Do not get fooled. NSW is another failure in progress

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#53  Edited By tjandmia
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Yup, failure incoming. Anyone buying a Nintendo console over any of the others is just throwing money away. When the ten million of so people who buy every Nintendo console have bought it, sales are going to dry up. Of course the Nintendo fanboys are going to go into reality denial mode and buttrage over it, but it's true.

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#57  Edited By stuff238
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Switch is a failure.

Nintendo has a shrinking hardcore fanbase every gen. Slowly the man children grow up. Even though it may take 40+ years, they grow up and upgrade to PS4.

Only the hardest of hardcore bought a wii u and a couple million casuals who didn't know any better.

That is PROOF nintendo's hardcore fanbase is around 10 million. Once they get their console, sales will start tanking.

Sure, it will probably outsell wii u, but LOL if you think it will outsell Gamecube/Xbox. No chance.

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#58 FireEmblem_Man
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@stuff238 said:

Switch is a failure.

Nintendo has a shrinking hardcore fanbase every gen. Slowly the man children grow up. Even though it may take 40+ years, they grow up and upgrade to PS4.

Only the hardest of hardcore bought a wii u and a couple million casuals who didn't know any better.

That is PROOF nintendo's hardcore fanbase is around 10 million. Once they get their console, sales will start tanking.

Sure, it will probably outsell wii u, but LOL if you think it will outsell Gamecube/Xbox. No chance.

That is all......

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#60 mojito1988
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I know several people that own a switch that have never bought a Nintendo console before. If this is true for many others, (and I suspect that it is), this will be a VERY successful console.

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#61 Techhog89
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You might want to take another look at Wii software sales, buddy. Nintendo accounted for less than half of them.

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#62 Aki2017
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Since Nintendo is both the developer and publisher of their games - the profit margin is much higher. Also there games sell in the millions. they get their money back

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#63 Epak_
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Skyrim and Doom seem to be at the top 4 here in Europe and I'm really glad to see them there.

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#64  Edited By Techhog89
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@stuff238 said:

Switch is a failure.

Nintendo has a shrinking hardcore fanbase every gen. Slowly the man children grow up. Even though it may take 40+ years, they grow up and upgrade to PS4.

Only the hardest of hardcore bought a wii u and a couple million casuals who didn't know any better.

That is PROOF nintendo's hardcore fanbase is around 10 million. Once they get their console, sales will start tanking.

Sure, it will probably outsell wii u, but LOL if you think it will outsell Gamecube/Xbox. No chance.

So, you think sales will grind to a halt after the holidays are over? 1-2 million per year worldwide? Not even Pokemon or Smash will boost sales?

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#65 Celsius765
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If the eshop best sellers list is any indicator 3rd parties are doing just fine.

1.Rocket League 2.Skyrim 3.Super Mario Odyssey

4.Stardew Valley 5. Mk8 6.Overcooked

7.Zelda:Botw 8.Battle Chef 9. I am Setsuna

10.UNO 11.Minecraft 12. Jackbox 4

13. Wonderboy 14. Sonic Mania 15. Snipperclips

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#66 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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Record sales, two top games of the year, 3rd party support. Nintendo might as well close shop Total failure.

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#67 Techhog89
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@Celsius765 said:

If the eshop best sellers list is any indicator 3rd parties are doing just fine.

1.Rocket League 2.Skyrim 3.Super Mario Odyssey

4.Stardew Valley 5. Mk8 6.Overcooked

7.Zelda:Botw 8.Battle Chef 9. I am Setsuna

10.UNO 11.Minecraft 12. Jackbox 4

13. Wonderboy 14. Sonic Mania 15. Snipperclips

He's going to say that indies and games he doesn't like don't count.

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#68 Xabiss
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The Switch is doing great... If anyone says any different they are a butt hurt fanboy!

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#69 henrythefifth
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I just think it's good Nintendo are doing their own original games instead just having multiplat games on their machine.

That's what X1X needs to do if it wants to succeed. Exclusives. Exclusives is what sells consoles.

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#70 Shewgenja
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This is the most fun I've had this generation. So many genuinely good games coming out for the ps4, pc, and Switch. Not that the Xbox is going to have to settle into a rather quickly makeshift third place, I will thoroughly enjoy the old Wii60 guard collapsing on each other. Eternally buttmad sheep and John Wayne Bobbited Lems trying to vie for most mediocre fanboy award of the century while most of us appreciate the fruits of Sony and Nintendo's labor to make great consoles with standout exclusives...

