Do games like GOW3 deserve full price or not ??

[QUOTE="Revolution316"]

i made 100 threads about this with 100% of SW behind me. i speak for every one when i say....single player only games should only cost 35$. saying that gow3 has reply value is laughable. halo reach is the meaning of reply value. i bet most of you cows dont even touch ur gow3 and heavy rain games.

madsnakehhh

OK, so i assume that Lemmings are complaining about ME being $60 right?

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[QUOTE="Revolution316"]

i made 100 threads about this with 100% of SW behind me. i speak for every one when i say....single player only games should only cost 35$. saying that gow3 has reply value is laughable. halo reach is the meaning of reply value. i bet most of you cows dont even touch ur gow3 and heavy rain games.

Revolution316

OK, so i assume that Lemmings are complaining about ME being $60 right?

You said single player, and Mass Effect is Single Player, then again, i forgot that double standars are a rule here in SW.

i am of course talking about other game in the same genre like Bayonetta, NG, DMC ...etc

do these dereve to be fully priced ???? yes or no.

answer: BIG fat YES

reason:

Coz they are more fun than any other genre imo.

Despite being single play games, they have great replay value, especially when the combat is good enough like in NG.

Those who complain of low replayiblity can just watch some walkthrough on youtube, and stop complaining.

i am of course talking about other game in the same genre like Bayonetta, NG, DMC ...etc

do these dereve to be fully priced ???? yes or no.

answer: BIG fat YES

reason:

Coz they are more fun than any other genre imo.

Despite being single play games, they have great replay value, especially when the combat is good enough like in NG.

Those who complain of low replayiblity can just watch some walkthrough on youtube, and stop complaining.

no they dont i would not pay that amount for a short campaign like the one god of war 3 has. it either has to have an engrossing multiplayer or at least a significant single player (such as mass effect 2). my first playthrough of me2 was around 35 hours. that to me is getting my money worth. most gow3 players would have to go through their game 4 times just to get the same amount of play time as i get in my 1 playthrough.

"Games like GOW3"
"You people"

Do people realize how hateful they sound over a video game?

Fun is too subjective to justify a price tag. biggest_loser

i made 100 threads about this with 100% of SW behind me. i speak for every one when i say....single player only games should only cost 35$. saying that gow3 has reply value is laughable. halo reach is the meaning of reply value. i bet most of you cows dont even touch ur gow3 and heavy rain games.

Revolution316

no they dont i would not pay that amount for a short campaign like the one god of war 3 has. it either has to have an engrossing multiplayer or at least a significant single player (such as mass effect 2). my first playthrough of me2 was around 35 hours. that to me is getting my money worth. most gow3 players would have to go through their game 4 times just to get the same amount of play time as i get in my 1 playthrough.

GrannyGoat

And what's wrong with that? if they have played 4 times through the game, then it means that they loved the game, therefore the price was worth.

no they dont i would not pay that amount for a short campaign like the one god of war 3 has. it either has to have an engrossing multiplayer or at least a significant single player (such as mass effect 2). my first playthrough of me2 was around 35 hours. that to me is getting my money worth. most gow3 players would have to go through their game 4 times just to get the same amount of play time as i get in my 1 playthrough.

GrannyGoat

[QUOTE="Revolution316"]

i made 100 threads about this with 100% of SW behind me. i speak for every one when i say....single player only games should only cost 35$. saying that gow3 has reply value is laughable. halo reach is the meaning of reply value. i bet most of you cows dont even touch ur gow3 and heavy rain games.

ermacness

yeah, I myself acknowledge that regularly.

and I've yet to see Revolution hype that game, so you're talking to the wrong guy there.

10 hour gameplay, no online component, no multiplayer. They should probably be $50. themyth01

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[QUOTE="Revolution316"]

i made 100 threads about this with 100% of SW behind me. i speak for every one when i say....single player only games should only cost 35$. saying that gow3 has reply value is laughable. halo reach is the meaning of reply value. i bet most of you cows dont even touch ur gow3 and heavy rain games.

HavocV3

yeah, I myself acknowledge that regularly.

and I've yet to see Revolution hype that game, so you're talking to the wrong guy there.

I paid $60 for GOWIII, and I truly regret doing it. I played it once, beat it, and haven't touched it since.

[QUOTE="themyth01"] 10 hour gameplay, no online component, no multiplayer. They should probably be $50. II_Seraphim_II

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="themyth01"] 10 hour gameplay, no online component, no multiplayer. They should probably be $50. themyth01

And as far as I know about last gen is that games dropped in price pretty rapidly.

It was easy enough to find quality games by the truck load for $5-$10. Probably because last gen was filled with so many quality titles (more competition), and the dev costs were so much lower. Some games actually started out at a base price of $20-$30. I was able to support three consoles on my $5 a week allowance :D

This gen games start out at $60, and won't drop from that price for months and months, and it's hard for me to bring myself to spend that kind of money even with a job.........

