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#1 SolidGame_basic
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I've heard a lot about crappy games being released on Steam, especially with these "worst games" lists that happen every year. Do you think PC has a quality control problem, SW? At least with consoles Sony and Nintendo are pretty tough when it comes to quality standards. I don't think either one of these companies would knowingly release a game that isn't complete. Your thoughts?

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#2 nepu7supastar7
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@SolidGame_basic:

That's not pc's problem, it's Steam's.

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anyone can put something out there to download

Doesn't mean consoles have good quality control

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#4 TryIt
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depends a bit on a few things.

1. are these asshats telling the truth, usually not. the hate toward indie steam games is only second to hate of star citizen.

2. what is quality?

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#5 MonsieurX
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Yes.

Consoles have a single company behind them while PC are open source, anyone can publish anything

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@SolidGame_basic said:

I've heard a lot about crappy games being released on Steam, especially with these "worst games" lists that happen every year. Do you think PC has a quality control problem, SW? At least with consoles Sony and Nintendo are pretty tough when it comes to quality standards. I don't think either one of these companies would knowingly release a game that isn't complete. Your thoughts?

You were saying?

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More choice is always better.

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#8 with_teeth26
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yea Steam is a fkn mess right now with shovelware and asset flips making up probably the majority of releases, I'm sure some undiscovered Gems have gotten swept away in the tide of shit that is game releases on steam

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#9 lundy86_4
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For the most part, yes. It's not a guarantee, and it entirely depends on how companies operate.

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Yes, definitely. While I’m sure some garbage gets though on consoles it’s minuscule compared to the garbage that’s choking up Steam these days.

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#11  Edited By so_hai
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Yes because there is a first-party with consoles. There is no such thing with PC.

You also get what you pay for - free Steam network is pretty stable, but it attracts people who don't want to pay for their games and the mp network.

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#12 GioVela2010
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Yep, PC sucks

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When there's up to 4 games released a year worth looking at and they are mostly copy and pasted rehashes of existing ideas it doesn't take much effort to reach nearly the same "quality" of a single days worth of content and up to 30 with most of the visuals stripped out.

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#15  Edited By plageus900
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There are more options on PC.

You people that say consoles are better because of the recent onslaught of shovelware on steam, are high AF.

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#16  Edited By Juub1990
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@GioVela2010 said:

Yep, PC sucks

Indeed it does mr. I'm playing games on my 1080p plasma at 30fps lol.

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#17 GioVela2010
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@Juub1990 said:
@GioVela2010 said:

Yep, PC sucks

Indeed it does mr. I'm playing games on my 1080p plasma at 30fps lol.

4K Oled

Sorry Mr 1440p LCD

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#18  Edited By Juub1990
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@GioVela2010 said:

4K Oled

Sorry Mr 1440p LCD

My KS8000 is 4K and my HP Omen X35 is 3440x1440. I'll take higher graphics, twice to thrice the frame rates, better response time, lower input lag and Gsync over nicer colors lol.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

I've heard a lot about crappy games being released on Steam, especially with these "worst games" lists that happen every year. Do you think PC has a quality control problem, SW? At least with consoles Sony and Nintendo are pretty tough when it comes to quality standards. I don't think either one of these companies would knowingly release a game that isn't complete. Your thoughts?

True, SONY is the GOLD standard for world class gaming.

PC's are good for $10 Steam sales, MMOs and FB games.

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@Juub1990 said:
@GioVela2010 said:

4K Oled

Sorry Mr 1440p LCD

My KS8000 is 4K and my HP Omen X35 is 3440x1440. I'll take higher graphics, twice to thrice the frame rates, better response time, lower input lag and Gsync over nicer colors lol.

KS8000 is LCD

LCD is shit

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@metalboi said:
@GioVela2010 said:

Yep, PC sucks

Because it's janky af.

PC is superior to any console at the moment. You don't have to play these bad games.

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#22  Edited By UssjTrunks
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@GioVela2010 said:
@Juub1990 said:
@GioVela2010 said:

Yep, PC sucks

Indeed it does mr. I'm playing games on my 1080p plasma at 30fps lol.

4K Oled

Sorry Mr 1440p LCD

2160p on a small screen is pointless (you literally cannot tell the difference between 1440p and 2160p unless you stick your face within an inch of the screen). It's especially pointless when it results in lower frames and graphical fidelity.

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#23 Juub1990
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@GioVela2010 said:

KS8000 is LCD

LCD is shit

So is being stuck gaming at 30fps 99% of the time. You know, it actually impacts performance whereas colors don't.

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#24  Edited By Juub1990
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@UssjTrunks said:

2160p on a small screen is pointless (you literally cannot tell the difference between 1440p and 2160p unless you stick your face within an inch of the screen). It's especially pointless when it results in lower frames and graphical fidelity.

Nah you can definitely see it on a 27"+ screen. I'd actually argue the difference on a monitor is much more visible than on a TV because you sit closer.

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@Juub1990 said:
@GioVela2010 said:

KS8000 is LCD

LCD is shit

So is being stuck gaming at 30fps 99% of the time. You know, it actually impacts performance whereas colors don't.

