PS3 versionMickeyminime

uh why? 

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#104 XxR3m1xInHDn3D
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lmfao @ people thinking it will be ported to next gen consoles.
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#105 savagetwinkie
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I don't think 6 months is all they'll need to delay this game to target entirely different hardware.

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#106 bleehum
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I'm disappointed in this thread.
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#107 Ghost120x
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Why would R* release a game with a budget of at least 200 mill on platforms with an unknown user base? Might as well just throw your money off a cliff, jump off the cliff, and while equipped with a parachute try to grab as much money as you can on the way down.
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#108 the_bi99man
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I got called stupid multiple times, I did not say make it exclusive to PS4 or X1, I said delay the game and release it for PS4, X1, AND 360 and PS3 !!! That will not hurt any sales for R*

Hydrolex

No, but it would cost millions of dollars, for the sake of a miniscule number of extra sales. Not worth it. At all. Not by any stretch of the imagination. That's why you've been called stupid. Learn about the most basic of economic principles, and remember that the real world is not made up of hardcore gamers with money to burn, who are all going to buy new consoles on day 1. 

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#109 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

Im not saying it is. I was saying not if it is anywhere near as horribly optimized...

Secondly it would not only have to not be a horrible mess optimization wise. It would have to be Extremely optimized to do what was stated in the original post.....  Thus how the above is not likely to actually happen.

Lach0121

if you have a strong enough computer you probably could easily

Um we are talking about a maxed out 2500x1400 res, at 60 fps... 

How strong a computer are you talking? 

I mean I would love to be proven wrong when its out.. Until then we have GTA IV as a basis. 

Why are we taking such resolution into account? What are we trying to do here? Comparing it's resolution to PS5/XBOX Two?

Also, the game ran fine on GTX 2xx high-end cards.

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#110 Omega-316
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I agree %100. I sold my PS3. Im not buying it again because of GTAV even though it is my fav franchise of all time and im just the biggest fanboy of it. I honestly grew up on GTA. Nothing to be proud about though. You never want a kid growing up on such games. But hell, I did it. I will wait for a PS4 release. Same with Dark Souls 2. Both games better be on PS4 by the end of 2014.

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#111 jg4xchamp
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Because the shit load of money they will make on the 360/PS3's userbase completely dwarfs hand over fist what they would make on doing next gen versions of GTA 5(especially given the cost to do that). Rockstar is probably going to put up some insane sales number for that game.
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#112 XboxStache
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Looks like a great game is going to be wasted...

 

Why can't they delay the game for 6 more months and release it on PS4 and X1 with better grpahics and  overall, a better experience ?

 NOTE: Release it a long with PS3 and 360 of course

goodluck to all of us playing it at 25 30fps with those jaggies, short draw distance and ugly textures !

Hydrolex
I agree. But remember that GTA4 sold quite well; despite it being extremely crappy.
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#113 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="DarthBlackAdder"]

[QUOTE="Hydrolex"]

Why can't they delay the game for 6 more months and release it on PS4 and X1 with better grpahics and  overall, a better experience ?

lilnazar

They ARE doing that, except only for the PC master race

Enjoy waiting 6 months for the port. I can't wait to let you guys make drool over GTA V.

You remind me of people you watch cam vids of movies. I'll gladly wait 6 months to not have my experience tainted by 8 year old console tech.
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#114 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="AzatiS"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="AzatiS"] Blame Sony and MS with their "10 year" cycle policy... With this slow speed , we will see truly next-gen games every 10 years more or less... Thats terrible... I miss the 5 years cycle.

its not their fault for a 10 year cycle, blame the economy

Greediness you mean ...

elaborate please or are you just gonna throw out a chump arguement bout graphics. many people including myself cant really afford to go out and buy a new console every 5 or so years if it comes to it, sure it might be easy for you if mummy and daddy's buying it. Theres no greed, consumers like myself are happy with longer cycles right now personally longer gens = more games and i spend less on hardware its a win win for me especially now moneys tight try living in the UK as someone whos in their 20's finding any decent employment cept minimum wage grunt work is insanely hard to come by.
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#115 p3anut
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They been working hard for many years on this game on the 360 and PS3. Plus current gen has a bigger install base duh!.