Now I just wait till Steam has weekend deals, and never really dabble in the console universe. Far too costly me. I like when my games last.

i thought the game was judged by its quality, and any blind man can spot quality especislly when it's that high in GOW3 .......... i don't get those who play the game once and then regret buying it, the dev. have put trophies (useless imo but can't complain), harder difficulties, special arena's ...etc you can double ur playtime easily with these, not to mention playing for fun just to master the combat, to innovate combos ..etc. i believe that you are the ones to be blamed, otherwise dun buy, watch it on youtube as i said.

i thought the game was judged by its quality, and any blind man can spot quality especislly when it's that high in GOW3 .......... i don't get those who play the game once and then regret buying it, the dev. have put trophies (useless imo but can't complain), harder difficulties, special arena's ...etc you can double ur playtime easily with these, not to mention playing for fun just to master the combat, to innovate combos ..etc. i believe that you are the ones to be blamed, otherwise dun buy, watch it on youtube as i said.

2mrw

I'm one to replay a game simply because it was so good the first time, and I'm sure others are the same way. You can't blame someone for not wanting to get the trophies (I personally don't care about achievements in any way), and you especially can't blame them for not liking a game as much as you do.

I bought Half Life 1 for $4 way long time ago, and because of that I thought $50 was more than worth it to play Half Life 2. Granted I did in fact get some online games with Half Life 2, I have still played HL2 probably 5 or 6 times including the episodes, and it's roughly 14ish hours each time I do, so I've gotten a ton of gameplay out of that. I wouldn't have spent $50 if I had doubts it'd be good, but I was so pleased by HL1 that I had 0 doubts. Game of the Decade!

On the other hand I was not impressed with God of War, and it was a total regret for me to buy. Problem is that it was just an 8 hour game which makes it hurt even more knowing you spent full price for it. I'm not going to spend extra time playing it just so instead of an 80 hit combo I can shoot for a 90 hit combo in the same area. That sounds ultra lame. Also, harder difficulties have been around forever.

Basically with the inception of multiplayer, extra modes, and all that jazz the bar has now been set a bit higher for what a $60 game should include. It really shouldn't be an 8 hour game anymore. Just like when the N64 and PS1 came out the days of 1-2 hour long 2D shooters/platformers (difficulty was high in some which increased playtime pretty substantially, but was still artificially lengthened) began to disappear. That's just the way things go.

I do know there is a creeping mentality that is spreading, and that is that if a game doesn't have ONLINE MP, it's not worth owning.

It's interesting, and it's not just SW, it's people in our everyday life.

SolidTy

It seems like this is quickly becoming the sad truth this gen, where gamers are dismissing games simply because they lack online play.

Games before this gen were $50...themyth01

They were also far easier and cheaper to develop.

Its simple, if other games have to be paid in full price, then so should GOW3. It wouldnt be fair for the developers who develop a game with a genre with a lack of replay value. Instead of lowering the price of particular games, the standard price of games should be lowered.

[QUOTE="themyth01"] Games before this gen were $50...SpinoRaptor24

They were also far easier and cheaper to develop.

Previous gen games would have been difficult to develop.

Well I paid full price for GOW3, so yes.

[QUOTE="Revolution316"]

i made 100 threads about this with 100% of SW behind me. i speak for every one when i say....single player only games should only cost 35$. saying that gow3 has reply value is laughable. halo reach is the meaning of reply value. i bet most of you cows dont even touch ur gow3 and heavy rain games.

ermacness

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"] Games before this gen were $50...NaturalDisplay

They were also far easier and cheaper to develop.

Previous gen games would have been difficult to develop.

Not when you factor graphic fidelity expected out of 2005 hardware in 2010. The budgets for a modern game are ****ing huge.

Older consoles may have been "harder" to code per person, but the amount of people making one big budget game is almost that of a Holly Wood major motion picture.

Art assets alone cost SO much more money this gen thanks to that fancy HD (or "sub HD" ;) ) graphic expectation.

it boggles the mind that a bunch of young forum posters think they know how much a game should cost, or how much work really goes into them.

35 dollars? Not gonna happen for a new console game that cost 30 million to make.

Previous gen games would have been difficult to develop.NaturalDisplay

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]Fun is too subjective to justify a price tag. 2mrw

The price should be relative to the costs of development, manufacturing, promotion and distribution.mattsnibbs

i made 100 threads about this with 100% of SW behind me. i speak for every one when i say....single player only games should only cost 35$. saying that gow3 has reply value is laughable. halo reach is the meaning of reply value. i bet most of you cows dont even touch ur gow3 and heavy rain games.