Anyone else want in on this bag of popcorn I got going? Great systems with great games always get my money.

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#71 GameboyTroy
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@mojito1988 said:

I know several people that own a switch that have never bought a Nintendo console before. If this is true for many others, (and I suspect that it is), this will be a VERY successful console.

Which means they're probably casuals or they like to use other gaming systems.

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#72 stuff238
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@techhog89: That is correct. Switch sales will drop off drastically. It is just a slightly better Wii u. They took the Wii u, made it wireless and detached the sides into controllers.

No one likes Nintendo in the real world. No 3rd party games. Terrible online. And massive game droughts. There is so much more barriers for this machine.

Nintendo has done everything wrong and people will see that....minus the delusional Nintendo fanboys who actually pretend to have fun with Zelda when it’s one of the worst game series.

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@stuff238 said:

Switch is a failure.

Nintendo has a shrinking hardcore fanbase every gen. Slowly the man children grow up. Even though it may take 40+ years, they grow up and upgrade to PS4.

Only the hardest of hardcore bought a wii u and a couple million casuals who didn't know any better.

That is PROOF nintendo's hardcore fanbase is around 10 million. Once they get their console, sales will start tanking.

Sure, it will probably outsell wii u, but LOL if you think it will outsell Gamecube/Xbox. No chance.

@tjandmia said:

Yup, failure incoming. Anyone buying a Nintendo console over any of the others is just throwing money away. When the ten million of so people who buy every Nintendo console have bought it, sales are going to dry up. Of course the Nintendo fanboys are going to go into reality denial mode and buttrage over it, but it's true.

Do your homework. Switch is expected to sell 14 million by its 1st birthday. WiiU lifetime was 13.5 million.

Gamecube was about 22 million and Xbox was 24 million

Switch will hit 25 million by holiday 2018.

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#74  Edited By Sgt_Crow
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@GameboyTroy: Chapeau. Nice assumptions, as always.

I’d like to remind you that the Switch is the only console with two AAAA titles this year. And they’re actual games instead of interactive movies too!

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#75 FLOPPAGE_50
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@quadknight said:

Lems not content with bashing the wildly successful PS4 have now resorted to attacking the Switch. If the NSW is a “failure in progress” what is the Xbone ?? People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. Lems should worry about their flop that is the Xbone before worrying about other systems.

whoa whoa whoa

why you grouping that guy with lems, I sure as hell don't agree with his opinion

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#76 FLOPPAGE_50
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@kingtito: “Neutral”, the same way you are neutral? ? GTFO KingButthurt, he’s a closet lem like you. Your head is so deep in MS’ butt if you sneezed they’d get the hiccups.

This is a prime example of you "cows" derailing threads over the XB1X

Dude doesn't even mention Xbox once and you somehow turn this into another fanboy circlejerk.

This is a prime example to mods and co why SW is down in the gutters.

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#77 DrLostRib
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was nintendoges like a nyaDC alt or something because it looks like he got nuked

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#78  Edited By FLOPPAGE_50
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@Shewgenja said:

This is the most fun I've had this generation. So many genuinely good games coming out for the ps4, pc, and Switch. Not that the Xbox is going to have to settle into a rather quickly makeshift third place, I will thoroughly enjoy the old Wii60 guard collapsing on each other. Eternally buttmad sheep and John Wayne Bobbited Lems trying to vie for most mediocre fanboy award of the century while most of us appreciate the fruits of Sony and Nintendo's labor to make great consoles with standout exclusives...

Anyone else want in on this bag of popcorn I got going? Great systems with great games always get my money.

Your argument is always so bizzare.

I'm in the same mind state as you, this is the most fun I've had this generation, and I own PS4/XB1X + PC. Switch is high on my list at the moment, despite their lack of 3rd party support.

at the end of the day, it's all subjective brah

and i still believe the NSWITCH has massive potential.

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#80 drummerdave9099
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@2mrw said:

The console is selling amazingly good, but software is where the money is. Looking at the switch games that are charting, they are all Nintendo's, splatoon, mario games ..etc.

