Do people actually care if a game is 640 or 1080?

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#51 schu
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it does make a big difference..not only does it get rid of jags but it makes textures more clear and real looking or at least not like muddy piles of crap
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#52 Marth6781
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Yes, esp. since lems and cows constantly bash the wii for not having HD, but act like its some godsend when pc's and even the ORIGINAL XBOX had it!!!
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#53 XenogearsMaster
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Games look significantly better in HD... Sorry.
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#54 WatsonC
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Seriously does anyone actually care if a game is 1080,720,640 etc etc? I find it very sad if someone actually does care. It doesnt make a big difference, not even noticeable unless you compare the resolutions against eachother, and even then its minuscule. Does it make the game any less fun? No.... If developers feel the need to do so, or it makes it easier to develop and get higher performance out of the game then heck, I say make all the 640 games you like. Anyone else agree?bri360

smells like someones trying to defend Halo 640p

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#55 elektrixxx
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I don't really care, but if the option is there I will take full advantage of it.
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#56 legend26
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i honestly dont care. im not much of a tehcno genius and i see no need for. i just want 1 thing from my games...FUN. apperently people dont care about fun no more becouse all they want are shiny faces and no jaggies
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#57 leviathan91
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I somewhat care. Jaggies can be annoying but I've dealt with them before. What I don't understand is MS letting Halo 3 to be 640p when it's their biggest title ever to come on the 360. To me, it's laughable.
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#58 Mad_Rhetoric
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I care, but its not that big of a deal
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#59 Zeliard9
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Artist mock-up of Sonic 2 in HD:

Super Metroid in HD:

Nintendo, if you don't go with HD for your next console, I'm smacking you. Think of how utterly godlike Super Mario Galaxy would look in HD.

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#60 tubbyc
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There is a signifigant difference between upscaled images and native. Anyone who tells you otherwise is wrong and probably has no idea what they are talking about.

I always game using my PC on a 40" 1080p sony TV and I assure you, the difference between 720p (1280 x 720 for PC gamers) and 1080p (1920 x 1020) is really signifigant, even 5 feet back on the couch. If only my PC could always play games in 1080p. Crysis barely runs in 720p.

That being said, if developers scale the image back from 720p that means that they have put in a lot of eye candy so we shouldn't complain. COD4 runs at 600p because the graphics and effects are so rich. ANyway, if you want full HD then buy COD4 PC and get a new video card.

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If there's a noticable difference between 640 upscaled to 720 and native 720, then yes I care to some extent, as far as console games go. All of my 360 and PS3 games so far have beenin native 720p and I find the resolution to be nice and clear. Anyway, if I decide to get COD4 at some point, I'll go with the PC version. My 8800 Ultra card should run it really well.

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#61 PS2_ROCKS
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Yes because if all my PC games defaulted to 640x480 without allowing me to change that I'd be pissed. With my PS3 it would also be painful to project such a low resolution.
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Seriously does anyone actually care if a game is 1080,720,640 etc etc? I find it very sad if someone actually does care. It doesnt make a big difference, not even noticeable unless you compare the resolutions against eachother, and even then its minuscule. Does it make the game any less fun? No.... If developers feel the need to do so, or it makes it easier to develop and get higher performance out of the game then heck, I say make all the 640 games you like. Anyone else agree?bri360

No difference? Are you serious? Do me a favor, go compare a game at 480p to a game that is 1080p then come back and tell me there is no difference.

I want my games native 1080p damnit!

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#63 Guiltfeeder566
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I have a 1080i tv and i couden't (and still can't) tell the diffrence,
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[QUOTE="PikaPichu"][QUOTE="bri360"][QUOTE="HungryLikeAMug"][QUOTE="bri360"][QUOTE="HungryLikeAMug"]I take it I'm the only one who takes offense to developers knowingly and deliberately lying on their boxes? Should they not be held accountable for this? It is false advertising which (i think) can be prosecuted pretty hard?

bri360

Mabye its ok for them to say this since its upscaled to 720/1080 anyways. It doesnt say true native 720p on the box does it? I think it just says 720 or 1080.

sorry for the noob question:oops: but whats the difference between native and upscaled.

Native is what the game is designed and made at and upscaled is when the 360 or w/e your using takes the native resolution and upscales it to a higher resolution like 720p and 1080p. In the end native will be better but if you actually compare it, it isnt much of difference.

Is upscaling like stretching 1 pixel to fill the space of 2 or more pixels?

No, upscaling is more like, it calculates where the pixels should be and what they should be. There isnt any stretching involved which is why it looks pretty close to a native rez.

There is plenty of difference between picture quality of native and upscalled, don't spread lies!

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#65 Chutebox  Online
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I have a 1080i tv and i couden't (and still can't) tell the diffrence,Guiltfeeder566

Are you using the right cables? There should be a huge difference from resolutions. The only time I don't see a huge gap, but I do see a gap, is from 720p to 1080p native.