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#116 MK-Professor
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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="DarthBlackAdder"]

They ARE doing that, except only for the PC master race

Lach0121

^ this

I can wait to play this game with 2560x1440, 60fps, max settings, and the control scheme of my choice, mods, etc

 dirty console peasants I hope you enjoy your inferior version with 1280x720(or sub-HD), 25fps, low settings, etc :lol:

MUAHAHAH, not if its anywhere near as horribly optimized crap that GTA 4 was, AND STILL IS on PC.  

No matter how powerful your rig is.

Even with the pc that i had back in 2008 I was able to play GTA 4 with much better fps and graphics than the console version, let alone the pc that i have now...

So cry more you dirty console peasant...

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#117 sukraj
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They will release it on next gen eventually.

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#118 SPYDER0416
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[QUOTE="Hydrolex"]

Looks like a great game is going to be wasted...

 

Why can't they delay the game for 6 more months and release it on PS4 and X1 with better grpahics and  overall, a better experience ?

 NOTE: Release it a long with PS3 and 360 of course

goodluck to all of us playing it at 25 30fps with those jaggies, short draw distance and ugly textures !

XboxStache

I agree. But remember that GTA4 sold quite well; despite it being extremely crappy.

If you consider a game with a collective 98 out of 100 from 86 critic reviews, and 8.0 out of over 2000 user reviews to be crappy, then you quite literally have no idea what crappy means.

That or you consider your minority opinion to be fact despite overwhelming evidence against it (which is an increasingly common phenomenon among young internet dwellers).

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#119 ziggyww
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I think they have developed the game over 5 years and built it for the systems that they know. The PS4 didn't even have its full specs until Feb everyone thought it had only 4GB and not 8. Also the current install base is around 70 million on both systems so you looking at 140 million people that could get the game on day one. instead of the small install base on the next gen systems. Also they are pushing the current gen to the limit and still produce a playable game. it simple looks amazing for the scope and size better then any other game that has been released. Now if they focused on next gen tech it wouldn't look as impressive. Rockstar has never really released a game on a new console at launch or soon after. they would rather wait till both consoles specs have been fully shown and until they can get a good foot hold on the console and how it works then make a game for it, instead of trying to predict what the consoles are capable of and bring out a below par quality game. I think GTA V will be a better game then Watchdogs apart from the graphics and its not like GTA V is not a pretty game...I can live with that and wait for them to release another GTA later down the years when they know exactly how to work them
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#120 ziggyww
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[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

^ this

I can wait to play this game with 2560x1440, 60fps, max settings, and the control scheme of my choice, mods, etc

 dirty console peasants I hope you enjoy your inferior version with 1280x720(or sub-HD), 25fps, low settings, etc :lol:

MK-Professor

MUAHAHAH, not if its anywhere near as horribly optimized crap that GTA 4 was, AND STILL IS on PC.  

No matter how powerful your rig is.

Even with the pc that i had back in 2008 I was able to play GTA 4 with much better fps and graphics than the console version, let alone the pc that i have now...

So cry more you dirty console peasant...

Why are PC elitist all "consoles are for peasants and have the worst games" and now "please please let me play this game please make a PC version" WTF!!! I like PC gaming and is saving up on getting myself a good rig but I will still get into my console games pretty bad but I would say you PC gamers are the worst of all gamers and only care about specs and GHz and what level they play the game and how many frames then actually enjoying and playing the game just for what it is. If you play on PC that's all cool but if you talk like the way you do you are nothing more then a specs whore and looks to much at the FPS counter instead of the HUD...Get of this forum ITS FOR GAMERS NOT SPEC WHORES!!!
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#121 001011000101101
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Potential buyers on current systems: Hundreds of millions.

Potential buyers on next-gen systems: Very few in comparison.

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#122 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="XboxStache"][QUOTE="Hydrolex"]

Looks like a great game is going to be wasted...

 

Why can't they delay the game for 6 more months and release it on PS4 and X1 with better grpahics and  overall, a better experience ?

 NOTE: Release it a long with PS3 and 360 of course

goodluck to all of us playing it at 25 30fps with those jaggies, short draw distance and ugly textures !

SPYDER0416

I agree. But remember that GTA4 sold quite well; despite it being extremely crappy.

If you consider a game with a collective 98 out of 100 from 86 critic reviews, and 8.0 out of over 2000 user reviews to be crappy, then you quite literally have no idea what crappy means.