It is a similar Wii case where Nintendo sold 80 millions of those but 3rd party support faded away very early. 3rd party developers are showing interest and are porting stuff but I wonder for how long since switch owners do not really care about those. They need their mario and call it a day.

Nintendo could be selling 100 millions of those but funny thing console will remain in a way, niche, since people are only buying nintendo games, but is that really what nintendo wants ? is it even a profitable practise? I guess this will determine if it is a failure or not.

Switch is different in a lot of ways and you know it.

Nintendo is targeting the young adult crowd with their advertising

Switch has enough power to run the games. It also has the controllers to play them.

Wii was all about making those cheap party games. People aren't gonna buy that crap on Switch.

It's pretty telling already with Switch getting Rocket League, Skyrim, LA Noire, and Doom. We're not talking Raving Rabbids and Red Steel here.

It's fair to say some might leave, but lets wait and see. Nintendo finally has a system "gamers" want to get.

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#81  Edited By FLOPPAGE_50
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@drlostrib said:

was nintendoges like a nyaDC alt or something because it looks like he got nuked

you're slow breh

he's over at systemwars.net getting rekt by hermits/cows/sheep and even lems

they really hate him over there

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#82 Litchie  Online
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Skyrim has been #2 most sold eshop game since it was released pretty much and Rocket League on #1. But we can act like only Nintendos games sell if you want.

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#83  Edited By FLOPPAGE_50
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@Litchie said:

Skyrim has been #2 most sold eshop game since it was released pretty much and Rocket League on #1. But we can act like only Nintendos games sell if you want.

Playing Skyrim on the go is a MASSIVE thing.

I'd play this on a plane/bus ride any time

I usually just bring my 3DS on the plane, but even then it's not as immersive as a game like Skyrim can be.

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#84 osan0
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if the switch manages wii numbers and hardware and software over its lifetime then that would be an absolutely huge success for nintendo. to go from the wiiu back to wii levels would be a remarkable recovery.

3rd party AAA multiplats are not the only way to make money. i mean TC is right. chances are bethesdas efforts are not going to pan out and the big blockbusters like COD, creed, battlefont and so on are going to stay away from the switch. but the switch doesnt need them to be a success. nintendo themsleves are selling plenty of software and the noise from smaller developers is pretty positive. i do think nintendo should also pursue AA developers (the likes of obsidian, stardock and the guys who make divinty) to either get ports or make exclusive switch content also.

but yeah....over its life time the switch probably isnt going to have much of a huge blockbuster (in terms of budget) roster. but it should have a very interesting selection of games.

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Switch is doing great why even pretend like it isn't, this is the switch at a relatively high price point and lacking certain titles that have appeal beyond traditional Nintendo fans, things like Pokemon, another 12 months which will see further discounts and more software I see no reason to think the switch won't continue to perform strongly.

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#86  Edited By FLOPPAGE_50
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@sonny2dap said:

Switch is doing great why even pretend like it isn't, this is the switch at a relatively high price point and lacking certain titles that have appeal beyond traditional Nintendo fans, things like Pokemon, another 12 months which will see further discounts and more software I see no reason to think the switch won't continue to perform strongly.

I honestly believe Pokemon will be the the game(s) that make the system climb up the charts fast.

Pokemon Go was a random craze but it left an impact, it really spread the franchise all over the world. (it was already big but a lot of youngins/new gamers)

I know people today who still play Pokemon GO.

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#87 indzman
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lol Switch

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#88  Edited By superbuuman
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Pokemon Switch..lol..just wait till that is release..mega tsunami of salty tears for haters. :P

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#89 illmatic87
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But Animal Crossing is cute.

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@stuff238 said:

@techhog89: That is correct. Switch sales will drop off drastically. It is just a slightly better Wii u. They took the Wii u, made it wireless and detached the sides into controllers.

No one likes Nintendo in the real world. No 3rd party games. Terrible online. And massive game droughts. There is so much more barriers for this machine.

Nintendo has done everything wrong and people will see that....minus the delusional Nintendo fanboys who actually pretend to have fun with Zelda when it’s one of the worst game series.

Perhaps you shouldn't use the word delusional when every single thing in your post meets that description. Not a single accurate claim.

