Do Final Fantasy XIII/XIII versus stand a chance?!

[QUOTE="NuclearFreedom"][QUOTE="Beast_Unit"][QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]

[QUOTE="Beast_Unit"]

Beast_Unit

howbout an unbiased graph. last time i saw, GT3 sold more than halo. hell i even think i saw pokemon sold more than Halo

Halo 2 may have been the fastest selling game, but several other games beat it in overall sales...

[QUOTE="Ibacai"]Well, LO could still be very good and surpass FFXIII and FF vs XIII in quality (Sales? no chance) but it's still just an unknown. Blue Dragon? No, I doubt it.Korrigan777

No links?? Eveyrbody knows Sony liesBeast_Unit

Seriously? Every company spins the numbers to make their product look good. Sony doesn't have a monopoly on that.

Let's all remember that sales is not necessarily an indication of quality. There were many games last gen I would have taken over GTA and Halo even though those were the big names.

Kelly Clarksonand Jessica Simpson outsold Peter Gabriel and John Mayer at the height of their popularity... and that certainly wasn't because their music was better.

FFXIII's 1st cutscene will pwn Blue Dragon but Lost Odessey looks very very goodLief_Ericson

LOL it's funny because you're probably right

The squeenix devs said that FFXIII's intro will be the most intense Ever in the series.

and it'll be playable at parts. the game starts with an attack on the floating fortress http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xct7VrBOJuc that's the fortress. most awesome looking futurist city imo.

We've seen bits of this attackin the teaser. here's more: http://youtube.com/watch?v=n0Or3afSxPs

For FFXIIIversus, thedevs said they wanna make theworld andbattle's seamless so you'll be able to knock people out of a building and follow them.

[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"][QUOTE="Beast_Unit"][QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]

[QUOTE="Beast_Unit"]Peter Moore said Halo was the highest selling game last-gen at E3'07Beast_Unit

even though that has nothing to do with this thread, did he really? lol

the best selling game last gen was either Gran Turismo 3, or some pokemon game. 15 million > 8 million (halo 2)

He's telling the truth i saw it in Guiness World Records

[QUOTE="Korrigan777"][QUOTE="Ibacai"]Well, LO could still be very good and surpass FFXIII and FF vs XIII in quality (Sales? no chance) but it's still just an unknown. Blue Dragon? No, I doubt it.Ibacai

Ok it is possible for LO to be a better game, but that's only if everything the FFXIII devs have commented on in interviews is bull and LO's devs whip out all this revolutionary jrpg goodness. Everything i have seen of the game reeeeeeks. the artstyle/direction of the cinematic/gameplay/old skool random battle ugh

When i said FFXIII is an evolution like ff7 was on ps1. those aren't my words but words of the devs making the game. you saying halo is not the best FPS series is subjective in itself, just like you said FF is not the best JRPG.

yeah it is all subjective.

But i still stand by what i said. before blue dragon came out i said. if it and Lo and been released last gen they wouldda been blanked.

ES looks faaaaaaaaaaar better and more original than both Lost odyssey and blue dragonn imo but it's getting blanked cause it aint mist crappy walker ;)

Well, LO could still be very good and surpass FFXIII and FF vs XIII in quality (Sales? no chance) but it's still just an unknown.

Blue Dragon? No, I doubt it.Ibacai

lost odyssey story will crush final fantasy 13s story.benjaminbuckner

Out of curiosity, since Halo sales were mentioned, does anyone know how manu units the Halo franchise has sold to date? Or how far it sits down the list for 'highest selling franchise'? Last I checked the top four were Mario, Pokemon, the Sims and... Final Fantasy.ianuilliam

14.7 Millions, try wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games

I can't wait for FFXIII. :)

I mean, FFXII was solid. But it was just solid, not spectacular. It lacked character development. However, the battle system was fantastic imo. I'm hoping FFXIII is as strong as the PS1 FFs.

The graphics are going to be great and I know we can count on SE to deliver a well rounded game with good atmosphere, great combat, great story, and hopefully better characters this time around, cause that would seriously bring FFXIII to be as great as FFVII/VII/IX.