Revolution316

Execpt that your 100% wrong. Like that funny thread about killing SP games. You actually made all fanboys from around the wall come together against you and say you were wrong. Im guessing you must of been bugging out after seeing everyone go against you and made it change in your head that they were your friends and were with you.

I think if someone wants a game he/she will always be ready to pay 'full' price for that title.. it wont matter whether its just a sp experience or have multiplayer..

I bought GOW3, knowing it didnt offer mp or a 30 hours long campaign.. why? simply cause i love the series and i wanted the game... and guess what its worth as much as games like KZ2, Geow2, MW2, Uncharted2 etc etc which along solid sp campaigns offer great online...

i am of course talking about other game in the same genre like Bayonetta, NG, DMC ...etc

do these dereve to be fully priced ???? yes or no.

answer: BIG fat YES

reason:

Coz they are more fun than any other genre imo.

Despite being single play games, they have great replay value, especially when the combat is good enough like in NG.

Those who complain of low replayiblity can just watch some walkthrough on youtube, and stop complaining.

2mrw

Maybe for some people. Personally I will only be giving it a rent.

I bought GoW3 for full price (collector's edition actually) but if I were to go back I'm not sure I would buy it at full price. Of course I'm going to play it again at some point and I couldn't help myself from holding back on the end of the trilogy, plus it was a lot of fun, but I just don't know if I could justify the price tag now.

Looking at the games on my shelf now actually, I'd pay full price for only a few of them. LittleBigPlanet, Dragon Age: Origins, Final Fantasy XIII, Mass Effect 1 & 2, The Orange Box... yeah, I need to be better about my money. :P

If ODST can sell for full price, I dont see why GoW3 cannot be charged full price

[QUOTE="2mrw"]

i thought the game was judged by its quality, and any blind man can spot quality especislly when it's that high in GOW3 .......... i don't get those who play the game once and then regret buying it, the dev. have put trophies (useless imo but can't complain), harder difficulties, special arena's ...etc you can double ur playtime easily with these, not to mention playing for fun just to master the combat, to innovate combos ..etc. i believe that you are the ones to be blamed, otherwise dun buy, watch it on youtube as i said.

treedoor

I'm one to replay a game simply because it was so good the first time, and I'm sure others are the same way. You can't blame someone for not wanting to get the trophies (I personally don't care about achievements in any way), and you especially can't blame them for not liking a game as much as you do.

I bought Half Life 1 for $4 way long time ago, and because of that I thought $50 was more than worth it to play Half Life 2. Granted I did in fact get some online games with Half Life 2, I have still played HL2 probably 5 or 6 times including the episodes, and it's roughly 14ish hours each time I do, so I've gotten a ton of gameplay out of that. I wouldn't have spent $50 if I had doubts it'd be good, but I was so pleased by HL1 that I had 0 doubts. Game of the Decade!

On the other hand I was not impressed with God of War, and it was a total regret for me to buy. Problem is that it was just an 8 hour game which makes it hurt even more knowing you spent full price for it. I'm not going to spend extra time playing it just so instead of an 80 hit combo I can shoot for a 90 hit combo in the same area. That sounds ultra lame. Also, harder difficulties have been around forever.

Basically with the inception of multiplayer, extra modes, and all that jazz the bar has now been set a bit higher for what a $60 game should include. It really shouldn't be an 8 hour game anymore. Just like when the N64 and PS1 came out the days of 1-2 hour long 2D shooters/platformers (difficulty was high in some which increased playtime pretty substantially, but was still artificially lengthened) began to disappear. That's just the way things go.

An awesome game that lasts 8 hours is worth more to me than a mediocre game that lasts 20 hours. Obviously, the worth of a particular game is subjective, as not everyone is going to like that particular game. You don't have to buy it at all, or you can wait for a price drop.

I've not finished plenty of long games due to their incredible suckage, so I don't care how long a game is necessarily as long as it's awesome.

And, if it is awesome, it is worth full price.

I do know there is a creeping mentality that is spreading, and that is that if a game doesn't have ONLINE MP, it's not worth owning.

It's interesting, and it's not just SW, it's people in our everyday life.

SolidTy

I'm like that.

I see no reason to own a game unless it is an RPG, Fighter or Shooter (with multiplayer)

If I had the money, I probably would buy 4 hour single player games. However, I tend to look for replay value. There's only so many times you can beat God of War 3 on the hardest difficulty. (I use GoW3 since he mentioned it)

It's based on preferences. For me, I like to compete (in all aspects of life, not just video games) so playing fighters and shooters never gets old to me. Well..shooters did get old for awhile because they no longer take any skill and are made so that even blind people can play them. However, I still play 3rd Strike to this day. Some people can probably put 200 hours into a Bayonetta or God of War and only put 10 hours into a CoD or CS.