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#91 Litchie  Online
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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:
@Litchie said:

Skyrim has been #2 most sold eshop game since it was released pretty much and Rocket League on #1. But we can act like only Nintendos games sell if you want.

Playing Skyrim on the go is a MASSIVE thing.

I'd play this on a plane/bus ride any time

I usually just bring my 3DS on the plane, but even then it's not as immersive as a game like Skyrim can be.

Yup, and you're far from alone thinking this.

But let's totally ignore that.
SWITCH IS DOOOOOOOMED!! Yeah you guys. Switch is totally doomed.

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#92 Techhog89
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@stuff238 said:

@techhog89: That is correct. Switch sales will drop off drastically. It is just a slightly better Wii u. They took the Wii u, made it wireless and detached the sides into controllers.

No one likes Nintendo in the real world. No 3rd party games. Terrible online. And massive game droughts. There is so much more barriers for this machine.

Nintendo has done everything wrong and people will see that....minus the delusional Nintendo fanboys who actually pretend to have fun with Zelda when it’s one of the worst game series.

Okay, so, quick question: where do the Nintendo fans who bought the 3DS go? Mobile, even though mainline Pokemon won't be there? Also, what's your exact prediction for lifetime sales, and do you think its life will be cut short?

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#93  Edited By SecretPolice
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Bait & Switch... Vern, Vern, when will they learn? Nuff said. :P

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#94 deactivated-642321fb121ca
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@xhawk27 said:

Almost zero 3rd party support.

All previews have said way too many cut scenes, constant dialogue issues. Thought Sony games were only movies.

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#95 kingtito
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@quadknight said:
@kingtito said:
@quadknight said:

@kingtito: “Neutral”, the same way you are neutral? ? GTFO KingButthurt, he’s a closet lem like you. Your head is so deep in MS’ butt if you sneezed they’d get the hiccups.

Nah I'm not neutral quack, I'm anti Sony fanboy...in other words, anti-cow. In reality, I don't see a need to take sides when it comes to video games or the consoles. You on the other hand, not so much. HUUUGGGEEEE difference between you and I quack. I enjoy the best of all worlds while you limit yourself.

Nah, you're a lemming in denial. ? You're just too embarrassed to admit you're a lem because MS is getting their ass handed to them this gen and you lems have a weak presence in this forum.

Hahaha that Sony shit is making you crazy quack. I've already admitted to favoring MS. That's no secret but I've always been more of an anti-cow but for SWs purposes I'm a lem. I have no problem with that quack.

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#96 kingtito
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@quadknight said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:
@quadknight said:

@kingtito: Yea right.

? “Hes not a lem” even though his post history shows he is. GTFO KingButthurt, you’re not convincing anyone here. I’ve seen him worshipping the Xflop too many times in threads to be fooled by your bullshit.

Do you actually re-read the crap that you type? What a load of drivel.

At least you're consistent.

? The mere fact the OP has rabid lems like you and Kingbutthurt defending him in this thread confirms he's a lem.

No one defended him you fool. I said he's not a lem but never defending anything he said in his post. I'm going to assume you don't actually read the threads you post in. You couldn't possibly given the shit you say

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#97  Edited By jcrame10
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@KBFloYd: really, your PC could play PS3 exclusives?

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#98 jcrame10
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@kingtito: Wii had fewer exclusives and even fewer that were actually good. Super Mario galaxy 1 and 2 can’t support an entire gen.

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#99 2Chalupas
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I expected it to do much better than Wii-U, but somewhere around 3DS rather than a runaway success like Wii (or even PS4). It is, afterall, pretty much a 3DS replacement moreso than a true console replacement. The cheap dock doesn' t change that, the thing *is* a tablet.

Looks like that is sort of playing out so far. Will be interesting to see if it can remain competitive over 2 or 3 years, or if it will start to slide - particularly once the "next gen" machines comes about in the next couple years.

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#100  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@sonny2dap said:

Switch is doing great why even pretend like it isn't, this is the switch at a relatively high price point and lacking certain titles that have appeal beyond traditional Nintendo fans, things like Pokemon, another 12 months which will see further discounts and more software I see no reason to think the switch won't continue to perform strongly.

People have some double standards in regards to Nintendo. Can't even decide if they even want them to be successful or another fail (I think the latter).