That or you consider your minority opinion to be fact despite overwhelming evidence against it (which is an increasingly common phenomenon among young internet dwellers).

This pretty much goes for most people here.
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#123 MK-Professor
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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

MUAHAHAH, not if its anywhere near as horribly optimized crap that GTA 4 was, AND STILL IS on PC.  

No matter how powerful your rig is.

ziggyww

Even with the pc that i had back in 2008 I was able to play GTA 4 with much better fps and graphics than the console version, let alone the pc that i have now...

So cry more you dirty console peasant...

Why are PC elitist all "consoles are for peasants and have the worst games" and now "please please let me play this game please make a PC version" WTF!!! I like PC gaming and is saving up on getting myself a good rig but I will still get into my console games pretty bad but I would say you PC gamers are the worst of all gamers and only care about specs and GHz and what level they play the game and how many frames then actually enjoying and playing the game just for what it is. If you play on PC that's all cool but if you talk like the way you do you are nothing more then a specs whore and looks to much at the FPS counter instead of the HUD...Get of this forum ITS FOR GAMERS NOT SPEC WHORES!!!

Dat damage control

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#124 Lach0121
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[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

^ this

I can wait to play this game with 2560x1440, 60fps, max settings, and the control scheme of my choice, mods, etc

 dirty console peasants I hope you enjoy your inferior version with 1280x720(or sub-HD), 25fps, low settings, etc :lol:

MK-Professor

MUAHAHAH, not if its anywhere near as horribly optimized crap that GTA 4 was, AND STILL IS on PC.  

No matter how powerful your rig is.

Even with the pc that i had back in 2008 I was able to play GTA 4 with much better fps and graphics than the console version, let alone the pc that i have now...

So cry more you dirty console peasant...

Um I am mainly a pc gamer, your assumptions are showing your ignorance..

I was just pointing out how horribly optimized GTA4 was, and not to get your hopes up to that level of optimization, or performance.... Peasant?  Blow it out your A$$.

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#125 Lach0121
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[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

if you have a strong enough computer you probably could easily

faizan_faizan

Um we are talking about a maxed out 2500x1400 res, at 60 fps... 

How strong a computer are you talking? 

I mean I would love to be proven wrong when its out.. Until then we have GTA IV as a basis. 

Why are we taking such resolution into account? What are we trying to do here? Comparing it's resolution to PS5/XBOX Two?

Also, the game ran fine on GTX 2xx high-end cards.


Because that is the resolution that the other poster said he wanted to max it out at, which I replied to.... 

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#126 Chris_Williams
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The ps3/360 version is going to be better than the PC version. 

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#127 lostrib
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The ps3/360 version is going to be better than the PC version. 

Chris_Williams

doubtful

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#128 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

MUAHAHAH, not if its anywhere near as horribly optimized crap that GTA 4 was, AND STILL IS on PC.  

No matter how powerful your rig is.

Lach0121

Even with the pc that i had back in 2008 I was able to play GTA 4 with much better fps and graphics than the console version, let alone the pc that i have now...

So cry more you dirty console peasant...

Um I am mainly a pc gamer, your assumptions are showing your ignorance..

I was just pointing out how horribly optimized GTA4 was, and not to get your hopes up to that level of optimization, or performance.... Peasant?  Blow it out your A$$.

Like I previously said, GTA IV =/= GTA V. I presume it will be better optimized this time because GTA IV was R*'s first attempt at a next gen GTA and the new engine; RAGE. Max Payne 3 showed us that they've matured the engine, and they know quite a lot about how to scale the game across millions of gaming PCs.
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#129 Lach0121
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

The ps3/360 version is going to be better than the PC version. 

lostrib

doubtful

I doubt it too.

Even though GTA 4 was horribly optimized, it was still way better than the console version, and thats before you factor in the modding ability....

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#130 Chris_Williams
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

The ps3/360 version is going to be better than the PC version. 

lostrib

doubtful

The PC hasn't even reached what the ps3/360 can do. In six months thats when it will be able to catch up and thats when gta 5 will come out for it. Don't argue with me, I''m right
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#131 Lach0121
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[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

Even with the pc that i had back in 2008 I was able to play GTA 4 with much better fps and graphics than the console version, let alone the pc that i have now...