20-30 fps is fine for him, he only plays interactive movies.

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#26  Edited By GioVela2010
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@UssjTrunks said:
@GioVela2010 said:
@Juub1990 said:
@GioVela2010 said:

Yep, PC sucks

Indeed it does mr. I'm playing games on my 1080p plasma at 30fps lol.

4K Oled

Sorry Mr 1440p LCD

2160p on a small screen is pointless (you literally cannot tell the difference between 1440p and 2160p unless you stick your face within an inch of the screen). It's especially pointless when it results in lower frames and graphical fidelity.

I don’t know what sizes 4K Monitors come in because I don’t give a shit about LCD, but a 34-40” 4K Screen is ideal From a viewing distance of 2ft or so

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#27  Edited By uninspiredcup  Online
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Pretty much 0 qeastion here Steam needs quility control.

Not just talking about Greenlight Asset flips or big Publishers like Warn Bros that get away with porting shit.

Games like Resident Evil: Operation Racoon City and Mortal Kombat collection, by default, do not work without extreme work around.

Likewise older games ported, unlike GOG have 0 attempt to fix them for modern systems, they are simply dumped with 98% of the time requiring third party user fixes. Heck, I even wound up making guides myself for Tomb Raider 1/2/3/4, which are easily fixed with a third party problem, and should have been like that from the start.

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Oh yeah Steam is full of shit. You could make a top 10 worst weekly. I bet there's ~50 new games on Steam every week.

Some of them are good though. Some hidden gems.

This also doesn't stop you from playing multi-platform games which have supposedly been curated by someone.

Still... Steam should put in a little more effort. It's not like Valve is making games anymore....

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@zaryia said:
@Juub1990 said:
@GioVela2010 said:

KS8000 is LCD

LCD is shit

So is being stuck gaming at 30fps 99% of the time. You know, it actually impacts performance whereas colors don't.

20-30 fps is fine for him, he only plays interactive movies.

Stay in yo lane Medium Settings Warrior

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#30 freedomfreak  Online
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Objectively, yes.

I'm also glad Giovela is back.

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@freedomfreak said:

Objectively, yes.

I'm also glad Giovela is back.

Awwww ❤️

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#32 ermacness
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@i_p_daily:

Why does any praises that Sony receives, you hate on it?

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@nethernova: well they also released Horse Racing or something on the PSN store, which is a free game on iOS/Android and equally shit

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@pyro1245 said:

Oh yeah Steam is full of shit. You could make a top 10 worst weekly. I bet there's ~50 new games on Steam every week.

Some of them are good though. Some hidden gems.

This also doesn't stop you from playing multi-platform games which have supposedly been curated by someone.

Still... Steam should put in a little more effort. It's not like Valve is making games anymore....

Over 7,600 games were released on Steam in 2017 with average of 21 a day....

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#36 djoffer
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Meh honestly with the two hours no question asked refund policy steam has, I honestly could care less about some crappy releases... show me anything even remotely as customer friendly as that on the consoles, and of not just bow down and admit that pc are superior in every way...

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#37 GarGx1
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Steam does have a big pile of shite on it but it's not exactly hard to avoid bad games. They could definitely have a better QA process though. For example, they could easily recruit a few thousand volunteers, split them into groups of 50 to 100, give them copies of new games for free to test and rate before it's allowed in the store. The cost would be minimal and and the quality of games released would be dramatically improved. More likely though is that Valve won't really change things while they are making money from it.

Console manufacturers are slightly better as they allegedly check them first. However looking at some of the shite they have for much more money than steam sells shite for, I'm not convinced they're as good as they claim to be.

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@i_p_daily said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

I've heard a lot about crappy games being released on Steam, especially with these "worst games" lists that happen every year. Do you think PC has a quality control problem, SW? At least with consoles Sony and Nintendo are pretty tough when it comes to quality standards. I don't think either one of these companies would knowingly release a game that isn't complete. Your thoughts?

You were saying?

:P

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#39  Edited By Juub1990
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@GioVela2010 said:

Stay in yo lane Medium Settings Warrior

>2.5K$ TV

>FauxK

>30fps

>No GSync/Gsync

>Input lag

But hey at least you got nicer blacks and whites lol. Hell it's not like you can't do PC gaming on your OLED TV but you choose to go with subpar console.

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#40  Edited By APiranhaAteMyVa
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PS4 = Rolls Royce no expenses spared, 100% professional and luxurious

PC = VW talk about great performance and efficiency but fail to deliver.

Xbone = Relient Robin total embarrassment.

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@Juub1990 said:

@Juub1990 said:
@GioVela2010 said:

Stay in yo lane Medium Settings Warrior

>2.5K$ TV

>FauxK

>30fps

>No GSync/Gsync

>Input lag

But hey at least you got nicer blacks and whites lol. Hell it's not like you can't do PC gaming on your OLED TV but you choose to go with subpar console.