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#66 lowe0
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It's all shades of gray. A little downgrade in resolution for an extra visual technique is fine, but there's certainly a point at which it gets absurd. The question is, does the end result look better than it could at 720p? As long as it still looks good and is fun to play, I'm OK with it.
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#67 krunkfu2
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my TV is a piece

all that 0583p or 5937i crap doesn't really matter to me.

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#68 ArisShadows
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Not really, as long as its fun.
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#70 naval
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although i am not very insterested in 1080, but for me best resolution would be somewhere middle of these settings
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#71 DivergeUnify
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HD is naturally better. Say no if You want, thats your poinion. In my opinion it makes a big difference.
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#72 laughingman42
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I do if that is the reason why Halo 3's 2 player split screen coop only used like half of the screen (or did this problem also happen on SDTVs?). Man was that annoying.
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gamers don't but fanboys do
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gamers don't but fanboys doItalStallion777

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#75 -R3Volation
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I do care. It looks like a mangled pile of dog crap without it.

Jaggy's = fail in it's pureist form!

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#76 EmpCom
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Fanboys care and thats about it
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#77 rolo107
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You can't even notice the difference unless you are close enough to your TV and it is large enough depending on how close you are. I really don't care, performance is much better then graphical nitpicky **** Seriously, you don't need the highest resolution to enjoy a game, but you do need good performance.
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#78 thelastguy
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Well depends on what kind of television they have. If they have a 720p or SD tv i doubt they would care that a game is 1080p.

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Fanboys care and thats about itEmpCom

Are you serious? What the hell does someones preference on resolution have anything to do with which console they prefer?

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Seriously does anyone actually care if a game is 1080,720,640 etc etc? I find it very sad if someone actually does care. It doesnt make a big difference, not even noticeable unless you compare the resolutions against eachother, and even then its minuscule. Does it make the game any less fun? No.... If developers feel the need to do so, or it makes it easier to develop and get higher performance out of the game then heck, I say make all the 640 games you like. Anyone else agree?bri360

It is very minuscule indeed my friend, but we deal with idiots here on a daily basis.:(

The only thing I've noticed about resolutions this gen is that games can't handle 1080p. Not a one of them. Why? All we get is jaggies, that's why.

I actually play some of my 360 games in 1080i, which eliminates a bit of the jaggies.

Microsoft did a decent job by including a scaler, but Sony sort of dropped the ball with that one.

Anyway, none of this matters, because the games this gen are so freeking hot!:)

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[QUOTE="bri360"]Seriously does anyone actually care if a game is 1080,720,640 etc etc? I find it very sad if someone actually does care. It doesnt make a big difference, not even noticeable unless you compare the resolutions against eachother, and even then its minuscule. Does it make the game any less fun? No.... If developers feel the need to do so, or it makes it easier to develop and get higher performance out of the game then heck, I say make all the 640 games you like. Anyone else agree?Spartanx23

It is very minuscule indeed my friend, but we deal with idiots here on a daily basis.:(

The only thing I've noticed about resolutions this gen is that games can't handle 1080p. Not a one of them. Why? All we get is jaggies, that's why.

I actually play some of my 360 games in 1080i, which eliminates a bit of the jaggies.

Microsoft did a decent job by including a scaler, but Sony sort of dropped the ball with that one.

Anyway, none of this matters, because the games this gen are so freeking hot!:)

i dont know, doesnt the ps3 have an option to wat resalution it can output to...im not sure so i dont know... or is that not what we are talking about

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#82 Chutebox  Online
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[QUOTE="Spartanx23"]

[QUOTE="bri360"]Seriously does anyone actually care if a game is 1080,720,640 etc etc? I find it very sad if someone actually does care. It doesnt make a big difference, not even noticeable unless you compare the resolutions against eachother, and even then its minuscule. Does it make the game any less fun? No.... If developers feel the need to do so, or it makes it easier to develop and get higher performance out of the game then heck, I say make all the 640 games you like. Anyone else agree?hyperboy152000

It is very minuscule indeed my friend, but we deal with idiots here on a daily basis.:(

The only thing I've noticed about resolutions this gen is that games can't handle 1080p. Not a one of them. Why? All we get is jaggies, that's why.

I actually play some of my 360 games in 1080i, which eliminates a bit of the jaggies.

Microsoft did a decent job by including a scaler, but Sony sort of dropped the ball with that one.

Anyway, none of this matters, because the games this gen are so freeking hot!:)

i dont know, doesnt the ps3 have an option to wat resalution it can output to...im not sure so i dont know... or is that not what we are talking about

That is for Blu-Ray, but Ps3 does have an upscaller.

If people say there is little difference between resolutions you have NO idea what you're talking about.

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#83 HostileEffect
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PC gamers care about 640/720/1080... I normally bump it up to 1280*1024, aka 1024P with lots of AA....

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#84 caseypayne69
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So it doen't make a difference huh?

Well, since its harder for developers to fit all their stuff at 720p or 1080p Lets just tell them to make all games at 480p or better yet 300p or 200p, since you guys said it doesn't matter.