So cry more you dirty console peasant...

faizan_faizan

Um I am mainly a pc gamer, your assumptions are showing your ignorance..

I was just pointing out how horribly optimized GTA4 was, and not to get your hopes up to that level of optimization, or performance.... Peasant?  Blow it out your A$$.

Like I previously said, GTA IV =/= GTA V. I presume it will be better optimized this time because GTA IV was R*'s first attempt at a next gen GTA and the new engine; RAGE. Max Payne 3 showed us that they've matured the engine, and they know quite a lot about how to scale the game across millions of gaming PCs.

As previously mentioned I realize this... :roll:

However, Its more logical to be weary about playing it at 2500x1600 maxed at 60fps.  Especially because the last open world game they had come out couldn't even come close to a high res (at the time) maxed out with 60fps.

Like I said I would love to be proven wrong. But until it is out, we have their last open world game for pc to go by. Which I do believe is GTA 4. 

I am not saying GTA 5 will perform horribly, I am stating that with the open world setting, taking into account their last venture... I am saying that don't be too disappointed if it doesn't perform as well as in the quoted statements that started this.

Max Payne 3 wasn't open world. 

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#132 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

The ps3/360 version is going to be better than the PC version. 

Chris_Williams

doubtful

The PC hasn't even reached what the ps3/360 can do. In six months thats when it will be able to catch up and thats when gta 5 will come out for it. Don't argue with me, I''m right

you're right.  Forgot PC isn't even HD yet. Can't wait for PC2 though

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#133 Lach0121
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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

doubtful

lostrib

The PC hasn't even reached what the ps3/360 can do. In six months thats when it will be able to catch up and thats when gta 5 will come out for it. Don't argue with me, I''m right

you're right.  Forgot PC isn't even HD yet. Can't wait for PC2 though

LOL PC2 that concept is actually kinda funny.

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#134 MK-Professor
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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

MUAHAHAH, not if its anywhere near as horribly optimized crap that GTA 4 was, AND STILL IS on PC.  

No matter how powerful your rig is.

Lach0121

Even with the pc that i had back in 2008 I was able to play GTA 4 with much better fps and graphics than the console version, let alone the pc that i have now...

So cry more you dirty console peasant...

Um I am mainly a pc gamer, your assumptions are showing your ignorance..

I was just pointing out how horribly optimized GTA4 was, and not to get your hopes up to that level of optimization, or performance.... Peasant?  Blow it out your A$$.

ignorance? by simply stating the truth :roll:

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#135 PernicioEnigma
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They'll probably release the next gen version a year after the initial release along side the PC version.
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#136 Lach0121
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[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

Even with the pc that i had back in 2008 I was able to play GTA 4 with much better fps and graphics than the console version, let alone the pc that i have now...

So cry more you dirty console peasant...

MK-Professor

Um I am mainly a pc gamer, your assumptions are showing your ignorance..

I was just pointing out how horribly optimized GTA4 was, and not to get your hopes up to that level of optimization, or performance.... Peasant?  Blow it out your A$$.

ignorance? by simply stating the truth :roll:

Ingorance! because even now, you still think its truth, after I stated I was primarly a pc gamer. :roll:

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#137 MK-Professor
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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

Um I am mainly a pc gamer, your assumptions are showing your ignorance..

I was just pointing out how horribly optimized GTA4 was, and not to get your hopes up to that level of optimization, or performance.... Peasant?  Blow it out your A$$.

Lach0121

ignorance? by simply stating the truth :roll:

Ingorance! because even now, you still think its truth, after I stated I was primarly a pc gamer. :roll:

it is the truth, and I don't care if you agree or not...

the fact is that even with the pc that i had back in 2008 I was playing GTA4 with much better fps and graphics than the console version.

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#138 Lach0121
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[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

ignorance? by simply stating the truth :roll:

MK-Professor

Ingorance! because even now, you still think its truth, after I stated I was primarly a pc gamer. :roll:

it is the truth, and I don't care if you agree or not...

the fact is that even with the pc that i had back in 2008 I was playing GTA4 with much better fps and graphics than the console version.

Wait, I think we are misunderstanding each other here.

I am not debating your pc played it better than console back then, I was addressing your comment of "dirty console peasant." Which is infact not true. 

Besides none of this supports your original claim anyway. 