[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]Out of curiosity, since Halo sales were mentioned, does anyone know how manu units the Halo franchise has sold to date? Or how far it sits down the list for 'highest selling franchise'? Last I checked the top four were Mario, Pokemon, the Sims and... Final Fantasy.haris12121212

14.7 Millions, try wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games

yeah, Gran Turismo 3 matched Halo and Halo 2's sales combined.

[QUOTE="benjaminbuckner"]lost odyssey story will crush final fantasy 13s story.The_PirateKing

seth is also an immortal character is this game, kaim isnt the only one.

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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]Out of curiosity, since Halo sales were mentioned, does anyone know how manu units the Halo franchise has sold to date? Or how far it sits down the list for 'highest selling franchise'? Last I checked the top four were Mario, Pokemon, the Sims and... Final Fantasy.HoldThePhone

14.7 Millions, try wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games

yeah, Gran Turismo 3 matched Halo and Halo 2's sales combined.

Gran Turismo is a huge franchise also. What suprises me is the Sims I remember FF being 3rd place last year, and look now the sims 90millions thats a huge jump.

[QUOTE="The_PirateKing"]~-~Not for me. IMO, the characters are 80% of the story. IIRC, LO has one immortal character you play as that goes through out time. So unless there's a whole crew of immortals that means this one guy is the only person who's going to last through out the game. Great characters interact perfectly with each other, this guy doesn't even have anyone else to work off of. It could be the deepest, greatest plot in video game history but without characters I'm not going to give a rats ass. The question is, how many people feel the way I do.~-~benjaminbuckner

seth is also an immortal character is this game, kaim isnt the only one.

FFXIII has some of the original members of Square working on it. Legends such as Kitase, Nomura, and Uematsu.

So yea, I'm excited for it.

Finale-

just outta curiousity TC did you call yourself "beast_unit" after the beauty and the beast unit of MGS4 ?

That's like asking if Halo 3 stands a chance. Blue Dragon is a bland, generic RPG with boring characters and story, and while Lost Odyssey looks really cool, its quality has yet to be proven.

I'm looking forward to all these games.

[QUOTE="Finale-"]

FFXIII has some of the original members of Square working on it. Legends such as Kitase, Nomura, and Uematsu.

So yea, I'm excited for it.

blazinpuertoroc

He is doing it with Hamauzu

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FFXIII has some of the original members of Square working on it. Legends such as Kitase, Nomura, and Uematsu.

So yea, I'm excited for it.

Finale-

He is doing it with Hamauzu

good good, he does better with assistance (FFX).

Sakaguchi sucked on squaresoft, made the two worst final fantasy games ever made, final fantasy 1, and 2. Nomura, Ito, kitase, toriyama, and matsuno are much better game developers, then Sakaguchi.

The reason why I could care less about LO, and last remnant is the fact that not one of those developers I have stated has anything to do with the game.

Sakaguchi sucked on squaresoft, made the two worst final fantasy games ever made, final fantasy 1, and 2. Nomura, Ito, kitase, toriyama, and matsuno are much better game developers, then Sakaguchi. numba1234

wow...... im shocked

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Final Flopancy: the 13th time

Seriously, how many sequels do we need? When will the story come to an end?

KoreanX

The stories have eneded..at the end of each game.. FF X-2 was the only sequel in the entire series.

Offtopic: Hey Korean, which are those animes in your sig? They seen interesting. PM me with the answer if you can, thanks.

Back to topic: After seeing that Sakaguchi BD isnt that much (always new that, specially after last year's TGS) I see pretty bleak destiny for LO as well, unless Sakaguchi's touch come back. Youm the one he lost after FF VI, VII. The one he lost when he almost bankrupet Square soft with Spirits Within (making Sony bail them out), and so on. SO...if FFXIII/vsXIII has a chance against Sakaguchi's new IPs:IMO, if a miracle doenst happen, FF will destroys both without mercy.

Well, FF is a proven franchise with many AAA and AAs. Blue Dragon is a B.

So I guess they stand a chance.