1440p

Shit Contrast

No HDR

33ms Input Lag (worst than my OLED

No GSync

Tiny Little Screen

Enjoy your shitty little LCD all to yourself, Loner

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#42  Edited By Juub1990
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@GioVela2010 said:

1440p

Shit Contrast

No HDR

33ms Input Lag (worst than my OLED

No GSync

Tiny Little Screen

Enjoy your shitty little LCD all to yourself, Loner

The HP Omen X35 is 3440x1440.

Input lag is 8ms.

It has Gsync.

It is 35" Ultrawide which is about as big as you want your monitor to be.

It is also 100Hz overclockable to 120Hz. 100-120fps goodness for me while you're stuck at 30fps.

Basically the only thing your OLED has over it is contrast.

But don't let the facts fool you.

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Ahahaha, this has to be a joke thread xD Sony even accepts games that didn't go through Steam Greenlight xD And Steam is known for having (almost) no quality control xD

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@GioVela2010 said:
@Juub1990 said:
@Juub1990 said:
@GioVela2010 said:

Stay in yo lane Medium Settings Warrior

>2.5K$ TV

>FauxK

>30fps

>No GSync/Gsync

>Input lag

But hey at least you got nicer blacks and whites lol. Hell it's not like you can't do PC gaming on your OLED TV but you choose to go with subpar console.

1440p

Shit Contrast

No HDR

33ms Input Lag (worst than my OLED

No GSync

Tiny Little Screen

Enjoy your shitty little LCD all to yourself, Loner

WTF are you talking about 1140p?

I have been playing most of my games at 2048×1080 for 9 YEARS now.

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Well when you're being forced to pay for online they better put in some sort of quality control since it ain't like that money is going towards servers especially on PS4.

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@nethernova said:
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As bad as this is, it's nowhere near the quality or quantity of shit that's been shoveled onto Steam.

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#47  Edited By GioVela2010
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@Juub1990 said:
@GioVela2010 said:

1440p

Shit Contrast

No HDR

33ms Input Lag (worst than my OLED

No GSync

Tiny Little Screen

Enjoy your shitty little LCD all to yourself, Loner

The HP Omen X35 is 3440x1440.

Input lag is 8ms.

It has Gsync.

It is 35" Ultrawide which is about as big as you want your monitor to be.

It is also 100Hz overclockable to 120Hz. 100-120fps goodness for me while you're stuck at 30fps.

Basically the only thing your OLED has over it is contrast.

But don't let the facts fool you.

3440 x 1440P is less pixels than the 3200x1800 X1X games HErmits like to make fun of.

BLack Object Smearing

SHit COntrast

SHit VIewing ANgles

Frame SKipping

27.9 ms latency

https://www.prad.de/testberichte/test-monitor-aoc-ag352ucg/7/#Betrieb100Hz

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@tryit said:
@GioVela2010 said:
@Juub1990 said:
@Juub1990 said:
@GioVela2010 said:

Stay in yo lane Medium Settings Warrior

>2.5K$ TV

>FauxK

>30fps

>No GSync/Gsync

>Input lag

But hey at least you got nicer blacks and whites lol. Hell it's not like you can't do PC gaming on your OLED TV but you choose to go with subpar console.

1440p

Shit Contrast

No HDR

33ms Input Lag (worst than my OLED

No GSync

Tiny Little Screen

Enjoy your shitty little LCD all to yourself, Loner

WTF are you talking about 1140p?

I have been playing most of my games at 2048×1080 for 9 YEARS now.

WTF indeed

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#49  Edited By TryIt
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@GioVela2010 said:
@tryit said:
@GioVela2010 said:
@Juub1990 said:
@Juub1990 said:
@GioVela2010 said:

Stay in yo lane Medium Settings Warrior

>2.5K$ TV

>FauxK

>30fps

>No GSync/Gsync

>Input lag

But hey at least you got nicer blacks and whites lol. Hell it's not like you can't do PC gaming on your OLED TV but you choose to go with subpar console.

1440p

Shit Contrast

No HDR

33ms Input Lag (worst than my OLED

No GSync

Tiny Little Screen

Enjoy your shitty little LCD all to yourself, Loner

WTF are you talking about 1140p?

I have been playing most of my games at 2048×1080 for 9 YEARS now.

WTF indeed

well actually 8 years.

yes on PC for 8 years now I have been playing most of my games at 2048×1080 resolution

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@tryit said:
@GioVela2010 said:
@tryit said:
@GioVela2010 said:
@Juub1990 said:
@Juub1990 said:

>2.5K$ TV

>FauxK

>30fps

>No GSync/Gsync

>Input lag

But hey at least you got nicer blacks and whites lol. Hell it's not like you can't do PC gaming on your OLED TV but you choose to go with subpar console.

1440p

Shit Contrast

No HDR

33ms Input Lag (worst than my OLED

No GSync

Tiny Little Screen

Enjoy your shitty little LCD all to yourself, Loner

WTF are you talking about 1140p?

I have been playing most of my games at 2048×1080 for 9 YEARS now.

WTF indeed

well actually 8 years.

yes on PC for 8 years now I have been playing most of my games at 2048×1080 resolution

noobody is impressed by 2048x1080