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#139 MK-Professor
Member since 2009 • 4218 Posts

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

Ingorance! because even now, you still think its truth, after I stated I was primarly a pc gamer. :roll:

Lach0121

it is the truth, and I don't care if you agree or not...

the fact is that even with the pc that i had back in 2008 I was playing GTA4 with much better fps and graphics than the console version.

Wait, I think we are misunderstanding each other here.

I am not debating your pc played it better than console back then, I was addressing your comment of "dirty console peasant." Which is infact not true. 

Besides none of this supports your original claim anyway. 

What is wrong with the "dirty console peasant"? it is SW after all, everyone have names for each other, it is part of the fun.

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#140 the_bi99man
Member since 2004 • 11465 Posts

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

The ps3/360 version is going to be better than the PC version. 

Chris_Williams

doubtful

The PC hasn't even reached what the ps3/360 can do. In six months thats when it will be able to catch up and thats when gta 5 will come out for it. Don't argue with me, I''m right

Zip it up bro. Level 38 is a bit too old to be lettin your troll just hang out like that. Did you forget to switch to an alt?

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#141 DragonfireXZ95
Member since 2005 • 26716 Posts
I'm waiting for PC port, so no skin off my PC.
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#142 Lach0121
Member since 2007 • 11815 Posts

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

it is the truth, and I don't care if you agree or not...

the fact is that even with the pc that i had back in 2008 I was playing GTA4 with much better fps and graphics than the console version.

MK-Professor

Wait, I think we are misunderstanding each other here.

I am not debating your pc played it better than console back then, I was addressing your comment of "dirty console peasant." Which is infact not true. 

Besides none of this supports your original claim anyway. 

What is wrong with the "dirty console peasant"? it is SW after all, everyone have names for each other, it is part of the fun.

lol its just inaccurate. :P

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#143 MK-Professor
Member since 2009 • 4218 Posts

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

Wait, I think we are misunderstanding each other here.

I am not debating your pc played it better than console back then, I was addressing your comment of "dirty console peasant." Which is infact not true. 

Besides none of this supports your original claim anyway. 

Lach0121

What is wrong with the "dirty console peasant"? it is SW after all, everyone have names for each other, it is part of the fun.

lol its just inaccurate. :P

no it is not

they are dirty? yes
they are peasants? yes
play on consoles? yes

therefore, they are dirty console peasants :shock:

 

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#144 foxhound_fox
Member since 2005 • 98532 Posts
You think it would only take 6 months to port an entire engine to two brand new platforms and improve the technical fidelity of the gigantic world? It would take probably another year or two to take full advantage of the new hardware. Rockstar clearly wants their game to be the defining end of the generation. And when selling it to a 140+ million user install base (rather than the ~2-4 million the two platforms will have by spring next year) will make a fair bit more money for them. And better graphics won't make the game better. If you are that butthurt about technical fidelity, just wait for the PC version.
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#145 Lach0121
Member since 2007 • 11815 Posts

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

What is wrong with the "dirty console peasant"? it is SW after all, everyone have names for each other, it is part of the fun.

MK-Professor

lol its just inaccurate. :P

no it is not

they are dirty? yes
they are peasants? yes
play on consoles? yes

therefore, they are dirty console peasants :shock:

 

Its sad that people actually think this crap. It's people like you who make us PC gamers look bad.

I really don't have anymore to say to a troll such as yourself. 

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#147 Riverwolf007
Member since 2005 • 26023 Posts

you know what is so great about r*?

they can drop a game that makes all of next gen look like ass.

that is how freaking cool r* is.

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#148 MK-Professor
Member since 2009 • 4218 Posts

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="Lach0121"]

lol its just inaccurate. :P

Lach0121

no it is not

they are dirty? yes
they are peasants? yes
play on consoles? yes

therefore, they are dirty console peasants :shock:

 

Its sad that people actually think this crap. It's people like you who make us PC gamers look bad.

I really don't have anymore to say to a troll such as yourself. 

by your logic everyone on SW are trolls.

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#149 faizan_faizan
Member since 2009 • 7869 Posts

you know what is so great about r*?

they can drop a game that makes all of next gen look like ass.

that is how freaking cool r* is.

Riverwolf007
Damn right.
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#150 GunSmith1_basic
Member since 2002 • 10548 Posts
i think having games at the end of a console lifecycle is a great thing. More companies should have this philosophy