[QUOTE="numba1234"]Sakaguchi sucked on squaresoft, made the two worst final fantasy games ever made, final fantasy 1, and 2. Nomura, Ito, kitase, toriyama, and matsuno are much better game developers, then Sakaguchi. NuclearFreedom

wow...... im shocked

And on a side note, FF XII wasn't that good. There was insufficient interactivity during battles, the characters felt generic since they weren't unique and could all be leveled the exact same way, and the story wasn't as good as VII, VIII or X's. I mean it was still a great game, but not as good as I expected. Just personal opinion.osirisomeomi

i agree.

but just to let you know the team who made FFXII had very big issues And weren't the exact sameguys who made FFX. the director of 12 left halfway. The remaining guys had a lot of disagreements apparently. Remember the game took i think 5 years cause of weird delays !!

here's some info "Executive producer Akitoshi Kawazu was pleased by Famitsu's rating but admitted that he felt the game's storyline was somewhat rushed in comparison to other Final Fantasy games"

FF13's devs have acknoweledged 12's shortcomings. They're going back to X's character specialization and levelling up complexity. You've seen the crazy camera system in the teaser. I think i'm anticipating this game as much as lemmings anticipated ME and bioshock lol

"Director: Motomu Toriyama
(FINAL FANTASY VII, FINAL FANTASY X, FINAL FANTASY X-2)

Art director: Isamu Kamikokuryo
(FINAL FANTASY X, FINAL FANTASY XII)

Composer: Masashi Hamauzu
(FINAL FANTASY X, DIRGE of CERBERUS -FINAL FANTASY VII-)

Producer: Yoshinori Kitase
(FINAL FANTASY series)

Movie director: Eiji Fujii
(FINAL FANTASY: The Spirits Within, FINAL FANTASY XII)"

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[QUOTE="numba1234"]Sakaguchi sucked on squaresoft, made the two worst final fantasy games ever made, final fantasy 1, and 2. Nomura, Ito, kitase, toriyama, and matsuno are much better game developers, then Sakaguchi. numba1234

wow...... im shocked

Final Flopancy: the 13th time

Seriously, how many sequels do we need? When will the story come to an end?

Beast_Unit

ahh 13 games and clearly you never even played one.

With Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey???

Beast_Unit

[QUOTE="osirisomeomi"]And on a side note, FF XII wasn't that good. There was insufficient interactivity during battles, the characters felt generic since they weren't unique and could all be leveled the exact same way, and the story wasn't as good as VII, VIII or X's. I mean it was still a great game, but not as good as I expected. Just personal opinion.Korrigan777

i agree.

but just to let you know the team who made FFXII had very big issues And weren't the exact sameguys who made FFX. the director of 12 left halfway. The remaining guys had a lot of disagreements apparently. Remember the game took i think 5 years cause of weird delays !!

here's some info "Executive producer Akitoshi Kawazu was pleased by Famitsu's rating but admitted that he felt the game's storyline was somewhat rushed in comparison to other Final Fantasy games"

FF13's devs have acknoweledged 12's shortcomings. They're going back to X's character specialization and levelling up complexity. You've seen the crazy camera system in the teaser. I think i'm anticipating this game as much as lemmings anticipated ME and bioshock lol

"Director: Motomu Toriyama
(FINAL FANTASY VII, FINAL FANTASY X, FINAL FANTASY X-2)

Art director: Isamu Kamikokuryo
(FINAL FANTASY X, FINAL FANTASY XII)

Composer: Masashi Hamauzu
(FINAL FANTASY X, DIRGE of CERBERUS -FINAL FANTASY VII-)

Producer: Yoshinori Kitase
(FINAL FANTASY series)

Movie director: Eiji Fujii
(FINAL FANTASY: The Spirits Within, FINAL FANTASY XII)"

Thanks for the info, I'm glad you agree. I'm looking forward to this game more than any other, by far.

I think that it can get more than a 6.

Weird though that craptacular DoC has a better score.

I think that it can get more than a 6.

Weird though that craptacular DoC has a better score.

tegovoltio

just outta curiousity TC did you call yourself "beast_unit" after the beauty and the beast unit of MGS4 ?

Korrigan777

With Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey???

Beast_Unit

THe question should be does blue dragon and lost odyssey stand a chance against FFXIII and FFvXIII? and the answer is NO. LMAO

Was this a serious thread?